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CHICK-FIL-A DONATION OF FREE LUNCHES TO LOUISIANA HIGH SCHOOL DECLINED

https://www.newsweek.com/chick-fil-lgbtq-lusher-high-school-new-orleans-1464594

Newsweek/By Ewan Palmer Friday, October 11, 2019

The principal of a high school in New Orleans, Louisiana, has rejected an offer of free meals for teachers from Chick-fil-A in solidarity with the LGBTQ community.

Dr. Steven Corbett, principal of Lusher High School, said he turned down the free lunches from the fast food chain as some of its staff members are LGBTQ.

In a statement, seen by 4WWL, Corbett also said the fast food chain's values do not align with the school's.

"Out of respect to our LGBTQ staff, we have chosen to not serve Chick-Fil-A at an employee lunch," Corbett said. "The #1 rule at Lusher is to 'Be Kind' and we live this motto every day.

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Re: Chick-Fil-A donation of free lunches to Louisiana high school declined
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2019, 12:51:34 pm »
Yup! Me too!

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2019, 01:40:16 pm »
Great!  People need to know about the "values" of the family that owns this restaurant chain.  That this happened in Louisiana is even better.   
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2019, 03:56:50 pm »
That school has the right idea.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2019, 05:27:09 pm »
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Re: Chick-Fil-A donation of free lunches to Louisiana high school declined
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2019, 10:14:51 pm »
I boycott Chick-Fil-A.

But I do use their bathrooms.   >:-)

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2019, 10:33:02 pm »
I happen to be good friends with the owner of two local Chick Fil As. I really don’t care what the founder of the company or his son thinks. Our local store owner is pretty cool.

Another friend of mine also owns 5 Pizza Ranches (If you don’t know what it is, it’s like the pizza buffet version of Chick Fil A; typically owned and operated by evangelical Christians). There was a local LGBT group that tried to harass him over some corporate statements in the news, marching around outside one of his stores. He invited the group in to meet with him and have lunch on his dime to address their concerns. I know for a fact that he employs a large number of LGBT people in his stores.

When it comes to independently owned and operated franchises, I don’t take the head CEO’s opinions into consideration too much. They don’t have much influence over the store owners and operators. I personally like Chick Fil A, they have excellent food, excellent service, and a successful business model.


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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2019, 11:07:52 pm »


You’re welcome. It’s easy to paint with a broad brush and assume guilt by association. It happens all over the place. Just look at the negative view of the trans community because of recent headline grabbers like Jessica Yaniv.
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2019, 11:15:48 pm »
Y'know, don't get too wrapped up in this. Do we have to check the stock portfolio's of everyone? X has this stock, therefore I have to sell mine. :)

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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2019, 05:12:33 am »
@BlueJaye
I entirely agree with your comments.   

         *sigh* Out of respect for Devlyn and rules of this site I posted a rather CONTROVERSIAL reply ELSEWHERE! The crux of it -> "If a public school can "advocate" why not a church"? "TRUMP GIVES HISTORIC SPEECH ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM" and

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2019, 05:48:10 am »
Y'know, don't get too wrapped up in this. Do we have to check the stock portfolio's of everyone? X has this stock, therefore I have to sell mine. :)

Let’s hope not.

I come from what might be considered “enemy territory” by many in this forum. The conservative evangelical world was (and largely still is) the pool I swam in. I know people who stopped shopping at Target when they decided to publicly endorse equal rights for LGBT people. The same people will spend tens of thousands of their own dollars drilling wells for poor African villages and rebuilding houses in Haiti. They literally can’t see the hypocrisy.


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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2019, 06:15:22 am »
I happen to be good friends with the owner of two local Chick Fil As. I really don’t care what the founder of the company or his son thinks. Our local store owner is pretty cool.

Another friend of mine also owns 5 Pizza Ranches (If you don’t know what it is, it’s like the pizza buffet version of Chick Fil A; typically owned and operated by evangelical Christians). There was a local LGBT group that tried to harass him over some corporate statements in the news, marching around outside one of his stores. He invited the group in to meet with him and have lunch on his dime to address their concerns. I know for a fact that he employs a large number of LGBT people in his stores.

