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Does anyone have experience with botox?
« on: May 30, 2017, 06:34:42 am »
One of my friends had botox.  She had no lines or wrinkles but she said if you start botox before you get wrinkles you can prevent them. So I consulted with a physician who does botox. He said he would not do botox on me because I was way to young. He said come back and see him when I was 35 and then we would talk. My friend is my age and her Dr does it on her. So I am wondering if the Dr I consulted with was overly conservative with procedures or if her Dr will just do anything for the money. Does anyone have experience with botox?
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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2017, 07:09:50 am »
Not had botox myself but from what I've read botox is a type of poison which paralyses your face; so it won't prevent wrinkles; just make them less visible for a few months until it wears off.

The physician definitely sounds like someone who isn't doing it for the money. Unfortunately there are now people getting botox done in their late teenage years or early 20s because they see imperfections that simply aren't there and you have dubious physicians willing to take their money even though they know it's not necessary.
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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 10:43:50 am »
How old are you? I've heard 30 is the best age to start.
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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2017, 11:14:32 am »
How old are you? I've heard 30 is the best age to start.

Agree. 30 is probably around the age when you start seeing lines that are actually visible.
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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2017, 01:35:02 pm »
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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 05:09:06 pm »
Yeson uses botox in his voice surgeries and one of our members was physically ill for several months before the small amount of botox used in the procedure was eliminated from her body. Botox is the refined Botulinum toxin which is extremely deadly however if carefully administered is safe for most people. My advice is don't use Botox until you need it and then consider the decision very carefully. Botox was originally developed to paralyze muscles for other medical conditions and then it was discovered it could be used for cosmetic reasons as well so wrinkle removal was an off label usage of the medication.
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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2017, 07:07:29 pm »
Female life expectancy in developed continues has risen into the 80s.  A white woman aged 65 will likely live another 20 years.  Advances in medical technology are largely responsible.  It's getting to the point where the latter half of one's life is spent looking old.  Many women grow into old age smoothly.  They accept their deteriorating bodies -- graying hair, extra weight, sagging breasts, loss of muscle tone, and wrinkled skin. 

As a late transitioning woman, I struggle with the inevitability of becoming an old woman before my time.  I missed the years of being a young woman.  It's my greatest lament.  I want to recoup as many of those lost years as I can.  Keeping fit, losing weight, and battling wrinkles and sags is important to me, for a few more years anyway.  Face lifts, laser skin resurfacing, moisturizers, fillers, AND Botox are all in my arsenal to fight off the ravages of old age.  Do they work?  They sure do.  Botox will even help get rid of existing forehead wrinkles, frown lines, and crows feet.  I have injections once a year.  I never experienced any ill effects.  It's worth it.

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2017, 11:28:19 pm »
I do injectables once a year as well... I am actually due next month! :) ...I do it through a dermatologist and recommend finding someone who does it a lot!!! Not just as a occasional money maker on the side... I get a both Dysport ( which is like Botox but supposedly lasts a bit longer and Restylane which is more of a hyaluronic acid filler) ... I am always happy with them and have never had a bad reaction or problem other than a couple days of looking lik I had needles stuck in my face!!! YMMV!!!

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2020, 01:34:11 pm »
I know Botox is difficult to buy without prescription, that's mean that you risk buying low-quality injectable product that can have negative consequences for your health. I would advise you to read more information about Botox and its effects on facial muscles. It seems to me that you need to know more about this before starting Botox injection therapy. I also thought about taking course of treatment with Botox for wrinkles and to slightly change my appearance without surgery, but so far I'm just reading more information about it.
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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2020, 05:08:51 am »
A good doctor will not do Botox on you if not neccessary, so it seems like he made a sound decision. But I have a question for you, why Botox? Why not some other age prevention injections? Did you look into Profhilo.etc ? It's amazing for prevention, and it really works without freezing your face, also Botox you can do later on. I mean even certain lasers are amazing, i do them and it's just perfect for the skin, when done well.

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2020, 05:17:24 am »
A good doctor will not do Botox on you if not neccessary, so it seems like he made a sound decision. But I have a question for you, why Botox? Why not some other age prevention injections? Did you look into Profhilo.etc ? It's amazing for prevention, and it really works without freezing your face, also Botox you can do later on. I mean even certain lasers are amazing, i do them and it's just perfect for the skin, when done well.

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2020, 06:29:29 am »
Female life expectancy in developed continues has risen into the 80s.  A white woman aged 65 will likely live another 20 years.  Advances in medical technology are largely responsible.  It's getting to the point where the latter half of one's life is spent looking old.  Many women grow into old age smoothly.  They accept their deteriorating bodies -- graying hair, extra weight, sagging breasts, loss of muscle tone, and wrinkled skin. 

