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Author Topic: The Cogiati (combined gender identity and transsexuality inventory) test  (Read 8007 times)

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tinkerbell

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Have you ever taken the COGIATI test to determine the level of gender dysphoria you have?
If you are interested in taking this test, you may do so on the web; the results are as follow:

-650 to -389, cogiati category one (standard male)
-390 to -129, cogiati category two(feminine male)
-130 to +129, cogiati category three (androgyne)
+130 to +389, cogiati category four (probable transsexual)
+390 to +650, cogiati category five (transsexual)

Remember that this test is not a diagnosis for transsexualism, you must see a
gender therapist to help you with these issues.
see the link below to take the cogiati now:

 
http://transsexual.org/cogiati/index.php?lang=en
« Last Edit: June 21, 2007, 12:03:23 am by Tink »
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TheBattler

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Have you got a link for this test Tinkerbell?

Alice

PS - My guess for me would be 3-4
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It's a fun "test," but it is far from conclusive.  It was enough to make me think, but President Reagan said it best - "doveryay, no proveryay."  Trust, but verify.  Only your therapist knows for sure.

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When I was still trying to find out about myself, I took it and answered every single question as honestly as possible at the time.  I ended up with a 4.  I have heard of TS getting a higher score once they started transitioning, so that alone shows the test results are inconclusive.

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Not only is this test an unreliable indicator of transsexuallity, it's an unreliable indicator of gender dysphoria unless you subscribe to the long list of gender stereotypes this test is based on.  Most of these tests can be consciously directed towards a desired result.  IMO, there are no valid tests for gender dysphoria.  Only through therapy and full self-discovery can one decide if they are are or aren't TS or gender dysphoric.   

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Hi Dawn :)
I agree,   one of the questions was the series - you just knew, if F base in on the sequence of colours, if M base it on the mathematical sequence.
I chose the colours because I thought the colours were nicer :)  but goes to show if you know the answer you can aim for the result you desire.
Still it was fun, and I every time I do the test I come out as Androgyne. 

Rana :)
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Not only is this test an unreliable indicator of transsexuallity, it's an unreliable indicator of gender dysphoria unless you subscribe to the long list of gender stereotypes this test is based on.  Most of these tests can be consciously directed towards a desired result.  IMO, there are no valid tests for gender dysphoria.  Only through therapy and full self-discovery can one decide if they are are or aren't TS or gender dysphoric.   

Yup, I'd agree... the COGIATI mixes a stereotyped gender test with a TS angst test... and I'm beginning to think that's not fair. It's tempting to try and prove that one "is female gendered" somehow to validate one's TSism, but I'm beginning to think that's chasing a ghost.

"Given the choice, would you prefer to live out the rest of your life as a perfectly normal, genetic female?" If so... tada! You're TS ;)

Of course, answering that honestly and for the right motives is another story...

EDIT: Then again I only scored a FOUR. Being "probable" kinda made me mad, lol. Had I scored a FIVE, I'm sure I'd be posting about the test's uncanny accuracy ;)
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I agree,   one of the questions was the series - you just knew, if F base in on the sequence of colours, if M base it on the mathematical sequence.

I don't remember the question, but I'm strong in both areas.  Sometimes it is dependant how the question is asked, rather than the actual answer.

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it is one of the better "tests", IE I was expecting worse.
it is clear (my score = 360) that if you can do 'maths' or spatial reasoning
this casts some doubt as to  'classic TS" (is that like the old 'primary vs secondary' classification?)
[oh, please, put me in a box!] -
which is absurd.
and sexist. erm genderist.

I don't remember the question, but I'm strong in both areas.  Sometimes it is dependant how the question is asked, rather than the actual answer.

