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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2020, 09:48:07 am »
When I turned 70 I realized that I had to transition or enter the end my life in deep regret and unhappiness.  Three years later I have completed my transition and am deeply grateful and happy. 

Laura, for some of us life begins anew at 70!
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Dear Dorit:
First off, I am so happy to read ALL of the good reports from all that have contributed to this thread.

I agree completely with your reply comment....  except for a few edits that apply to my own journey:
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           Three Five years later I have completed my transition and am deeply grateful and happy.


*** It seems to me that one's age has less to do with successes in our transitions than most people think.  Transition is not just in our bodies, but also in our mental state and our self-confidence.

Thank you everyone for sharing your stories.

HUGS to all.....
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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2020, 08:05:07 pm »
Laura, How is your recovery going from FFS?

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2020, 07:04:20 am »
Laura, I like reading your story. As a fellow retired teacher, I feel the Sisterhood of Chalky Hands.

Like you, I'm pert near breastless, but I like the freedom of going braless and at 64, my breasts are still as perky as they were at 30. There's simply not enough for gravity to grab. I had a roommate who had pendulums at age 29. She looked great in a push-up bra, but they were tube socks with tennis balls in them without support. So, enjoy the sleek liberation of tiny breasts. I don't know if you like men, but plenty of men like tiny breasts.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2020, 06:06:49 am »
One Year

Incredible. That I’ve been on HRT for one year seems amazing, particularly since it took me four years to get to this point. We all transition at our own pace, and while my pace was start/stop multiple times for three years, last October I committed to the journey to be Laura.

It’s been an incredible year, particularly in the past four months. Much of that story is chronicled in my personal blog.

In preparation for year two, I scheduled an appointment with my Kaiser MST (Multi-Specialty Transitions) doctor and asked for my hormone levels to be checked. When the results came back, my T level was listed as less than 20 (Kaiser doesn’t specify so my T could be anywhere between 0 and 19) and my E level was 147, which I found disappointing. Why? Because I’ve not experienced any breast growth or tenderness since late December. My doctor soon emailed that my levels were perfect.  I had hoped to convince my doctor to change the delivery method, dose, or to add Progesterone, but to no avail.

During my phone appointment with my doctor, she explained that my hormones are in the goal range for a woman my age. (And I really hate being a woman of “that” age. LOL) She understands my concern about my lack of growth and said that most growth happens in the first year with some additional growth during year two. As she said, WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get.) and that most of us get an A or small B cup. While I’d love to add progesterone or up my E level, she said that they worry about heart attacks/strokes if E is higher. Their standard is the "minimum dose that meets my needs and is safe".  As far as progesterone, my doctor said they don’t recommend adding progesterone because they think that people who report growth during progesterone use are just adding weight.

Three Month measurements
Band size: 38. Bust size: 39.

One Year Measurements
Band size: 37. Bust size: 39.

She did mention that I can begin considering breast augmentation, since the wait for surgery would provide time for my breasts to finish their growth. What surprised me is that Kaiser now covers BA as medically necessary, so they’ll cover it.  Holy Cow. I’m in. I never progressed past an “A” cup, and while I know that’s more than some MTF get, family history led me to believe/hope that I’d reach a “B”. Time will tell and I’ll repeat YMMV so Danielle won’t have to. LOL.

I also asked her to refer me for GCS, so I’ll have updates soon about my BA and GCS consults in the future. My initial consult with the Kaiser shrink is next week.

Weight loss
I’ve tracked my weight for more than a year now, weighing each Tuesday morning which is my “official weight” for the week. During the past year, I’ve lost 14 pounds and am now 153 pounds for my 5’8” body. I do wonder what effect weight loss has had on my breast development and whether it’s too late to see progress. Still, I’m pleased that my clothes fit better. I have had many periods where I’ve gained several pounds at different points of the year as I splurged on sweets or other comfort foods or I was unable to exercise because of knee or back pain. I’ve definitely lost some muscle mass during the last year because my tennis serve and shots are less powerful than before.

During this first year on HRT, I came out to several close friends and neighbors. When I began this journey in earnest last year, I had come out to only one person, if you don’t count myself or the therapist I had told my story to three years prior. That my friend was completely accepting was one reason I gathered the strength to restart this journey. It would be another 11 months before I came out to eight people, but given that most were in the last three months seems to indicate that the snowball rolling down the hill is picking up steam.