As a late transitioning woman, I struggle with the inevitability of becoming an old woman before my time.  I missed the years of being a young woman.  It's my greatest lament.  I want to recoup as many of those lost years as I can.  Keeping fit, losing weight, and battling wrinkles and sags is important to me, for a few more years anyway.  Face lifts, laser skin resurfacing, moisturizers, fillers, AND Botox are all in my arsenal to fight off the ravages of old age.  Do they work?  They sure do.  Botox will even help get rid of existing forehead wrinkles, frown lines, and crows feet.  I have injections once a year.  I never experienced any ill effects.  It's worth it.

I have a beautiful sister who's nearly 60. She has undergone both surgical and chemical modifications. She wears as little clothing as possible, as tight as possible. Her skin has a red rawness to it, a little like a homeless person's skin. She likes to tell people that people think her daughters are her sisters, but you can only hide age so far, for her skin under arms is old woman skin and her hands are old woman hands. So, age will take the rest of her too. It's sad, but everyone's fate.

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2020, 04:55:18 am »
Profhilo is not legal for use in the US.
Oh I didn't know that, it's done in Europe, but I do feel like there are so many good alterantives to Botox.

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2020, 07:08:37 am »
Profhilo is under FDA clinical trials as of June 2019.

No results have been posted at this time.

I guess the FDA has a bigger fish to fry right now.

Profhilo is hyaluronic acid and there are many other products similar to this already available in the US.




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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2020, 01:28:34 am »

As a late transitioning woman, I struggle with the inevitability of becoming an old woman before my time.  I missed the years of being a young woman.  It's my greatest lament.  I want to recoup as many of those lost years as I can.  Keeping fit, losing weight, and battling wrinkles and sags is important to me, for a few more years anyway.  Face lifts, laser skin resurfacing, moisturizers, fillers, AND Botox are all in my arsenal to fight off the ravages of old age.  Do they work?  They sure do.  Botox will even help get rid of existing forehead wrinkles, frown lines, and crows feet.  I have injections once a year.  I never experienced any ill effects.  It's worth it.

This has also been my experience.  I too can say it is totally worth it!  I am always judged as being in my 50's, twenty years younger!   For me this is young enough to experience some of the joy and fun of being an attractive, vivacious woman.  I believe for me it is a combination of genetics, the discipline of a healthy life style, plus the gift of modern cosmetic surgery and injections.  While the main goal of my FFS was to feminize my face, it also took years off.   No, it will not last indefinitely, it is only spirit that does.  I work on that too!
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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2020, 09:58:18 am »
Botox is affordable and easily available here in S. Korea. During lunchtime, I can go to a dermatologist's office without an appointment, and get botox. The procedure itself takes a few minutes and does not need facial anesthesia, but customers may need to be in the waiting room for more than 10 minutes. It is like drinking coffee in Starbucks. The cost is usually about US$ 50. No side effect.

Yes. It can help prevent wrinkles for young people, too. My female friend once said to me that botox can help fix a nice jawline. To prevent deeper wrinkles, you may get botox earlier when you see minor ones.

The bottom line is there is virtually no risk or side effect in getting botox. But some say people can be addicted to botox. I have got botox every 2-3 years, but nowadays I hesitate to visit the dermatologist's office, because of the COVID-19.

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2020, 04:43:22 pm »
Botox is affordable and easily available here in S. Korea. During lunchtime, I can go to a dermatologist's office without an appointment, and get botox. The procedure itself takes a few minutes and does not need facial anesthesia, but customers may need to be in the waiting room for more than 10 minutes. It is like drinking coffee in Starbucks. The cost is usually about US$ 50. No side effect.

Yes. It can help prevent wrinkles for young people, too. My female friend once said to me that botox can help fix a nice jawline. To prevent deeper wrinkles, you may get botox earlier when you see minor ones.

The bottom line is there is virtually no risk or side effect in getting botox. But some say people can be addicted to botox. I have got botox every 2-3 years, but nowadays I hesitate to visit the dermatologist's office, because of the COVID-19.

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I knew its' easily accessed, but that it's that cheap? Wow, what about Meso-Botox, reading that it's all the rage now, do you have any experience with that?

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2020, 05:58:47 am »
I knew its' easily accessed, but that it's that cheap? Wow, what about Meso-Botox, reading that it's all the rage now, do you have any experience with that?

How much does it cost there? The cost is proportional to the amount of botox injected. In my case, it is usually 2-3 ampules. If the area is large, it can cost much greater.

I do not know Meso-Botox. The price of Botox has steadily decreased, and I heard that new types are in the market.

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2020, 11:33:56 am »
Damn, another thing to add to my to do list ! Lol

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Re: Does anyone have experience with botox?
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2020, 11:52:32 am »
A good doctor will not do Botox on you if not neccessary, so it seems like he made a sound decision. But I have a question for you, why Botox? Why not some other age prevention injections? Did you look into Profhilo.etc ? It's amazing for prevention, and it really works without freezing your face, also Botox you can do later on. I mean even certain lasers are amazing, i do them and it's just perfect for the skin, when done well.

I just started laser hair removal on my face and that laser has done an amazing job smoothing out my skin, even after just one treatment.
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