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Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« on: August 01, 2020, 03:25:34 pm »
Okay so this may be a bit of a weird question but it is important for me and I cannot find an answer (I have emailed a few surgeons, but got very vague answers and cannot find anything online) So, I am asking if anyone would divulge from personal experience.

The frenulum is that flap of skin below the corona (the head) of the penis. What I want to know is where does that end up when you undergo GRS?  The reason I am interested, is due to a botched circumcision when I was 5, that is the only sensate part I have. It is enough to provide pleasure.. but I am worried where it will end up after surgery as it is probably the only way I could be satisfied.

So, if you know, and do not mind sharing (and what technique was used too) then I would really be grateful.

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Re: Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2020, 08:00:41 pm »
Sarah,

I really think that you need to discuss this with your prospective surgeon.

It is possible to make your neo clitoris of almost any left over skin. If this is the only sensate part left on your body, then it is going to be a real challenge for any surgeon to leave the nerve pathways intact.

Every surgical incision is going to cut some nerves somewhere. If the cut nerves are superficial, then sometimes they can grow back. Many people have reported numbness right after surgery and 6 months to a year later, they report that normal sensation has returned.

If a major nerve pathway is cut, the numbness may be permanent or worse. Paralysis is also a possibility in some surgeries.


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Re: Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2020, 11:18:07 pm »
There’s plenty of academic papers on this kind of thing.

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Re: Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2020, 05:30:47 am »
Thanks Rakel, I know it will be a detailed conversation in the future that I will be having with a surgeon, but I am considering first looking to see if some repair work could be done on the already present nerve damage before embarking on GRS,(but seems unlikely)  or if it would be best to just give up on having any sensation like that and just get on with it... you can imagine there has not ever been very much sensation and so it is my normal anyway..
But what you said is basically what the responses I got back: no guarantee's can be made; come in for a consultation/assessment. That type of thing

AnonyMs, I have read quite a few papers but none specifically have any reference to the question I posed, that is so important to me.. I wonder if you have any papers you would suggest?

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Re: Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2020, 11:20:27 am »
I really like Rakels response here.

Sarah sounds wise to look into possible nerve repairs prior to GCS.  You are doing what you can, beautiful woman!   Please have detailed conversations and find some trust in a surgeon being on your exact same page.

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Re: Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2020, 02:06:12 pm »
Unfortunately I don’t know what the papers cover in any detail. I guess you’ll have to ask a surgeon, but you’d probably have to anyway due to variations in technique.

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Re: Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2020, 04:17:33 pm »
Sarah,

I really think that you need to discuss this with your prospective surgeon.

It is possible to make your neo clitoris of almost any left over skin. If this is the only sensate part left on your body, then it is going to be a real challenge for any surgeon to leave the nerve pathways intact.

Every surgical incision is going to cut some nerves somewhere. If the cut nerves are superficial, then sometimes they can grow back. Many people have reported numbness right after surgery and 6 months to a year later, they report that normal sensation has returned.

If a major nerve pathway is cut, the numbness may be permanent or worse. Paralysis is also a possibility in some surgeries.

TRUE.

What I understand is that among intersex there have being cases were the doctors/parents have chosen the wrong gender.
Later on when the person wants to change it to the right one there is not enough material to work with.
So I would also be looking for surgeons that actual write that they treat intersex people.
"I wish there was another sex, a neutral one. One with no parts. One that was outside of the whole reproduction thing. Then people would never even see me as an option. That would be really nice."

Genderrelated accounts : AVEN / Youtube

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Re: Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2020, 07:15:14 pm »
thanks DKTG,
Interesting you bring up intersex, I only received my chromosome study last week as I requested it (the test was done over a year ago, but my endo said it made no difference to my treatment, but obviously that was for hormones).
It seems I am 46XX:46XY chimera, I developed a male body... so I thought... but it has got me wondering if the excessive circumcision was actually more of a repair to make me male? I have a lot of scarring around that part - from what I can find out it seems far more than a normal 3yo would have from a circumcision, and am not particularly large either. My parent would never of told me, she was not a nice person. And the surgery was done 47 years ago in a foreign hospital, so not much chance of getting any records.
There are other features too - I have no Adam's apple, very small brow-ridge and an slightly inverted perineum. My body is really changing on E2 as well, in 11 months of just being on E I have hips and chest in nearly female proportions and my mannerisms have always been very feminine. Living as a male I learnt to tone it all down a lot, but it was always a conscious thing with me...
So, maybe your right, maybe I have to take this whole intersex thing a bit more seriously, as I did sort of disregard it especially after the specialist said it made no difference to my treatment. But, hey, it may even explain the GD?

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Re: Frenulum of prepuce of penis
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2020, 10:09:11 pm »
It seems I am 46XX:46XY chimera, I developed a male body...

Extremely interesting.

It was only  a few years ago that we learned of people who have mixed chromosomes. The possibility of two sets of chromosomes in one individual was not even in the text books.

One possible explanation is that you started life as fraternal twins and somehow the fertilized eggs merged into one individual.

As we learn more about genetics, we seem to discover many more genetic variations other than the usual XX or XY.




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