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Reduce rib cage width
« on: January 15, 2014, 01:02:37 am »
I've heard of some surgeries mentioned on here but struggle to find before and after pics of results.  I don't want any of my ribs removed and don't think that having lower ribs removed will make much of a difference, however I do feel that reducing the width of the upper part of my rib cage by an inch would help a lot - at least in a way which makes my hips stick out noticeably more (my hips are widest at my pubic area and are just over an inch wider than my bust - my shoulders are quite a bit wider, however I feel like my rib cage adds too much emphasis to my upper body). 

Aside from corset training (of which I'm unsure of how to commence safely or such), what are my options?   

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 01:18:35 am »
Well there is corset training, which is safe but can get expensive with buying good quality corsets. (Though not nearly as expensive as surgery) just don't go more than 2-4 inches waist reduction for your first corset. And go by feel. If you get light headed and start to feel faint, it's too tight.


There is also specialized workouts and such I'm sure. Along with a specialized diet
I'm sure I could be missing some things, but those are some ideas
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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2014, 01:35:16 am »
Do the corsets actually decrease your rib size?  Like the actual skeleton?  I suppose muscle and skin would be easy to compress.  Does training your ribs effect rib width after the corset is off?  Curious.

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2014, 03:53:27 am »
Tightlacing a corset can have some lasting effects, most of which being temporary. Over time, the parts of your midsection that are compressed become more flexible and can be compressed farther. The organs move around to accommodate the change in shape. I know of some people who (when in a corset) have a 14" waist! As an effect of waist training of that stature, a (not as defined as with the corset, but still a significant difference) hourglass waist shape can linger for a few hours after removing the corset before it goes back to normal.
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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2014, 04:27:53 am »
a really tight corset may cramp your ribs just like the bindings cramp and cripple Japanese girls feet?
 it will also definitely cramp your liver or kidneys too.

male rib cages do seem to be wider at the bottom than female ones and a recent episode of Frasiser had him topless and it was interesting how big the bottom ribs were and how his abs/belly pushed out below the ribs.

models have often been reported as having lowest rib removed for a slimmer look but most natural girls can be lovely and slim anyway.

if you have dieted off as much upper body fat as possible then choose clothes that give an hourglass shape anyway.

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 05:26:50 am »
Hi supersilk
Aside from corset training (of which I'm unsure of how to commence safely or such), what are my options?

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 08:25:44 am »
http://www.thelingerieaddict.com/2012/05/tightlacing-101-4-myths-about-waist-training-with-a-corset.html

I *love* corsets and fully plan to do waist training once I get a new corset (I lost a lot of weight and the old one is too large now). That said, I recommend doing some research first and maybe watching some youtube (especially bishonenrancher's corset videos!). http://www.youtube.com/user/bishonenrancher

Don't worry about damaging ribs or organs, those are myths (as you'll discover when you research), as long as you do things sensibly you'll be fine. If you plan to spend significant time in a corset you should remember to do core strengthening exercises (without it on) regularly. Corsets offer a lot of support and that can cause your core muscles to weaken due to disuse.

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 11:58:04 am »
http://www.thelingerieaddict.com/2012/05/tightlacing-101-4-myths-about-waist-training-with-a-corset.html

I *love* corsets and fully plan to do waist training once I get a new corset (I lost a lot of weight and the old one is too large now). That said, I recommend doing some research first and maybe watching some youtube (especially bishonenrancher's corset videos!). http://www.youtube.com/user/bishonenrancher

Don't worry about damaging ribs or organs, those are myths (as you'll discover when you research), as long as you do things sensibly you'll be fine. If you plan to spend significant time in a corset you should remember to do core strengthening exercises (without it on) regularly. Corsets offer a lot of support and that can cause your core muscles to weaken due to disuse.

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Right, I think the danger comes in where people start getting impatient and lace too tight, making it hard to breathe, and without letting the body adjust
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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2014, 12:19:03 pm »
The first answer if you want a natural solution is you need to be thin, very, to reduce your waist size. Well below normal for a male of your age and height and at the very low end of healthy BMI for a female. Perhaps even less.

In my case I am a size 0/1. So my measurements now are 36 chest and 26 waist. But I had to get very thin to achieve that. You cant carry the normal muscle mass on the chest that a male does. That means starving off the muscles and lowerig your body fat down to 5% or so. Not easy and I dont recommend it.

If you are the extreme type you can have the lower 2 ribs on each side removed. They are additional on a male body. Then they do a tuck. If you want to see how this looks, type in the name Nina Arsenault and look at her pictures. There are a couple of surgeons in Mexico who do this surgery. Its deep, nasty and painful.

With a corset I can take off another 4 inches. In some ideal barbie like world you are looking to achieve a 12 inch difference between chest, waist and hips. So 36-24-36. No one born male bodied can do this without surgery. Chest and waist are barely possible, but not that size of hips. You need implants for that. Thats why you see drag queens duct taping foam to themselves. But if you want it in reality, surgery is the only solution.

So far as wearing a corset is concerned. No way I would do it day to day. Its okay once in a while but I have a real life to live and they are hot and annoying. In any case a waist cincher is far better.

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 12:21:38 pm »
Oh, in case it has not been mentioned, do not rely on off the peg or ebay corsets. If you really plan on tightlacing to alter your body shape, forget the myths, seek professional advice.

