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Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« on: October 24, 2006, 07:26:42 am »
Please feel free to join in this discussion.  If you'd like to see me write tips on other subjects, please PM me.

A manly face is rough.  We know that.  It seems impossible to cover it withougt looking like a guy in drag.  This is certainly one of the biggest tells.  This tell was one of my most difficult to deal with.  Nothing will give you away faster than having a thick layer of Elmer's patch and fill under a quarter inch of foundation.  We all know that Tammy Faye is a guy in drag right?

My beard was dark, peppered with red hair. Those pesky red hairs are the worst to kill and they tend to stick out.  By noon, I had a 5 o'clock shadow.  I tried the thick makeup for some time and I got clocked every time I went out.  Anyone could see it from 100 feet away. 

I learned from various sources that makeup works better when you can use less.  Remember, makeup is to even out things like freckles and uneven skin tone, not to cover razor stubble.

First of all, use a moisturizer after shaving every day.  Don't use male products.  Get some Oil of Olay or a Nivea product.  If you need to be a guy during the day, use some aftershave behind your ears and on your forearms to cover the smell.

It took me a couple of years to figure out how I could shave to get rid of "the tell".  I found that the longer I could let the beard go before going out on the town, the better my face would ultimately look.  I'd let it go on a weekend and I'd travel on a Monday.  I'd go out Monday night.  That would give me 3 or 4 days of no razor burn.  If I had to work during the day and I was going out that night, I'd do a very quick shave with a Norelco razor in the morning.  I would only do only one or two passes, even if it didn't get everything.  The trick was to not injure the skin.

When it came time to go out in the evening, I'd soak my face in a hot wet towel for 10 minutes.  I'd use a shaving gell to soak my face for another few minutes, followed by a couple more minutes in a hot wet towel.  I'd then use the same shaving gell and shave with a new disposable razor. I would shave only against the grain minimizing the number of times I would drag the blades across my face. When finished, I'd soak my face in the shaving gell and shave again.  I would then let my face soak in copius amounts of moisturizer and wipe off the excess after a few minutes.  After all of this, my face was almost color free from that I would normally have after shaving.  I would then apply a light coat of makeup. If after a finish coat of powder, I could visibly see makeup, I would wipe it off and reapply.  It was actually better to let a bit of the beard shadow show than to wear too much makeup.

Hair on my arms and hands were also a big problem.  Remember, most humans have some hair on their arms and hands, so shaving it all off is also an unconcious tell.  So yes, I would shave my arms, but I'd still leave some of the hair on my arms.  I'd try to keep it shorter and less dense.   I would lift my sideburns trimmer a bit above the skin and go against the grain.  This would trim the hair shorter.  I'd take some very quick passes with the Norelco with the grain to cut 3/4 of those dark critters out.  That left some hair.  It was still dark, but that was okay.  My arms did not look shaved.  Those manly pores didn't stick out saying "here I am, I'm a guy!"

Ear and nose hair is a dead give away.  Pluck it all!  Nuff said about that.

I had copius amounts of chest hair.  I found that there was absolutely nothing I could do about it.  Shaving just didn't work.  If I could pluck it, that would have worked fine.  But I had too much.  So I wore clothing that did not reveal this manly feature.  If you can use an epilator (an invention that came out after I had my passing issues), that will work just fine.

Please feel free to post your comments and questions here.
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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 12:10:08 pm »
Dang am I glad I didn't have to deal with all of that.  I was able to shave my face, apply a beard cover into the pores and then aply makeup normally.  As I have done laser treatments, I have had to use less and less stuff.  Now I shave off any hairs in one sweep and apply makeup normally.  No hot towels or anything.  I shave my arm hair off, but that's only because it makes me self conscious when I have it there.  I actually did have some women notice I shaved my arms once and they said they used to do that too.  I don't have big male pores anywhere really (never have), so that's not a concern.  I have never really had chest hair, other than a few hairs around the nipples.  I plucked those off and they stopped growing back.  So, my issues weren't as bad as those and they do sound really awful.  The only part of my body that was more typical of a man's hairiness was/is my legs.  I just keep those shave.  I am finding I need to apply moisturizer so I don't get reptile skin and grow scales. :P

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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 12:55:51 pm »
Remember, makeup is to even out things like freckles and uneven skin tone, not to cover razor stubble.

