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Offline Ely-chan

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About MTF transition.
I have seen some people opt for hormone replacement and surgery, others just for hormones. My question is if anyone has had only surgery (FFS & BA) and How did it go? Are you satisfied with the result? How old was you when did it?

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Re: transition with FFS and BA, not hormones or HRT. It is a good idea?
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2021, 05:23:38 pm »
I did HRT then 2 years later BA, and then 4 months later FFS. They say to wait from 2-5 years after starting hormones before having a BA. I waited about 2 1/2 years with little growth. I may have had minor facial changes but nothing I could identify. The reason to wait is to see what hormones do to your body. Everyone reacts differently to hormones. I agree with the minimum wait times as a minimum.

I can now see some hangers in my body, hips and butt, which I like.

I recommend waiting and then deciding. I know my breasts are still growing because I have growth pains still, below the nipple. Due to my age I do not expect much significant growth.

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Re: transition with FFS and BA, not hormones or HRT. It is a good idea?
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2021, 07:37:18 pm »
I started with HRT then went on to the surgeries. I have no experience with surgery without hormones.

However, I have a friend who had a BA without hormones. She is a body builder who just did not like what HRT did to her muscular strength. She is of an ethnic heritage that is known for little face and body hair, but she keeps on weight training. That is her thing and good for her.

She is in her early 60's and looks like she is a 40 year old female body builder. It works for her, but each of us must decide what is important for ourselves.




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Re: transition with FFS and BA, not hormones or HRT. It is a good idea?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2021, 08:21:00 pm »
for what its worth even after 2 years I don't have the perfect breasts I wanted (not sure what they even are) but I do understand like any female you get what you get. I currently don't intend to do anything about it until that tingly sensation stops if at all

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Re: transition with FFS and BA, not hormones or HRT. It is a good idea?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2021, 08:25:01 pm »
I am presenting as female full time without surgeries or HRT.
I pass pretty well as I have a petite hourglass figure and can fill a 32A bra without breast forms.

Just like your body builder friend I have little body hair and concerns about muscular strength.
I do a lot of gardening and it takes a lot of work to maintain everything. 
The tons of flowers I get every season makes everyone in the neighborhood happy.
Last year it started with the crocuses and something was in bloom until the final camellia bloom.

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Re: transition with FFS and BA, not hormones or HRT. It is a good idea?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2021, 02:01:46 am »
Hi

About MTF transition.
I have seen some people opt for hormone replacement and surgery, others just for hormones. My question is if anyone has had only surgery (FFS & BA) and How did it go? Are you satisfied with the result? How old was you when did it?

thanks for reading
I do remember discussing BA with my gender specialist doctor and she told me that doctors would normally not do BA surgery where there is not already some breast form though I forget the explanation as to why not but there were valid reasons. That said, if you go private im sure there will be surgeons who will do it even if there are risks.
The thing for me about HRT is about the mental changes not purely about boob growth (though that was important to me too) and about the msny other changes like fat redistribution and skin feeling so much softer and body hair changing (I had lots of laser treatment but was never hirsute anyway).
If you have gender dysphoria you might well find you need HRT to help battle that.
Any way, we all have our own paths, it’s all about finding yours.

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Re: transition with FFS and BA, not hormones or HRT. It is a good idea?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2021, 07:01:42 am »
Pammie is right about skin changing with HRT. For me, skin is the difference maker. I have small breasts, as I passed on BA, and I had minimal FFS (my forehead reset), plus I'm tall and have wide shoulders and a big rib cage and wear non-feminine clothing, but skin alone has me read as female. Without HRT and only FFS and BA, you might be read as female, but you'll lack feminine skin, which covers every bit of you. Now, I suppose you could slather your face with makeup like RuPaul, but RuPaul also has lightning advantages and only has to maintain a facade of femininity for minutes. In terms of its effect, skin is more than skin deep and no HRT will keep you swaddled in masculine skin. 

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Re: transition with FFS and BA, not hormones or HRT. It is a good idea?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2021, 10:07:46 am »
It's a good point about BA needing some natural breast shape. If you look at what they insert, it's these round plastic pillows, not any shape to them.

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HRT for 3 years then FFS and 2 months later GCS. I was supposed to have a BA with GCS but it was done a year later.

I have a nice shape to my breasts and yes the BA is a pillow. So tissue over the pillow is a positive. I have my BA partially under the muscle. Also, HRT has created a larger aeriola and nice nipple.

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