Have a look here to start with http://www.contourcorsets.com/index.html

I do not own a Contour Corsets one yet, but from what I read and see of them they are probably amongst the best engineered corsets available.

And this http://www.staylace.com/medicaladvice/medical.htm

Hope these help a bit.

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 01:30:45 pm »
If your on a budget or just starting waist training (like me) I dont think there is anything wrong with one or two el cheapo amazon/eBay waist cinchers. Ive been wearing a combination of a body shaper and waist cinched for four months now. I wear them for most of the week day and night. Due to this I have lost 20 pounds without much effort and Ive lost a little waist size to kaboot.

Good reference on a good corset. I may have to buy one in a few more months for daily wear. :)

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 01:47:58 pm »
That may be true regarding shaping the waist, but that is mostly soft tissue that will return to its normal shape after time. What supersilk98 was interested in, I believe, was reducing the size of the rib cage and for that you need a different kind of animal. The cheap ones will not cut it I am afraid. This is why a well engineered bespoke corset will always work out better for tightlacing since we are not all symmetrical  and you can do more damage than good if one does not it correctly(which is probably where some of the myths originate).

Good effort on evicting 20 pounds though. The cheap ones still stop you putting in too much food.  ;D

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 06:01:11 am »
There are several factors at work with tight corsets. 

In the Victorian age girls started with boned corsets at an early age, so there were real permanent changes to the ribs.  Today you probably won't get that, things go back to "normal" after a few hours or days - depending on how long you've been laced and for how long.

Don't forget the mind set changes too!  When you start with a tight corset you are very aware of it, and of course, it limits breathing and bending.  After a while you don't notice these things - the corset become "normal".

Don't overdo it, and it will be ok.

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 08:49:16 am »
With a corset I can take off another 4 inches. In some ideal barbie like world you are looking to achieve a 12 inch difference between chest, waist and hips. So 36-24-36. No one born male bodied can do this without surgery. Chest and waist are barely possible, but not that size of hips. You need implants for that. Thats why you see drag queens duct taping foam to themselves. But if you want it in reality, surgery is the only solution.

Maybe I'm not male-bodied or something or I'm intersex (most rikery) but my measurements are 36-27.5-35. I don't starve myself in fact I've been eating good. I did kinda starve myself months ago but not now. I'm not measuring wrong I go across the bust (my bust is 36 and my underbust is 31.25, so I'm a 32/34D) and for the waist I went right above the illiac crest and for hips right around the biggst part of my butt and thunder thighs. I've just responded really well to HRT in these last 10.5 months.

I actually planned to stop but I like the changs too much and I never thought I'd be able to do this. Never. Ever. Never. (Did I say never?). But here I am walking around in capris and cutesy tops with big, open necks with makeup on carrying a purse. If you told me five years ago I would be doing it I woulda told you yeah right I don't have the guts. So, nothing is impossible cause I'm a wimp and I have those measuremnts so it can be done.

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2014, 09:51:20 am »
Tight lacing with a corset can help reduce the size if your bottom two ribs, or floating ribs as they are called. They are called floating ribs because they are attached to the spine, but not the sternum... Which means they can be bent inward. The younger you are, the more malleable your body is, and thus the easier it is to bend your ribs.

In the case of rib removable, since your ribs are cartilage, then it's possible that they can grow back after removal. This typically doesn't happen, but certainly is possible. For removal, the doctor would go in through your back and simply saw the ribs off near the spine. The recovery and pain would be horrific, but obviously, it is manageable. The scar from the surgery will be very noticeable. This surgery typically isn't done for cosmetic reasons, and you will find a tough time getting a reputable surgeon to do this procedure.

Lastly, there is a condition involving the sternum known as pectus excavatum, which is much more likely to occur in males than in females. This condition is noted by a dip in the center of your chest, sometimes a small dip, sometimes a very large dip. This is caused by tendons and bones growing at different rates during puberty, and consequently, as your chest dips in, your ribs bow or flare out. In most cases the condition doesn't pose any threat, but in more severe cases this condition will interfere with your breathing or even your heart... Which would make it a medical necessity to be fixed under insurance.




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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2014, 06:36:41 pm »
Could there at the very least be a surgery available to shave some of the ribs slightly (not to remove), in a way to make the overall width of the upper torso appear smaller?

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2014, 10:25:26 am »
Could there at the very least be a surgery available to shave some of the ribs slightly (not to remove), in a way to make the overall width of the upper torso appear smaller?

Well the center of the rib cage is breakable cartilage, which is broken during things like saving someone with CPR.  I guess it could be removed and the ribs compressed together and then held with something?  It sounds super painful and I dont think there is a doctor who will do it.  But its a thought.  :-\   I'm not sure there is a way to shrink rib dimensions.   Any ideas anyone?


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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2014, 03:10:31 am »
Our maternal ancestor Eve was created from the material of Adam's rib and it seems that by removing the bone inside the membranes round the rib does make new rib matter grow.
I think a plastic surgeon woudl be able to cut ribs in such a way that they can be easily bent and shaped the way carpenters cut wood to allow it to bend.
The ribcage is supposed to expand during exhertion as the lungs work harder though.

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Re: Reduce rib cage width
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2014, 06:32:24 am »
This sounds like a very harmful not to mention painful and most of all unneccessary idea for surgery. Unless your built like sasquatch I can't think of any reason for this. Just my 2 cents girls. ;)
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