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Offline zirconia

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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #300 on: June 29, 2020, 07:12:44 am »
Normal is something people think they are when they want to be like everyone else. Because it makes them feel better.

Hmmmm... I generally think of normal as anything within one standard deviation.

It just means one is within 68% of the bell curve. Solidly belonging to the group. Which, given all the available variations still gives a lot of room for play.

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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #301 on: June 29, 2020, 08:22:55 am »
Hmmmm... I generally think of normal as anything within one standard deviation.

It just means one is within 68% of the bell curve. Solidly belonging to the group. Which, given all the available variations still gives a lot of room for play.

Wow Zirconia,

This created a picture in my head I hadn’t even thought about with Gender. I don’t know how many here have statistical or SPC backgrounds.

Think of the male/female spectrum as 2 bell curves on a line. What is considered Binary approximately is one standard deviation each. This makes a lot of sense.

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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #302 on: June 29, 2020, 09:26:12 am »
Bell curves might be one visual for explaining the variable overlays to see what constitutes normal is a specific population or group and that you might derive a 68% constant to define normal in that group but what the heck...I am abnormal and I am OK with it ;D.

I visualize gender simply as follows:

                                         

We are the missing link in the binary world ;).




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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #303 on: June 29, 2020, 09:42:50 am »
I mentioned this in an old post - if men are from Mars and women are from Venus, that means transgender people are from Earth. We are closer to understanding both sides of the equation than those who are stuck on other planets. After decades of allowing others to tell us who we were, finally understanding ourselves and finding the strength to live our truth breaks the mold we had been encased within. Breaking out can be painful and expensive in many ways, but the freedom to live our truth is priceless.

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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #304 on: June 29, 2020, 10:08:33 am »
Jessica Rose how is this?:

                                           
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #305 on: June 29, 2020, 10:25:06 am »
You made me smile Emma!

It wasn't easy getting to where I am now, and there were many times when I questioned what I was doing. Though in some ways my future is still uncertain, I know taking that left turn at Albuquerque was the right decision.

Love always -- Jessica Rose
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #306 on: June 29, 2020, 10:39:00 am »
Bell curves might be one visual for explaining the variable overlays to see what constitutes normal is a specific population or group and that you might derive a 68% constant to define normal in that group but what the heck...I am abnormal and I am OK with it ;D.

I visualize gender simply as follows:

                                         

We are the missing link in the binary world ;).

Hi Emma,

I was not relating the bell curve to transgender vs cis-gender, just the possible gender population across the spectrum regardless of physical sex. Cisgenders tend to think of this as two points on a line related only to sex and can't or won't see that is not the case. Trans-genders populate the whole spectrum.

I have used SPC in manufacturing and saw the relationship zirconia mentioned with what happens in nature. Everything has a curve of some kind. When products are made, almost no two are exactly alike, even though the spec says they are. I haven't tried to figure out how to put illustrations like you did on here yet. That might have helped.

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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #307 on: June 29, 2020, 11:06:38 am »
Confusion I was just playing with the statistical analysis visual.  ;D  Cisgenders are absolutely binary and linear.  We bring the great curves to the graph ;)
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #308 on: June 29, 2020, 04:34:55 pm »
Er...

I'd like to have two bell curves someday.

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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #309 on: June 30, 2020, 07:06:03 am »
Hmmm Ellie I think we just left math and entered the biology class.... :o
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #310 on: June 30, 2020, 10:21:55 pm »
I went out for drinks with my best friend Mike who I played hockey with who knows all about me. He insisted that I must transition. I hate him...massive sigh.
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #311 on: July 01, 2020, 01:55:34 am »
Listen to your best friend ,  if he thinks so and we think so to quote Star Trek  make it so .
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #312 on: July 01, 2020, 06:09:35 am »
I hate everybody.... ;D
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #313 on: July 01, 2020, 10:11:16 am »
We love you XXXX
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #314 on: July 01, 2020, 12:36:17 pm »
After all our discussions, I don't believe you have hate in your heart! Still on TEAM EMMA, no matter what path you take!

HUGS

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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #315 on: July 01, 2020, 04:47:03 pm »
Hmmm Ellie I think we just left math and entered the biology class.... :o

I never really liked biology... maybe now I know why! I have learnt quite a bit about the differences between the male and female anatomies, as I suspect most of us here have.
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #316 on: July 02, 2020, 12:10:04 am »
I went out for drinks with my best friend Mike who I played hockey with who knows all about me. He insisted that I must transition. I hate him...massive sigh.

my best friend Mike

My former name - coincidence?  ;D  But seriously not many people give better advice than your best friend.
1. They know you well.
2. They love you.
3. They are not in your situation and can think more logically.

In hindsight, in my experience, best friend's advice was usually right whether I was giving or receiving. But usually we don't like hearing that advice or we would have done it already.

Btw I think your Venn diagram pretty much made the point of my previous post.
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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #317 on: July 02, 2020, 12:22:46 am »
For those that know my story from when I used to run my own thread you may recall that I often credit my first group of mentors.  They formed the foundation of my beliefs and helped me find my courage.  And if you are the rare reader that remembers that a night of dancing with those friends cost me a pinky toe  ;D  well the youtube below is another member of that group of 10.  I was the newbie and she was just slightly in front of me.

Emma the reason I interrupt your blog is that I shared this with some other people recently and thought you and/or the readers might find it helpful or inspiring.  I reached out to Jane a few days ago and she is well.

She was the Captain of a Coast Guard boat with a crew of 18 and found the courage to come out to them all at once.  A true Rock Star.  She resigned her commission in protest to the military transgender ban and now works at Facebook.

Jane and I were the 'graduates' of the B.T. support group  ;D  I have posted here before what BT stands for but it is not allowed.

Thanks for indulging me Emma.
Enjoy.



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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #318 on: July 02, 2020, 07:12:07 am »


Kim that was a great YouTube video from an incredible person.  I am honored that you put it on my thread!  Thank you!

....now about my best friend Mike...I still hate him... ;D


Hugs,

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Re: Great so I am Transitioning, Now What?
« Reply #319 on: July 02, 2020, 09:23:06 am »
Thank you Kim. Powerful statement by Jane, and at the end she directly called out the reasons why what the president did was so wrong and costly to the country and to people.

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