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What do LBGT's become christian?

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Cassandra:
Borscht,

First of all it's the LGBT(Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender Alliance). We are a very diverse group many of whom are, Yes, Christians. Certain sectors of the Christian community may hold narrow views but they do not represent the whole of Christendom. Your comments are both argumentative and inflamatory. You need to tone it down a bit. Please review the site rules. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but this does not give anyone the right to shove thier opinions down peoples throats.


--- Quote ---Christianity is not what you or anyone else in the LBGT wants it to be, it has rules just like all other religions and one of those rules is that people like us are an abomination and will burn in Hell.
We should stop embracing this hateful ideology.  Christianity is our enemy and is in part responsible for most of the discrimination people in the LBGT community face today, we should oppose it vigorously.
--- End quote ---

Such a narrow world view would make those in the community no better than the bible thumping fundamentalist preachers who give Christianity a bad name. You clearly have an ax to grind and you are welcome to state your opinion. But, if you expect others to pick up that banner and march to your drum beat. Think again.

Christ loved all people and gave his life so that we might live. This is not anthetical to being gay transexual or anything else. I leave you with this quote from John Lennon.

"But if you want money for people with minds that hate
well all I can tell you is buddy you'll have to wait."

Cassie

Kimberly:

--- Quote from: Borscht on January 19, 2006, 11:39:02 am ---...convince christians to tolerate you...
--- End quote ---

Out of curiosity, why would I want to?

beth:
"You may criticize me by saying that I'm lumping all christians with the evangelical republican right but the fact of the matter is that this faction of christianity is the dominant one, they get to decide what christianity is, not you."

     Ignorance breeds hate, it works both ways

Alexandra:
ahem, a mine field . . . okay, here I go . . .

I believe the "hate"  influence of "certain sectors" of christianity is a bit wider than Cassandra stated, but not as widespread as suggested by Borscht. Unfortunately, when we have highly influencal people like Pat Robertson running amok in our society, views like Borscht surfaces as a reaction. I can't blame her.

The Unitarian Universalists' open policy on GLBTQ members, being contrary to the views of many other mainstream churches suggests that us mortals have a hard time interpreting the words of God therefore we ought NOT be doing it and let our personal choices be between themselves and their God.

Hmm?

Cassandra:

--- Quote ---the evangelical republican right but the fact of the matter is that this faction of christianity is the dominant one, they get to decide what christianity is, not you
--- End quote ---
I disagree with both premises of your statement. The evangelical republican right is hardly dominant. They get a lot of publicity because they continue to be controversial. The politicians may tailor their rhetoric to curry their favor and get their votes as they represent a large voting block but they do not represent the majority main stream Christian community.

Secondly no one group can decide what Christianity is for everyone else. If they could there would be only one Christian denomination and I can tell you right now the Baptists, Methodists, Presbetyrians, Episcopals, Lutherans etc. are not going to allow themselves to be absorbed into one denomination with one faith, one view, one voice. Each individual defines what christianity means to them and no government, no law, no body of people can change that.

I do in fact decide what Christianity is to me as do millions of other independant voters who do not travel in lock step with the Christian right or left. Certain hot button issues may launch certain fanatical christians to the forefront of political debate and that may in turn garner them support from otherwise moderate Christians. But, these people have an agenda and when the public realizes just what that agenda is they quickly distance themselves from such radicals.

Most of the rising stars of the Christian right apexed and are in decline. Falwell, Baker, Robertson et. al. Sure others stars will rise as well, they always do. And as long as people of good concience rise up in opposition they will fail and falter as they always do. No one person no one group has a lock on Christianity.

Cassie

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