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Ev:
I am going to come out and say that I am a Satanist.  However, since Satanism is a philosophy that is based heavily on the individual, please do not let me be the "say-all" represenative for ANY other Satanist out there or even the CoS.  I am a proud red-card holder but am not an agent or priest, so if you have any questions about the Church please go to the website instead of asking me anything directly.  The Devil can explain himself better than I ever could.  If you have any questions to ask me about me that isn't a passive-aggressive/indirect way to get answers about the Church, I can answer those.  I can go on about me for a long time hahahaha.

I myself don't go around and flaunt that I am a Satanist, but when asked I usually won't deny it.  Many other Satanists aren't as open as I am about their affiliation for a variety of reasons: the biggest one (in the US) is for proffessional concerns, as it can be career suicide in certain fields.  I myself am a retired vet, so I have a little more freedom to step up where many cannot as there is no concern over me losing a job.  Anyone who comes into this thread is probably not going to be the "average Joe" so I don't object to outing myself here.

As far as Satanists being unpleasant, well, if they are in someone else's lair...like, say, Susan's...and they are grade-A <not allowed>, they are committing a Satanic Sin.  An internet domain IS STILL someone else's lair, as they spend the time and money to maintain it.  I want to reach out and slap people who are ungrateful to their virtual hosts and the guests, as it is not their home and if they don't like the way things are or the people in it, they should just leave.

I am a Satanist for my own reasons, but I am sure it would sound a lot like "someone else's" reasons as well so there is no reason for me to explain my...uh...reasons.  Instead, I let my accomplishments do the talking for the most part.  What you read on the internet is too easy to fake, so I expect you to even approach me with scrutiny with your BS filters on high when I come out touting that I am a Satanist.  Too many morons misinterpret the philosophy, which works sometimes to my advantage as it does my hinderance. 

As far as what I have done: I am a war vet, transgender living out their desires, former martial arts instructor, and self-published author of no fewer than 5 books for starters.  I like classical music, as well as the old-school fantasy epic like Beowulf and Gilgamesh.  I find most (not all) death-metal to be abrasive and hard to digest.  I'll stop there, but use that to illustrate a point that Satanism isn't about "evil" music and horror stories all the time.

If you have any questions, I am offering myself up to answer them to the best of my ability.  Again, go to the CS website if you have any questions about the organization.

~Hail Satan

Gothic Dandy:
So we have a Daemonolator, a Luciferian, and a Satanist. What a fun party! Who else wants to join?  >:-)

My first brush with "Satanists" was a bunch of moody teenagers who were in a metal band and liked to draw pentacles on everything. I was Neo-Pagan back then and even I was offended, lol.

I didn't realize it was still such a career-killer to identify yourself as a Satanist. I grew up in a liberal, (sub)urban area so I always assumed we were living in fairly progressive times. I didn't even realize it was still socially acceptable to discriminate against trans individuals at work until I came to this forum and heard some of the stories.

Although to be fair, I wouldn't volunteer either of those details to most people. I was hesitant to even come out on here as Luciferian, since the forum is completely open to the public, and I'm paranoid that one day I will piss off someone influential and they'll go fishing the internet for blackmail. Haha, like I'm that important!

Jess42:

--- Quote from: Ev on November 02, 2014, 08:40:03 am ---As far as Satanists being unpleasant, well, if they are in someone else's lair...like, say, Susan's...and they are grade-A <not allowed>, they are committing a Satanic Sin.  An internet domain IS STILL someone else's lair, as they spend the time and money to maintain it.  I want to reach out and slap people who are ungrateful to their virtual hosts and the guests, as it is not their home and if they don't like the way things are or the people in it, they should just leave.

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I'm not really anything other than Spiritual and believe in natural negative or dark energies and positive or light energies, and so on. But yeah you are right. Every CoS cardholder that I ever met were extremely pleasant people. Even more so than a lot of other people and a whole lot more repectful of other people's lives and lifetstyles. Especially the part of respecting all life even animals and the use of animals for food. But still respect. Even read the CoS Satanic Bible written by LeVey a long time ago. I still love that stupidity and ignorance are Satanic Sins. For whatever reason I just can't belong to any religion. That to me goes with an hierarchy and I detest authority. Especially over my own possible eternity.

But belief systems are belief systems and it is extremely good to have something to believe in. Just remember though especially when it comes to Satanic Rituals that anything can come back to you so be extremely careful and sure. Not just limited to Satanism either. What energy you do put out it is very possible that it will be returned to you in time. So dark energy, be very careful with.

Ev:
Jess:

It's nice to see someone who has read TSB and then developed their own opinion about it.  However, while I do not agree on your views 100% Jess42 about rituals, I don't care to drag this debate out in the open.  Ritual is entirely personal, like our sex lives, and thus is best left behind closed doors most of the time.