While my FFS had originally been scheduled for mid-June, COVID shut that down and for months I could only guess when Kaiser would be able to reschedule. It was quite surprising when, in early August, my surgeon called offering me a slot the following week. Now eight weeks into recovery, my face is slowly becoming Laura, although I’ll need to continue waiting for another 6-10 months for all the swelling to subside.

My next appointment is a year away.

Onward.

Laura
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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2020, 06:28:45 am »
Laura, I too am small breasted and I quite like it, for I go braless 99.5% of the time. I don't know if you're straight, but the men I've dated didn't care that I was small breasted and there is one school of thought that maintains going braless gives the muscles that support your breasts a workout, thus making them less likely to sag. Perhaps it's worked that way for me as I'm 64 and my breasts are as perky as those of a 24-year old. Plus, it's my understanding that breast augmentation isn't one and done. Down the road, your breasts might have to be redone and each surgery carries risks. So, free or not, consider that flat is where it's at. 

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #65 on: October 08, 2020, 03:05:32 am »
I enjoy your formative update.  Again, your new avatar is so cute even after only two months!

This is a common approach to HRT :During my phone appointment with my doctor, she explained that my hormones are in the goal range for a woman my age.

My endocrinologist had the same approach. :(  The problem is we are not post menopaused women even though we are in that age!  We are transitioning transsexual women and we need the higher estrogen to go through our "second puberty."   Some doctors understand this and want higher levels, others don't, their concern about increased risks is also valid.

After 30 months on HRT I too barely had a A.  I had to use push up pads to get a reasonable looking bust for someone my size. I am 183 cm and 73 Kilo.  So I had the BA and threw out the push up pads!  I now have a natural looking B, plus I too can go braless as the implants are relatively small, 300cc.  Exceedingly happy with my decision. :)
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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #66 on: October 08, 2020, 09:27:41 am »
@Laura1951
Dear Laura:
I enjoyed reading your positive self-commentary on your ONE YEAR HRT update....   wow, time flies when you're having fun!!!

I completely agree with @Dorit ... "...your new avatar is so cute even after only two months!"

I am glad that your doctor is closely monitoring your hormone blood levels and is truly concerned about possible harmful side effects of levels that may get too high.   I love the reference to WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get.)  .... the other Acronym that you have said that you heard me say here on the Forums is YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary)
Both of those are something that affects all that are transitioning.  Patience is required...and if needed there are clothing choices and other measures that can be considered to assist in appearance goals.  I am glad that you had a discussion with your doctor regarding possible Breast Augmentation.

I will indeed be eagerly looking for your updates soon about your BA and GCS consults in the future.

I am impressed with your weight loss report...  you have lost 14 pounds and you are now 153 pounds @ 5’8” body.
That is great news.   
My personal opinion is that weight loss does indeed affect breast size, that is why I think it is best to lose weight before HRT......   
....but that ship has sailed, so please don't try to gain weight to increase your breast size, just my personal opinion, that is all.... ! :o ::)

Again, thank you for keeping all of us updated.... we are all rooting for you!!!

HUGS, and best wishes,
Danielle
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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #67 on: October 08, 2020, 02:51:26 pm »
Laura, I too am small breasted and I quite like it, for I go braless 99.5% of the time. I don't know if you're straight, but the men I've dated didn't care that I was small breasted and there is one school of thought that maintains going braless gives the muscles that support your breasts a workout, thus making them less likely to sag. Perhaps it's worked that way for me as I'm 64 and my breasts are as perky as those of a 24-year old. Plus, it's my understanding that breast augmentation isn't one and done. Down the road, your breasts might have to be redone and each surgery carries risks. So, free or not, consider that flat is where it's at.
I certainly could be braless, with my "A"s, but I love the feel of my push-up bra. I know many GGs are small breasted too, but I'm still holding out that my body can be the little engine that could. LOL. I'm giving it another 18 months before I make the call for BA.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2020, 02:54:11 pm »
I enjoy your formative update.  Again, your new avatar is so cute even after only two months!

This is a common approach to HRT :During my phone appointment with my doctor, she explained that my hormones are in the goal range for a woman my age.

My endocrinologist had the same approach. :(  The problem is we are not post menopaused women even though we are in that age!  We are transitioning transsexual women and we need the higher estrogen to go through our "second puberty."   Some doctors understand this and want higher levels, others don't, their concern about increased risks is also valid.

