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Quit smoking
« on: November 12, 2017, 01:33:20 am »
Why do we have to quit smoking to get treatment?

I stopped smoking 25 years ago but use snus, wet snuff, that I put under my lip. No smoking hazards but a lot of nicotine. It is 10 times harder to quit snus than cigarettes.

I quit twice, when I was pregnant. I quit for 1,5 year. When I stopped brest feeding I could not resist snus anymore and was stuck again! It is a powerful drug. I was motivated 400% when I quit snus, I had an innocent human in my body taking damage of nicotine if I used snus. But I don’t know if I can get that motivation again for myself. To not damage myself.

Is it nicotine that is dangerous? Or is it something else in the cigarettes?


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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2017, 01:40:12 am »
Why do we have to quit smoking to get treatment?

I stopped smoking 25 years ago but use snus, wet snuff, that I put under my lip. No smoking hazards but a lot of nicotine. It is 10 times harder to quit snus than cigarettes.

I quit twice, when I was pregnant. I quit for 1,5 year. When I stopped brest feeding I could not resist snus anymore and was stuck again! It is a powerful drug. I was motivated 400% when I quit snus, I had an innocent human in my body taking damage of nicotine if I used snus. But I don’t know if I can get that motivation again for myself. To not damage myself.

Is it nicotine that is dangerous? Or is it something else in the cigarettes?


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I know I may be one of those people who gave up and then preaches but I don't preach.

Nothing in snuff or cigarettes is any good to you.

Nicotine is a very good poison and has been used as poison to kill vermin.

I know giving up nicotine is incredibly difficult as it is highly addictive, I think it has been reported to be as addictive as heroin or more so.

If you want motivation just look at my throat every time you want to take some.

You really don't want to have your throat removed, it isn't a good look.

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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 04:02:33 am »
The association with Cancer is well documented. Snuf users are more prone to mouth cancers. Photos of people with mouth cancer are very disfiguring and the treatment is worse.

Also well documented are the cardio-vascular effects. Heart attacks and strokes are first on the list of adverse effects.

Is there any doubt as to why smokers do not live as long as non-smokers.

The damage is caused by nicotine and a number of other chemicals. It makes no difference if you inhale vapors or absorb the chemicals through the insides of your cheeks.




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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 07:20:12 am »
I need to build up motivation. Maybe I’ll be motivated when I get further along the trail of transition. I have barely started my journey.

It is also expensive as hell!

When dysphoria hits you, it’s hard to get motivated to quit your ”pacifier”.

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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 08:19:31 am »
I used to smoke, Starting when I was 14, and it was heavily triggered by dysphoria.  On those many occasions I quit for a year or two I usually just switched to snuff (it was the thing in the Army).  I got badly addicted to nicotine and found long term quitting nearly impossible.

So I switched to e-cigarettes.  I still get the nicotine at whatever level I desire without all the other harmful chemicals.  I don’t know if it is harmless or not, the science of that is still indefinite.  But it is a lot less damaging than what I did previously and compared to smoking has zero immediate negative cardiovascular effects.  It does fill the niche as pacifier and eliminates the desire for tobacco.

I have told my HRT Dr. and she is unconcerned.  Previously she had been very concerned about smoking and had told me to stop.

So if you are trying to stop other tobacco use and are unable to do so then this is a workable alternative that greatly reduces risk and negative health effects, at least for the short term.


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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2018, 06:15:59 pm »
One last motivator: nicotine is a vasoconstrictor; it narrows the blood vessels making it more likely to have to amputate extremities later in life.

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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2019, 11:03:58 am »
I don't think snus is that bad for you. Anyways it way more healthier than smoking. No comparison.
As said nicotine is a vasoconstrictor but I have never heard about people being amputated because of snus. Maybe smoking.
But I know that the risk of heart and vascular diseases goes up.

Nicotine and especially smoking has an anti depressive effect but the cost can be quite high. The nicotine and the way your breath when you smoke have relaxing and anti depressive effects have I been told by doctors and nurses.

What kind of treatment are you talking about specifically?

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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2019, 02:25:11 am »
I know I may be one of those people who gave up and then preaches but I don't preach.

Nothing in snuff or cigarettes is any good to you.

Nicotine is a very good poison and has been used as poison to kill vermin.

I know giving up nicotine is incredibly difficult as it is highly addictive, I think it has been reported to be as addictive as heroin or more so.

