Author Topic: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In  (Read 938 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Kara Lee

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 126
  • Reputation: +31/-0
  • Gender: Female
Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« on: August 26, 2020, 12:32:47 pm »
Hi there, I've not been on the site in quite a while but wanted to come and share with everyone how my surgery went and how I felt before, during, and after. I am here at hone on a Wednesday and my surgery started last Wednesday in the morning. I've been home from the hospital about 18 hours now.

My surgeon was Dr Roth who replaced Dr Gallagher at IU Health here in Indianapolis. Dr Koch was the doctor who was using the da vinci surgical machine for getting the perionteal tissue.

I decided on this surgery because of the lack of penile tissue and also I'm hoping the perionteal tissue will be better for me. They had to remove enough tissue to completely line my vagina with. I only had enough penile tissue for the inner labia. The outer labia reused scrotal tissue. Everyone told me that it l went very smoothly and there were no complications. The surgery took a bit over 6 hours.

I woke up in recovery feeling pretty good. The epidural they used might have contributed to that :).  The epidural was removed on Friday (2 days later) to make sure I had strength in my legs for my first walk back and forth in my room. Sitting was and still is an issue. The stupid donut is my nemesis. I had all the dressing over my groin but even after the epidural came out it was my tummy that was giving me the most aches. The worst pains I felt i. the hospital were never from the actual surgery. The worst was when they added potassium to my iv. It burned until they slowed its delivery a good bit. removing one of the drains and the urethral catheter were the next most painful for me.

Everyone I encountered at the hospital was very friendly and helpful. I was a bit surprised, living in Indiana, but I would have been happy staying 3 more weeks with them to receive more care.

I was quite shocked when they removed the dressing and I saw no bruising and minimul swelling. Everyone said I was recovering quite quickly. Since the drains and catheter were removed I've had a lot of swelling but no bruising has appeared.

Everyone was very nice to me and worked quickly if I was having any kind of issue. My biggest issue while there was sitting once I was allowed out of bed with supervision.

Now that I'm home I am seeing I have two issues to deal with. The first is the swelling is very uncomfortable and I'm trying not to freak out about it. I'm hoping it has leveled off. Even the lowe part of my abdomen where the tissue was removed from is swollen. That all is not helping me with my second issue. It's the OMG what have I done, omg this swelling is going to destroy my groin and all the work the doctors have done. My mind is the second issue. I dealt with depression long before this surgery and I can certainly see that rearing up with worrying about everything. I'm 53 and this is my first ever surgery, my first hospital stay and I can tell it's ovefwhelming. I'm glad I have 2 roommates helping as well as a friend who moved in here to assist. She has been awesome helping.

Well, I just wanted to share how things went and let people know IU Health is doing these surgeries and how I was treated while there. I don't know how many they are doing right now but they are doing some.  I'll try to answer questions the best i can.

Offline Northern Star Girl

  • Previously Alaskan Danielle
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 31,134
  • Reputation: +42/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • northernstargirl@susans.org
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2020, 01:11:46 pm »
@Kara Lee
Dear Kara Lee:
Thank you for posting your report regarding your surgery experience.

It sounds like you are doing well and now after your surgery a week ago you are home and recovering and healing.

I am glad to see that you have now returned to posting in the Forums again after your long absence... your previous posting was in April 2011... over 9 years ago !!!!!

Again, thank you for coming back and sharing your thoughts and experience.
I will be looking for more of your posts around the forums as you feel comfortable sharing.


