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Michelledeanna1989:
I’ve been considering de transitioning for better employment opportunities
14 months on hrt I’m just shy of 30, I really would prefer to transition but
I feel I won’t get job. I’ve been working as a custodian the past
Few months but the company is extremely toxic so I issued my notice
I just don’t get offers like I did pre transition  no more then 3 and I’ll be hired
Now I’ve lost count of the amount of interviews I attend.  No one wants to hire me
No one asks for my references I’m the one that offers, my dad is extremely transphobic
He also I think is more honest then everyone else who tells me he is wrong
He says he has been in business long enough to know companies refuse to hire trans people
Even if it is against the law. Simply they don’t care.  So I’m starting to accept I am one of the
Minorities of people who simply don’t have a right to be themselves.

What is the process like coming off hormones I know I can except my
 My dysphoria to return. But hopefully I can get a decent job
Living my truth doesn’t matter if I can barley support myself

JanePlain:
I'm not sure I know what to say but I can tell your hurting.  I hope something good happens for you soon!  Is it possible you could stay on HRT and find work?  I understand how having a place to live and food to eat can become more important then anything else. 

I was reading about someone who was quite brilliant and worked at IBM and they just went ape when she transitioned.  She had to move, start over and kept her having transitioned a secret.  I imagine that was a ton of stress.  And then it was a big step down in pay and probably not the most exciting work.  I'm just guessing but I think some of this is just the typical <poor> treatment of women in general which is bad now but even worse in the 1970s when she was getting fired for being different by some IBM goon squad.  Now I see IBM makes a point of saying they don't discriminate (which might be true now) but how can you really tell?  Interviews and hiring is so random.  I only had to do hiring once and hated it.  Did the person have too many jobs?  As in not staying at a company more then a year?  That was a red flag but really its such a <poo> shoot.  I've always thought you have to know someone in the company to get a foot in and if the only people you know were when you were pretransition?

Anyhow - I was just going to say hang in there and good luck and then I just babble...  Hope things get better soon!

AnneK:
I worked for IBM in the late 90s and I got the impression they had a very tolerant attitude.  Of course, that could change with the manager, etc.  A few years ago, I started with one company, where the interviews were done over the phone, to minimize bias.  I never met anyone with the company in person, until I showed up to work.  I'm about to start a new position with a company that has a very inclusive policy.  I also worked at one company, many years ago, where one of the employees was MTF and went through the transition while remaining with the company.  Incidentally, I had applied with one company recently, where I knew the person doing the hiring was a trans female.  I had met her personally, on a few occasions.

JanePlain:

--- Quote from: AnneK on March 18, 2019, 09:28:04 pm ---I worked for IBM in the late 90s and I got the impression they had a very tolerant attitude.  Of course, that could change with the manager, etc.  A few years ago, I started with one company, where the interviews were done over the phone, to minimize bias.  I never met anyone with the company in person, until I showed up to work.  I'm about to start a new position with a company that has a very inclusive policy.  I also worked at one company, many years ago, where one of the employees was MTF and went through the transition while remaining with the company.  Incidentally, I had applied with one company recently, where I knew the person doing the hiring was a trans female.  I had met her personally, on a few occasions.

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Thats great to hear.  I keep forgetting her name but she has an extensive web site that is very interesting reading.  Anyway I'm glad you posted. It does my heart good to hear that things really have changed.  I think a public transition at work could be a nightmare but Its been so long since I worked a "normal" 80 hour corporate gig I really have no clue.  Contracting and writing jobs don't require anyone to be accepting.  Oh <poo> its 2 AM again and I was going to go to bed early. 

Rakel:

--- Quote from: Michelledeanna1989 on March 18, 2019, 07:07:21 pm ---I’ve been considering de transitioning for better employment opportunities

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I know a few people who are self employed and in transition. Her customers who need her services all said that they are only concerned about their business operations. She works in IT.

Unless we are independently wealthy, employment issues should be a major part of everybody's transition plan, not only during transition, but afterwards as well.


--- Quote ---Even if it is against the law. Simply they don’t care. 

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Enforcing your rights takes time and money. They know you have limited resources and they can always come up with another excuse. Many of us have delayed our transition until we are in a position where transition is possible from an economic standpoint.


--- Quote ---What is the process like coming off hormones I know I can except my dysphoria to return.

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Since you have been on HRT for almost a year, I expect you are just now beginning to show some changes. I also expect that your bodies own Testosterone production is now somewhat less than before transition. Most probably, you will not return to your previous state, but rather just pause where you are right now for a while anyway.

Think of this as just another thing on your "transition to do list". When you do interview for a new job, focus on your job skills, this is what employers really want to know.

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