If you want motivation just look at my throat every time you want to take some.

You really don't want to have your throat removed, it isn't a good look.

Hi Cindy,                           17 February 2019

I want to thank you Cindy for your very courageous and frank response. I myself was a three pack a day smoker ..... until I quit.

I had a job the required me to travel most of each day, by automobile. I lived in Northern Ohio, Munroe Falls, to be exact. I had an appointment to visit a client in Buffalo NY one March day. The weather was cold requiring full use of the heater as I drove along smoking my Lucky Strike unfiltered cigarettes. I spent about eight or more hours in the car with the windows rolled up. To minimize the smoke cloud I kept the small vent wing window open (no longer have them in cars) most of the trip as I was pretty much a chain smoker. My daily habit required three packs, 60 cigarettes per day.

Long story short I arrived home about 9:30 PM and decided to sit in my easy chair and take a nap. I leaned it back and put the foot rest up and closed my eyes in anticipation of a nice quiet rest. As I laid there I kept smelling the foul odor of burnt rubbish. It then dawned on me I was smelling ME. The stench was so foul I got up and thought to myself that if I smell this bad to me, what do I smell like to other people, especially those that don't smoke.

I took the pack out of my pocket, crumbled it up and threw it in the trash. I then ripped the shirt off I was wearing and threw it into the basement. At that moment I decided I'd never smoke again.

I have kept that promise. In two weeks and 2 days I'll celebrate 50 years since I quit. 05 March 1969 was that day. Had I not done so that day, I know I wouldn't be here today. Many of my friends that kept smoking are long gone because of it; they shortchanged themselves and they shortchanged me. They were an important part of my life, they were my only family and now they are no longer here. I do miss them.

I have done a lot of dumb and stupid things in my life, smoking, drinking and doing dangerous stunts were some of them. I never did illegal drugs but have seen first hand the destruction they bring; I was a cop so I saw it in the raw. As I look back I can safely say that smoking, drinking and the use of illegal drugs have absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Some will argue otherwise, but their argument is hollow and without merit.

I've had two close brushes with tragedy recently; had it not been for Dena there is a distinct possibility I wouldn't be here today. The first was my DVT the day after Thanksgiving and the second was when I got the brainstorm to drive to the Braum's Dairy Store for a gallon of milk around 10:15 PM a couple of weeks ago. Dena asked me to not go as it was too dangerous (I'll explain shortly). I said "I'll be OK, it's only 15 minutes away." I got into my car and headed out. As I was driving a little voice told me to: "Turn back and go home, Dena is right." I said to myself, "I'm OK. I'll make it." About that time I dropped off to LaLa land. Next thing I wake up and see I'm off the road and a big tree is heading straight for me. I swerved left, missed the big tree and side swiped the first of the two trees that jumped out in front of me. The jolt and what sounded like an explosion, got my attention. I couldn't have dropped off after that if I had to. Fortunately, no one was injured and only my car, aka the Wreck, was damaged. It's still drivable but looks like something only a jerk would own and drive.

Now it's Shortly: At times, I have a problem staying awake. I can drop off for a few seconds or for 20 minutes or so and barely notice it, if at all. This has been going on for maybe 60 years. Dena has been trying to get me to go to a sleep doctor. I have an appointment on Thursday 21 February that runs into Friday 22 February. Dena thinks I may have a form of Narcolepsy. All I know at this point is I should have listened to her last year and had the study long before the accident.

The net, net, is that after I had the accident, Dena and I had a long and seriously frank conversation. During my lifetime, I have not been a good decision maker when it comes to making decisions that affect me; I'm too impulsive and enjoy an adrenalin rush. Those days are history. Dena is in charge of all decision making with the exception of the mundane, like what color panties to wear. She has more common sense and knowledge in the tip of her little finger than I have possessed in my entire body over the 78 years I have been on the green side of the lawn.

I plan on sticking around for a long time to come and being with Dena for every second of it. She Is the Love of My Life and the One and Only Lady, Woman, Person that lives in my Heart and Soul. Thank You Dena Dear for helping me along the path of becoming a better human being.

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2019, 10:39:05 am »
I need to build up motivation. Maybe I’ll be motivated when I get further along the trail of transition. I have barely started my journey.

It is also expensive as hell!

When dysphoria hits you, it’s hard to get motivated to quit your ”pacifier”.