HUGS and best wishes, and continue healing and recovering.
Danielle
***SEE MY LINKS BELOW
The Ramblings of a Northern*Star Girl
A New Chapter: ALASKAN DANIELLE's Chronicles
I am the HUNTED PREY: Danielle’s Chronicles
Things change re: ALASKAN DANIELLE
Positive Mindset... put away negativity

Started HRT:   March 2015
Went Full-Time    December 2016
Quit my male-mode job and relocated to a very small town in Alaska in January 2017
I'm a blonde, blue eyed woman, Age 40

Offline Dorit

  • *
  • Posts: 354
  • Reputation: +3/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2020, 01:30:02 am »
Kara Lee, thank you for posting this.   I am sure it will be an encouragement to others and actually myself too that the peritoneal vaginoplasty is gaining acceptance.  It seems you have some perspective on the trials of recovery. The swelling is to be expected, you just have to me patient and wait it out.   Also post op depression is a real thing, be gentle and compassionate towards yourself.   Some day you will look back at this with gratitude and delight, the suffering will be just a distant memory.
I first told a psychiatrist that I wanted to be a girl 1967 after a psychotic breakdown
Began therapy again with gender specialist 50 years later in September 2017
Began HRT November 2017
Name change with Israel Ministry of Interior March 2018
FFS September 2018
GCS December 2018
Gender change with Israel Ministry of Interior January 2019
BA July 2020

Offline Jane.Shannon

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 126
  • Reputation: +2/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2020, 06:31:51 pm »
Thank you so much for posting this.  I am very interested in PPV, and it makes me happy to see it still being preformed at UI.  I wish it was being preformed at University of Washington too.  Please keep posting about your recovery.  I hope you are feeling better in body and spirit very quickly.
July 2020: Full Time
Aug 2019: Started HRT
Dec 2019: Hair Feminization Surgery

Offline Kara Lee

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 126
  • Reputation: +31/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2020, 06:55:22 pm »
Well, It's now 13 days after my surgery. My how time flies. Every day I have a bit more energy. My swelling has decreased a bit helping me get around. I have never felt pain from my dilating, thankfully, instead it's just very tight. I'm hoping that improves as the swelling continues decreasing. I'm sure the fact that peritoneal tissue lines my whole vagina helps with how dilating feels having the transition to other tissue only at the opening. My friend that has been staying with me to help with things is amazed at how fast I appear to be healing (yay me!). She has helped me stop worrying about lots of little isssues, like fatty tissue sloughing off and me worrying to much about the swelling. I've never been injured or had any previous swelling so have no experience with the body healing from this type.

Oh, sorry about the misspelling in the title. The forums don't seem to let me fix it.

Offline Kara Lee

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 126
  • Reputation: +31/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2020, 03:09:37 pm »
Just had a quick checkup with Dr Roth. He wanted to see if there was any issue with some tissue that sloughed off several days ago. He didn't have quite enough penile tissue to finish my left inner labia so used a bit of extra peritoneal tissue there. Thats where this occured. He said it was just extra fatty tissue that came off exposing more of the peritoneal tissue. My body is healing that area very well and he said we don't need to do anything extra. There is a bit of granulation going on but it is pretty minor.

Overall my healing is going better than expected for so soon after surgery :). Still not a lot of energy. The office visit took it all out of me and I napped a while when we got home. I feel a bit better each day. The swelling is still limiting my mobility some but I can feel improvements :). I'm glad to me off the heavier pain meds and my bowels are trying to adjust to that, woohoo, lol.

Oh, and random nerves firing off is quite an experience, hehe. They haven't been painful, but can be intense enough to get me to jump. I've had good sensation overall right from recovery. 5 days after surgery the doctor removed the dressings and was touching areas and we both were surprised with how little my nerves shocked. He touched my clit and I about hit the ceiling because the touch was crazy sensitive. It's slowly settling down based on my gentle contacts when washing so I'm expecting no problems when I'm cleared and brave enough to experiment some. (I'm going to be afraid of damaging something for a while)

Offline josie76

  • Family
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,386
  • Reputation: +21/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • Something beautiful emerges from a dark pool
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2020, 12:32:58 pm »
Im glad you are doing well.
Swelling is the biggest issue I had. In fact it was only the swelling and how quickly my body attacked the dissolve stitches that led to any granulation issues at all. I had some skin that pulled apart where it had been stitched together. This made for areas that had to go through granulation phases to heal into new skin.
The most pain I had recovering in the hospital was actually my abdominal muscles. Just sitting up in the bed was painful and hard to do. It was just the 5 places the robot was put through my abdomen. I didn't have an epidural. They have me a self applied morphine but I didn't use it after the first night there.


