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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2020, 08:15:56 pm »
My fiancee is clear that she is straight and that she couldn't be with a woman. She fell in love with me as a bearded Viking like guy.

I'm sorry, but I have to ask: Then is she truly in love with you, or an illusion?

Difficult to hear, but a serious question that you need to consider.
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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2020, 06:09:05 am »
I understand that. I wanted a family too. I have a wonderful daughter so I have now ticked that box. I don't want any more children; being an only child, I felt a strong urge not to be the last in my family line. I have discharged that duty. Whether my daughter will want her own children when she is old enough will be for her to consider, of course.

It is, of course, possible to transition without using HRT or getting any other kind of medical intervention. Right now, that is pretty much the path I am taking, although I am on the waiting list to gain access to HRT and possibly surgery. You can also crossdress without transitioning. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Of course, you have to balance what you want to do with how it will affect your relationships. We all have to go through this. Some people are more accepting than others. But just so you know, there are options, and you do not have to consider that you have detransitioned if it doesn't make you happy to do so. - E
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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2021, 04:04:27 pm »
Congratulations on your decision. I tell people all the time, don't transition unless you absolutely MUST. Society places incredible pressures on transgender people only adding to their anxiety/depression. If people were allowed to live in a world with out judgement we would have harmony and less anger toward one another.

Another important aspect of transition is the medical side of things, the main point of your post. Transition is risky business. We are dealing with medical science, drugs, side effects, complications, etc. I wish you the best in bouncing back to your previous healthy state, if you started healthy that is!

Best of luck to you. What ever your destiny is in life, live well and happy.

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What do you mean by "unless you must"? One must breathe, drink water, and eat, but very little else "must" one do. One "must" transition or what happens? Unless you breathe you die. However, I don't know in what sense you must transition. I have not heard such an expression from my gender therapist.

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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2021, 06:25:47 pm »
What do you mean by "unless you must"? One must breathe, drink water, and eat, but very little else "must" one do. One "must" transition or what happens? Unless you breathe you die. However, I don't know in what sense you must transition. I have not heard such an expression from my gender therapist.

Dear iskra,

More than a few of people like us just could not go on living with the gender we were assigned at birth. For those few of us, it was absolutely necessary to transition in order to continue life. There are many reasons for self destructive behavior and gender dysphoria is one of those many reasons.



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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2021, 07:13:36 pm »
I've discovered that if I present as female, social interactions are quite normal. 
As opposed to the awkward interactions when presenting as my birth gender.  :o

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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2022, 01:24:02 pm »
This an old thread but a very important one as many have stopped and restarted in a frustrating cycle and everyone knows it too, that this happens with some people. It happened to me. I was on HRT for 3 months then stopped but the urge to have my feminine body back was so overwhelming that I am on it again. The effects after three months went away fairly quickly btw. Some people will struggle with this back and forth and I don't know what to tell you, except that it happens to me too. Some of it is due to the social problem of it, with family, friends and the fact that society hasn't normalized it yet, even when someone perfectly passes.  I'm not "out" as trans. I'm in closet mode and I will be for some time. This is due to "passing" issues though and not society.

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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2022, 11:14:17 pm »
As one who has de-transitioned I completely understand why your are doing this and I will in no way try to talk you out of it.

I did the same, Got married, had kids, became a preacher, gave it all up and transitioned. Then gave all that up and de-transitioned. Now I am back and going all the way even though it will probably cost me my relationship.

My point is, I do not regret the live I lived wile living as male. I would do it all over again to have my kids.

Live your life as you see fit and make the best of it!

I'll leave you with this final thought though...
If you are 100% sure this is what you want, are you posting here for closure or looking for someone to talk you out of it?

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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2022, 02:51:34 pm »
My fiancee is clear that she is straight and that she couldn't be with a woman. She fell in love with me as a bearded Viking like guy.

I know this thread is old but just in case someone reading this wife or fiance has said the same thing I will respond anyway. This is just my opinion and my experience. I have been engaged to some great women and it has not worked out for other reasons, so not transitioning because of that (AGAIN MY opinion) is not a good enough reason for me. Same for being married, I was married and it ended for other reasons, so not transitioning because your wife has said that is not a good enough reason. Although, the anger I had that ended that marriage might have stemmed from not coming to terms with my real self. Now I am with my current love and she said that exact things to me. And I had the super long goatee and sideburns. Every time I would shave my head, the sideburns would go too, and she was bummed but she got over it. You see my wife liked my goatee and liked my sideburns. and yes it is part of what attracted her to me. BUT, she loves me and the me she loves is a woman. Then, after i finally broke down, had an episode and came to terms with who I was, I told her I need to transition. I told her I am going to start to do things that I need to do, to transition and if i do something that bothers her, we will sit down and discuss it and go from there. And so far so good. she has not been the problem in my transition. I have been the problem. I am having a hard time getting over my anxieties and making calls to who I need to call.

