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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2020, 05:36:01 am »
Platelet Rich Plasma is your own blood, just somewhat concentrated. I had PRP injections at the same time as my hair transplants. PRP is very effective in increasing the survival rate of the transplanted hairs.

As a treatment for male pattern baldness, I do not understand the science behind any claims of effectiveness without any hair transplants.





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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2020, 10:45:53 am »
Saw Palmetto is a herbal product that is sold as a nutritional supplement in the US. It is available all over the world as well. This plant does contain compounds known as phytoestrogens. These are very weak compounds that do mimic Estradiol somewhat. These are commonly used by older cis women who are experiencing mild menopause symptoms.

If you are considering Saw Palmetto for the purpose of MTF transition, a few people have said limited things about this product, but the majority of us feel that it is too weak for complete MTF transition.  ???

For hair loss, this product is not effective. You may lower your Testosterone and DHT a little, but to stop hair loss, you need to greatly lower your DHT blood levels. This is just not strong enough to do much of anything.


Hi, Rakel....thanks for sharing that.

That was my suspicions on it as well, as I couldn't see how it directly interfaces with DHT in any meaningful way.

Aside from being able to start HRT, I think my recourse will go back to the plan of a hair transplant and hair system combination, once I can get the funds for it (I know that hair loss can affect anyone, but for me, that's been a really big dysphoria trigger over the years).   
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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2020, 01:59:37 pm »
The hair transplant looks really good. :)

(I had read that after the grafts heal, using Minoxidil on the area where the grafts were placed will accelerate the growth) 
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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2020, 03:31:14 pm »
Lowering your testosterone level can stop hair loss and restore some hair, have you started HRT yet?
Sorry for taking so long to respond.  I haven't had a secure place to log on much since Covid.  Anyway, to answer your question, I have not started HRT.  But, my Total T was near zero For an extended time, and I didn't regrow any hair.  I don't take T, but I do take Clomid to offset an FSH and LH deficiency. 

I have been bald on top for more than 20 years.  I don't think it is coming back.  I am not sure I have enough to make a reasonably thick head of hair with transplants.   

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2020, 07:44:05 pm »
Sorry for taking so long to respond.  I haven't had a secure place to log on much since Covid.  Anyway, to answer your question, I have not started HRT.  But, my Total T was near zero For an extended time, and I didn't regrow any hair.  I don't take T, but I do take Clomid to offset an FSH and LH deficiency. 

I have been bald on top for more than 20 years.  I don't think it is coming back.  I am not sure I have enough to make a reasonably thick head of hair with transplants.

I also haven't started HRT and I've heard miracles happen, but I am skeptical like you.  I have classic male pattern baldness.  Bald spot on the crown and receding hairline.  My hair is very fine and thin too.  I have used rogaine for months now and taken biotin supplements, biotin supplements and shampoo, and nizoral.  I see no meaningful change yet. I'll be starting HRT soon - YAY!!! - and I am hoping for the best.

But plan B is a wig.  I've kind of made my peace with plan B if that is where I end up.  Go to a good wig shop, a trans friendly shop if there is one in your area.  You have to spend some money but OMG it is amazing what they can do!  Many cis women wear wigs all the time and some you just can't tell unless you are really looking for it.  And who the hell cares about people that are looking that hard at your hair!  I had some cheap wigs to start - forget that. My photo does not do it justice.  People are amazed. Just go take a look.

EDIT - I'm not advising against transplants and the advice from other girls here!  I may try that too and that is why I read this thread!  Just want to put another option out there.  I know other girls at Susan's use wigs too.

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2020, 01:56:31 pm »
I also haven't started HRT and I've heard miracles happen, but I am skeptical like you.  I have classic male pattern baldness.  Bald spot on the crown and receding hairline.  My hair is very fine and thin too.  I have used rogaine for months now and taken biotin supplements, biotin supplements and shampoo, and nizoral.  I see no meaningful change yet. I'll be starting HRT soon - YAY!!! - and I am hoping for the best.

