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Terri-Gene

Re: injectibles, generic?
« on: December 05, 2005, 02:14:34 am »
for what purpose would you wish to deal with injectables, especially when for you it would seem it would require a doctors visit ($$$) every week or so?  Do you have some kind of problem with estrogen?

Terri


AmyNYC

Re: injectibles, generic?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2005, 05:51:34 pm »
I've always done injectables.  First my doctor did them, but, like Terri said, that was getting pretty costly.  So he prescribed them for me & I started doing them myself over a year ago.  He only makes me come in for check-ups now.

I searched high & low, but never found any generics.  If you find any, let me know.

Amy

stephanie_craxford

Re: injectibles, generic?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2005, 06:02:14 pm »
Careful you are getting close...

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Re: injectibles, generic?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2005, 06:48:22 pm »
I would hope that any replies only contain information about legitimate pharmacies that require a doctor's prescription. Otherwise, as Steph says, the line is too close.

Dennis

AmyNYC

Re: injectibles, generic?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2005, 07:18:17 pm »
Careful you are getting close...

Steph

I would hope that any replies only contain information about legitimate pharmacies that require a doctor's prescription. Otherwise, as Steph says, the line is too close.

Dennis

It occurred to me that maybe the Canadian Pharmaceutical Industry is different from the US Pharmaceutical Industry.  If someone asked me what the definition of a "generic" medication was, I would say "a non-brand name medication".  I wouldn't even think you could get a generic without a prescription.  And every "legitimate" pharmacy in the US offers generics, but of course only with a prescription.

I don't think any of the first three posts were anywhere close to the line.  Still, after Stephanie's post, I edited my post to remove any ambiguity.  But that's just my two cents.

Amy

stephanie_craxford

Re: injectibles, generic?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2005, 07:53:20 pm »
Hey there Amy,

Thanks for the 2 c's  :).  It was the line about sic "If you find any let me know" as it seemed as though you were close to discussing black market sources.  Surely doctors/pharmacists would be able to provide that information.

Steph

AmyNYC

Re: injectibles, generic?
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2005, 08:09:40 pm »
Surely doctors/pharmacists would be able to provide that information.

My Doctor didn't give me the brand name of injectable estrogen.  The prescription listed the generic term for it.

I took the prescription to four pharmacies and none of them knew where to find the medication.  I had to call up a fellow patient I know to find out how to get the prescription filled.  She gave me the brand name, and the pharmacies were able to locate it that way.  I still checked with another dozen pharmacies, and none of them could locate a generic.  Some said a generic wasn't available, and some said it was.  Unfortunately, the ones that said it was couldn't get it.

No, I would never discuss black market sources.

Amy

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Re: injectibles, generic?
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2005, 11:49:39 pm »
Amy, I didn't think you were going to recommend a black market source, I was just concerned that someone else might.

Dennis

Terri-Gene

Re: injectibles, generic?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2005, 04:01:09 am »
Harper, seeking an orchie if unsure of surgery date and feel it wo't be until down the line a bit, it makes since, but if you are close, it probably won't make any difference in the transition unless you need to get away from the spiro.  And if you do go for an orchie, don't forget to do streatching excercises on the scrotum on a routine basis afterwards to prevent shrinkage of the scrotum tissue.  It will hang normally at first but after a few months you will notice it begin to tighten up.  Also, ask your Doc to recommend you to a Urologist to get it done and it  likely  will be covered by your Kaiser insurance.  They did it for me after a stroke in November of 04.  I was naturally taken off estrogen and Dr. Dea argued Medical Necessity for me and after it was done, I was allowed to go back on Estrogen at highly reduced doses.  They did it for me, so i take it would likely do it for any who are deemed dangerous to themselves if it is needed.  I know that Dea had a hard fight to get it included in insurance for me, but I'm sure she got so involved for the benifit of others also.

If you want one and are worried about scrotum scaring thats not a problem.  Mine was done with surgical incisions in the groin area on each side of the penis, they went in from there and pulled them out.  The scrotum was never touched.  It means a little more down time because they have to cut through the lower abdominal problem, but I was back at work in two weeks and had no problem performing my normal duties with no restrictions or undue discomfort in two weeks. That included, lifting totes of charts and pushing/pulling carts weighing up to 500lbs and loading laundry carts weighing considerably more. The doc wanted me to wait a month, but I didn't want to use up all my saved vacation time as I needed as much as possible for the real surgery and needed it to have income during recoup at that time.  Anyway, if you want to do it, there is no risk of tissue loss by using this method

Estrodiol is the generic form of Estrace and if I'm not mistaken, that is available in injectable form, though a particular pharmacy may or most likely have to order it since orals are the more normal way it is taken.

I have no idea what problems if any would be associated with injectables other then they are generally only used in cases where direct infusion to the bloodstream is needed. I got by on Orals with existing Liver problems, so personally don't put much stock in needing injectables. They don't necessarily produce any better results then oral types, but are sometimes better for some conditions, and estrodiol or Estrace is considered to be a more potent form of estrogen as it is much closer to the natural hormone in the human body, and yes, injectables are common enough in the U.S.

If I'm not mistaken, the perscription you showed me in SF was Primarin, what was wrong with that?  If you have objections to the treatment of pregnant horses and disposal of the coalts born, which many do, Estrace or the generic Estrodiol is a perfect solution.  If you are having any kind of health issue problems ask your Kaizer specialist to check with Robin Dea in Redwood city which is nearby you for any advice, which the specialist probably is used to doing anyway. She's the one who took me on with my liver problems when others wouldn't.

Terri

msjudy

Re: does anyone use this injectable type ?
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2006, 10:57:30 pm »
Hello  My RN Has just  put me on A injectable  called Depo  Estradiol

Does anyone else use this and know the  benefits of it  vs the    other types ?
I am asking because I do not like Needles personally ...


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