But anyway In am going to tell you this now. I was on HRT for 2 years. I freaked out stopped. Pushed it all back down and I thought I was done with it. It was coming up on 3 years. And I mean I did not even think about it once in 3 years, then all of a sudden BAM!!, I am Back on HRT. Its been 4 Months and I am trying to figure out how to navigate all over again. But now I have Size 38C Breasts with absolutely nothing else done towards my transition. Oh I was a little lucky and my body hair is way thinned out this time.

So what I am trying to say. And it is my opinion. Personally I have never seen it go any other way.

IT WILL COME BACK!!! Each time you Push it down it will come back worse. Being transgender is a Medical condition. It is absolutely NOT a mental condition. You can NOT make it go away. Only real way of treating it is transitioning of some kind. That could be any one or all things you need to do to transition. Some people have just dressed under their clothes for the rest of their life and that was enough. But could it be for you?? It definitionally was not for me.

You say you want kids. Talk to your doctor see what you can do to stay fertile. You are transgender and if your fiance loves you it wont matter how you dress or what you look like. Transgender women can still "father" a child. And if you are not transitioning to keep her happy then I see problems down the line. Did she fall in love with you? Or did she fall in love with the idea of having a Viking type of guy and it would not matter who it was, as long as he looked like what she wants?

I know others may disagree with some of this. But that is why we post to get others way of seeing things. To open our minds.

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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2022, 05:14:51 pm »
What do you mean by "unless you must"? One must breathe, drink water, and eat, but very little else "must" one do. One "must" transition or what happens? Unless you breathe you die. However, I don't know in what sense you must transition. I have not heard such an expression from my gender therapist.

I am an example of someone who needed to transition or die, and it wasn’t through self harm! I knew I was trans all my life and very deliberately chose not to pursue transition,  as my priority was to have a family. I managed this and a great life as a male, albeit with a need to manage my dysphoria. It was becoming harder, but I was determined not to transition, and lose my loved ones. From age 50, I started seeing the signs of hypogonadism, and my dysphoria became stronger. But I was determined.

At 64 I became very sick, and after 7 months, my doctor advised me to get my affairs in order as they couldn’t figure out what was wrong with me, but my bodily systems were beginning to shut down. I was dying. I had told my doctor earlier I was suffering with dysphoria, so as an aside, she arranged for me to start estrogen, but didn’t expect it would help. Within one week, I was fully recovered. My medical team (4 doctors and a respiratory specialist) analysed what had happened, and admitted they had underestimated the cumulative effect of stress from me refusing to transition.

My body had started to transition 15 years before HRT, but I thought I was making decisions about my life. After 3 months on HRT, and for all the same reasons I had refused to ever start HRT, I stopped, and within a week, I was very sick again. It was very painful for me to realise that I was not consciously in command of my life, and that the doctors were right. I had to medically transition to survive.

I know I am an extreme case, I took it to the max in resisting transition as I am very determined, but I now understand what my medical team had told me. Cumulative stress is life threatening, and will eventually manifest in some way, like a heart attack, or in my case, a gradual breakdown of my systems. What I have learned from this is that we can, to some extent, ‘manage’ our condition for a time, but eventually it will cause us adverse health effects. I wish I had this knowledge much earlier, and I would have made wiser decisions, but I hope my case can help others see how powerful our condition can be.

You can put off transition for a time, but you will have to deal with the effects eventually.

Hugs,

Allie
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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2022, 06:49:01 pm »
...Being transgender is a Medical condition. It is absolutely NOT a mental condition. You can NOT make it go away. Only real way of treating it is transitioning of some kind....

Nora Kay

I need to clarify one point. Psychiarty is a branch of Medicine with overlaping issues, not a separate profession.

Gender dysphoria can be physical or mental or both. Any one person may experience any amount of one or the other or both or even neither. It all depends on that persons issues.

Yes, it is true that some of us with gender dysphoria need to transition, because all other ways of dealing with this condition have not worked for us. While others can find relief with something not as involved as physical transition.

Each person needs to find what works for them.




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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2022, 09:42:05 pm »
Nora Kay

I need to clarify one point. Psychiarty is a branch of Medicine with overlaping issues, not a separate profession.

Gender dysphoria can be physical or mental or both. Any one person may experience any amount of one or the other or both or even neither. It all depends on that persons issues.

Yes, it is true that some of us with gender dysphoria need to transition, because all other ways of dealing with this condition have not worked for us. While others can find relief with something not as involved as physical transition.

Each person needs to find what works for them.

Rakel, any person who has ‘mental gender dysphoria’ can be treated by psychiatrists and potentially cured. This is the basis of the concept of conversion therapy. The American Psychiatric Association, the lead body on mental issues, has stated that Gender Incongruence in trans people is a medical issue, and they have published a very explicit document to clearly point out that they do not in any way condone conversion therapy. They admitted that keeping Gender Incongruence in DSM-5 as a mental disorder was wrong, and was done to provide a diagnosis so funding could be accessed for patients. When DSM-6 is released later this year, it will not include gender incongruence in trans people as a mental disorder.

