Author Topic: Do you think rock is dead?  (Read 643 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Andrea Candle

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 101
  • Reputation: +1/-0
    • My Music Channel
Do you think rock is dead?
« on: January 29, 2020, 10:57:20 am »
Gene Simmons has no illusions and claims that rock is dead.What do you think could have killed rock music? Fans, internet or maybe music labels? Once in the 90s I had a band and we dreamed of signing a contract with the label, at a time when CDs and cassettes were selling well, today you only need to play concerts and have a second job to survive. Streaming is also killing this business. Hip-hop sells more, you don't need to have talent for this genre to exist. There are also too many copying bands.Rock music has gone underground,like the old times....
“Stop thinking and end your problems.” Lao Tzu

Offline Haley Conner

  • *
  • Posts: 592
  • Reputation: +4/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2020, 11:26:18 am »
Rock isn't dead, but it's not being produced much by the major labels.  However it is still the standard in bars and festivals and other events.

Offline randim

  • *
  • Posts: 638
  • Reputation: +6/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2020, 11:34:35 am »
I wouldn't say it is dead, but it is certainly not what it once was.  The internet is a big part of that.  It makes it possible for music to be distributed more easily and widely, which contributes to a balkanization of the audience for rock music. When music was on physical media, the record labels were gatekeepers for what would be produced and played.  I think this helped foster more of a mass culture, musically speaking. You had acts that would fill stadiums and such.  Now, very few acts can draw a crowd that big. It's kind of a catch-22.  It's probably easier to be a musician now that in years past, but the chances for stardom and big money (or really, any kind of livable money) are a lot smaller.

Offline Haley Conner

  • *
  • Posts: 592
  • Reputation: +4/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2020, 11:43:44 am »
IMO it's harder to be a musician on the club level since DJs became a thing.  They are a safe bet from a club owners perspective, and they often get paid more than musical groups.  When you hire bands, it can be hit and miss, and many of them prefer to avoid the risk.

Offline Andrea Candle

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 101
  • Reputation: +1/-0
    • My Music Channel
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2020, 11:46:29 am »
Rock isn't dead, but it's not being produced much by the major labels.  However it is still the standard in bars and festivals and other events.

Yes...major labels don't see the future in rock.
“Stop thinking and end your problems.” Lao Tzu

Offline Andrea Candle

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 101
  • Reputation: +1/-0
    • My Music Channel
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2020, 11:47:47 am »
IMO it's harder to be a musician on the club level since DJs became a thing.  They are a safe bet from a club owners perspective, and they often get paid more than musical groups.  When you hire bands, it can be hit and miss, and many of them prefer to avoid the risk.

That's true.
“Stop thinking and end your problems.” Lao Tzu

Offline Andrea Candle

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 101
  • Reputation: +1/-0
    • My Music Channel
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2020, 11:53:49 am »
It's probably easier to be a musician now that in years past, but the chances for stardom and big money (or really, any kind of livable money) are a lot smaller.

True,today you don't need a big recording studio to record your own CD.
“Stop thinking and end your problems.” Lao Tzu

Offline CynthiaAnn

  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 11,330
  • Reputation: +12/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • like totally dig that pacific pulse....
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2020, 12:06:56 pm »
There is a whole slew of new artists that produce music that could be considered "rock". I admire the way Les Claypool markets today, his art finds it's way to the loyal fans, that appreciate this type of music.

One newer rock band that has made quite a name for themselves (imho) is Greta Van Fleet.

Prog rock has seen a revival of sorts, there are "bands seeking" in the prog rock sub genre here in the Seattle area for example...

kindness is love nurturing your soul....

Offline Andrea Candle

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 101
  • Reputation: +1/-0
    • My Music Channel
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2020, 12:13:54 pm »
There is a whole slew of new artists that produce music that could be considered "rock". I admire the way Les Claypool markets today, his art finds it's way to the loyal fans, that appreciate this type of music.

One newer rock band that has made quite a name for themselves (imho) is Greta Van Fleet.

Prog rock has seen a revival of sorts, there are "bands seeking" in the prog rock sub genre here in the Seattle area for example...

But this is not what it used to be and Greta is a copy-cat of Led Zeppelin ....
“Stop thinking and end your problems.” Lao Tzu

Offline CynthiaAnn

  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 11,330
  • Reputation: +12/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • like totally dig that pacific pulse....
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2020, 12:16:40 pm »
But this is not what it used to be and Greta is a copy-cat of Led Zeppelin ....

agreed on Greta, but people like it, it fills a void, they are good at it...

Look at it another way, how many Led Zeppelin tribute bands are in your town ? I can name several here...

Music is more diverse today than ever, and that's a good thing  :)
kindness is love nurturing your soul....

Offline EllenJ2003

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 182
  • Reputation: +4/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2020, 11:33:16 am »
Mainstream (pop) music nowadays is more hip-hop, or bro-country oriented, but there is new rock around - it's just not  mainstream.  It's more underground, which is fine with me.  As a musician, I've always found mainstream music to be bland, boring, and cookie cutter (send in the clones) in nature.  I listened to and played punk, thrash metal, and alt rock back when it wasn't cool to do so.  What hurt prog-rock so much, was that the songs became bloated overindulgent opuses, that like guitar shredding music became less songwriting focused, and focused more on showing how much talent the musicians had.  Having musical talent is good, but it does not automatically mean you'll write a good song.  It's too bad, because some prog rock is pretty cool.

