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Cremasteric muscle
« on: October 05, 2020, 09:17:23 am »
Was your cremasteric muscle removed during your orchi?  I would be interested in having them left in.
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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2020, 08:56:32 pm »
Not familiar with that muscle.  Could you explain what it is and does and where it is located?  I had my prostate removed and then later and orchi, so, maybe I do not have one.
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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2020, 09:09:21 pm »
The cremasteric muscle surrounds the teste and spermatic cord. Each teste has it's own cremasteric muscle. The purpose is to elevate the teste when the inner thigh is stimulated. It is thought that this helps regulate the testes temperature to keep sperm viable. Think of the Seinfeld episode about shrinkage:D   You get the idea.  :-X

When an orchiectomey is performed, most of the sperm cord is also removed, but each surgeon is going to cut where they have been trained to cut. This is a good question to ask your surgeon when consulting for this procedure.





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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2020, 09:13:40 pm »
So Rakel, is it good or bad if it is cut during an orchi?  Does it affect erections?
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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 05:44:39 am »
Well, to remove the testes, the cord has to be cut somewhere. Where the cord is cut and how this effects subsequent sexual function, I really do not know.

Maybe someone who has had an orchiectomey can answer this.





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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 06:11:41 am »
Was your cremasteric muscle removed during your orchi?

I don't think so, but I'm not sure.

 
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I would be interested in having them left in.

The cremaster raises the testes; you won't have testes after the orchi. What is the perceived benefit?
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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2020, 08:37:24 am »
Thanks for the response.  My uneducated thought was this muscle contracts the testicle causing orgasm.  I just watched a youtube video of the process and this partivular one did not seem very precise.

I had some follow up questions.
1. Did you have to take testosterone supplements after your orchi?  Or, was there any hormonal imbalance?
2. Was there any change in your breast size?
3. What was the pain recovery time frame?
4. Can any plastic surgeon do this or is it important to have an  experienced specialist?  I am willing to travel but prefer not.  Do you recommend any specific surgeons?
5. Did your sexuality become stronger, weaker, or remain about the same?  Is there another adjective you would use to describe your pre-post orchi  experience?
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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2020, 02:04:04 pm »
Amy,

I had my orchiectomy in 2018.

1.  So far I have not needed any testosterone help (low dose) for anything.  IU am also 73. So that is also a factor for me.
2.  I did not notice any change in breast size.  I was on spironolactone prior, so my testosterone levels were low before and after the surgery.
3.  Since I had this with another more major procedure down there, myu pain lasted a couple of weeks.  I spent the night in the hospital and then a day or two more resting in my bed at home, and then I got up and did my normal things and just avoided any exertions that may affect that surgical area.
4.  I believe that you want a urologist because they are the specialists in that area.  However, other specialties can also perform that successfully.
5.  My sexual drive remained the same at my older age level.  I had this operation done as an add on to the other surgery.  It benefitted in in several ways.  It was my true first Gender Affirming Surgery (GAS).  It stopped the need for any testosterone blocker, and I stayed on my then current level of estradiol prescription.  I can't really say if my feminization really took off after that.

In the end, I am very glad I had it done at that time.

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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2020, 06:46:41 am »
Thanks Allie.  As an aside the struggles you have mentioned with your family I can identify with, except in my case its my  Father who has been gone years now.
I have thought about this seriously enough to start thinking about actual dates.  But, one of my concerns is finding a partner before doing this.  Am I the only one that has this problem?  Since a steady is unlikely, I guess the whole thing is neither here nor there.  Then, I believe you have to have a psychologist's ok before hand so this further ramps up the difficulty index.  I guess I do know a clinic that could refer me.  I wonder if it will tame my sexuality...
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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2020, 01:33:21 pm »
Amy,

I guess that I do not understand your need to find a partner before getting an orchiectomy?  If you mean to procreate, than you can also consider having some sperm saved at a sperm bank for possible future use with a cis woman to hopefully carry your offspring.  I have read before of MtF trans women doing this before an orchiectomy and also before full bottom surgery.  Planning for the future.

Regarding the psych's letter(s):  That depends on where you live, what insurance you have and what they require.  I think that it is fair to say that here in the USA one or more letters may be required.  Another option would be to find a good LGBTQ+ clinic and ask them what their experiences have been regarding letters for an orchiectomy.  Here we can also talk with Planned Parenthood where they work on the informed consent model for a lot of trans services.  I used Lyon-Martin clinic in San Francisco for my trans health and transitioning support.  They are fantastic and offer lite medical exams, counseling and therapy services to our community.  I got my letters for my BA and FFS from them for my Medicare coverage.  They told me that I only needed one letter for FFS and 2 letters for GCS.  It does vary depending on where you live, what insurance you have and what the actual doctor requires.

Good luck in your journey.

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Re: Cremasteric muscle
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2020, 05:53:34 am »
I am not looking to have children but to have some steadying support in going through with this decision. 
Will look into letter requirements.
Thanx Allie.
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