I used to use DermaBlend. It's meant to cover scars and such. Very thick stuff, not something you'd want to use if you had a choice, but it DOES cover things wonderfully... and if done carefully, it really doesn't look half bad. It FEELS kinda awful, like you're wearing a mask almost. But if you need to cover a dark shadow... it'll do it. I've used it to cover the welts and wounds from a couple nasty laser sessions... and was amazed at how well it worked.
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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 01:00:33 pm »
It FEELS kinda awful, like you're wearing a mask almost.
Just don't wear it so long that you forget who you were beneath it. ;)

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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 02:29:02 pm »
I would shave only against the grain minimizing the number of times I would drag the blades across my face.
Ouch!!!! Back when I used to have thick facial hair, I needed to go with the grain first to get the heavy growth trimmed down, then against to get the last of the stubble. I used plenty of liquid soap (the clear orange colored stuff) so that the razor would glide effortlessly. It still left me with some blue shadow and I didn't have foundation to cover it up with. :( It's no wonder I didn't always pass.

The only part of my body that was more typical of a man's hairiness was/is my legs. 
Same here. I'd swear the hairs are thinner now that I've been on HRT for a while but am still finding it necessary to shave them. I may decide to have 'em lasered after I've waited to see if the hormones will have any more effect on that. Thank goodness I never had very much chest/back hair.
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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 02:32:19 pm »
The only part of my body that was more typical of a man's hairiness was/is my legs. 
Same here. I'd swear the hairs are thinner now that I've been on HRT for a while but am still finding it necessary to shave them. I may decide to have 'em lasered after I've waited to see if the hormones will have any more effect on that. Thank goodness I never had very much chest/back hair.
Oh, I was referring to before HRT.

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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 07:09:21 pm »
So HRT does thin that all out effectively?
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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 11:06:24 pm »
So HRT does thin that all out effectively?
Well, not so much on me.  The only places it thinned out was the are right below my belly button and my butt (thank god) and that happened within the first couple months.  Since then it really hasn't done much for me.  My legs are just as hairy and my muscles are just as strong. :(  Something must be wrong with me.

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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2006, 01:28:23 am »
So HRT does thin that all out effectively?

HRT, or the lack of testosterone will have some affect on your body hair.  It varies from person to person.  I would caution someone counting pennies to focus hair removal on the face first before moving to other areas.  They may change significantly after surgery when the testosterone is totally gone from what my limited experience has shown. 

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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2006, 09:05:47 am »
For myself I have been waxing my body hairs off for many years and now they are very, very fine and almost none existent, and my chest hair is gone.  I guess if you wax enough you'll eventually kill the little suckers :)

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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2006, 12:17:52 pm »
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The only part of my body that was more typical of a man's hairiness was/is my legs

Heh heh! Me too!  :o

I think it's the Italian in me.  Actually, what Cindi said about estrogen and testosterone is true.  I had much thicker and darker body hair before I was diagnosed with POCS (too many androgen in my system) and when I was put on oral birth control pills I slowly noticed it lighten and thin.  My arms and legs are pretty sparse now and blonde to boot! It took about three years for it to be where it is now though. 

Steph, the one time I waxed my legs (once and only once, I'm not into pain like you are  ;))  I left the wax on a little too long (because I was a big chicken about ripping it off) and I pulled off the hair along with the top layer of skin.  A lot of the hair never came back in that spot. So you're probably right about that too.
Posted on: October 27, 2006, 11:15:06 AM
Cindi, we tried out your technique last night.  It worked beautifully. Jocelyn has never been so pleased with her face and I didn't think she could get any more beautiful than she already is. Proved me wrong!  :D Thank you so much for your helpful information. You're such a peach, you're like several small peaches rolled into one!
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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2006, 08:30:21 pm »
Here's a weird trick I learned from somewhere...

If you don't have time for the complete Cindianna Jones™ ten-step treatment  ( ;) ), try using a good quality electric razor on your face before you go out.  I fond that it can get stubble that a multi-bladed razor can't, without raising the grain, so to speak.  It's not perfect, but as Cindi said, a little blue is less objectionable than visible razor burn and bumps.

My Two Cents;

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P.S., thanks for another great topic, Cindi! ;D
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Re: Learning to pass... dealing with the hairy man.
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2006, 09:19:37 pm »
Good stuff!
I stated before other than the head, hairy everywhere esle i shave but with a trimmer and a comb like #2 on the legs in summer and chest keeps it shorter, the arms i have been shaving lose with no comb i sort of like it but wihtin a week its halfway back, the chest i just started trimming more too close and boy does it itch coming back in!  The razor and lotion leaves a great feeling but the hairs coming back in cause too many pimples and ingrown hairs for my liking!
in the summer months when wearing more shorts and stuff i shave but not to baldness on legs, in the winter months where pants are pretty standard i shave closer with no combs.. only way i know to beat the pimples or ingrown hairs!
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