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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #60 on: December 28, 2019, 04:19:05 pm »
I don't want to hijack this thread, but I do want to add my experience. I had CVP in 1984 as a revision/upgrade to my original PI in 1972. After healing there was a period of about 6 months where the discharge gradually lessened to what I would describe as a normal vaginal discharge; ie, not much.
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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2019, 05:32:17 am »
Also adding my experience.  I had Sigmoid Colon SRS 2 years ago. The only times when I have a discharge is after dilating (I do once a week) or after having sex.  Other than that I have no discharge at all.

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2019, 10:14:40 am »
Hi Autumn,

I'm also looking at minimal depth GRS.
I read your post on <not allowed> about your minimal depth GRS too so it's a nice surprise to see that you are active here on Susan's too.

I'm just like you a heterosexual trans woman.
I'm looking at minimal depth GRS because I don't want to have to dilate intensively during the first two years because of a very busy life schedule and impatience with the upkeep of the full vaginoplasty.

I have mostly dysphoria about the presence of a penis, not about the absence of a vaginal canal.
I can't use my penis for anything sexually related. It makes me freeze as soon as the guy would even consider going near that area of my body. It's just totally off limits for now. With a minimal depth GRS I would have the opportunity to have a genital region that is sensitive and no longer off limits, but without the need for consistent upkeep.

I know that dilation is less frequent with colon vaginoplasty and with peritoneal vaginoplasty but both of these come with higher risk than regular penile inversion.
I'm not willing to risk a fistula. With penile inversion that is a possibility and with peritoneal and colon as well.
So minimal depth is the only solution for me.

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2019, 10:21:55 am »
So he does a minimal depth-like procedure and you go back later for the second stage?  Is there a large time gap between the two?  Or is it he does stage one, and then immediately starts stage two?

Of course a cis-vagina discharges mucus too, is what you are experience different then was a cis-woman would experience?  Meaning are you discharging natural vaginal-type fluids or something else?

Thank you so much for sharing.  I am increasingly interested in GCS, and less and less interested in the penile inversion technique.


I followed up with someone who went there.. They got the minimal depth first and then 6 months later they are going for the colon part of the surgery...  They are happy with the aesthetics and function of the minimal depth first part..

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2019, 07:56:26 pm »
I've had a full depth procedure.

Dilation is not a big deal.  I use the largest dilator every two or three days, 6 months out from surgery.  My surgeon says I can drop down to once or twice a week, but it's honestly not a big deal (I spend some time watching TV dilating instead of doing nothing.  I take it slow - about 20 minutes each time I do this, then I soak in a nice bath for cleanup.  It was more work initially for the first couple months, but it was never particularly painful (the first couple months were somewhat uncomfortable at times).

I also have not had any sort of infection.  I'm careful with hygiene & I also douche after dilating (otherwise I have lube leaking out of me into the next day, which is no fun).  I know the douche is really controversial, but I do know that thus far I haven't had any issues.

I am going back for revision next month to correct urethra "aim".  That would have happened even with a minimal depth procedure.

I'd encourage you to be 100% sure you would never regret not being able to have vaginal sex - my wife talked me into this, she said, "Something could happen to me and you're bi, so you might want to be with a man some day. If you do, you won't regret having this option."  I think that was good advice.

That all said, your body, your choice.  It is wonderful to have a body that you love.  :)

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2019, 08:05:17 pm »

I followed up with someone who went there.. They got the minimal depth first and then 6 months later they are going for the colon part of the surgery...  They are happy with the aesthetics and function of the minimal depth first part..

Thank you for the clarification.  I wonder if two surgeries would make things more or less intensive in reference to healing.  Personally I think I would do the surgeries a year apart, but just because of my schedule.
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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #66 on: January 25, 2020, 08:47:58 am »
I saw Dr. Stiller yesterday in Spokane for a 2 1/2 month follow-up. I’ve been having some urinary issues to do with irritation, and it seems that dilation has irritated what is left of my prostate and urethra (much like after surgery) so I need to take some special medicine for my bladder for a couple of months. It seems that most everything is healing up, though I may need a moderate revision at about the six month mark. I have a bit of excess tissue at the entrance, though that may improve. There was also a small chance we may need to shorten the back end of my vagina laparoscopically; I have so much depth that it’s kind of hard to clean all of the lube and everything out, though this may improve by itself over the next several months and by and large my vagina does seem to be self-cleaning. I am on the second largest dilator, the green, and hope to be up to the orange in the next couple of weeks. My digestion is more or less back to normal, and I can’t really tell I had anything done to my digestive tract except for some minor gas pains here and there.

