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chrissie

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Transfemme pills
« on: September 17, 2005, 10:55:20 am »
Been web browsing recently looking for something to help along my breast development. Im aware of a product called Transfemme and wondered if anyone here had heard of this. Has anyone tried it?
If so,could you please advise me as im thinking of getting  some but want some independant views first?
I hope someone can advise!

stephanie_craxford

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2005, 03:49:02 pm »
Hello Chrissie

I went to their web site and all I can say is "don't bother", You would get better results rubbing "Miracle Whip" on your chest.  The site is full of inaccuracies in their literature,  about breast size, and a few glaring spelling mistakes, along with wild claims.
 
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Our breast enlargement pills contain a natural glandular therapy made from ovaries and are homepathically potentized, targeting the male body to convert testosterone into estrogen. Leaving your body full of excess estrogen.

This makes no sense, and there is no such word as "homepathically" (they probably mean homeopathic ally) which means - 
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A system for treating disease based on the administration of minute doses of a drug that in massive amounts produces symptoms in healthy individuals similar to those of the disease itself.

and "potentized" means -
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To render the latent power of (anything) available.

Also where are they getting these ovaries from, who's are they using?

They also say that it will eliminate embarrassing doctors visits.  But "what's so embarrassing about doctors visits".  The pictures they show are laughable, along with the way they explain bra size increases.  Going from a 34 to a 36 is usually because you are still growing or you've put on weight or muscle.  These numbers refer to the size of your chest where the band of the bra sits.  The letter "A, B, C, DD" etc... is the cup size and refers to the size of breast that will comfortably fit into it.  For myself since I started HRT in March I have gone from a 36 flat, to a 36 A.

In a previous post you mentioned that   
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I've been on hormones and anti-androgens for 7 months and getting more feminine appearance
  Are you doing this under medical supervision or self medicating?  If you are under medical supervision and you are not getting the results you were expecting then talk with them to see what can be done.  If you are self medicating, then start seeing a medical professional.

Chat later

Steph

Shelley

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2005, 06:22:45 pm »
I have to agree with Steph here Chrissie,

Anything that is sold over the web like this would not take into account other things your taking so it could actually be dangerous.

The other thing is if it did work how does it work and are there any side effects.

I personally would shy away from things sold over the web especially medications.

Shelley

AllisonY2K

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2005, 09:54:18 pm »
if there was a way to convert testosterone into estrogen, the medical community would have already discovered it, and possibly already be prescribing it for HRT.

besides, the ovaries are just an organ. they don't secrete anything or regulate any body function other than menstruation. you'd probably get better (or similar) results by taking dong quai and saw palmetto.

chrissie

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2005, 08:40:29 am »
Hi and thanks for your replies.
You know I just couldnt see the wood for the trees could I!
After reading your 3 replies I went back to their website and re-read it.
WHAT A LOAD OF S**T!

In answer to your post,Stephanie im under the care of a gender identity clinic here in Manchester. Although i have an appointment with London based specialist Dr Russell Reid in November.
I know girls here in Manchester that have self medicated and all I can say is NO WAY!

To u all, thanks again for making me see sense and saving me time,money and my health. :)

Jessica

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2005, 09:28:29 am »
Actually, conversion of testosterone to estrodial is a naturally occuring function in biologicial males with increased age due to the presence of an enzyme called aromatase.

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Within the body, there is an enzyme called aromatase. It converts certain amounts of testosterone into estradiol (an estrogen).

Here is what happens to the male body with too much aromatase

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12736278&dopt=Citation

However, I doubt very seriously that the website you encountered is anything legitimate.

Jessica

kitt

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2005, 05:47:24 pm »
I took the transfemme pills twice for four months at a time.  I also drank the shakes that they said to take.  I noticed a littly bit of growth.  I grew about two cup sizes, one each session of four months.  Not much more then the "real women"  on the web site, nothing like what some of the men claimed to get. 

I stopped taking the pills because I ran out, and they are expensive, and I just didn't want to spend the money on more.  Also I like the size I gained, and don't know if I want to be bigger.  Also I developed diabeties, and was concerned that it was related to the pills.

But say what you will, they worked (at least a little bit) for me.

Kitt

stephanie_craxford

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2005, 06:22:48 pm »
Two cup sizes!!!!

Do you realise how much breast growth that is.  That would be considered phenomenal over a 4 to 8 month period.  If they are so good why aren't their sales through the roof, why do we all still go through competent medical professionals.  I'm sorry, it's all snake oil, just like the breast cream, and the herbal hormones.  Their flashy web sites and absurd claims are there for one thing and one thing only, to make money, and lots of it, off those unfortunate among us to fall for their idiocy.

