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Rachel McKinnon?
« on: October 21, 2019, 11:35:41 pm »
I had never heard of Rachel McKinnon before today. Two people I know on FascistBook both posted some transphobic news links about her today. Can anybody summarize to me what the big controversy is with her? I thought the UCI had pretty well defined guidelines for transgender competitors. Why are people upset about her performance?

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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2019, 11:55:03 pm »
Transgender cyclist Rachel McKinnon dominates, competitors raise questions

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/transgender-cyclist-rachel-mckinnon

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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2019, 07:48:07 am »
Transgender cyclist Rachel McKinnon dominates, competitors raise questions

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/transgender-cyclist-rachel-mckinnon

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Yes, that was the actual article linked to (good old Fox News, of course). It only explains that she won and people are mad. Why are people not okay with UCI's guidelines? It seems like there's a lot missing from the story. Just angry people and no explanation about anything.

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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2019, 09:50:36 am »
I think with Dr McKinnon its 2 things:

1. The first is that there remains much debate as what ought to be the requirements for a transwomen to compete in female sports. The fact that the UCI / IAAF / IOC etc have various guidelines does not mean that people have to agree with them. They are very controversial and I know a great number of cis-people who are not transphobic (and indeed transwomen) who consider that the present regulations are too lenient (or indeed too strict).

I don't see the article as transphobic at all. In fact its interesting that they even pointed out "After concerns about transgender athletes having an advantage in the Rio 2016 Olympics, Loughborough University in England conducted a study by reviewing 31 national and international sporting policies, including those of the International Olympic Committee, the Football Association and the Lawn Tennis Association. The study concluded that a majority of policies unfairly discriminated against transgender people, especially trans women". For foxnews it actually appears to be surprisingly neutral.

2. I'm afraid she doesn't do herself any favours on twitter.  Last week she suggested that the only morally acceptable sexuality was being pansexual. Now whilst I can kind of see what she is on about (ie. that you should fall in love with a person, not their gender or their genitals) funnily enough heterosexual / gay / lesbian people don't like it being suggested that they are immoral merely because they are attracted to a certain gender.

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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2019, 09:54:20 am »
Susan shared a more informative piece of work with me via a private message. I'll post the link here because it may be helpful for others like myself wanting to better understand this topic:

https://www.menshealth.com/uk/fitness/a26798247/trans-athletes-sporting-performance/

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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2019, 04:58:09 am »
I think with Dr McKinnon its 2 things:

1. The first is that there remains much debate as what ought to be the requirements for a transwomen to compete in female sports. The fact that the UCI / IAAF / IOC etc have various guidelines does not mean that people have to agree with them. They are very controversial and I know a great number of cis-people who are not transphobic (and indeed transwomen) who consider that the present regulations are too lenient (or indeed too strict).

I don't see the article as transphobic at all. In fact its interesting that they even pointed out "After concerns about transgender athletes having an advantage in the Rio 2016 Olympics, Loughborough University in England conducted a study by reviewing 31 national and international sporting policies, including those of the International Olympic Committee, the Football Association and the Lawn Tennis Association. The study concluded that a majority of policies unfairly discriminated against transgender people, especially trans women". For foxnews it actually appears to be surprisingly neutral.

2. I'm afraid she doesn't do herself any favours on twitter.  Last week she suggested that the only morally acceptable sexuality was being pansexual. Now whilst I can kind of see what she is on about (ie. that you should fall in love with a person, not their gender or their genitals) funnily enough heterosexual / gay / lesbian people don't like it being suggested that they are immoral merely because they are attracted to a certain gender.

I agree, I read the article twice, and didn't see anything transphobic about the reporting at all. BlueJaye, are we missing something? Your posts seem to indicate that Fox did something wrong in this story.
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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2019, 05:44:25 am »
I would have to go back to the original Facebook post, I think the link that was posted was titled differently from the actual article.

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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2019, 08:54:54 pm »
It is difficult to explain.

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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2019, 01:53:03 pm »
I too fail to see the transphobia of the Fox News article. If anything, it defended trans people lol.

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Re: Rachel McKinnon?
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2019, 02:09:05 pm »
I think Rachel McKinnon sometimes is too quick to yell transphobia.
Rachel in my humble opinion obviously has an advantage over the majority of cis women athletes. I wonder if Rachel complies with the prohibition of performance enhancers. DHEA is available over the counter and hard to prove.
McKinnon is also very aggressive quite quickly on social media from what I have seen from her.

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