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PrincessCrystal:
So, me and a friend (who also has a background in psychology) were discussing how some young children will identify as trans (or sometimes cis) gender, but suddenly flip when they hit puberty.  I was reading an article from one Gender researcher who talked about what it was like to identify as a boy until hormones hit and suddenly it was frilly dresses and tea parties.  It's estimated that 40 to 60 percent of transgender children will "change their minds" during puberty, and this is the main argument against giving hormone blockers too early.

Here's the problem: 40 to 60 implies we have very poor data on the subject, and leaves us wondering how many of the children who "change their minds" are really trans but not accepting or have been pressured back into the closet, and how many of them would've been fine either way.  I'm also wondering, with the high rate of Transgender children being pushed back into the box by their parents, how accurate these numbers can be: wouldn't this primarily be data from parents who let their young children "be free" and all that?  How many of the children of non-accepting parents do this?  Is there an age where this typically happens by? (I'm prone to believe that, if they're still trans at 16, they're not likely to change, but I have very little data)  Where does the high rate of teenage girls who crossdress and the "trans-trender" thing he's obsessed with play into this?  Where might intersex conditions like Klienfelters (0.25% of the population) play into this, knowing that they seem to have only a 66% chance of identifying with their assign gender, and may have a hormonal flip at puberty?  How would this data affect the shaky estimates that 0.3 to 0.6 percent of the population is trans?  How can that number possibly be accurate when 1) gender and sex are these spectrum/grid things, and 2) most of us are in the closet anyway?

If anyone has any more information on this, it's been a major topic of discussion with us lately, and I'd like more data for us to draw on...  Anyone know if there's ever been a comprehensive study on this?

Ange:
I've never heard of a trans child that would change his mind at puberty. I'm interested in knowing more.

PrincessCrystal:
You know, I'm looking for it... I've heard even more extreme numbers both ways, but that was the most unbiased and well cited set of articles I could find.

Like I said, it's a known phenomena with very little data.

Dena:
Cindy mentioned that one evening in a Skype call and I found it quite interesting. It's one of the reasons for delay the hormone part of treatment until a child approaches 18 when the gender becomes stable.

In my case, I was a bit confused when I was younger but I learned somewhat poorly the male role. When puberty hit, my gender identity became strong enough to override any programming. I suspect I was alway one who was feminine and didn't switch but at an early age without a strong drive, I was programmable.

PrincessCrystal:

--- Quote from: Dena on October 29, 2016, 05:55:06 pm ---In my case, I was a bit confused when I was younger but I learned somewhat poorly the male role. When puberty hit, my gender identity became strong enough to override any programming. I suspect I was alway one who was feminine and didn't switch but at an early age without a strong drive, I was programmable.
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See, I have similar thoughts on myself.  I was a quirky boy who played with the girls, then when I was around 13 I started thinking about what it would be like to have a different body, then I was periodically homeless and afraid for my life.  Now I'm 25, and kicking myself for not dealing with this sooner...

And this is the issue here:
Too soon, and you have a bunch of 25 year olds upset that they transitioned too quick and regret it.  Too late, and you have 25 year olds regretting not transitioning.

Honestly though, I'm also wondering if this is really even a problem worth tackling while we still see all these posts from people who can't transition for social/cultural reasons, or who ended up getting married because they were living that lie.  How bad IS it to regret transitioning at that age, really?

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