I also don't believe that this stuff would qualify anyone under Harry's Rules, maybe someone else can answer that.  Save your money and put it towards something worth while like electrolysis, voice therapy, weight loss, but not this stuff.

Kitt, this is your first post so we no nothing about you, why would you be taking this stuff and growing breasts?  Hang around and tell us more about yourself.

Just my thoughts,

Steph

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2005, 06:26:49 pm »
Sounds like a sales pitch to me.  Damn, if I could grow 2 cup sizes in 4 months, I would be standing at their door steps waiting for them to open.

Sorry Kitt, I think you might be exagerating, I'm not sure how you can call 2 cup sizes a "little" growth.

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kitt

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2005, 07:32:28 pm »
Perhaps I should say I grew two inches passed my rib cage mesurment.  I call it a little growth because I'm still so small that I don't even consider what I have to be breasts, not really.  But I did get larger in my chest both times I took the pills. 

I was told by a rep for the company that what the pills do is convert T to E, and in addition to that they alter the hormone recepter sites in the body so that they respond to E rather then T.  I never thought that they would ever do anything, and maybe if I didn't allready have same tissue development befor I started they might not have. 

As far as this being a pitch, well poo poo on that.  Didn't you read that I think the stuff gave me diabeties?  No, I'm not pitching the product.  And I have to add that when I first went to the web and found the pills (4 years ago) they weren't even advertizeing to the tranzgender comunity.  It was only after so many "men" reported that they had some results to speak of did they start up the Transfemme site. 

I can see how anyone could lump this product into the same catagory as all the herb pills and creams and the like.  However, this product does do what they say in some dagree, at least for some people.  The message board on the site is full of people that it hassn't worked for.

In my opinion however, that could be because those people are more likely to seek out help or advice from a message board.

Kitt 

stephanie_craxford

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2005, 08:11:31 pm »
It was only after so many "men" reported that they had some results to speak of did they start up the Transfemme site.

Obviously they saw the opportunity to make a lot of cash, and why were so many men trying to grow breasts.?  Why do you think that transfemme gave you diabetes, is that what your doctor told you, if so I'd be looking at suing the pants off them.

I would just like to point out to  others some of the key points covered under Transfemmes Terms and Conditions:

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We make no warranties or representations about the accuracy or completeness of this site content or of the content of any site or sites linked to this site. Each consumer specifically disclaims any warranty express or implied including but not limited to any warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. No products, services or information are intended to diagnose, treat, prevent, mitigate or cure any disease, medical condition or psychological condition.

Testimonials in our web site and other materials were volunteered by the makers without an offer of compensation. The results referred to in Testimonials may not be typical and users' results may vary.

Neither Avalon Therapeutics nor any of its affiliates shall be liable for any direct, incidental, consequential, indirect or punitive damages arising out of access to or use of any content of this site or the content of any site or sites linked to this site.

The statements made in our marketing materials and web sites have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration or any other governmental authority, unless otherwise specifically noted.

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Nice to know they stand behind their product...

I have no way of disputing your claim, however I'll point out that anyone who tries to self medicate is asking for trouble, no matter what the substance may be.  I'll just add that presently that the site is offering a 1 month supply for $149.43,  3 months for $369.83, and 6 months for $619.88 US.  My HRT is costing me approx $50.00 for a 3 month supply, and I get medical supervision.  Do the math.

You still haven't introduced your self to the site, please do so,

Thanks in advance,

Steph

sarahhooter

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2005, 08:55:42 pm »
I have looked at the transfemme site and find it ineresting in concept.
I wonder if we could get more specifics on the 2 inches of growth experienced.
Did your auriols grow as well as they indicate? what about hip and buttocks?

Does anyone know why there have not been any additional postings since 2003 or early 2004 to the site?
I can't seems to find any listing of even the bountiful breast site other than their own and no semi reputable comparison of the products efficacy to support their own testimonials.
I have tried to contact them through the help line only to have my requests for infomation rejected by mail servers as nondeliverable. Physical difficulties make it impractical for me to try phone calls to them.

sarahhooter

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2005, 09:02:00 pm »
"I took the transfemme pills twice for four months at a time.  I also drank the shakes that they said to take.  I noticed a littly bit of growth.  I grew about two cup sizes, one each session of four months.  Not much more then the "real women"  on the web site, nothing like what some of the men claimed to get. 

I stopped taking the pills because I ran out, and they are expensive, and I just didn't want to spend the money on more.  Also I like the size I gained, and don't know if I want to be bigger.  Also I developed diabeties, and was concerned that it was related to the pills.

But say what you will, they worked (at least a little bit) for me.

Kitt"

Kitt could you clairfy what you mean by 2 inches of growth. as in what were you measurments prior and after taking transfemme and were you taking anything else at that time? Perhaps somethign else was affecting your growth. I know they require protein drinks but am unaware of any drink that would cause that kind of growth.