I am struggling to quit nicotine too, cigarettes not snuff. I have so much stress right now but I am working through my problems. I have completed a few goals and it helps to reduce stress. I believe that I am a stress smoker. I get stressed and smoke. I've struggled to quit since starting HRT, so 4 1/2 months.

I keep telling myself I will quit, but it isn't working very well. I quit years ago so I know that I can do it. I quit for 5 or 6 years. :) I count that as one of my biggest life successes.

I wish that I could just get hypnotized and quit.

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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2019, 07:36:22 am »
I am struggling to quit nicotine too, cigarettes not snuff. I have so much stress right now but I am working through my problems. I have completed a few goals and it helps to reduce stress. I believe that I am a stress smoker. I get stressed and smoke. I've struggled to quit since starting HRT, so 4 1/2 months.

I keep telling myself I will quit, but it isn't working very well. I quit years ago so I know that I can do it. I quit for 5 or 6 years. :) I count that as one of my biggest life successes.

I wish that I could just get hypnotized and quit.

I am a smoker and have never tried to quit.. I am a lite smoker, that smokes about 2 to 3 ultra light cigarettes a day.

What I have read, to quit smoking you need to be mentally ready, other you will struggle to quit

Myself I am not ready too.. I know I am addicted as I do get cravings, especially when I stress.. often after a bad day at work (I rarely smoke at work)... I cant wait to get home so I can light up.
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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2019, 02:06:26 pm »
I am a smoker and have never tried to quit.. I am a lite smoker, that smokes about 2 to 3 ultra light cigarettes a day.

What I have read, to quit smoking you need to be mentally ready, other you will struggle to quit

Myself I am not ready too.. I know I am addicted as I do get cravings, especially when I stress.. often after a bad day at work (I rarely smoke at work)... I cant wait to get home so I can light up.

Hi Noleen,                             08 March 2019

There's only one thing you need to do: Take control of YOU away from stuff. You're allowing destructive <poo> to ultimately destroy your life. If you think otherwise, you're living in Denial. I have been there and done that and have witnessed the tragic results of continuing along that path. Fortunately, I bailed, but my friends didn't; none are still alive.

Best Always, Love
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2019, 09:50:43 am »
I am a smoker and have never tried to quit.. I am a lite smoker, that smokes about 2 to 3 ultra light cigarettes a day.

What I have read, to quit smoking you need to be mentally ready, other you will struggle to quit

Myself I am not ready too.. I know I am addicted as I do get cravings, especially when I stress.. often after a bad day at work (I rarely smoke at work)... I cant wait to get home so I can light up.

Well I have joined the ranks of a non smoker, I have not smoked in 5 weeks now..

I had a bit of a health scare, which forced me to stop.. I had some growth on my tonsils, which might of being caused from my smoking habit. The growth along with my tonsil was removed... no cancer or anything like that. But that was enough to scare me.

I was a smoker for about 12 years, which 10 of those was a daily smoker

The first week was hard, had some nicotine withdraw.. I had some serious cravings, but the cravings have subsided and I do feel so much better.. I still get some cravings, but they not near as bad and far in between.

I have no intention of smoking again, as I know if I cave.. I don't think I will be able to stop a second time.

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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2019, 07:41:29 pm »
I quit smoking awhile ago, but everytime I visit my doctor she makes sure I am not smoking and asks if I am ever around cigarette smoke!

What becomes so much more horrible about even being around smoke? It sounds like if I even see a cloud of smoke I'll get DVT.
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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2019, 07:16:02 am »
...It sounds like if I even see a cloud of smoke I'll get DVT.

Second hand smoke is almost as bad as deliberately smoking. The smoke is diluted with the air in the room, so any danger is more related to the cumulative amount of smoke you have inhaled throughout your life.

Congratulation to all you ladies who have quit.  :) 

One thing I have noticed about ex-smokers is that they seem to be a little more aggressive in getting others to quit. Please be gentle with your friends who are still smoking. They will quit when they are ready to, just like you.  ;)




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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2019, 05:57:00 pm »
Second hand smoke is almost as bad as deliberately smoking. The smoke is diluted with the air in the room, so any danger is more related to the cumulative amount of smoke you have inhaled throughout your life.