Keep up your dilation and keep doing it once per day for the first year. I had personal issues happening and missed a lot of times I should have done it. There was a stretch where I missed it for 3 weeks straight. In that time my deeper peritoneal tissue had not yet epthilized. Without displaying some of it healed together and I did loose some depth. At this point, now a year later almost, I believe I am close to fully epthilized so it should be a big issue going forward. However I am working at gaining a bit of depth back with the dilators.
The only sore area I sometimes still have is where the outer skin meets the peritoneal lining tissue. I think Dr. Gallagher did a bit there when she did laboaplasty on me last March. If I don't keep up my dilation that area seems like it wants to contract and then it gets sore dilating with the bigger ones.
On the plus side, since a couple of months after surgery I have not needed to use any lube to dialate. The peritoneal lining makes just enough moisture to be able to do it. It also acts like a natal vaginal lining as it is sort of self cleaning that way.
04/26/2018 bi-lateral orchiectomy
09/11/2019 PPV at IU Health (DaVinci robot laparoscopic Davydov with modified Chonburi Flap) w/ Dr. Gallagher, Dr. Koch, Dr. Roth assisting urology
03/02/2020 revision labiaplasty at IU Health w/ Dr. Gallagher

A lifetime of depression and repressed emotions is nothing more than existence.
I for one want to live now, not just exist!

Offline AngelaJade

  • **
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 31
  • Reputation: +2/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2020, 01:14:39 am »
Great news and thank you for sharing. I'm very happy to hear that it is going well for you.  It is always helpful to hear from others who have had the surgery.
I hope you continue to have a good recovery and that the 'uncomfortable' feeling goes away soon.

Myself, I'm booked in on the 9th November here in Australia for PPV surgery. It appears that I'll be the second woman to have a 'primary' robotic PPV done in Australia. Counting down the days with 61 to go :)

One question I have is about how much lubrication may be generated and whether it is more than what a cis-woman has on a daily basis. I know is is a YMMV, but I'm hoping it's not too much like the colon graft can be.

I'm mostly interested in this technique becasue of the self-cleaning properties of the mucosal tissue which I understand will undergo some form of epithelium and become near-identical to cis vaginal tissue.


Nov 2017 - Diagnosed with GD
Jan 2018 - Commenced HRT (e-patches & CPA)
Dec 2018 - Legally changed name & Gender
Mar 2019 - Openly living as a woman.
Nov 2020 - GCS (PPV)



Offline Allie Jayne

  • *
  • Posts: 1,780
  • Reputation: +17/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2020, 02:44:50 am »
Great news and thank you for sharing. I'm very happy to hear that it is going well for you.  It is always helpful to hear from others who have had the surgery.
I hope you continue to have a good recovery and that the 'uncomfortable' feeling goes away soon.

Myself, I'm booked in on the 9th November here in Australia for PPV surgery. It appears that I'll be the second woman to have a 'primary' robotic PPV done in Australia. Counting down the days with 61 to go :)

One question I have is about how much lubrication may be generated and whether it is more than what a cis-woman has on a daily basis. I know is is a YMMV, but I'm hoping it's not too much like the colon graft can be.

I'm mostly interested in this technique becasue of the self-cleaning properties of the mucosal tissue which I understand will undergo some form of epithelium and become near-identical to cis vaginal tissue.

AngelaJade, would you mind saying which surgeon in Australia is offering PPTV, and which city. I am in Victoria and have Labiaplasty booked with Andrew Ives, but I and some others would be interested in knowing who in Australia is offering PPTV!

Hugs,

Allie

Offline AngelaJade

  • **
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 31
  • Reputation: +2/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2020, 07:12:15 am »
Hi Allie Jayne

Dr Kieran Hart, who is in Canberra has just started doing primary PPV surgeries.

He is a urologist and therefore well qualified to use robotic surgery and operate in the region. 