But plan B is a wig.  I've kind of made my peace with plan B if that is where I end up.  Go to a good wig shop, a trans friendly shop if there is one in your area.  You have to spend some money but OMG it is amazing what they can do!  Many cis women wear wigs all the time and some you just can't tell unless you are really looking for it.  And who the hell cares about people that are looking that hard at your hair!  I had some cheap wigs to start - forget that. My photo does not do it justice.  People are amazed. Just go take a look.

EDIT - I'm not advising against transplants and the advice from other girls here!  I may try that too and that is why I read this thread!  Just want to put another option out there.  I know other girls at Susan's use wigs too.


Hey Madeleine, that makes two of us.....I'm glad wigs are a viable option, no matter what our hair condition is.

The one thing I would like to do, though, is try to get a transplant just for the hairline and frontal area.  I think this would allow for other options like toppers (where you have a good hairline and frontal hair to allow for clip-ins, etc).

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2020, 05:19:58 pm »

Hey Madeleine, that makes two of us.....I'm glad wigs are a viable option, no matter what our hair condition is.

The one thing I would like to do, though, is try to get a transplant just for the hairline and frontal area.  I think this would allow for other options like toppers (where you have a good hairline and frontal hair to allow for clip-ins, etc).

That totally makes sense and sounds like a viable plan.  I should probably look at toppers myself.

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2020, 11:49:16 am »
That totally makes sense and sounds like a viable plan.  I should probably look at toppers myself.

I found some good Jon Renau synthetic ones (top full, 18 inch, is the one I'm wanting to use, but they are pretty pricey, even for a synthetic one). 

The only problem is the clips in the front don't have a whole lot to grab onto without making my forehead too big (I wanted to make it as low-maintenance as possible, so ideally, I'd like to avoid wig caps and such....but, if I have to use them, I will).
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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2020, 12:21:55 pm »
I found some good Jon Renau synthetic ones (top full, 18 inch, is the one I'm wanting to use, but they are pretty pricey, even for a synthetic one). 

The only problem is the clips in the front don't have a whole lot to grab onto without making my forehead too big (I wanted to make it as low-maintenance as possible, so ideally, I'd like to avoid wig caps and such....but, if I have to use them, I will).

My wig is Jon Renau.  It was worth the money.

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2020, 01:54:21 pm »
I am having good results with Finasteride and "Rogaine".  My hair is much thicker and healthier now and I have started to regain the hair at my crown.

Unfortunately no help for the receding hairline, but I can style it to look pretty good for an "old lady".

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2020, 05:50:46 am »
My wig is Jon Renau.  It was worth the money.

Hey Madeleine, since this post, I splurged and picked up another Jon Renau wig, and I now definitely agree.  I'm really impressed with it (this colour is a near-perfect match....REALLY good for a synthetic fibre).
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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2020, 07:11:30 am »
I'm at stage 7 Norwood scale and type VII Hamilton classification. I have a small amount of growth on the scalp. I believe it's been like that for around 20 years.

I've just started taking Finasteride for it, though I realistically don't expect any significant level of improvement.

I have a lot of cheap wigs from Amazon, and I do like them. I get to change my hairstyle whenever I please; I love that! Quality is variable; some are really nice and some are not so nice.
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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2020, 08:06:41 am »
I'm at stage 7 Norwood scale and type VII Hamilton classification. I have a small amount of growth on the scalp. I believe it's been like that for around 20 years.

I've just started taking Finasteride for it, though I realistically don't expect any significant level of improvement.

I have a lot of cheap wigs from Amazon, and I do like them. I get to change my hairstyle whenever I please; I love that! Quality is variable; some are really nice and some are not so nice.

I had the same experience with Amazon.  One of the wigs I purchased was very impressive, whereas the other one was absolute rubbish.