After 30 months on HRT I too barely had a A.  I had to use push up pads to get a reasonable looking bust for someone my size. I am 183 cm and 73 Kilo.  So I had the BA and threw out the push up pads!  I now have a natural looking B, plus I too can go braless as the implants are relatively small, 300cc.  Exceedingly happy with my decision. :)

Thank you @Dorit for the compliment. I had the same problem trying to convince my doctor that I'm going through puberty and should have comparable E levels, but Kaiser does it best to keep levels much lower. At least I'm at the one-year mark and going out more as Laura.

Unless my boobs grow into a B cup in the next 18 months, I plan to have BA too.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2020, 02:57:43 pm »
First off, I am so happy to read ALL of the good reports from all that have contributed to this thread.

I agree completely with your reply comment....  except for a few edits that apply to my own journey:
           When I turned 70 35
           Three Five years later I have completed my transition and am deeply grateful and happy.


*** It seems to me that one's age has less to do with successes in our transitions than most people think.  Transition is not just in our bodies, but also in our mental state and our self-confidence.

Thank you everyone for sharing your stories.[/size]

Well, doesn't @Danielle look adorable with a face mask.

thank you for your continued encouragement. You're right that while transition is at first about our bodies, our mental state and confidence must transition as well. Now that I'm at the one-year mark, I need to get out more so I can build my confidence.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2020, 07:41:42 am »
14 Months

First, apologies for not updating at the 13 month mark. November was quite busy with posts to my blog and preparation for going full-time, so if you want to catch up with my life, Start Here.

They say waiting for changes during HRT is a slow torture, as we can't wait for out bodies to match our brains. We want it all now. Transition doesn't work that way though. Like puberty, transformation can take years. Of course, it doesn't help that our bodies had already been sabotaged by our own original puberties. Some of those effects, such as wider hips, narrower ribcages and bigger mouths can't be fixed. For the rest, there's electrolysis, FFS, BA, and GCS.

Since my last HRT update, the only changes i've experienced have been between my ears instead of between my shoulders. Still an "A" cup, i'm comforted that if my body doesn't cooperate and deliver a nice "B" cup in the next 6-12 months, i can always have breast augmentation, which Kaiser covers (bless their hearts.) Otherwise, no breast growth since last January/February.

My weight, which had settled in the low 150s exploded a bit between mid October and the end of November. It's something about raiding the bag of Costco Halloween candy and all the goodies present during Thanksgiving that have been the culprits. Now in the upper 150s, i have to buckle down to get back down to my preferred weight.

Now happily full-time, my latest torture has been waiting for a COVID vaccine before resuming electrolysis. That i'll have to have a four-day beard growth before each session means that every few months, it will be <deadname> that presents instead of Laura. I can't even imagine the horror of presenting as Laura with whiskers.

Sends shivers down my spine.

All good things come to those who wait. Well, good planning and being proactive doesn't hurt either.

Which reminds me. I inquired about GCS a few months ago and after an initial consult over the phone, i received a call from Kaiser setting up separate consults with their surgeon, a nurse, and their social worker regarding GCS and bottom electrolysis. The week before Christmas is going to be a bit busier now.

Onward.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2020, 08:36:17 am »
Laura, I'm glad that Kaiser has your back, but I'm jealous too. I transitioned in a time when insurance companies paid squat and it was cash up front, which meant saving and saving.

You might end up with more hips than you think. I own some men's clothing, but couldn't don a pair of men's pants because they wouldn't make it past my hips.
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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2020, 09:00:48 am »
@OldAndCreaky

I am standing on the shoulders of all those who came before me.

When I began HRT with Kaiser four years ago, during a three year period where I would start and stop HRT multiple times, Kaiser only covered HRT. During a year I was with another insurer, they covered Spiro but not Estrogen.

When I returned to Kaiser and to HRT, I was surprised by their increase in services. Now, I could have paid for FFS and HRT myself, having saved frugally during my career, but knowing Kaiser had my back gave me some security.

It's sad that coverage varies so much throughout the country.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2020, 09:54:57 am »
@Laura1951
Dear Laura:
I am so glad to read of your success with your insurance and with your planned medical and surgery consults regarding GCS.

As you so correctly stated with the the axiom "I want it all and I want it now"... it does not apply to HRT and our transitions.
The good news for you is that you are mentally forging ahead and taking steps to help your physical body to catch up.
   