Cheers
Angela

Nov 2017 - Diagnosed with GD
Jan 2018 - Commenced HRT (e-patches & CPA)
Dec 2018 - Legally changed name & Gender
Mar 2019 - Openly living as a woman.
Nov 2020 - GCS (PPV)



Offline Allie Jayne

  • *
  • Posts: 1,780
  • Reputation: +17/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2020, 07:28:30 am »
Hi Allie Jayne

Dr Kieran Hart, who is in Canberra has just started doing primary PPV surgeries.

He is a urologist and therefore well qualified to use robotic surgery and operate in the region. 

Cheers
Angela

Thank you Angela! I so hope you are absolutely thrilled with the outcome of your op! I didn't think this was an option in Australia, but if I'm not satisfied with my labiaplasty I now have a local option for revision! Please review your experiences when you are done!

Hugs,

Allie

Offline AngelaJade

  • **
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 31
  • Reputation: +2/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2020, 07:34:10 am »
Thanks. I'll try and post something when I'm able to sit up enough to to hold my iPad and type. I might start a blog post here

Dr Hart has been doing revisions for a little while and also done many operations on the prostrate which is somehow similar. He has also done surgeries on MRKH syndrome women and women without mullarian ducts etc.

Note that the cost of surgery is more expensive.

Ang

61 days and counting...

Nov 2017 - Diagnosed with GD
Jan 2018 - Commenced HRT (e-patches & CPA)
Dec 2018 - Legally changed name & Gender
Mar 2019 - Openly living as a woman.
Nov 2020 - GCS (PPV)



Offline josie76

  • Family
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,386
  • Reputation: +21/-0
  • Gender: Female
  • Something beautiful emerges from a dark pool
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2020, 09:06:51 am »
Great news and thank you for sharing. I'm very happy to hear that it is going well for you.  It is always helpful to hear from others who have had the surgery.
I hope you continue to have a good recovery and that the 'uncomfortable' feeling goes away soon.

Myself, I'm booked in on the 9th November here in Australia for PPV surgery. It appears that I'll be the second woman to have a 'primary' robotic PPV done in Australia. Counting down the days with 61 to go :)

One question I have is about how much lubrication may be generated and whether it is more than what a cis-woman has on a daily basis. I know is is a YMMV, but I'm hoping it's not too much like the colon graft can be.

I'm mostly interested in this technique becasue of the self-cleaning properties of the mucosal tissue which I understand will undergo some form of epithelium and become near-identical to cis vaginal tissue.

At first you should expect a lot of fluid discharge after surgery. Obviously there is the common issue of wound dissonance where skin is stitched together. However there will be some other fluid as well. Enough you will want to wear maxipads during the day. Right after surgery it's just easiest to fold up a chuck and wear at night. As each week passes this will change. You may still get some bleeding when dialating but otherwise mostly not blood colored. As the months pass it decreases. Also the lining will epthilized and stop trying to self seal. Keep dialating though. The deepest part takes the longest to epthilize fully. At about a year the deepest part won't try to self heal closed anymore. Discharge is very minimal. I do not wear pads or liners during the day anymore unless it's right after dialating. For me I still have some tissue at the point the skin meets the peritoneum that still contracts without dialating. Then it takes a few sessions to open it back up again during which I get a tiny amount of blood. It seems to be the skin at the opening that is doing this. I do use a liner at night but mainly because I have noticed just a bit more of an incontinence issue than I had before. I tend to wake up a couple of times per night to pee so when I'm holding it in my sleep I may let a bit out. The liner just keeps me dry between waking up
04/26/2018 bi-lateral orchiectomy
09/11/2019 PPV at IU Health (DaVinci robot laparoscopic Davydov with modified Chonburi Flap) w/ Dr. Gallagher, Dr. Koch, Dr. Roth assisting urology
03/02/2020 revision labiaplasty at IU Health w/ Dr. Gallagher

A lifetime of depression and repressed emotions is nothing more than existence.
I for one want to live now, not just exist!