Some interesting cool current day rock music (just don't waste your time trying to find it on your local FM Top 40 station)

Baroness (one of their guitar players is Gina Gleason, who is a riff mistress!!)


Mastodon (who incorporate some prog elements into their music)


Caspian (post-rock music at it's finest)


Torche


Russian Circles (another instrumental post-rock group)


Sleep (yes, they're a band again [after calling it quits in 1997] - they even released a new album last year)
HRT Since 1999
Legal Name Change and Full Time in Dec. 2000
Orchiectomy in July 2001
SRS (Yaay!! :)) Nov. 25, 2003 by Suporn

Offline big kim

  • *
  • Posts: 3,257
  • Reputation: +16/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2020, 12:52:00 pm »
Not dead yet in England

Offline CynthiaAnn

  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 11,330
  • Reputation: +12/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • like totally dig that pacific pulse....
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2020, 06:04:56 pm »
Not dead yet in England

so they say (like almost 50 years ago)



kindness is love nurturing your soul....

Offline ChrissyRyan

  • “Have a gentle manner”
  • Family
  • *****
  • Posts: 29,848
  • Reputation: +36/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • No act of kindness, however small, is wasted.
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2020, 06:20:34 pm »
No.  I will keep listening to popular rock, as there are many good songs out there.  Not so many good new ones though.


Chrissy
Be a good example of good behavior.  Always be kinder than needed.  Be tender to others.  You are as beautiful as the thoughts you think and the words that your speak.   Always stay cheerful, be polite, kind, and understanding.  Knowledge and action shown without love is not impressive.  If you look for the good in people you will find it. Healthy relationships are so important to good living.  Serve others.

Good living, joy, unity, love, and happiness can come from following these practices: Never let selfishness or conceit motivate you.  Regard others as more important than yourself.  Do not limit attention to only your interests, but include the interests of others

It is not usually about how fast you transition, it is about how well you transition.  

Offline Rakel

  • Formerly known as Dani
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 3,939
  • Reputation: +54/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • Rakel@susans.org
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2020, 06:25:39 pm »
I stopped listening to rock in the early 1970's. It was nothing like the late 50's and 60's. Back then almost everybody had a record out. We called them "one hit wonders". Recording companies were always looking for new talent. We had variety, creativity, melody, harmony, and a driving beat. Rock and roll spoke to us and we listened.

Only a few exceptional bands produced rock after 1974.





_______________________________________________________________

Retired Pharmacist with over 40 years experience in Hospital and Retail Pharmacies.
I still keep my professional licence active and in good standing.


Offline EllenJ2003

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 182
  • Reputation: +4/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2020, 06:53:33 pm »
I stopped listening to rock in the early 1970's. It was nothing like the late 50's and 60's. Back then almost everybody had a record out. We called them "one hit wonders". Recording companies were always looking for new talent. We had variety, creativity, melody, harmony, and a driving beat. Rock and roll spoke to us and we listened.

Only a few exceptional bands produced rock after 1974.

As a musician who has played lead guitar in rock bands, I beg to differ, but hey, whatever works for you musically.   :)
HRT Since 1999
Legal Name Change and Full Time in Dec. 2000
Orchiectomy in July 2001
SRS (Yaay!! :)) Nov. 25, 2003 by Suporn

Offline CynthiaAnn

  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 11,330
  • Reputation: +12/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • like totally dig that pacific pulse....
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2020, 08:27:42 am »
After last night, the answer to this question is again a resounding NO, it's not dead  :)

My sweetie booked us tickets for these 2 touring bands "Pigeons playing ping pong" and "Goose" that hit Seattle last night, at the Neptune theater, with a sold out house at 1000, the place was jumping. High energy funk / groove / jams and yes this ROCKED. There were kids to seniors there, with mostly college aged people.

21st century "Jam bands" their concert vid from a few days ago....



kindness is love nurturing your soul....

Offline JudiBlueEyes

  • Family
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,087
  • Reputation: +13/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2020, 09:31:03 am »
I don't think Rock has died.  It is just packaged differently than what some of us older listeners are use to.  Back in the 60's bands weren't afraid to cross genre's.  Think of Led Zeppelin's country style tunes, as well as the Beatles.  The Kinks and the Who certainly produced a variety of song styles as well.  As Cyndi notes there are a lot of great rock bands out there.  You just have to look and listen.
Wind blew in, cloud was dispersed
Rainbows appearing, the pressures were burst
Breezes a-singing, now feeling good
The moment had passed like I knew that it should

Offline Queen B

  • Newbie
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Reputation: +0/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2020, 06:01:29 am »
Genres never die, rock is simply not in the mainstream anymore, but I do think it has stagnated for sure, at least compared to other genres like EDM and hip hop where most of the really interesting stuff is coming from right now.

Offline Haley Conner

  • *
  • Posts: 592
  • Reputation: +4/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Do you think rock is dead?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2020, 07:04:29 am »
I agree that there isn't a lot of new rock out there that feels fresh and original, and about 4-5 years ago, after searching high and low, I decided to just write my own, and it's had a pretty good reception, mostly among middle aged people.

Tags: