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Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« on: February 13, 2018, 03:24:57 am »
This is an update to my older-ish post here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,233382.new.html#new

Okay, so quick introduction in case you didn't look at the last post, I'm a 17 year old biological male, wanting to become essentially as close to "hermaphrodite" (as you can tell by my username haha) as physically possible, as that's how I feel inside I guess? I want to talk about some revelations I've had about myself recently, and then also talk about stuff I've learned from last post's replies.

Alright, recently, I've had a huge realization about what i actually want, which doesn't change much, except for I'd be more happy with what's possible with medical things. Basically, what I originally thought I wanted was to be more half and half with male and female. I was at a party with anxiety about my gender identity, when I realized that I had a subconscious bias toward wanting to be more 75% female, 25% male (but still using "they"). I've noticed that for the past couple of years at least, my mind was always thinking about "what if I had been born female instead of male" and getting upset that I'd never know the answer because it's impossible to do so.

And I think the only reasons I don't want to be fully female, is well, in part, because of my family. They don't know about any of these gender thoughts I have, and I don't want to upset them. Not that they're not supportive, but just... They're slightly judgemental. they're already reluctantly accepting of me dating a male over the internet... I don't want to be judged even more. The second part is... I don't want to feel like I'm leaving behind what makes me me when I transition. Those two things are what's keeping me from removing my current name from my name entirely when I change it, even though I hate my name. Like, I'm wanting to change my name from) <first name> <middle name> <last name> to <new first name> <old first name> <last name>.

Another thing with this, is I realize that I don't give one singular shit (I try not to curse ever, so you know it's serious now) about if I'm rendered infertile (meaning that last post is now useless haha) so I'd want to go with the MTF hormone replacement therapy while keeping my privates generally the same.

And with that, another problem pops up: I'm only going by what I've seen online when I search up what I'm wanting with Google, as I'm pretty much allergic to doing research (idk how to properly research things lol), so I have no clue of this is a possible surgery here. I've seen people talking about a surgery for using the tissue from the testicles to pretty much turn them into a vagina in its place. I'm not sure if that's realisticly possible, but if so, I'd honestly really want that. Tell me if anyone knows of what that would be called or if there's something else similar I should do or if that's even possible, since my findings are probably unreliable :laugh:.



Thanks for reading!
   - a dragon who wants to be a hermaphrodite. lol

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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2018, 03:48:20 am »
I'm not entirely sure what you're interested in, but you mentioned breasts before. There was a guy in Las Vegas who got breast implants to win a $100k bet. No HRT. If you search there's even a YouTube video. I suspect this wouldn't give a very good result compare to being on HRT. His name is Brian Zembic.

If you search YouTube for Leigh Dorei, he (I think) got FFS without HRT.

I don't think you'll get anywhere with the genitals. I've not seen any convincing evidence anyone (AMAB) has ever managed this, and there's a fair number of people I've seen interested. I'm not interested personally but I'd have remembered if I'd seen it.

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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 04:15:50 am »
I'm not entirely sure what you're interested in, but you mentioned breasts before. There was a guy in Las Vegas who got breast implants to win a $100k bet. No HRT. If you search there's even a YouTube video. I suspect this wouldn't give a very good result compare to being on HRT. His name is Brian Zembic.

If you search YouTube for Leigh Dorei, he (I think) got FFS without HRT.

I don't think you'll get anywhere with the genitals. I've not seen any convincing evidence anyone (AMAB) has ever managed this, and there's a fair number of people I've seen interested. I'm not interested personally but I'd have remembered if I'd seen it.
I don't want implants, as those seem to tend to not look/feel realistic, and I think they need to be replaced every now and then. I'm completely fine with doing HRT to get breasts and all the other things, and I don't mind the risk of not being able to become erect (though I've heard that people lose the ability to do so completely because of their mindset messing with the brain or something. I think I'll be fine as long as I continue having the mindset I have now).

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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 04:21:57 am »
There was a guy in Las Vegas who got breast implants to win a $100k bet.
Also, I've heard about that haha. I think that's the excuse I'm going to use when my family finds out:

Family: Woah, uhh.... Are you transgender now?
Me: Yeah, I lost a bet.
Family: Good job.

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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2018, 05:59:14 am »
Rip when no one's replying anymore lol

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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2018, 09:24:31 am »
Many of us respond to posts when we have something to contribute to the topic. What you are asking is very rare on this site and I have only seen about 2 or 3 other members express desires like yours. We tend to fall in the binary as far as surgery and the non binary are either comfortable without surgery or desire a binary surgery. I am not really sure the surgery you desire is possible and if it is, I suspect there are a limited number of surgeons who would provide it.

Something you many not understand is the standard MTF surgery turns the glans of the penis into a clitoris and while your no longer able to have penetrative sex, you still retain much the same configuration you had previously. The reason this isn't the surgery your asking about is because the skin is recycled to produce other structures depending on the surgeons procedure.
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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2018, 03:49:40 am »
Many of us respond to posts when we have something to contribute to the topic. What you are asking is very rare on this site and I have only seen about 2 or 3 other members express desires like yours. We tend to fall in the binary as far as surgery and the non binary are either comfortable without surgery or desire a binary surgery. I am not really sure the surgery you desire is possible and if it is, I suspect there are a limited number of surgeons who would provide it.