When it comes to independently owned and operated franchises, I don’t take the head CEO’s opinions into consideration too much. They don’t have much influence over the store owners and operators. I personally like Chick Fil A, they have excellent food, excellent service, and a successful business model.

The problem is some of the franchise income is sent to the parent company and, according to what I read, some of that money is given to organizations that are hostile to us.  The local franchisee may be fine, but some of every dollar spent there goes to an organization that's opposed to the LGBtQ community.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2019, 06:45:39 am »
The problem is some of the franchise income is sent to the parent company and, according to what I read, some of that money is given to organizations that are hostile to us.  The local franchisee may be fine, but some of every dollar spent there goes to an organization that's opposed to the LGBtQ community.

I don’t see it as that simple. Let’s say my friend Brandon (the guy with 5 Pizza Ranches) employs 10 people from the LGBT community (being food service in the most liberal city in Iowa, that’s probably much lower than the real number). I happen to know that Brandon’s franchise fee back to corporate is 4%. I don’t know the revenues for his stores, but let’s take the Iowa City store which is disproportionately staffed by members of the LGBT community compared to some of his other stores. I’m guessing that store does a little over a $1 million per year in gross revenue. Brandon is giving approximately $40,000 to corporate from that revenue.

Pizza Ranch pays well above average for the food service industry around here. Average wage is around $15/hr. Let’s call that an even $30,000/year. He’s putting $300,000+ per year into the hands of people from the LGBT community who really need it. Of the $40,000 that he’s sending to corporate, they are going to pay their operating costs out of it before they give anything to charities or other organizations. So how much might that be? Maybe 10%? Let’s call it 10% (probably much more generous than the reality, but it’s easy to work with for the example). So, $4,000.

That $4,000 get divided up among several charities, many of which are likely neutral toward the LGBT community. So let’s be super pessimistic and assign a value of 50% that goes to anti-LGBT organizations. We’re at $2,000.

I promise I won’t keep this going forever, but I have a point to make so bear with me. Let’s call the anti-LGBT organization “Pharisees of Tarsus”. Pharisees of Tarsus receives their $2,000. According to CharityWatch.com, most charities use 40% to cover operating costs.

So, POT gets to spend $1,200 persecuting LGBT people. The LGBT community gets $300,000 of immediately liquid cash.

It can be tempting to view business and philanthropy as a zero sum game, but it’s really not.




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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2019, 07:43:43 am »
The same people will spend tens of thousands of their own dollars drilling wells for poor African villages and rebuilding houses in Haiti.

         ;D lol ;) My church does that! It is Sunday ya know, but I don't see the "hypocrisy"? Are there gay people in African villages too? ??? My church also caters to "impurfect people" (misspelling deliberate) . . .

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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2019, 07:52:47 am »
         ;D lol ;) My church does that! It is Sunday ya know, but I don't see the "hypocrisy"? Are there gay people in African villages too? ??? My church also caters to "impurfect people" (misspelling deliberate) . . .

. . . and that is certainly me!

Lol! Yeah, as I mentioned to the guy on Quora, the majority of men in any given evangelical church are voracious porn consumers. It’s the dirty little secret of the evangelical world. It’s even worse in the fundamentalist cults like Amish and Mennonite.

A good friend of mine from church, now in her seventies, grew up in a hardline Mennonite community. Her father ran a community brothel and started pimping her out at the age of six to other men in the Mennonite community. She managed to escape the community late in her teens and went to college and became a psychiatric nurse.

Believe me when I say that harping on LGBT people by any church is nearly always performed by people with tons of skeletons in their closets.


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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2019, 08:34:19 am »
So they also donate to charities that help people. Their donations to anti LGBTQ organizations don't help anyone. Those organizations do nothing but spread hate.

Not going to spend my money there.