Offline Kara Lee

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 126
  • Reputation: +31/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2020, 02:42:02 pm »
It's me again :).  Today is 3 weeks post op, woohoo. I still have more energy each day and the swelling is still slowly going down. My twice daily dilations are going well. There has never been pain from doing so. My dilator goes in slowly but surely. I'm using plenty of lube so I'm unsure just how much is my own. I'm still using pads full time but there is just a minor pinkish discharge. 

I'm still shocked that there was never any bruising at the surgery site but there was 2 areas of bruising from the far left and far right incisions into my abdomin for 2 of the 5 robotic entry points. My tummy felt the most aches the first week out of surgery from those 5 entry points, the gas inflating my tummy and the area where the tissue was taken from. My shoulders ached as well and I learned that was from the gas used to inflate my belly. Apparently that gas can migrate and can cause aches elsewhere.

AngelaJade, I also like the idea of it being self cleaning and lubricating, and it should have a bit more stretch than penile inversion. Not that I am planning for anything large, hehe.

A question. Has anyone else felt after surgery, at times, like the whole penis is folded up and under pressure under their clit? It feels like I'm wearing a very tight undergarment holding everything in tightly. Thankfully this feeling only sometimes happens when I first stand up and then goes away in a few minutes. I was just curious if anyone else has had this feeling.


Offline KatieP

  • *
  • Posts: 595
  • Reputation: +8/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2020, 03:31:37 pm »
It's me again :)

A question. Has anyone else felt after surgery, at times, like the whole penis is folded up and under pressure under their clit? It feels like I'm wearing a very tight undergarment holding everything in tightly. Thankfully this feeling only sometimes happens when I first stand up and then goes away in a few minutes. I was just curious if anyone else has had this feeling.

TOTALLY!!! It was SOOOO weird. My comment to my doctor was: I have never been so aware of my penis as I have been since it was removed...

I am hoping I get used to it, and the feelings change or go away. I didn't much like having that thing down there, and still don't much like FEELING like it is down there...

Katie

Offline AngelaJade

  • **
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 31
  • Reputation: +2/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2020, 06:10:37 am »
Thanks Josie for your informative reply. Makes me feel a lot better.

Thanks Kara Lee for informing us of your progress. It's good to keep hearing from people actually going through it.
I hope to be able to do the same come November.

One thing I should say, is that the operation is on my 51st Birthday. Fantastic birthday present, one never to be forgotten. 

Always look on the bright side and towards the amazing benefits that this will bring.  What I'm focusing on is being able to finally wear a bikini at the beach and being comfortable doing it. That's what's going to keep me focused through everything.

Angie

Nov 2017 - Diagnosed with GD
Jan 2018 - Commenced HRT (e-patches & CPA)
Dec 2018 - Legally changed name & Gender
Mar 2019 - Openly living as a woman.
Nov 2020 - GCS (PPV)



Offline Kara Lee

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 126
  • Reputation: +31/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2020, 12:42:56 pm »
AngelaJade, I'm 52, will be 53 in about 3 weeks.  This was an early birthday present for me :).

Today makes 4 weeks postop for me and I'm still seeing daily improvements in my energy levels and the decrease in swelling.  Two days afo was my first drive to get me some lunch and that was all I could handle.  Driving while still needing the donut to sit on is tough, but at least I know I can make one short trip a day if I need to (short is less than 5 miles round trip.) 

This past weekend I finally started on the second smallest dilator and that is going smoothly, well, except when I used this <poor> lubrication that felt half congealed.  I have one tight spot about an inch in that is an issue when I first use the smallest one but when I switch to the next larger it isn't as bad.  Yay for listening to the doctor about moving up in size and not trying to go straight for the second one right away.  There is a tiny bit of blood but between the lube and the fluid the peritoneal tissue makes it seems like a lot more.  The only time it hurts when I dilate is when I push to hard to make sure it is in all the way.  Thankfully I have no internal stitching because my whole vagina is lined with the peritoneal tissue and no scrotal or penile skin, bonus points for more tissue to make its own lubrication.