The confusion comes about because the accepted medical condition almost always causes psychological conditions in coping, and those who suffer with Gender Incongruence may benefit from psychological support. But the major health organisations worldwide have stated that Gender Incongruence in trans people is not a mental condition, but a medical condition. It is important that we accept that we have a medical condition that currently has no cure, and the only recognised treatment is transition. Not everybody transitions and many learn ways to cope, but, unfortunately, for too many, it has tragic outcomes.

Hugs,

Allie
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1961 Told my mother I was a girl
1976 told my fiance I was trans
1999 told my 2nd wife to be I was trans
2000 began being me at home
2018 Dysphoria made me seriously sick
2019 started HRT, not sick any more!
        Started electrolysis
2020 Full time, legally Me!
2021 Labiaplasty
        Divorced again and on my own
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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2022, 05:12:52 am »
Allie,

I believe we are saying the same thing, but in our own way.

What many people do not realise is the difference between a Psychiatrist and a Psychologist. They are not the same. A Psychiatrist has a Medical Doctor degree and MD after their name. A Psychologist is a Doctor of Philosophy in behaviorial issues. They have PhD behind their name.

Anyone with an MD behind their name is a part of the medical profession and as such, can prescribe medications, if properly licensed. Psychologists do not have prescribing privileges in the US, although some PhD's have collaborative agreements with someone who has prescribing privileges.

The situation is confusing, just as confusing as the difference between medical and mental health issues.

Any one person may have issues with one or the other or both or neither.



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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2022, 07:50:05 am »
Allie,

I believe we are saying the same thing, but in our own way.

What many people do not realise is the difference between a Psychiatrist and a Psychologist. They are not the same. A Psychiatrist has a Medical Doctor degree and MD after their name. A Psychologist is a Doctor of Philosophy in behaviorial issues. They have PhD behind their name.

Anyone with an MD behind their name is a part of the medical profession and as such, can prescribe medications, if properly licensed. Psychologists do not have prescribing privileges in the US, although some PhD's have collaborative agreements with someone who has prescribing privileges.

The situation is confusing, just as confusing as the difference between medical and mental health issues.

Any one person may have issues with one or the other or both or neither.

All Good Rakel,
                         I just wanted to be succinct about this confusing area so as to not add to confusion. Any trans person with gender incongruence has a medical condition according to the major health organisations. So Nora Kay was correct on this point.

Hugs,

Allie
1958 Knew I should be a girl
1961 Told my mother I was a girl
1976 told my fiance I was trans
1999 told my 2nd wife to be I was trans
2000 began being me at home
2018 Dysphoria made me seriously sick
2019 started HRT, not sick any more!
        Started electrolysis
2020 Full time, legally Me!
2021 Labiaplasty
        Divorced again and on my own
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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2022, 11:20:26 am »
Nora Kay

I need to clarify one point. Psychiarty is a branch of Medicine with overlaping issues, not a separate profession.

Gender dysphoria can be physical or mental or both. Any one person may experience any amount of one or the other or both or even neither. It all depends on that persons issues.

Yes, it is true that some of us with gender dysphoria need to transition, because all other ways of dealing with this condition have not worked for us. While others can find relief with something not as involved as physical transition.

Each person needs to find what works for them.


I am very much an odd person out around here.  At one point I would have jumped on the idea of transition.  That was back in 2016.  I have tried HRT.  With my medical issues the dose of E was so low my BT levels of E were not measurably higher than my E is anyway without HRT.  So, does it matter?  There are female aspects of me.  Transition would be to female.  Looking deep at the issues I am facing going binary female would not fit the real me much better than being binary male (and that is not very well).  So I will use the Term non-Binary as it is not really defined.  That lets me fit in as the "none of the above" that seems to define the real me.  This whole topic of de-transition sort of hits where I am and "Each person needs to find what works for them." really fits.  In a way I am going from M to F to none of the above.  So how do I present?  Basically what ever is easiest and I don't care what reaction I get.  This wouldn't work for many, but it seems to for me.


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Re: Quitting hrt after 3 months
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2022, 12:11:06 pm »
I think you should do what feels right for you. and if in this moment in time, you don't feel like transitioning is the right path, then do you.

Maybe you aren't ready just yet. or maybe you will find ways to cope with it and live with it without transitioning. and that's okay too.

At the end of the day, it is quite a hard journey but don't beat yourself up.

You will have a family, and your gf by your side.

You have to consider them, obviously, but I'd say with your decision, put yourself first. (not in a greedy way just a self love kind of way)

Also regarding 3months of HRT, probably that didn't affect you too much. I'd have been more concerned if you been on it for like 8-12 months :)

Did u microdose it or went full dose?

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