Melissa

the one with the rotating red/blue cubes on a stick, I think she means
asked in such a 'roundabout' way I almost gave up on it myself

all that said, I do think that a lot of it is somewhat well-designed, in that the perception of INTUITIVENESS may be a key indicator of inherent gender.
it's the real girls can't do maths implication that is absurd.
also the 'if ten would you prefer to go play with your pet or fantasize (instead of GIRLS JUST WANNA HAVE FUN)?' type-angle seems suspect to me
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Mmm... I took this test some year or so ago and thought it was awfully stereotyped, and in some cases it seemed pretty obvious you could influence the results one way or another very easily, maybe even without realizing it. While getting a '4' made me feel a little more reassurred at the time, I don't think I'd put much weight to it.
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These tests are very easy to minipulate if you want to.   They might be fun to try, but do not depend on the results to decide who you are.

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it's the real girls can't do maths implication that is absurd.

No kidding.  Apparently that's not true, since I'm good at math.  ;D

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No kidding.  Apparently that's not true, since I'm good at math.  ;D

Yea, my wife is a bit, err, obsessive with numbers... always compulsively adding them up, and reducing them down to a single digit. She knows all these weird little tidbits about them, like how 9 is a good number since it "changes nothing" she says: (9+2=11=2, 9+8=17=8, etc.). She's a little whiz with the things.

AND... she can parallel park :)

Directions though... it's frightening sometimes. I'll never forget the time she started yelling, "TURN RIGHT! TURN RIGHT!"... while she's frantically pointing to our left.
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I took the test and got a score of +505, which means I am a 5.  I think this test is very seriously flawed.  I do not see what mathematics has to do with being transgendered myself.  I was always better at English and writting essays than I ever was at doing Algebra, I admit.  I am still a whiz at doing geometry and basic arithmetic when I have to.  I cannot see the corelation. 

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The test doesn't account if you are very good at math and english composition/writing skills.  What does that make you according to that test?  Both male and female?  Give me a break.

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I started boiling the test down to see which questions seemed important to me... a dozen... half-dozen... than only one stood out:

Q. You will never, ever be a woman. You must live the rest of your days entirely as a man, and you will only get more masculine with each passing year. There is no way out. What is your reaction?

A. (-10) I could cope. Not much different than now.
A. (-5) As long as I can still dress in private, I would survive.
A. (0) It would hurt, but I would carry on.
A. (5) I don't think I could bear that.
A. (10) I am better off dead.


This was the emotional crisis/realization that finally broke me and got me into therapy. The question wasn't hypothetical to me.
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True Kate, there are some thought provoking questions on there and it does make you examine yourself from angles that you may not have.  So, perhaps the questions are more useful than the results.

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True Kate, there are some thought provoking questions on there and it does make you examine yourself from angles that you may not have.  So, perhaps the questions are more useful than the results.

Melissa

Sorry for the me-too post but...

I DO have to second the motion.  I knew the test's methodilogy was likely fallible, but I took it anyway.  There were some questions that I felt I answered more male than female, but I answered them honestly anyway (with a sinking maybe-I'm-not-TS feeling as I answered.)  But the questions helped me clarify my self-examination, focusing on different aspects of myself.  It was a cold shock to realize that I was probably TS -- not from the test score so much as from the directed self-examination the questions provide --  and that perhaps being TS was the answer to the question, "Why don't I add up?"

It got me off the dime, and hooked up with my gender therapist.

Even if it's unreliable, I still think it's a valuable tool.  The creator, Jennifer Reitz, has taken a lot of flak over the test.  But she created it as a challenge to the mental health community to design a better, more reliable test.  So far, no one has accepted her challenge.

To find the test, go to Transsexual - dot - org, then look for the links.  While you're at it, drop Jennifer a line or two--

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I'm a very solid 4. This is about right.
Oh my wife is an Accountant and great with math.
As far as directions go she always know which way is north.
I’m not a good speller so have never liked to write. But now with computers and spelling checkers that is changing.
Yes this test is based on gender stereotypes and I'm sure my wife won't have scored as high as I did.

I did get panicky when the test said that I would get more and more masculine as time went on. I really would rather die.

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I should try taking it again.  It's been a good a good 8 months or so.

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