Congratulation to all you ladies who have quit.  :) 

One thing I have noticed about ex-smokers is that they seem to be a little more aggressive in getting others to quit. Please be gentle with your friends who are still smoking. They will quit when they are ready to, just like you.  ;)

Hi Folks,                      28 November 2019

"Please be gentle with your friends who are still smoking. They will quit when they are ready to, just like you." I don't need to be gentle with them, they're all dead.

I'm an ex-smoker; 3 pack a day routine when I quit over 50 year ago, 05 March 1969 to be exact. Started when a kid. There were 5 of us that grew up together and were life long friends. We all smoked tobacco, a couple did weed and tobacco and one anything he could find. I'm the only one that remains. The last two passed away 2 years ago within two months of each other; Lung Cancer.

Thirteen years ago my neighbors, a husband and wife passed away one week apart. Husband first. Wife went to his funeral and in less than a week she died. Both lung cancer. He was a chain smoker and she never smoked. She just lived in a house where she had to breathe his exhaust fumes. Second hand smoke can kill you.

When someone that is smoking tries to get in my space while smoking, either they stop smoking or I leave.

Even though I haven't smoked in 50 years, there is still damage from the time that I did, about 10 years total. It's most obvious when I have an echo cardiogram. Yes the garbage will clear out eventually, but the physical damage smoking causes never goes away; you're stuck with it. The younger you are when you quit, the better off you will be. The younger you are when you start, the more severe the damage will be and the worse off you will be. Your best bet, Never Start, if you do start, STOP.

There's not a single redeeming quality in smoking, drinking alcohol and using drugs recreationally. If you think there is, you have a problem called "Stupdiitis," which can't be fixed.

Yes, I did smoke and drink. Never used illegal drugs. Wish I had never done either, glad I never did the latter.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone.

Best Always, Love

Christine

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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2019, 06:32:34 pm »
Christine,

Thank you for your testimony.

I wish we could make this mandatory reading for all young people before they are tempted to use tobacco products. 





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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2019, 01:49:07 am »
Why do we have to quit smoking to get treatment?

You will have to ask them. I do know that smoking inhibits proper healing of wounds; think surgical wounds (they are wounds).

I stopped smoking 25 years ago but use snus, wet snuff, that I put under my lip. No smoking hazards but a lot of nicotine. It is 10 times harder to quit snus than cigarettes.

Have you ever seen cancer of the mouth? You really don't want to se it and you REALLY don't want to have it. Take control of your life, don't let something or someone control it.
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Is it nicotine that is dangerous? Or is it something else in the cigarettes?

There is NOTHING in cigarettes, snuff, tobacco that is good for you It is pure poison and will ruin your health and life if you refuse to cease using it.

Tony

Hi Tony,                    05 December 2019

I've posted here before on the subject of tobacco use. I happened by this thread and reread your post. I thought I'd add a few comments on the questions you asked.

I hope you have given up the nasty tobacco habit. If you haven't or won't, you will ultimately pay a very heavy price for your refusal to do so; it is up to YOU.

Wishing you and all the folks here at Susan's Place, a Very Blessed, Healthy, Happy and Tobacco Free Christmas and New Year.

Best Always, Love

Christine

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Re: Quit smoking
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2020, 05:58:34 am »
Well I have joined the ranks of a non smoker, I have not smoked in 5 weeks now..

I had a bit of a health scare, which forced me to stop.. I had some growth on my tonsils, which might of being caused from my smoking habit. The growth along with my tonsil was removed... no cancer or anything like that. But that was enough to scare me.

I was a smoker for about 12 years, which 10 of those was a daily smoker

The first week was hard, had some nicotine withdraw.. I had some serious cravings, but the cravings have subsided and I do feel so much better.. I still get some cravings, but they not near as bad and far in between.

I have no intention of smoking again, as I know if I cave.. I don't think I will be able to stop a second time.

I am still not smoking.. 9 months after quitting

I almost craved... about 3 months into my former smoker life... I had a bad day at work.. very stressful.. there were times that day.. I thought.. a cigarette will be nice now.. but it passed... Later at home... I was looking for something in my room and I found an old cigarette.. one of mine that must of fallen when I threw out my stash when I quit. then I got this craving I really want to smoke it... I even put it in my mouth.. the craving got stronger.. then I saw my lighter (I kept it as it was zippo).. it took a lot of will power not to light it.. but I did not....

I destroyed the cigarette... I knew had smoked that cigarette.. I would have gone and bought a pack and smoked another that day.. and more the next day.. I dont think I would be able to stop again.
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