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Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« on: November 04, 2017, 10:20:55 am »
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“I personally suspect there are going to be trans women who are going to want to have a uterus and will likely get the transplant,” he said of the procedure.

The first successful womb transplant baby was born in 2014 after a 36-year-old woman, who was born without a uterus, received a donated womb from a friend in her 60s. Eight children have now been born worldwide following uterus transplants.
https://www.rt.com/news/408788-men-womb-transplant-babies/

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2017, 11:32:05 pm »
Hi, first post by me on the forums!

Ok, so I read about the surgeries from this article: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-a-transgender-woman-could-get-pregnant/

I'm excited about coming into my own beginnings with so much being done that could help trans women feel like they truly are what they are. I know the surgery is still a tad shaky, and it is meant for cis women at it's conception, but to think one day we may very well be able to give birth to children is a beautiful thought, and something I've always dreamed about!

With this, along with peritoneal grafts, we could very well be closing the gap on safer, and more successful procedures!

I'm certainly excited about the possibilities!

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2017, 01:01:02 am »
This sounds like an unnessecary risk unles someone REALLY REALLY feels like they need a uterus.  I could see this going wrong in a lot of cases, possible organ rejection or unreasonable risk to unborn fetuses when transwomen inevitably want to carry their own child.

All of those things would be reasonable to want....and I bet the procedure will get better and safer with time.....but I would strongly caution anyone who was deadset on this procedure do a very honest risk assessment.  Organ transplant is going to be far more invasive than GRS and far, far riskier
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2017, 03:52:44 am »
I keep reading about this and keep thinking, there are going to be issues with performing this procedure on trans women that don't exist with cis women - issues that may make it non-viable..

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2017, 04:02:53 am »
that may very well be true kelly, but I'll bet there are some who will want it so bad it won't matter to them...until something goes wrong.

from my understanding, were a transwoman to get a uterus and have a baby implanted (only artifically possible)  it would have to be delivered cesarian if it made it full term.   Also, an infant being grown in a body without ovaries scares me.....I have a hunch that ovaries play a critical role in the production of hormones that the baby needs to properly develop.

regardless, i bet time will tell,  now that this idea is out, I gurantee at least a few transwomen will STOP @ NOTHING to guinea pig this idea
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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2017, 07:36:09 am »
Assuming they can perform this on trans like us, I am all for it!!!! I think it is great!!!! Now yes since we are not cis-women there are some anatomical problems for us. One being our hip bones. Cis-women's expands out to fit the baby through. So for us to carry a child with a donated womb is possible, but we will never be able to do the whole birth thing. we would have to experience c-sections to birth any children. Other than that I don't see why trans-women as a whole could not have transplants done. I am sure there are plenty of trans-men that would love to swap parts with us. Which I don't know if they have done any penile transplants yet. I would love to have a real uterus than just one made of skin. Yes it comes with it's monthly thing, but no one be able to say I am not fully woman. It is a very controversial discussion to have with cis-women though.

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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2017, 07:49:54 am »
Assuming they can perform this on trans like us, I am all for it!!!! I think it is great!!!! Now yes since we are not cis-women there are some anatomical problems for us. One being our hip bones. Cis-women's expands out to fit the baby through. So for us to carry a child with a donated womb is possible, but we will never be able to do the whole birth thing. we would have to experience c-sections to birth any children. Other than that I don't see why trans-women as a whole could not have transplants done. I am sure there are plenty of trans-men that would love to swap parts with us. Which I don't know if they have done any penile transplants yet. I would love to have a real uterus than just one made of skin. Yes it comes with it's monthly thing, but no one be able to say I am not fully woman. It is a very controversial discussion to have with cis-women though.

I suspect that hip width is the least of the issues. I suspect things like proper vascular supply and proper hormone balance will be bigger issues.

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2017, 09:20:26 am »
but no one be able to say I am not fully woman.

I call shenanegans.  Someone will always make that argument.....im sure more than a few will agree with that
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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2017, 09:25:59 am »
This came up in another thread a few weeks ago.

I feel like that transgender uterus implants are inevitable(as most things are given enough time), but barring some massive breakthrough in medicine probably won't be for a few decades still. I believe I will see it within my lifetime, but not anywhere near soon enough to make use of it by a long shot. There are just too many pitfalls with experimentation, particularly given the issue it will certainly involve a fetus. (Which, of course, is a huge social/cultural button.)
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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2017, 09:51:18 am »
This came up in another thread a few weeks ago.

I feel like that transgender uterus implants are inevitable(as most things are given enough time), but barring some massive breakthrough in medicine probably won't be for a few decades still. I believe I will see it within my lifetime, but not anywhere near soon enough to make use of it by a long shot. There are just too many pitfalls with experimentation, particularly given the issue it will certainly involve a fetus. (Which, of course, is a huge social/cultural button.)

I think ovarian transplants would make a lot more sense for the majority than uterine transplants.  even a synthetic ovary, like the ones they were talking about a couple years ago, a plastic box full of rat ovarian cells that is completely sealed off except for a vein and artery.  they were shown to create all the right hormones in the right concentrations and ratios.