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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2019, 03:25:52 pm »
https://twitter.com/sloppyposts/status/1183097046670237696?s=19

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Please check your sources before posting. Spreading disinformation is not something to be encouraged on this forum.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chick-fil-a-gay-marriage/

Some readers asked, “Did Chick-fil-A really spend millions lobbying Congress not to condemn Uganda’s ‘Kill the Gays’ bill”? We found no evidence that Chick-fil-A itself spent money (let alone millions) lobbying Congress to prevent that body from issuing a condemnation of a controversial Ugandan legislative bill which carried the death penalty for some homosexual acts. Some sources reported that the Family Research Council (FRC), one of the organizations to which Chick-fil-A donates through its WinShape corporate charity foundation, filed a report stating that it had spent $25,000 lobbying Congress against H.R. 1064, a resolution seeking to “express the sense of the House of Representatives” that Uganda’s proposed Anti-Homosexuality Bill “threatens the protection of fundamental human rights.” However, the FRC said that although they did perform lobbying activities regarding H.R. 1064, they did not support the Uganda bill or the death penalty for homosexuality, and their lobbying efforts were not aimed at killing the Congressional resolution but rather at changing its language “to remove sweeping and inaccurate assertions that homosexual conduct is internationally recognized as a fundamental human right.”

In September 2012, the Civil Rights Agenda group reported that Chick-fil-A had pledged not to fund groups that oppose gay marriage:

Chick-fil-A has pledged to stop giving money to anti-gay groups and to back off political and social debates after an executive’s comments landed the fast-food chain smack in the middle of the gay marriage debate.The Civil Rights Agenda, which dubs itself the largest lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocacy group in Illinois, said Chick-fil-A agreed in meetings to stop donating to groups such as Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage. Such groups oppose same-sex marriage.

Chick-fil-A said that its nonprofit arm, the WinShape Foundation, “is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas[.]”
Shortly afterwards, Chick-fil-A issued an ambiguous statement about whether it had in fact made any such pledge:

For many months now, Chick-fil-A’s corporate giving has been mischaracterized, and while our sincere intent has been to remain out of this political and social debate, events from Chicago have once again resulted in questions around our giving. For that reason, we want to provide some context and clarity around who we are, what we believe and our priorities in relation to corporate giving.A part of our corporate commitment is to be responsible stewards of all that God has entrusted to us. Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.

As we have stated, the Chick-fil-A culture and service tradition in our restaurants is to treat every person with honor, dignity and respect — regardless of their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender. We will continue this tradition in the over 1,600 restaurants run by independent Owner/Operators.


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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2019, 04:04:49 pm »
No they don't personally lobby anyone.

They have donated and continue to and continue to donate to christian organizations that do lobby and promote anti LGBTQ legislation. As long as they continue to do so, they are not an ally and I will avoid them.  It is possible to be a Christian business without donations to groups that are anti LGBTQ, regardless of what other good those groups might do.

https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-much-money-chick-fil-a-gives-to-anti-gay-groups-2012-7

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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2019, 04:24:27 pm »
No they don't personally lobby anyone.

They have donated and continue to and continue to donate to christian organizations that do lobby and promote anti LGBTQ legislation. As long as they continue to do so, they are not an ally and I will avoid them.  It is possible to be a Christian business without donations to groups that are anti LGBTQ, regardless of what other good those groups might do.

https://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-much-money-chick-fil-a-gives-to-anti-gay-groups-2012-7

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That much is fine, just please don’t promote things that are false. We have enough trouble with bigotry and slander without painting bullseyes on our backs by spreading false information.

Also please note that the article linked to was in 2012, before Chick-Fil-A overhauled their charitable giving to remove affiliation with political groups and initiatives.

I’m not here to promote or defend Chick-Fil-A, so please don’t misunderstand me. We as transgender people are, unfortunately, on the defensive position of the debate. We have to be careful with how we present ourselves publicly. Exercising prudence when discussing public policies, businesses, politics, and religious beliefs and organizations is how we build credibility.

Disseminating false information, even if it is inadvertent, gives those who oppose our very existence a sense of justification to say things like, “see, those trans people are the real bigots and haters!”. And trust me, some of them DO play that game.


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