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Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2020, 01:35:20 pm »
Has anyone been out for an evening meal at a nicer sit down restaurant yet, for those in areas that closed their restaurants?

I heard that many lgbt restaurants were on the brink of closing and the COVID shutdowns did not help their cases, or that of any restaurant really.


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Re: Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2020, 01:57:40 pm »
I haven't gone to a sit-down restaurant yet. But I am occasionally ordering take-out from a couple of my favorite establishments.

Many restaurants around here are offering outdoor seating and are being very creative in making it work and maximizing the number of patrons in a decently safe way. But no indoor seating yet, and a few restaurants have already said that they don't feel comfortable offering indoor seating even though it will be allowed where I live within the next few days.

I don't think I would consistently support an LGB restaurant simply because it is LGB. If I am going out to a restaurant (which I don't do often), I want it to be a special meal with great food and service. However, if I knew the owner was transgender...yeah, I'd probably patronize that establishment at least once (but the food has to be good for me to come back!).

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Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #42 on: December 12, 2020, 06:20:38 am »
I am finding fewer restaurants open of any type for dine-in, or at all.
It is not a good situation to be in for many family owned local restaurants.
Perhaps the big name fast food places are doing okay.
Looks like NYC has banned indoor dining after this weekend.

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Re: Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #43 on: December 12, 2020, 08:22:13 am »
Here in Baltimore things are closing down again as well.

I don’t know of any restaurants that are doing well, except I find that a lot of bakery cafés are getting good enough traffic to hang in there - the owner of a local one told me their receipts are around 70% of normal, and that is enough to survive until the vaccine is out. Fast food drive throughs seem to be doing ok as well - the lines aren’t as long as usual but still there’s traffic.

Any other type of restaurant is going to have a brutal winter. If you have a local restaurant that you adore, be sure to show it some love with carry-out over the next few months. I’m going to start to do carry out twice a week.

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I am finding fewer restaurants open of any type for dine-in, or at all.
It is not a good situation to be in for many family owned local restaurants.
Perhaps the big name fast food places are doing okay.
Looks like NYC has banned indoor dining after this weekend.

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Re: Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2020, 09:17:17 am »
 I am sure that some humans will always look at us as space invaders, some humans will accept us and some humans just do not have it in the genes to accept anything outside of their frame of reference and their comfort zone. I do not feel I would be invading any establishment which claimed LGBT friendly status.
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« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2021, 02:14:28 am »
The months long prohibition on dining at Southern California restaurants ended a few weeks ago.  I've frequented a few gay/lesbian establishments with nary a stare or offhand comment. Actually, I've felt quite welcomed.  Just like before the pandemic.

It's hard for me to imagine any restaurant owner discouraging business from decent paying customers.  It's a tough business.  They need all the receipts they can get.
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« Reply #46 on: March 27, 2021, 06:00:14 am »
Many restaurants have had a tough time, many have close.

I have not eaten out much at all, as compared to 2019.

Next year will be better for us eating out, I am sure.  Maybe this year.


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Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2021, 09:32:44 am »
No, not any longer I think, for the most part. 

We are all in this together, plus many restaurants need customers of all kinds to survive.


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Good living, joy, unity, love, and happiness can come from following these practices: Never let selfishness or conceit motivate you.  Regard others as more important than yourself.  Do not limit attention to only your interests, but include the interests of others. 

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Re: Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2021, 01:30:47 pm »
It doesn't matter who you are, what you do, what you say or how you dress, someone will always find a reason to be offended.
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Re: Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2021, 02:20:30 pm »
Quote from: Angelaney on October 10, 2021, 01:30:47 pm
. . . someone will always find a reason to be offended.

lol I'd bring "a man" in tow, just to show >:( that your not infringing on "their turf"? (pun intended!)

 
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Re: Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
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Quote from: Chloe on October 10, 2021, 02:20:30 pm
lol I'd bring "a man" in tow, just to show >:( your not infringing on their "turf"? (pun intended!)
But then you’d look like a straight couple so you’d be still infringing


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« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2021, 02:05:27 pm »
Agreed - I think I mentioned this in another thread, but many years ago my mom and I went into a nice restaurant when we were out of town, and we didn't realize that it was a gay restaurant. We honestly didn't notice until we had been there a few minutes, and then we kind of figured it out. We got a few looks from other patrons, although I think the fact that we were clearly mother and son (at the time) made it better.

The food was very good, however! It was a great meal.

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Is it “invading” their space if we as mtfs dine at a gay/lesbian restaurant?
« Reply #52 on: February 22, 2022, 08:41:27 am »
This has been an interesting topic, to see various viewpoints.

Keep them coming!

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Good living, joy, unity, love, and happiness can come from following these practices: Never let selfishness or conceit motivate you.  Regard others as more important than yourself.  Do not limit attention to only your interests, but include the interests of others. 

It is not usually about how fast you transition, it is about how well you transition.   .

I am a brown eyed brunette.
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