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Ribcage and upper body
« on: November 22, 2020, 10:28:02 am »
After being on medically supervised mtf HRT, have you noticed any reduction in upper body measurements? That is,

1). Collar size
2). Band size, the measurement right under the breasts
3). Distance all around, from where the nipples are

Do you attribute that loss to muscle loss and/or purposeful weight loss?  It seems that some of all of the above measurements can go down even while your breast volume can increase.

If one loses 10-15 pounds, fat can be reduced everywhere.  But with the weight and body size loss, if the breast volume increases then it makes sense that the HRT is likely causing that.

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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2020, 11:36:02 am »
After being on medically supervised mtf HRT, have you noticed any reduction in upper body measurements? That is,

1). Collar size
2). Band size, the measurement right under the breasts
3). Distance all around, from where the nipples are

Do you attribute that loss to muscle loss and/or purposeful weight loss?  It seems that some of all of the above measurements can go down even while your breast volume can increase.

If one loses 10-15 pounds, fat can be reduced everywhere.  But with the weight and body size loss, if the breast volume increases then it makes sense that the HRT is likely causing that.

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I agree re breast volume but I don’t think band side reduction is easy as rib cage is a massive arbiter of that. I’ve lost 33% of my weight in the last 4 years but I think my upper body (and band size) couldn’t get any lower (36” now) even if I lost more weight (which im definitely not going to do) - of course my kettlebell exercises have not helped and I have put on weight on my arms and shoulders and tummy


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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2020, 08:10:19 pm »
Same here. In my previous life, my chest measured over 50 inches. Being over weight helped make that number so large.

HRT and serious dieting helped me lose over 120 pounds and my chest went down to a 39 inches under the bust. I did lose a lot of chest fat, but most of the reduction in my chest is muscle loss.




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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 04:25:54 am »
Like Pammie and Rakel, I lost a lot of weight through dieting at the same time I started HRT (60 lbs).  And my underbust measurement decreased from 40” to 36”. I attribute the reduction in band size almost entirely to weight loss. I think it would be really hard for my underbust measurement to shrink further. When naked, my rib cage is now very apparent on my body shape and is meaningfully larger than my waist.

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After being on medically supervised mtf HRT, have you noticed any reduction in upper body measurements? That is,

1). Collar size
2). Band size, the measurement right under the breasts
3). Distance all around, from where the nipples are

Do you attribute that loss to muscle loss and/or purposeful weight loss?  It seems that some of all of the above measurements can go down even while your breast volume can increase.

If one loses 10-15 pounds, fat can be reduced everywhere.  But with the weight and body size loss, if the breast volume increases then it makes sense that the HRT is likely causing that.

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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2020, 10:23:52 am »
Muscle loss has accounted for all my reductions in upper body measurements.. Including neck (which is still too large IMHO!)...  But I went from a 42" chest to a 36" underbust.. and my shoulders feminised a little with the loss of the shoulder muscles..  I used to think my shoulders would never be okay.. but they are just on the large size of normal for a woman of my build now...

I think the one thing that will never change is the 'roundness' of the ribcage.. viewed from the side..
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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2020, 12:56:41 pm »
I think the one thing that will never change is the 'roundness' of the ribcage.. viewed from the side..

Exactly! It has been bugging me that something still isn't quite right anatomically, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it. I think this is it.

Sadly, I think there is nothing that can be done to address this.

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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2020, 01:51:12 pm »
I have gained about 7-8 pounds since changing my hormones 3+ years ago.

My neck is smaller, my shoulders are smaller, band size smaller, waist smaller, thighs smaller, arms smaller,  so where did it all go?  Especially if my weight has gone up?  Mostly my butt, and breasts, which is um, fabu!

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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2020, 02:19:06 pm »
I say weight loss and some muscle bulk.  I was not overweight by any means when I started, and I ended up losing about 4" on my band size.  I went from a 38" band, to a 34" band in the same bra line over the last 5+ years.  Same goes for collar, but to a lesser extent.  I attribute it to just less muscle bulk.
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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2020, 02:20:24 pm »
I have gained about 7-8 pounds since changing my hormones 3+ years ago.

My neck is smaller, my shoulders are smaller, band size smaller, waist smaller, thighs smaller, arms smaller,  so where did it all go?  Especially if my weight has gone up?  Mostly my butt, and breasts, which is um, fabu!

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Seems to have worked for you too.

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Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2020, 11:39:16 am »
I have heard that some trans-women have actually had ribs removed.
Is this folklore or has this really happened? Seems like it would be rare.
Would it really give a more feminine appearance, if done?


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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2020, 12:18:16 pm »
I have heard that some trans-women have actually had ribs removed.
Is this folklore or has this really happened? Seems like it would be rare.
Would it really give a more feminine appearance, if done?


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It would not surprise me but it’s not something I’d ever contemplate personally !


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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2020, 12:29:36 pm »
I had 6 ribs removed (three lower front ribs and 3 lower rear ribs) from my rib cage.  It made my rib cage smaller.  Next I want to get liposuction and body sculpting to my abs sides and lower back to make my waist smaller.



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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2020, 04:26:58 pm »
I have heard that some trans-women have actually had ribs removed.
Is this folklore or has this really happened? Seems like it would be rare.
Would it really give a more feminine appearance, if done?


Chrissy

As much as I hate my ribcage, there’s no way I’d do anything about it. Keep in mind: the ribs play a very important role protecting essential organs! No way I’d want to give that up.

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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2020, 11:47:04 pm »
I still weigh the same as I did pre-HRT, and the only thing as far as chest measurements that has changed is that I got boobs.

Not all of us have the same genetics or metabolism. I doubt my build will ever change, other than getting skinnier.
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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2020, 11:54:49 pm »
I don't think hormones would affect your ribcage or upper-body, except for the shoulder muscles might diminish! x.

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Re: Ribcage and upper body
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2020, 03:40:40 am »
I don't think hormones would affect your ribcage or upper-body, except for the shoulder muscles might diminish! x.
Post puberty (in my case 40+ years post) starting HRT cannot change bone structures - it can and does impact muscle mass and fat distributions of course.


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« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2020, 06:09:19 pm »
Thanks for sharing out on this.

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