Something you many not understand is the standard MTF surgery turns the glans of the penis into a clitoris and while your no longer able to have penetrative sex, you still retain much the same configuration you had previously. The reason this isn't the surgery your asking about is because the skin is recycled to produce other structures depending on the surgeons procedure.
Yeah, I apologize for my impatience. I wrote that last reply when I was really tired and anxious, and I actually forgot I wrote it. Also the fact that I also meant to ask for someone to walk me through the hormone replacement thing, and the surgery thing is kind of a secondary thing I wouldn't really care about if I had or not. Though, I guess I didn't specify in the topic post so my fault there.

Also, like I said, I don't expect it to be possible, but if someone knew it was possible or had any alternatives or something, I would hope to learn more.

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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 08:38:52 am »
And I think the only reasons I don't want to be fully female, is well, in part, because of my family. They don't know about any of these gender thoughts I have, and I don't want to upset them. Not that they're not supportive, but just... They're slightly judgemental. they're already reluctantly accepting of me dating a male over the internet... I don't want to be judged even more. The second part is... I don't want to feel like I'm leaving behind what makes me me when I transition. Those two things are what's keeping me from removing my current name from my name entirely when I change it, even though I hate my name. Like, I'm wanting to change my name from) <first name> <middle name> <last name> to <new first name> <old first name> <last name>.

Your name is a label.. Your gender comes with a label.. But these are just labels, they do not make you YOU. That said, transition itself will change you. If change isn't your thing, maybe transition isn't for you.

And as for judgement? People will judge you for all sorts of stupid things - might as well give them something juicy to work with.

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Another thing with this, is I realize that I don't give one singular shit (I try not to curse ever, so you know it's serious now) about if I'm rendered infertile (meaning that last post is now useless haha) so I'd want to go with the MTF hormone replacement therapy while keeping my privates generally the same.

Future fertility can be dealt with prior to hormones, if that is a concern..

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And with that, another problem pops up: I'm only going by what I've seen online when I search up what I'm wanting with Google, as I'm pretty much allergic to doing research (idk how to properly research things lol), so I have no clue of this is a possible surgery here. I've seen people talking about a surgery for using the tissue from the testicles to pretty much turn them into a vagina in its place. I'm not sure if that's realisticly possible, but if so, I'd honestly really want that. Tell me if anyone knows of what that would be called or if there's something else similar I should do or if that's even possible, since my findings are probably unreliable :laugh:.

The procedure is called a vaginoplasty, it uses much of the glans and the skin of the penis/scrotum to create various parts of the vulva/vagina. There are options to use a colon segment or other graft for creating the vaginal vault. And no, it's not possible to have both - 2 things can't occupy the same space..

Now, as far as hormones, giving a timeline can be problematic, as many people react differently.. But generally, you'll find softer skin is the first sign you'll see. Breast growth should commence within 6 months, and last for as long as it lasts. Fat redistribution? Depends on your metabolism/diet/etc..
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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2018, 02:46:59 pm »
Your name is a label.. Your gender comes with a label.. But these are just labels, they do not make you YOU. That said, transition itself will change you. If change isn't your thing, maybe transition isn't for you.

And as for judgement? People will judge you for all sorts of stupid things - might as well give them something juicy to work with.
Well I don't want to change way too much, but I really do want to do the transition. What I'm saying though, is i want to look at my past as me, and not just a version of me. Not sure how to explain it besides that... My brain is weird haha.

Also I'm pretty emotionally sensitive? I worry too much about what people think about me. Though I do like that way of thinking, I'll probably be hurt anyway.
Future fertility can be dealt with prior to hormones, if that is a concern..
I thought it was a concern, but I realized it doesn't matter to me either way, ha.
The procedure is called a vaginoplasty, it uses much of the glans and the skin of the penis/scrotum to create various parts of the vulva/vagina. There are options to use a colon segment or other graft for creating the vaginal vault. And no, it's not possible to have both - 2 things can't occupy the same space..

Now, as far as hormones, giving a timeline can be problematic, as many people react differently.. But generally, you'll find softer skin is the first sign you'll see. Breast growth should commence within 6 months, and last for as long as it lasts. Fat redistribution? Depends on your metabolism/diet/etc..
Alright, that's completely fine. That's just a secondary wish I'd want if it was possible. Though if technology expanded to allow that to be possible, that would be great.

And yeah that sounds good, I'm not sure when to start though... Like, I'd want to start asap, but idk how much something like that would cost, let alone hide it from my family... I might wait until I move out, but I'm told it tends to be slower the more you mature. :-\

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Re: Male to "hermaphrodite" Update and revelations
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2018, 04:49:35 pm »
Well I don't want to change way too much, but I really do want to do the transition. What I'm saying though, is i want to look at my past as me, and not just a version of me. Not sure how to explain it besides that... My brain is weird haha.

I'm essentially the same person I've always been, just changed the label and packaging a little.

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Also I'm pretty emotionally sensitive? I worry too much about what people think about me. Though I do like that way of thinking, I'll probably be hurt anyway.I thought it was a concern, but I realized it doesn't matter to me either way, ha.Alright, that's completely fine. That's just a secondary wish I'd want if it was possible. Though if technology expanded to allow that to be possible, that would be great.

Worrying about what other people think is fine, to a point, but taken to far, it's just not good for you. And as far as surgical procedure goes, the limitation against what you want is not a tech issue, it's an issue of biology - 2 things can't occupy the same space...

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And yeah that sounds good, I'm not sure when to start though... Like, I'd want to start asap, but idk how much something like that would cost, let alone hide it from my family... I might wait until I move out, but I'm told it tends to be slower the more you mature. :-\

Cost is going to be dependant on a number of factors such as location and what you've been prescribed. You may be able to hide it in the short term, but I wouldn't plant on being able to conceal it for too long.
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