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genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« on: July 22, 2017, 07:42:45 pm »
Hey, I would like to ask if somebody has experience with genderfluid hrt, I mean if somebody take hrt bc they want to have some permanent changes and don't want any surgeries , however they want to stop hrt for some long periods and start again for long periods, anyway is it possible and safe to go on and off for what amount of time with medical support ?


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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2017, 07:46:27 pm »
I'm genderfluid and on HRT. I don't think going on and off hormones would be very healthy. You really don't get to pick and choose the effects, either.

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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2017, 07:50:41 pm »
E/T-Blockers or Testosterone? The two have different effects and withdrawals

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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2017, 09:13:59 pm »
I mean what if I want to take hormones during some parts of my life and rely on my natural hormones in other parts of my life , anyway let's suppose I don't want surgeries and I don't mind getting permanent effects of hormones so that's fine.

I think the concern here is if people like this can go on and off hormones without screwing up their health throughout their lives ?

Anyway, talking about another case,  what if I stay in hormones long enough to get the changes i wanted and then quit hrt?  Is it better for my physical health to stay on it or to quit it ? Do this apply to both afab and amab people ?

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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2017, 09:20:36 pm »
Your ideas aren't realistic. MTF HRT chemically castrates you. You won't  be able to make your own hormones after that. This is real stuff, not a chemistry set to play around with.

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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2017, 09:32:08 pm »
Your ideas aren't realistic. MTF HRT chemically castrates you. You won't  be able to make your own hormones after that. This is real stuff, not a chemistry set to play around with.

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Well, you wouldn't be fertile anymore , even though a small 1% of people still are.
But if you still have gonads down there,  nothing rly stops then from producing hormones , a few changes from hrt will reverse, like body fat and muscle changes,  hair growth, skin oilness,  etc.

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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2017, 09:44:00 pm »
If you have medical support, the first thing they'll ask you is "What are your goals and expectations?"  So I'll ask the same thing. What are you trying to achieve with the hormones?

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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2017, 09:59:50 pm »
If you have medical support, the first thing they'll ask you is "What are your goals and expectations?"  So I'll ask the same thing. What are you trying to achieve with the hormones?

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Well, let's say I want the permanent changes that comes with them but I don't want to rely on them for the rest of my life , that's why I'm not getting surgeries , maybe I just want to feel comfortable with them for a part of my life  and feel more careless and "natural" in another part of my life. Well human beings have fluid opinions , like maybe in 10 years I wouldn't be Comfortable with taking hormones ,who knows.


I'm just curious about other people can give advice on this , specially genderfluid people. I'm just looking for some narratives .

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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2017, 10:20:46 pm »
I was off hormones for 10 years due to doctor issues and without continuous HRT, some of the results revert. My face became gaunt, my breast grew somewhat smaller, I lost size off my lower body and I put weight on in the belly area. Even without testosterone in my body, some of the fat movement followed the male pattern. In short, the changes may be semi permanent unless you remain on HRT. If you are unable to commit to continuous treatment, I would suggest you see a gender therapist and explore what your end goal is. Transitioning is serious business and you need to make a plan that you can live with.
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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2017, 10:53:57 pm »
 One of the very real problems you'll face is osteoporosis. As Devlyn said mtf hormone chemically castrates you and testosterone reduces drastically. Your bone health is then maintained by estradiol. with out supplement one or the other  osteoporosis risk becomes a real concern.
  You really should take the advice of those before me and consult both your doctor and a gender therapist to understand the issues and explore possible solutions for what you want to do. Without professional help you risk various medical issues, mental issues and could even risk your life. now listen to those that have more experience and see your doctors.


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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2017, 05:11:59 am »
I'm non binary and on T. Even though I can't be 100% certain that I want to be on T for the rest of my life I took it with the view I will be as I knew T isn't something to mess around with. I needed to mentally prepare myself for the changes I do and don't want and the possibly that going off T could cause my brain to feel foggy again and maybe some medical side effects doctors are of yet unsure about.
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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2017, 05:15:16 am »
I'm non binary and on T. Even though I can't be 100% certain that I want to be on T for the rest of my life I took it with the view I will be as I knew T isn't something to mess around with. I needed to mentally prepare myself for the changes I do and don't want and the possibly that going off T could cause my brain to feel foggy again and maybe some medical side effects doctors are of yet unsure about.

Well, you accepted it bc your needs, you knew what lies a head.  Is being on t any better ? Feels the same as before ?

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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2017, 05:24:24 am »
Well, you accepted it bc your needs, you knew what lies a head.  Is being on t any better ? Feels the same as before ?

My brain is a lot less foggy and the body/social dysphoria is almost gone completely.  I have a lot less anxiety and I'm just able to function a lot better. Then again I have some discomfort due to the changes I don't like but the changes I do and the psychological benefits are worth living with those.
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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2017, 05:33:57 am »
Nice,  I think my case is the opposite , hrt will only give me more anxiety and concerns. 😕

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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2017, 05:56:27 am »
Nice,  I think my case is the opposite , hrt will only give me more anxiety and concerns. 😕

Maybe you just haven't 'hit the wall' yet which I think all trans people do even if it takes decades. Whereby you think damn the consequences I can't keep obsessing about what could go wrong if I transition; even only socially.

Not saying your anxieties and concerns aren't to be taken seriously as well though.
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Re: genderfluid or genderqueer transition hrt
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2017, 04:58:33 pm »
Maybe you just haven't 'hit the wall' yet which I think all trans people do even if it takes decades. Whereby you think damn the consequences I can't keep obsessing about what could go wrong if I transition; even only socially.

Not saying your anxieties and concerns aren't to be taken seriously as well though.

Idk,  I just learned to not care about stuff that bothered me, puberty was pretty much painful for me, but when I think about me on "my ideal gendered body", I'm not missing much,  I don't wanna face social and physical health fears and I don't feel desirable and "I don't want to feel desirable" nor do I want to suffer more social aggressions or get more sick.

It just kinda traumatized me I had to go throughout puberty and the fact that I will never be really happy about my body , but I guess who does? I just hate the idea of being considered "cis" or "transtrender" bc I'm not transitioning anyway.