Next Tuesday I have another followup appointment with Dr Roth and will do my best to ask if they are ready for new patients to contact them, and if so how they can do so.  I know they have been going through a slow time with covid and Dr Gallagher leaving at the end of last year. Next Wednesday will likely be my last update in this section directly relating to my post surgical info and what he tells me about new patients.

Offline Nozomi

  • Neighbor
  • ***
  • Posts: 57
  • Reputation: +1/-0
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2020, 12:07:19 am »
Nozomi, Yes, ...

Thank you for responding to my reply #21 of Laparoscopic peritoneal pull-through vaginoplasty- testimonials, anyone?
I came to this forum by following the link you posted.
At the present I have only the following questions, but as I will have other questions to you, I hope that you continue this forum.

1. As for PPV, my MTF friend told that the peritoneal area is thin, so strong dilation is not possible.
Should dilation be softly in the very early stage? How did you dilate in the very early stage and next duration?

2. A Google search for "Dilating 101 part 2" AND Mozaic" will find Dr. Heidi Wittenberg's "101 Part 2 Extensions".
Is your dilation similar to "Dilating 101 part 2 (video)”?
If there is differences, could you indicate them?

3. I told her that the peritoneal tissues become almost indistinguishable from natal vaginal lining tissues after 6 month to a year.
What would you answer to her underlined words?

I am much happier if you answer them though I asked another person the similar questions an hour ago.

Offline Kara Lee

  • Friend
  • ****
  • Posts: 126
  • Reputation: +31/-0
  • Gender: Female
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2020, 02:15:29 am »

"1. As for PPV, my MTF friend told that the peritoneal area is thin, so strong dilation is not possible.
Should dilation be softly in the very early stage? How did you dilate in the very early stage and next duration?

2. A Google search for "Dilating 101 part 2" AND Mozaic" will find Dr. Heidi Wittenberg's "101 Part 2 Extensions".
Is your dilation similar to "Dilating 101 part 2 (video)”?
If there is differences, could you indicate them?"

      * To answer both #1 and #2, My dilation is pretty much the same as in the video you mentioned, right from my first time. I am gentle and patient with inserting because I don't want to damage anything (peritoneal lining, rectum, urethra, prostate, etc.). I'll be doing it the same way forever. I'm more worried about me screwing things up than anything else.


"3. I told her that the peritoneal tissues become almost indistinguishable from natal vaginal lining tissues after 6 month to a year."

       * I have no knowledge of what the peritoneal tissue will be like in the future.  I don't expect it to match natal lining because of their different origins but, like I mentioned, I really don't know for sure.

Offline Nozomi

  • Neighbor
  • ***
  • Posts: 57
  • Reputation: +1/-0
Re: Recent perionteal vaginoplasty in Indianapolis, In
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2020, 05:18:59 pm »
To answer both #1 and #2, My dilation is pretty much the same as in the video you mentioned, right from my first time. I am gentle and patient with inserting because I don't want to damage anything (peritoneal lining, rectum, urethra, prostate, etc.). I'll be doing it the same way forever. I'm more worried about me screwing things up than anything else.

3. I have no knowledge of what the peritoneal tissue will be like in the future.  I don't expect it to match natal lining because of their different origins but, like I mentioned, I really don't know for sure.

Thank you very much for your reply.
It's enough.

"the peritoneal tissues become almost indistinguishable from natal vaginal lining tissues after 6 month to a year." is from "Some later studies following patients of peritoneal vaginoplasty showed that the peritoneal tissues become almost indistinguishable from natal vaginal lining tissues after 6 month to a year.” in the reply #4 of the forum “Laparoscopic peritoneal pull-through vaginoplasty- testimonials, anyone?”
I guess the source paper is Dr. Mhatre's paper of ”New laparoscopic peritoneal pull-through vaginoplasty technique”.

I hope you are doing well and
hope that you continue this forum after tomorrow.

Thanks

Tags: