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Offline Dorit

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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2020, 01:38:54 am »
It clearly is a fairly contentious topic! I think those who have had BA are always going to argue it’s the right thing to do whilst those of us who haven’t will argue it should be the next step after giving HRT at least 3 years.
If I were you I would ask myself 2 questions:
1. Have I given HRT a proper chance to do its thing?
2 . What is my motivation for wanting (much) bigger boobs? - my view is big boobs are a masculine view of what’s the right look
3. Are you ok with more surgery in 10 years time?

I find it quite demeaning when people suggest that BA bags to be part of transition - ifs most certainly just an optional path that many of us do not take

The best news is it’s ur body so u get to decide, the bad news is it’s not an easy call as is the case for any and all surgery


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Pammie dear, I don't think any of the posts here is suggesting what they did is the right thing for Rachel or for everyone else.  We are all sharing our varied experiences and understandings about what was the right thing for us inorder to help Rachel decide what is right for her.  The same applies to you, you did what is right for you!  I hope we can even rejoice in the variety of life experiences amongst us, it does not have to be seen as "contentious." :)
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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2020, 11:04:27 am »
I'm pretty sure for most especially beyond the usual growing period for humans of between 0-21 years, especially when flipping sexes, most breast growth is sub par at best.
And I'm not sure it's all a masculine thing, I know of many natal women who where disappointed with there breasts size. In actual fact breast augmentation was never specifically developed for trans girls.
It's was developed long before the trans experience was ever well known.



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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2020, 01:09:49 pm »
I'm pretty sure for most especially beyond the usual growing period for humans of between 0-21 years, especially when flipping sexes, most breast growth is sub par at best.
And I'm not sure it's all a masculine thing, I know of many natal women who where disappointed with there breasts size. In actual fact breast augmentation was never specifically developed for trans girls.
It's was developed long before the trans experience was ever well known.
Well, I don’t think i’m aware of any science around your views but we can all have our own views.
I’m just conscious of setting expectations that BA is a must - for me surgery shouldn’t be the first choice in optional areas (I do specifically exclude bottom surgery which in my world is hardly optional but is essential). Still, it’s still just about a free world so people can make their own choices


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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2020, 02:58:07 pm »
No science, no research what so ever, but I would dare say 99% of all breast surgeries ever done have been on genetic females, and also elective by the recipient.
The percentage may change now as it is now easier for us to exist.
I don't understand how it's a masculine want to have boobs, most that ever chose to have this surgery where female.

Regardless of that aspect of things I highly agree that wee must give atleast 3 years before going for this surgery.
Having growth on top of the implant can be a complication and degrade the aesthetics of the surgery and it initial purpose.
Hindsight is unfortunately useless, but for me after more than 4 years on hormones I had nothing more than bee stings 😭



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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2020, 03:12:03 pm »
No science, no research what so ever, but I would dare say 99% of all breast surgeries ever done have been on genetic females, and also elective by the recipient.
The percentage may change now as it is now easier for us to exist.
I don't understand how it's a masculine want to have boobs, most that ever chose to have this surgery where female.

Regardless of that aspect of things I highly agree that wee must give atleast 3 years before going for this surgery.
Having growth on top of the implant can be a complication and degrade the aesthetics of the surgery and it initial purpose.
Hindsight is unfortunately useless, but for me after more than 4 years on hormones I had nothing more than bee stings 😭

More cons:

General anesthesia is always a risk.
External scars.
Internal scar tissue that forms over time.
The implants can change shape over time.

A big plus:

If you have nothing but bee stings, go for it, girl!

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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2020, 05:27:33 pm »
No science, no research what so ever, but I would dare say 99% of all breast surgeries ever done have been on genetic females, and also elective by the recipient.
The percentage may change now as it is now easier for us to exist.
I don't understand how it's a masculine want to have boobs, most that ever chose to have this surgery where female.