Gothic Lady:

My wife is a non-theistic (agnostic) Luciferianist herself with a touch of Neo-Pagan, who taps into the symbolism instead of the literal side of things.  So, to better understand my Little Lucy, I read over some of Ford's books but already had a "fair" grasp on Pagan lore from my brief time as an experimental Gnostic.  Interesting (The Bible of the Adversary) is all I dare say out in the open...but religious studies is one of my primary interests so I read it with as much of an open mind as I would anything else.  (Myth is ammo when it is time to write.)  I can "live with" the idea of my mate being Luciferian, even if I do not adhere to the teachings myself.

Out of the four Crown Princes, Lucifer was the one I identified with the most...being often depicted as androgynous and artistic, he is my natural archetype.  (Other than Loki the Trickster, who swapped genders often to meet his goals.)  There is a lot of overlap in the Lady's and my own personal philosophies, but then enough of a difference for her to say "this" and me to say "that".

As far as it (openly Satanist) being a career-killer, it really is a matter of where you are and what you are doing.  Someone at the "Spicy Subject" store in the mall in San Fran could probably get away with it AND benefit from it, but someone at a law firm in Texas may be asking for trouble.  I myself am openly trans, so there is already a "law of the forbidden" attached to me...being trans is also potentially a career killer, so it just added to the "taboo" I naturally carry.  I also write sci-fi/fantasy for a living, so the extra space it gives me is nice, as most people prefer to keep their distance these days and I can immerse myself in my works.  As I said, my case is somewhat "different" than most people's so I have really nothing to lose by coming out in the open about it...and I have my privacy to gain.  However, Dr. Smith the dentist may need to button that top button real tight to keep his baphomet hidden under his shirt, unless he wants people to think he is using their teeth for some evil working and lost all the time/money he invested in Med School.

I get a lot of flack from a lot of the trans I have encountered in my life, because of my beliefs in stratification and the fact I LOVE being a "<not allowed>" and "<not allowed>" instead of being a "woman trapped in a man's body" so to speak.  Apparently, both is a "bad" word/concept and I "shouldn't" use them.  I won't dip into that any more here as I may have already tapped the top of the can of worms, but as a Satanist I am not here to become part of some "herd" and thus am going to be an outcast amongst outcasts...a goat amongst black sheep.  I am here to learn, and to share what I learned if anyone cares to listen.  So I have to take the vast majority of my views off-site as a gesture of respect for the "equality" pushed here.

But enough of that.  Since I am here and out in the open, I have subjected myself to any response and thus have no room to complain about anything said to me at this point.  Take care, and thank you all for your time.

~HS

Jess42:

--- Quote from: Ev on November 05, 2014, 10:04:42 pm ---Jess:

It's nice to see someone who has read TSB and then developed their own opinion about it.  However, while I do not agree on your views 100% Jess42 about rituals, I don't care to drag this debate out in the open.  Ritual is entirely personal, like our sex lives, and thus is best left behind closed doors most of the time.


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I definately agree. But I also believe the same about praying too. It should be personal. It really isn't any different though. For example, if somone prays for a tornado not to hit their house then they are trying to consciously re direct it to possibly hit someone else's house. I guess what I am trying to say is the old saying of "be careful of what you wish for". If you wish to forego your suffering then you may indeed cause someone else to suffer that wasn't meant to. Does that make any sense? It did when I wrote it. ;)

As for the Satanic Bible though. I have absolutely nothing against anyone that is Satanist or Christian. As a matter of fact a lot of The Satanic Bible I agree with. Anton LeVey I agreed with. Zeena was a beautiful woman but that idiot, Nicholos Shreck she married could go. Werewolf Coven? Really? That is just my own personal opinion. Well actually most of The Satanic Bible I agree with. Our beliefs are 100% personal dependant on nothing else but ourselves and life experiences. It does Irk me though when you have people out there that claim to be Satanists that murder people and animals but still have no clue what it is about. Blond haired, blue eyed virgins being sacrificed at midnight in a grave yard on Halloween was a really big urban legend about "Devil Worshipers" where I grew up. ::) Maybe if they did a little research instead of fall into the hysteria, they may understand that followers of the Church of Satan respect life more than want to needlesly destroy it.

But just one thing and nothing personal but praying, rituals, wishing, and so on is putting some of your energy out there in the cosmos. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't but on a psychological level, the negative stuff is best used sparingly, if at all and only for extreme instances. As for physical negativity though, if somone smites you on the cheek. Smite them back. Forget all that turning the other cheek. I don't want both cheeks scarred. Ya' Know?

BTW Ev. No one is ever gonna' agree 100% with someone else's beliefs. It is way too personal and just as unique as we ourselves are.

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