[edit]Fixed quote - Steph[/edit]
« Last Edit: November 29, 2005, 09:28:05 pm by Stephanie Craxford »

JenniferElizabeth

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2005, 11:11:26 pm »
I have to agree here with Steph & Sarah. This is More of the same BS that companies have been tring to fool all the women with latley( GG of trans). I've gotten so used to it now I laugh like I was watching a good comedy. :D
 They are so full of it, that I smell the stench all the way here. ;D A BIG waste of money & your time.

Cassandra

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2005, 09:31:12 pm »
You're asking for anectodal evidence that these things work. Clinical trial is the only true measure we have of the efficacy of any drug. Is that eveidenced in what you have read? If not then I really don't need to say anything else.

Cassie

Wendy

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2006, 10:04:20 pm »
The pills work a little but got me sick and are not worth your money.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2007, 11:37:22 am by Wendy »

stephanie_craxford

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2006, 10:46:29 pm »
Quote from: Wendy
]The experts at Bountiful Breast told me that the breasts will even out after they grow to their potential.

I was wondering who these experts are.  Are they medical doctors?  It is fairly common knowledge that female breasts are rarely exactly the same shape or size unless you get augmentation.  Additionally how did the experts determine what your "growth potential" would be, did they tell you what size to expect, and with that did they tell you how long it would take and how much of their snake oil you would need to purchase to achieve that result?

Have you had your breast growth examined by a doctor to determine if it is in fact breast tissue that is growing or just fat piling on from the shakes?  I'm just amazed why people will gladly waste their hard earned money on this junk and not spend it on legitimate medical treatment.  Unless there are other reasons why a person wants to grow breasts!

Sorry but "Bountiful Breast" Yep I'm still skeptical.

Steph

Wendy

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2006, 01:32:35 am »
The literature at that site suggested taking prescription drugs for stubborn cases.  Why not go to a doctor and get the required prescription drugs and save some money and avoid potential health problems.

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Steph thanks for posting the HRT article on its own site with that name!  (It is worth reading.)

I have cut the following excerpt  that might be helpful for Kitt's discussion regarding Transfemme pills and diabetes (and my feelings of gaining weight and being tired):

Metabolic:

    * Estrogen therapy causes decreased insulin sensitivity which places transgender women at increased risk of developing type II diabetes.
    * One's metabolism slows down and one tends to gain weight, lose energy, need more sleep, and become cold more easily. Due to androgen deprivation a loss of muscle tone, a slower metabolism, and physical weakness becomes more evident. Building muscle will take twice as much work than before. However, the addition of a progestogen may increase energy although an increase in appetite may be seen as well.

« Last Edit: April 25, 2007, 12:09:26 pm by Wendy »

Kimberly

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2006, 02:15:31 am »
I believe the term is “playing with fire”.

Perhaps it should be noted that HRT “works” for all males?

Terri-Gene

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Re: Transfemme pills
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2006, 04:15:33 am »
All this boo ba ra about the transfemme gobbledegook and birth control pills is not only crap for those who are serious about true transition and wanting to properly develop but is bordering on self-medication which is contrary to Susans rules about self medication.

As to the topic of the medications being talked about, they will do little if anything to male biology and are next to or completely worthless.  I know nothing about the transfemme product but can conclude it is simular to other such medications which like i said are worthless to the average male.  Yeah, perhaps they make extra fat grow on the chest, big deal.  I have a younger macho beer drinking brother about 50 years of age last I saw of him who could pop a DD bra with the fat in his breast section.  Big deal.  They are not breasts in the way I or any other serious Transsexual would consider them, just large deposits of FAT.

Birth Control Pills are also worthless.  When first developed they contained high amounts of estrogen, but were severely downgraded in estrogen content shortly after initial dispersal for safety reasons.  They no longer are sold or have been sold for many years containing enough estrogen content to be worth swallowing them and they do have side effects.

Anyone wanting to transition and who has a true belief in themselves as a woman in nature should seek proper medical attention and do it properly.  There are deeply dangerous risks if not properly used and supervised by medical professionals.  The amounts of estrogen needed make the amount in such things as birth control pills look like one ant on top of mount Everest.  Forget it.  None of these types of breast growth being discussed is worth the effort it takes to breath out the words and should be disregaurded by those who wish for serious treatment rather then just playing hanky panky with themselves.

You want honest and workable information, just ask and there are those here who have been there and back who can discuss the real world with you and how to go about getting what you need under proper medical supervision.  That is, if you really do have any real determination to obtain a way of life some here would risk all they have to achieve.  Leave the garbage chatter for the make believers and leave it at that, it is pure crap.

Get real or get a coffin

Terri

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