I wouldn't get one of those either, I am against surgery in all regards as far as my body is concerned, but I would imagine the demand to be higher for ovaries than a uterus
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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2017, 02:29:46 pm »
I just love how they said "Men can now get pregnant"  then they go on to say there is no reason why a transgender woman couldn't have a uterine transplant. Ok why couldn't They  have just said that? They had to say Men. I get annoyed with stuff like this. It's like no matter what we do, some people are only going to see us as " men". That's messed up. As for the transplant, I wouldn't have it. Too much could go wrong. And I hear the anti rejection drugs you would need to take make you feel awful and have all kinds of side effects.
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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2017, 02:35:27 pm »
Whilst I can understand why someone would want this, I just cant see it.

I'd have thought there would be way too many issues for a non-cis woman's body. I just cant see how they would correct them all.

You never know though in 50-100 years.

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2017, 02:38:36 pm »
I just love how they said "Men can now get pregnant"  then they go on to say there is no reason why a transgender woman couldn't have a uterine transplant. Ok why couldn't They  have just said that? They had to say Men. I get annoyed with stuff like this. It's like no matter what we do, some people are only going to see us as " men". That's messed up. As for the transplant, I wouldn't have it. Too much could go wrong. And I hear the anti rejection drugs you would need to take make you feel awful and have all kinds of side effects.

There are cis men who identify as cismen who desire pegnancy.  Its not our place to judge that.  Why assume transphobia and get so defensive?  We dont have to be de facto victims
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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2017, 02:34:51 pm »
The biggest leaps in medicine we would need to make would involve the nervous system, as you can't simply connect nerves like you can blood vessels. The science is most definitely not out on this yet; I do find it as a sign of hope.

I forgot to mention ovaries, my mistake! I went by the article and presumed ovaries would be part and parcel with the transplant. Connecting a neo vagina to the vaginal walls and uterus would be an interesting, if painstaking, process folks like myself might go through one day; it may be well beyond my time but the amount of progress medically available to us even as experimental is astounding.

In addition, I wouldn't mind having my member removed to be used for a trans man, if it were possible; if it were in the realm of possibility to simply swap with an opposite member of the trans community, I would wholeheartedly accept it; anti-rejection drugs be damned!

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2018, 08:31:29 am »
I would honestly love it if they were able to get these types of transplants to work and be viable for transgender patients. I find myself wishing I could become pregnant and carry a child like a cis woman pretty often.

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2018, 08:36:31 am »
If science could give me a uterus, I would undergo SRS in a heartbeat.

Uterus transplants and lab grown vagina’s are two things I’m waiting for.

I’m 21 so I presume that I will be still young enough when these scientific evolutions will be available to us trans people.

If I’m 36 when that will be available then I will be able to do a loan, get a lab grown vagina and a uterus, settle down with a hubby and carry my own children.

I’m actually really happy that I had the luck to be born in 1996. With all these scientific developments I will be young enough to one day have a body analogous with that of a cis woman.


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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2018, 03:29:16 pm »
I can't see this idea working until we can fully replicate the endocrine systems involved.

It's all very well to implant a uterus, give it a blood supply and implant a fetus. This isn't a particularly hard problem, medically. The question then becomes, what controls the development of that fetus? We still don't understand all that goes on during pregnancy, from an endocrine perspective, so how do we recreate it in trans women? We'll need to answer that before this is a viable option..

I’m actually really happy that I had the luck to be born in 1996. With all these scientific developments I will be young enough to one day have a body analogous with that of a cis woman.

By using your own logic, you'd either have a analogous body now, or you never will. I also think you are being a little generous with the time line.. The first simple organ (a bladder) was grown and placed in a human back in 2006. It hasn't become common, and more complex organs are, thus far, proving to be a little trickier to grow reliably.

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2018, 10:13:06 pm »
I was actually talking about this with my doctor today. It'd be a great thing for a transman to be able to donate their uterus for a transwoman to then receive it. It'd be great for me to be able to get rid of this organ I don't want or need for someone who desperately wants it to get one.

Of course, there will always be risks, but we seem to be getting better with medical advancements. This month, another baby was born via uterus transplant in the US so it'll only be a matter of time.
http://time.com/5184291/uterus-transplant-baylor-university/


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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2018, 08:11:42 am »
When people say "maybe some day", they often forget that someday will only come if people start trying.

Will it be successful tomorrow? Probably not. Ten years from now? That's more likely, but only if pioneers start trying now.

I'm 58 years old and a lesbian. I would gladly offer my body for scientific experimentation if it would give some of you younger ones a chance down the line.

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Re: Uterus Transplants Now Possible
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2018, 09:08:46 am »
Having the luck to live in a gender neutral society and knowing so many tg mtf, I am not so sure that many would consider this option here, and does it make you any more a women. Lets consider the ftm, its easier for us to maybe understand.  We were all men once and what defines being male for us? Is it the penis or testies for reproduction or how we percieve ourselves. Is an infertile man still a man? I think so.

I think its how we perceive ourselves and what it takes to perceive ourselves as the gender of our choice. Maybe to be a normal cis female is for many the only solution. Maybe one day all this is possible. But the changes from the time of inception for a female is not just the uterus. The female reproductive system is so complicated that it is beyond our medical capabilities to create medically. Research for this is limited as there are so many life threatening diseases that need and have priority. Cancer, Alzheimer, MS etc. One day this may all be available, the day we are closer to being demigods.

Being female in my view reflects out mind and how we can finally mentally accept and feel comfortable in our desired gender.
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