I highly recommend Dr. Stiller. His cosmetic revision of my previous surgery elsewhere is amazing, and he has been great about addressing my concerns. The colon surgery is a big surgery, but to me the results make it well worth it and I do personally feel this is closer to a cis vagina than skin grafts would have been.

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #67 on: April 26, 2020, 04:21:52 pm »
I saw Dr. Stiller yesterday in Spokane for a 2 1/2 month follow-up. I’ve been having some urinary issues to do with irritation, and it seems that dilation has irritated what is left of my prostate and urethra (much like after surgery) so I need to take some special medicine for my bladder for a couple of months. It seems that most everything is healing up, though I may need a moderate revision at about the six month mark. I have a bit of excess tissue at the entrance, though that may improve. There was also a small chance we may need to shorten the back end of my vagina laparoscopically; I have so much depth that it’s kind of hard to clean all of the lube and everything out, though this may improve by itself over the next several months and by and large my vagina does seem to be self-cleaning. I am on the second largest dilator, the green, and hope to be up to the orange in the next couple of weeks. My digestion is more or less back to normal, and I can’t really tell I had anything done to my digestive tract except for some minor gas pains here and there.

I highly recommend Dr. Stiller. His cosmetic revision of my previous surgery elsewhere is amazing, and he has been great about addressing my concerns. The colon surgery is a big surgery, but to me the results make it well worth it and I do personally feel this is closer to a cis vagina than skin grafts would have been.

Hello Autumn,
It's been a bit more than the 6 months you mentioned. And, I know the COVID has stopped most (all?) of Dr. Stiller's surgeries. But I was wondering if you ever went back for the revision you mention? And, if so, how did thing work out?

Thanks!!

Katie

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2020, 05:28:54 pm »
Hello Autumn,
It's been a bit more than the 6 months you mentioned. And, I know the COVID has stopped most (all?) of Dr. Stiller's surgeries. But I was wondering if you ever went back for the revision you mention? And, if so, how did thing work out?

Thanks!!

Katie

I have not been back for the revisions yet. COVID-19 broke out about the time I was going to plan it, and obviously I will have to wait longer. I am healing fine and the issues are very minor, so I am not in a huge hurry to have anything else done. Also, I want to get in better shape before I think about going under the knife again.

I still highly recommend Dr. Stiller and feel much, much better about things than I did before I had my surgery with him. I honestly cannot tell any digestive differences since the colon procedure, and all in all I am more or less back to normal.

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #69 on: May 28, 2020, 07:09:45 am »
So he does a minimal depth-like procedure and you go back later for the second stage?  Is there a large time gap between the two?  Or is it he does stage one, and then immediately starts stage two?

Of course a cis-vagina discharges mucus too, is what you are experience different then was a cis-woman would experience?  Meaning are you discharging natural vaginal-type fluids or something else?

Thank you so much for sharing.  I am increasingly interested in GCS, and less and less interested in the penile inversion technique.


Jane;
I know this is not the most current of threads.... but I thought I would pop in and at least answer your question....
Br Stiller has done all my gender surgeries thus far... eg. My stage one GRS, plus my Breast Aug...
The time between Stage one, and stage two? all depends on your healing.... I know a couple of girls (Both by Dr Stiller) where they only had about a year between the two stages... Where my original GRS was on Halloween 2018 (yes Oct 31st), and my Follow-up (second stage) is scheduled for July 21st of 2020...... a total of  20 months between stage one and two. Although Dr Stiller did do my Labiaplasty to take care of a few minor outer labial issues, and a minor lowering of my clit by a half inch... basically a minor outpatient procedure at the hosp... in & out same day.... That was on June 25th of last year (2019).. So Eight months from GRS to Labiaplasty, then 12 months from Labiaplasty to colovaginoplasty. The 12 months was getting the pre-auth from the ins co. for the colovaginoplasty, plus the whole Covid-19 scare.... if not for the covid-19 quarantine? This would have been done early last March...... BAH.. oh well... patience IS a virtue.... right???... giggle  So for me?? (since I can't take a chance with VFS) I only have one surgery left... FFS... and I have my FFS Consult with Dr Stiller? on July 16th... just before my other surgery on the 21st...  (because of my brain implants/wiring due to my Parkinson's? I won't trust anyone other than Dr Stiller to do my FFS... that would be surgery too close to my implants... really SCARY STUFF...)

