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Offline silvertime

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Help... voice and walking
« on: September 17, 2018, 09:04:30 pm »
Anyone have any good resources for voice training and walking properly. I see lots of stuff on YouTube but I would rather seek resources that others have used successfully to help them. Thanks girls.

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Re: Help... voice and walking
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2018, 10:01:32 pm »
 I am blessed to be insured by Kaiser and even more blessed that I live in Seattle and was assigned Emily Anderson for my voice and culture training. But we also have some good sources in our wiki's and links.  https://www.susans.org/wiki/Voice_therapy
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Re: Help... voice and walking
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2018, 10:14:34 pm »
There are videos that can be helpful, but I have found that simple observation works best for walking. I have a cis-female co-worker who has an awesome natural sexy walk. Simply walk to emphasize your hips to move side to side taking long-ish strides and swing one arm in rhythm, the other arm is relaxed. As far as voice, you just have to practice to find your range. Voice changes can take a great deal of work unless you were born with a higher voice tone. The two biggest clockers IMO are facial stub hair (blue beard) and voice.

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Re: Help... voice and walking
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 12:45:22 am »
Hiya!
I've noticed walking patterns among women are sooooo varied. Some 'walk like guys'. Teens and young adults lead with the hip, the leg doesn't straighten in the air, the knee stay bent partially so long as the foot is in the air, more like a march than a walk?

My advice for how I learned, just glance at women walking around and you can catch patterns. When I first researched, I found a lot said to use heels. Here's my method, push your... 3rd leg... between your thighs in a manual tuck, no adhesives. Then try to walk like the girls you noticed, while keeping *it* in place, preferably towards a mirror so you can see your hip movements. Doing this controls your stride length and makes you keep your legs together more. Use the mirror to make adjustments. Dont look down, just walk in a straight line. If you learn to strut by this method accidentally, it's okay, learn the feeling so you can adjust by feel when you're out and about and notice you're walking differently than other women.

Really hope that helps, it worked for me but your circumstances and desires may be different. Don't worry about walking too much. Unless you're 'swaggering', most don't notice if you're a little off in how you walk.

I still haven't found voice methods, and I've self trained to expand my range as a singer. Let me know if you find anything on that!

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Re: Help... voice and walking
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 05:09:22 am »
I am blessed to be insured by Kaiser and even more blessed that I live in Seattle and was assigned Emily Anderson for my voice and culture training. But we also have some good sources in our wiki's and links.  https://www.susans.org/wiki/Voice_therapy
Yeah no clue if my insurance covers assistance in this department. Haven’t even thought of that. Maybe I’ll ask my therapist this week.


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Re: Help... voice and walking
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 05:11:38 am »
There are videos that can be helpful, but I have found that simple observation works best for walking. I have a cis-female co-worker who has an awesome natural sexy walk. Simply walk to emphasize your hips to move side to side taking long-ish strides and swing one arm in rhythm, the other arm is relaxed. As far as voice, you just have to practice to find your range. Voice changes can take a great deal of work unless you were born with a higher voice tone. The two biggest clockers IMO are facial stub hair (blue beard) and voice.
Stub is indeed an issue. Still trying to find a good way to deal with that. Although my makeup skills are getting better. I found a product that is supposed to help the the blue effect. Gonna pick that up this week. Observations are hard for me to interpret if I am making the right changes. Voice is fairly difficult as well. Practice is the answer just not sure where to start.


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Re: Help... voice and walking
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 05:11:58 am »
Hiya!
I've noticed walking patterns among women are sooooo varied. Some 'walk like guys'. Teens and young adults lead with the hip, the leg doesn't straighten in the air, the knee stay bent partially so long as the foot is in the air, more like a march than a walk?

My advice for how I learned, just glance at women walking around and you can catch patterns. When I first researched, I found a lot said to use heels. Here's my method, push your... 3rd leg... between your thighs in a manual tuck, no adhesives. Then try to walk like the girls you noticed, while keeping *it* in place, preferably towards a mirror so you can see your hip movements. Doing this controls your stride length and makes you keep your legs together more. Use the mirror to make adjustments. Dont look down, just walk in a straight line. If you learn to strut by this method accidentally, it's okay, learn the feeling so you can adjust by feel when you're out and about and notice you're walking differently than other women.

Really hope that helps, it worked for me but your circumstances and desires may be different. Don't worry about walking too much. Unless you're 'swaggering', most don't notice if you're a little off in how you walk.

I still haven't found voice methods, and I've self trained to expand my range as a singer. Let me know if you find anything on that!
Will certainly keep an eye out!


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Re: Help... voice and walking
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 09:54:38 pm »
Stub is indeed an issue. Still trying to find a good way to deal with that. Although my makeup skills are getting better. I found a product that is supposed to help the the blue effect. Gonna pick that up this week. Observations are hard for me to interpret if I am making the right changes. Voice is fairly difficult as well. Practice is the answer just not sure where to start.


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Hi silver. None of this is easy. Please share any positive results you may have with the facial hair product. :) The default awful, painful, expensive option for facial hair is to sit in the chair for gawd knows how long and get each hair base zapped.

Voice is a big challenge. HRT can help a bit with facial hair, at least change the volume and color a bit. But no help with voice. Cis-males do have a wide range of vocal tones and voice training seems to be the best practice. There is a surgery option, but I'm not aware of the results of that. Training goals typically focus on increasing pitch, decreasing vocal effort and loudness. You most likely have a girl voice in you, the challenge is to find it and develop it, which takes a lot of practice. For me, I found a soft southern drawl .. it's works for me, but I'm from the south so it fits. :)


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