I initially didn't want to spend extra money on a hair system, but I'm glad I picked up the Renau one; it made a world of difference.
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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2020, 09:39:06 am »
I need help with my hair. It's one of the sources of annoyance and misery. I was hoping being on hormones would significantly help, but I've been almost a year on hrt and there's been a little growth but it's so thin and light that it doesn't show. At this rate even with many years I don't know if it'd show much. I'm still trying to keep open, but I really want a full head of hair.

I can't afford a hair transplant. How much are the less costly ones?
I've been using all sorts of hair products and oils that are supposed to be good for hair growth and had great reviews, and it might've helped a little, I don't know. I had hair growth shampoo and conditioner before i started hrt and it didn't seem to help at all, and the chemicals only seemed to make me lose more hair, so I stopped washing my hair with harsh chemicals entirely. Still, whenever I do wash my hair with my mild shampoo, it seems to make my little hairs look even thinner that sometimes I can't see them.

I'm kinda of desperate about it, I don't want to wear something on my head all the time, and I'm not ready to try wearing wigs.

There's one more thing in store I want to try in the next months, but anyway I wanted to post and possibly get help one way or another regarding this.

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2020, 11:10:17 am »
Hey Madeleine, since this post, I splurged and picked up another Jon Renau wig, and I now definitely agree.  I'm really impressed with it (this colour is a near-perfect match....REALLY good for a synthetic fibre).

The lace cap helps so much. Plus mine shows dark roots which is what most women's natural hair looks like.  If anybody reading this is thinking of a wig, generally the more you spend, the better it looks.

However, I'm finding it to be too hot and tight and am wearing it less. sigh

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2020, 12:00:20 pm »
I need help with my hair. It's one of the sources of annoyance and misery. I was hoping being on hormones would significantly help, but I've been almost a year on hrt and there's been a little growth but it's so thin and light that it doesn't show. At this rate even with many years I don't know if it'd show much. I'm still trying to keep open, but I really want a full head of hair.

I can't afford a hair transplant. How much are the less costly ones?
I've been using all sorts of hair products and oils that are supposed to be good for hair growth and had great reviews, and it might've helped a little, I don't know. I had hair growth shampoo and conditioner before i started hrt and it didn't seem to help at all, and the chemicals only seemed to make me lose more hair, so I stopped washing my hair with harsh chemicals entirely. Still, whenever I do wash my hair with my mild shampoo, it seems to make my little hairs look even thinner that sometimes I can't see them.

I'm kinda of desperate about it, I don't want to wear something on my head all the time, and I'm not ready to try wearing wigs.

There's one more thing in store I want to try in the next months, but anyway I wanted to post and possibly get help one way or another regarding this.

Sarah, I understand!  Not having hair on my head is kind of heartbreaking for me! I don't want a wig really, I want my natural hair.

I've been using Rogaine for about 6 -7 months.  I've been taking biotin supplements on off for about the same amount of time. I've been on blockers for two months and estrogen for a month. For the last two or three weeks I've been using a dermaroller on my scalp once a week along with the Rogaine.  Looking at pictures I've taken over the months (I can't really see my bald spot otherwise) I can finally say that it is working! The part that was just scalp is now partially covered with fine hairs, but hairs you can see!

It can work!

Caveats:
* if you try the dermaroller thing, do some research.  You have to be careful.
* my understanding is that HRT very, very rarely leads to hair growth.  However, if you have male pattern baldness, blocking T can stop the further loss of hair.

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2020, 02:57:42 pm »
Sarah, I understand!  Not having hair on my head is kind of heartbreaking for me! I don't want a wig really, I want my natural hair.

I've been using Rogaine for about 6 -7 months.  I've been taking biotin supplements on off for about the same amount of time. I've been on blockers for two months and estrogen for a month. For the last two or three weeks I've been using a dermaroller on my scalp once a week along with the Rogaine.  Looking at pictures I've taken over the months (I can't really see my bald spot otherwise) I can finally say that it is working! The part that was just scalp is now partially covered with fine hairs, but hairs you can see!

It can work!

Caveats:
* if you try the dermaroller thing, do some research.  You have to be careful.
* my understanding is that HRT very, very rarely leads to hair growth.  However, if you have male pattern baldness, blocking T can stop the further loss of hair.