I applaud you for taking the big step and going Full-Time as you have been reporting.  As you indicated in your other comments on other threads you are achieving good support and acceptance from others with minimal negative feedback for those that do not accept you as Laura.   
All of us that are transitioning or have transitioned experience negativity from time to time....  and kudos to you as you did last week on the tennis court, rise above it all... be confident and self-assured.

You so correctly verbalized what we all need to do i these times of Covid restrictions, insurance red-tape, and medical delays that get in the way of transition plans....   
      "All good things come to those who wait. Well, good planning and being proactive doesn't hurt either."
In this day and age, and in life in general, we definitely all have to self-advocate for ourselves.

I eagerly follow your HRT thread and your other threads and I am continually rooting for your continued success as you travel your transition road.

Many HUGS I am sending your way....
 
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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2020, 10:42:03 am »
Thank you, @Danielle.

Having followed your journey for years, I continue to be impressed by you, both for your success in life, love and transition, but for your giving back to the community. That's what led me to reach out to Devlyn to help with the news.

And, of course, I always have a special feeling when you read and reply to my various threads.

Thank you.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2020, 10:55:15 am »
Apparently, I'm not as special as I thought.

Conducting Google searches for transgender this morning, I decided to try a search for MTF as well.That's where I fell down the hole because one of the first results was for Manual Transmission Fluid at Walmart.

Now searching, I found the AcronynFinder site which catalogs 59 uses of MTF that include Months to Failure, More Than Friends, and Meet the Fockers.

At least I don't identify as a Military Training Flight.

Onward.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #76 on: January 07, 2021, 05:41:30 pm »
15 Months on HRT

And nothing new to report. I suspect I've found my maximum mileage as in Danielle's, Your Mileage May Vary. LOL

If I'm still an A cup in eight months, it's time for Breast Augmentation.

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #77 on: January 07, 2021, 06:51:57 pm »
15 Months on HRT

And nothing new to report. I suspect I've found my maximum mileage as in Danielle's, Your Mileage May Vary. LOL

If I'm still an A cup in eight months, it's time for Breast Augmentation.

Laura
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Dear Laura....   
First off.... continue to exercise patience,
for some transitioners 15 months of HRT can still be the beginning.

Here are my thoughts regarding your reported breast growth...
...and the following are only my thoughts based on my own personal experience.

I get that you are a little disappointed with your breast growth so far... but I am thinking that it may be a little premature to schedule your Breast Augmentation at this point in your HRT regimen.

At 15 months, HRT is still doing it's magic and may continue doing it's magic well into the 2 year point or beyond in your HRT regimen and journey.
 
For me, my breast growth ended up very satisfactorily ...  and I finally achieved a B cup at a month or two after the end of my first year (12 months) of HRT... and then finally after (24 months) 2 years of HRT, my breasts were developing into a full C-cup and they had pretty well stopped growing a month or two later.
I've been on HRT for 5 years now and I am very happy with those results.... 

Patience my dear Laura... 

As always, thank you for sharing your thoughts.

HUGS, and best wishes,
Danielle
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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #78 on: January 07, 2021, 07:12:32 pm »
15 Months on HRT

And nothing new to report. I suspect I've found my maximum mileage as in Danielle's, Your Mileage May Vary. LOL

If I'm still an A cup in eight months, it's time for Breast Augmentation.

Laura


I am sure Laura meant 8 months from now. She already has 15 months of HRT. This will bring her total to 23 months total 8 months from now. I hope everyone is on board with my calculations.  ???

With almost 2 years of HRT and only an "A" cup, I would not expect to see much more development.

Laura,

If all your female relatives are "A or B" cups, this would be the most you can expect. A breast augmentation at this time is a bit early, but if your dysphoria includes your breast size, then, by all means, go for it.

We do what we need to do.  :P

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Re: Laura's HRT Progress
« Reply #79 on: January 07, 2021, 10:31:57 pm »
If all your female relatives are "A or B" cups, this would be the most you can expect. A breast augmentation at this time is a bit early, but if your dysphoria includes your breast size, then, by all means, go for it.


@Rakel, @Danielle 
The strange thing is that all of my close female relatives had a C cup or better, so I've been hoping to reach a B cup, since "they say" you tend to reach one cup size under your close relatives.

But then, I'm also an "older" woman, so that could have an impact as well.

by October, I'll be at the two year mark, so if there's no improvement by then, the boob fairy is getting a visit.

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