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Ted Cruz and forcing decisions on children
Phina:
A big problem with this issue is that we just don't know what is best. There haven't been any real clinical trials to say what the best treatment would be, and any time children are involved, it's very hard to get anything approved, because by the very nature of trials, there has to be a control group, and an "experimental" group. The first tenet of medicine is "do no harm", and it's hard to know or prove what would be the biggest harm might be or to prove skeptics wrong without scientific data to back up our claims, which sadly we don't have much of and might need to wait years before it is thoroughly studied.
I've been there, and I hate seeing children suffer through this, but I don't know what we can do. I wish there was a simple lab you could run to prove it to people beyond a reasonable doubt, like if you're anemic or have a vitamin deficiency, but the brain is a complex organ.
Linde:
--- Quote from: Phina on November 02, 2019, 10:41:55 am ---A big problem with this issue is that we just don't know what is best. There haven't been any real clinical trials to say what the best treatment would be, and any time children are involved, it's very hard to get anything approved, because by the very nature of trials, there has to be a control group, and an "experimental" group. The first tenet of medicine is "do no harm", and it's hard to know or prove what would be the biggest harm might be or to prove skeptics wrong without scientific data to back up our claims, which sadly we don't have much of and might need to wait years before it is thoroughly studied.
I've been there, and I hate seeing children suffer through this, but I don't know what we can do. I wish there was a simple lab you could run to prove it to people beyond a reasonable doubt, like if you're anemic or have a vitamin deficiency, but the brain is a complex organ.
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But in the early age, nothing in any form or shape is given to the kiddies, and at 10 or 11 puberty blockers are given. We pretty well know how they work and what they do. Once the kid is old enough to make an informed decision (probably with 14 or 16), the blockers are stopped, and either replaced with the target gender appropriate hormones, or the puberty sets in and the kid develops with a little later starting puberty. This is no tragic event and happens a lot in natural ways.
My puberty started around 15, and I never finished it. Great for me that nobody in those days knew what to do about it, and I have this nice female body. But these days most pediatricians know what to do about late onset puberty, and they can do appropriate interventions.
I don't see the problem here, except a political power play! I think I grew up into a decent, successful adult, why should those kids be different?
Lady Sarah:
Politically, we are the favorite target to take aim at, so the steeple don't see the big picture whenever the big wigs do something truly evil. Accidently blow up a school in Afghanistan? Oooh! Look! Some transgender person tried to use the bathroom at Chic-Fil-A!
Ricki:
--- Quote from: Lady Sarah on November 03, 2019, 10:46:23 pm ---Politically, we are the favorite target to take aim at, so the steeple don't see the big picture whenever the big wigs do something truly evil. Accidently blow up a school in Afghanistan? Oooh! Look! Some transgender person tried to use the bathroom at Chic-Fil-A!
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A transgender person tried to pee ON a chic-Fil-A is a more likely story.
I started puberty 23 years before Lupron was approved for children with precocious puberty (people like me who started at 10) in 1993. Even if I had a clue as to what I was going through then, what "help" I may have received is a fairly wide spectrum of almost good to truly horrific.
What gets me about this case is that a high political official has directed CPS to dig up dirt on the mom so they can charge her with child abuse. Having dealt with CPS, I will bet that someone in that organization will pick up that directive and run with it.
Sickening,
Ricki
LizK:
--- Quote from: Phina on November 02, 2019, 10:41:55 am ---A big problem with this issue is that we just don't know what is best. There haven't been any real clinical trials to say what the best treatment would be, and any time children are involved, it's very hard to get anything approved, because by the very nature of trials, there has to be a control group, and an "experimental" group. The first tenet of medicine is "do no harm", and it's hard to know or prove what would be the biggest harm might be or to prove skeptics wrong without scientific data to back up our claims, which sadly we don't have much of and might need to wait years before it is thoroughly studied.
I've been there, and I hate seeing children suffer through this, but I don't know what we can do. I wish there was a simple lab you could run to prove it to people beyond a reasonable doubt, like if you're anemic or have a vitamin deficiency, but the brain is a complex organ.
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Phina I could not agree more...we need emphirical data to help the case of these kids and unfortunately we do not have it. Saying things like we pretty well know what it does and how it works, needs to change to we absolutely know what it will do and how it works but until we have studies to support this, the small amount of uncertainty will be used against the community.
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