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« Reply #70 on: May 28, 2020, 10:20:17 am »
Thanks for your response, Brigitte Michelle!

And, especially, "I won't trust anyone other than Dr Stiller to do my FFS..." Tuesday I have GCS surgery with Dr. Stiller. Of course, I question, Did I make the right choice for surgeon? Then, I read your post from out of the blue. It was fabulous timing!

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« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2020, 11:18:33 am »
Katie good lick on Tuesday, it is so great when one find a dr they really like and trust.  Keep us updated when you can.

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2020, 11:55:59 am »
Good luck Katie.  I wish the best for your fast recovery.  Please keep us informed as you go and when you can.

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« Reply #73 on: May 28, 2020, 01:00:27 pm »
Thank you, @mm and @AllieSF!!

I will update as possible...

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« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2020, 04:41:00 pm »
Thanks for your response, Brigitte Michelle!

And, especially, "I won't trust anyone other than Dr Stiller to do my FFS..." Tuesday I have GCS surgery with Dr. Stiller. Of course, I question, Did I make the right choice for surgeon? Then, I read your post from out of the blue. It was fabulous timing!
Katie

I'm so happy I could help quell your mind these last few days leading up to your GRS... I at least I had my wife of 20yrs with me to help keep me grounded those last few days before mine....... I know Dr. Stiller will take good care of you....... I look forward to hearing how everything turns out next week.....
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« Reply #75 on: May 31, 2020, 07:02:14 pm »
Good luck thinking of you KatieP!
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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #76 on: June 03, 2020, 12:13:16 am »
Hello all!

Well the title of the thread is wrong for me. I had surgery with Dr. Stiller today, about 8 hours ago. I am sitting in the hospital bed and feeling almost no pain. Stiller uses a spinal block for the bottom half and something to put you to sleep in the IV. I saw/felt nothing. About 3+ hours in the OR. The spinal block is gone, and my legs work great (I just did a lap around the hospital bed ward.) and my mind feels completely clear. But the spinal block residual, combined with a cocktail of oral meds, makes me VERY comfortable pain wise.

When I look down at my crotch, even with the big bandage on it, and seeing the flat space, makes me giggle...

At this moment, I am happy,  nearly pain free, and very glad I went with Dr. Stiller. Every single person  has been great and helpful and fun.

More to come as changes occur...

Katie

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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #77 on: June 03, 2020, 12:58:24 am »
Katie dear, congratulations!   To be up and writing on the forum 8 hours after surgery is amazing.   I wish you a continued easy recovery and the joy of your new life! :-*
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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2020, 05:48:59 am »
Congratulations Katie.

I can still remember the moment I woke up from my GCS. I felt just normal, the way I should have been all along.

All my issues with gender dysphoria were gone forever. The feeling is Priceless!

Please keep posting as you recover from your surgery, as we have many members here who want to know what to expect after surgery.

Take care.  :-*



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Re: Secondary Colon Vaginoplasty/Labiaplasty With Dr. Stiller Yesterday
« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2020, 07:09:57 am »
Hello all!

Well the title of the thread is wrong for me. I had surgery with Dr. Stiller today, about 8 hours ago. I am sitting in the hospital bed and feeling almost no pain. Stiller uses a spinal block for the bottom half and something to put you to sleep in the IV. I saw/felt nothing. About 3+ hours in the OR. The spinal block is gone, and my legs work great (I just did a lap around the hospital bed ward.) and my mind feels completely clear. But the spinal block residual, combined with a cocktail of oral meds, makes me VERY comfortable pain wise.

When I look down at my crotch, even with the big bandage on it, and seeing the flat space, makes me giggle...

At this moment, I am happy,  nearly pain free, and very glad I went with Dr. Stiller. Every single person  has been great and helpful and fun.

More to come as changes occur...

Katie

That sounds great! I hope that someday I can have a similar experience.

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