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Why some try to label differing opinions as “hate”
Ms. Grey:
Historically there has always been infighting amongst queer people.
Lesbians argue about what makes a true lesbian.
Gay men disagree about what qualities constitute being gay.
Some trans people believe in the idea of 'true trans'.
And everyone dislikes latecomers in all the aforementioned identities.
On the sports issue...
Name one trans athlete that is winning every time they compete and running away with all the medals.
There is no one that comes to my mind.
Also, percentages taken into account, how many trans athletes are there really?
I invite those who are interested to look up Caster Semenya as I am certain her story will have you questioning your position on this issue of who should be allowed to compete.
MistressStevie:
The art of "agreeing to disagree" is dying away. Not that long ago finding like minded
people could be a bit of challenge independent of flavor. The internet has given us an
amazing ability to find an echo-chamber for nearly any flavor and predilection. Thus
when we are always preaching to the choir the idea that there are other experiences is
all to quickly drowned out.
I still remember how eye opening it was to me to actually catch on to the value of
"win-win or no deal" from Covey's 7 habits. There may be an immature assumption
in part of our basic character that if we classify something as hate worthy then we no
longer need to find a way to a viable deal. Enlightenment is trying to understand first.
Then we can go forward politely on the wide variety of things we most likely agree upon.
That is my intelligent response.
The one that probably makes a clearer example would be referencing one or more of the
comedy sketches by George Carlin talking about how the powerful like to keep us focused
on differences so we do not catch on to what is going on at the top. He changed the
wordings over his career. I do not know that there is the vast conspiracy he pointed out,
but he did catch on to our capacity to obsess about differences rather than similarities.
Sephirah:
--- Quote from: MistressStevie on November 03, 2022, 01:38:40 pm ---The art of "agreeing to disagree" is dying away. Not that long ago finding like minded
people could be a bit of challenge independent of flavor. The internet has given us an
amazing ability to find an echo-chamber for nearly any flavor and predilection. Thus
when we are always preaching to the choir the idea that there are other experiences is
all to quickly drowned out.
--- End quote ---
This is actually a really good point. And I would go further by saying that the internet has made it exceedingly easy to hate with no consequences. When you don't have to look someone in the eye, it's easy for some people to spew all the bile in their hearts with reckless abandon, hiding behind a screen as they do so. This can, for some, be habit forming. And the only way they know how to live.
Finding groups who share the things they want to hate on only serves to create venomous bubbles of people, content to live within them. Differing opinions are seen as something very different these days. People sometimes take them as an affront to their very way of being. And the world we live in makes that rather easy to do.
I sometimes think that the online space has done for how people express themselves what trying to overprotect children has done for how they grow up. Sometimes you need to be exposed to things in order to become accustomed to them. There's nothing wrong with a few cuts and scrapes here and there. It's how you stop being allergic to stuff later on in life.
Iztaccihuatl:
--- Quote from: Sephirah on November 03, 2022, 02:19:38 pm ---This is actually a really good point. And I would go further by saying that the internet has made it exceedingly easy to hate with no consequences. When you don't have to look someone in the eye, it's easy for some people to spew all the bile in their hearts with reckless abandon, hiding behind a screen as they do so. This can, for some, be habit forming. And the only way they know how to live.
Finding groups who share the things they want to hate on only serves to create venomous bubbles of people, content to live within them. Differing opinions are seen as something very different these days. People sometimes take them as an affront to their very way of being. And the world we live in makes that rather easy to do.
I sometimes think that the online space has done for how people express themselves what trying to overprotect children has done for how they grow up. Sometimes you need to be exposed to things in order to become accustomed to them. There's nothing wrong with a few cuts and scrapes here and there. It's how you stop being allergic to stuff later on in life.
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And all that is currently paired up with a political environment where the 'my way or the highway' approach rules, compromises are considered a weakness and exposure to new ideas or different experiences is fought against like it was the bubonic plague.
MistressStevie:
--- Quote from: Iztaccihuatl on November 03, 2022, 04:09:45 pm ---And all that is currently paired up with a political environment where the 'my way or the highway' approach rules
--- End quote ---
This is the antithesis of the win-win or no deal. It becomes a "For me or my party to win we must punish you so
that you lose." It is what makes political conversations challenging. It is the punishing part of that where I take
the most affront. Either often or sooner than expected alliances change and evolve and we must soon break
bread with the enemy from yesterday. It can be attributed to Tsun Tsu's Art of War, but often we neglect ensuring
an enemy has a path of retreat so they are not fighting to the death.
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