Thanks madelaine. I want to try whatever I can without rogaine for now, because I heard that it's hard to come off it without losing the hair that was grown with it, and I don't want to keep using it for the rest of my life unless I have no other option (And if money wasn't an issue then I'd be tempted to go for implants, which is another sort of last resort.)

I know to sterilize the dermaroller, I bought rubbing alcohol and will boil water too. And 1.5 in length for the scalp, while I have some other ones for other stuff.  I don't know if there's anything else I need to know about it.
I actually do have 'some' hair growth since last year, but the hair is very thin and light, so it doesn't show. I'm hoping there's some way to thicken and help more hair growth somehow.

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2020, 03:51:34 pm »
The lace cap helps so much. Plus mine shows dark roots which is what most women's natural hair looks like.  If anybody reading this is thinking of a wig, generally the more you spend, the better it looks.

However, I'm finding it to be too hot and tight and am wearing it less. sigh

I don't know if you want to spend more money on another wig or topper, but the 'Top Full' one Jon Renau has is apparently a lot cooler on the head than the lace cap one (although, it doesn't have a lace front, so your parting options are kind of limited).

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2020, 06:38:19 am »
The loss of my hair was so sad to me, it started receding around age 12 ..... boo, hiss!!!  I have worn wigs for years.  Long before I transitioned, and now that I have transitioned I wear them almost everyday.  I love my Jon Renau wig but right now I'm kind of panicked about it as they are currently out of stock of my style and color.  Egads. 

At the start of this year I decided to start trying to grow out my own hair, which I typically always kept buzzed down as low as possible.  The crown was quite bare and the hairline quite far receded.  I changed my hormones in 2017, but keeping my hair buzzed short I didn't notice any difference. 

I began using a lash serum to grow my eyelashes and my body responded very well to it, so I decided to start using Rogaine in about March or so of this year.  That alone has caused the crown to fill in significantly.  The hairline appears unaffected, but the top of my hair is for sure much thicker, but the sides are about twice as dense still.  Now that my hair is getting longer it looks better and is blending nicely with the wigs I wear.  People are quite shocked that my natural hair and my wig hair are almost identical in color. 

A month or so ago I began using a dermaroller to do micro needling.  Time will tell if it will do anything or not.  I doubt I will ever go for transplants.  Thus it appears as though I will be wearing wigs for the rest of my life, but I may switch to a topper instead of a full cap. 

Best of luck to everyone!!!

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Re: Hair loss solutions?
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2020, 10:42:37 am »
The loss of my hair was so sad to me, it started receding around age 12 ..... boo, hiss!!!  I have worn wigs for years.  Long before I transitioned, and now that I have transitioned I wear them almost everyday.  I love my Jon Renau wig but right now I'm kind of panicked about it as they are currently out of stock of my style and color.  Egads. 

At the start of this year I decided to start trying to grow out my own hair, which I typically always kept buzzed down as low as possible.  The crown was quite bare and the hairline quite far receded.  I changed my hormones in 2017, but keeping my hair buzzed short I didn't notice any difference. 

I began using a lash serum to grow my eyelashes and my body responded very well to it, so I decided to start using Rogaine in about March or so of this year.  That alone has caused the crown to fill in significantly.  The hairline appears unaffected, but the top of my hair is for sure much thicker, but the sides are about twice as dense still.  Now that my hair is getting longer it looks better and is blending nicely with the wigs I wear.  People are quite shocked that my natural hair and my wig hair are almost identical in color. 

A month or so ago I began using a dermaroller to do micro needling.  Time will tell if it will do anything or not.  I doubt I will ever go for transplants.  Thus it appears as though I will be wearing wigs for the rest of my life, but I may switch to a topper instead of a full cap. 

Best of luck to everyone!!!

Nadine, So happy for you that you're finding success with Rogaine! I hope others (including me :)) find success too.

PS your avatar pic looks great!

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