Regardless of that aspect of things I highly agree that wee must give atleast 3 years before going for this surgery.
Having growth on top of the implant can be a complication and degrade the aesthetics of the surgery and it initial purpose.
Hindsight is unfortunately useless, but for me after more than 4 years on hormones I had nothing more than bee stings
We agree on some things but you are disingenuous both about percentages - you seemed to be quoting facts but really they were uninformed opinions (that’s ok but you need to make clear they are not actual facts) and the masculine bit was not about wanting to have boobs but that boobs need to be big  - anyway, life is too short to argue! As always, YMMV and we’re all individuals


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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2020, 05:43:36 pm »
What I'm saying is certainly not fact, as advised no science or research in anyway backs the statement.
Just a wild guess.
The problem was never big boobs, but simply bigger boobs, alot of us end up with unsatisfactory growth.
Alot of XX females also experience this issue.
Of course it is indoctrinated into our minds what we should big full breasts even though there is no actual standard.
It's the same as when we become women, so many are not happy with just being women, they want to be beautiful women.
It's all fakes standards that we all feel we need to live up to.

Me personally I would have been happy if I got a handful, it's just didn't happen.
Out of the 3 sizes I tried in consultation 280cc was the smallest, and I was worried about them being too big, I told the doctor I wanted them to proportionate to my size but airing on the smaller size, I wanted him to here what I wanted and make the decision on them because they cannot be judged perfectly outside the body. I wanted his experience to work out what I wanted.
For me now, after nearly 2 months post opp they are really perfect for me and I can sleep back on my side like I always did.
I do wish they had grown though, and I wish I could say I was all natural.
But I feel I forfeited the ability to say that anyway when I begun down this path.



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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2020, 06:30:50 pm »
You were wise to go with the smallest of the three sizes. Leading with one's breasts can be irritating.

I come from a family of small-breasted women. One of my three sisters had a mastectomy. She had that removed breast rebuilt and the other breast enhanced. Now, when we go into a restaurant, she'll doff her jacket to reveal her low cut top, no matter how cold it is outside. She's always needed abundant attention from strangers and now she has a shortcut. Meanwhile, while she's posing, I'm visiting with my other sisters. 

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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2020, 04:34:28 pm »
Hi Rachel, My Target bra is an Auden 38D. I think I need a DD and the 38 is on the 1st of three hoops. I measure 36 under the breasts and 43 over the breasts. I have 550 cc mentor partially under the muscle. I am 169 pounds and 6'1".

I had the BA in 2017 but was supposed to have it in 2016 with my GCS but there were complications. I had been on hormones for 4.5 year and had an a cup.

The further you are away from puberty the lower your growth hormone levels. HGH and hormones help to form the body.

If you are active larger boobies will need support with a proper bra. I like Anita. If you invasion large breasts 500 cc on a larger frame may not be ideal. You may want to get some rice , put it in a bag (s) and get a larger bra and try wearing it for a little while. You really only get one chance and going from relatively nothing to larger with a BA. The BA will look big at first but in a little time it may feel a bit small. Mentor makes up to 800cc for reference.

I like my 550 cc mentor but would have gone up to 700 to 800 had I have a second chance when I had the BA. I lost 53 pounds and am now 38 under the boob so it is more appropriate now. If I had 800 cc I would be really big, perhaps a little too big. I am sure I would be fine but just some thoughts to consider.

Rachel





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Re: Sometimes you confuse me BA
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2020, 12:34:50 pm »
The main reason people suggest waiting a few years before Breast Augmentation is that you may either get it naturally, or you'll get a little extra breast tissue to help make the breast augmentation appear a bit more natural.  I'd say, if you found a surgeon that you trust and they say that you can get the results you want now (and you're not opposed to the idea of implants)... then go for it.  The worst thing that can happen by getting the breast augmentation early in transition is that you run the risk of them getting even bigger later on.  The surgeon should be able to tell you all the ins and outs of it to your satisfaction.  It's not much different than an 18 year old getting implants and then getting pregnancy breast growth. The implants just push your breast tissue forward, having them won't stop you from developing more. 
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