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Why some try to label differing opinions as “hate”
Nadine Spirit:
So I am kind of bitter about this whole different opinion thing. Different opinions result in people being treated differently because some people are too different for most people to understand.
As well not everybody's opinion is as valid as everybody else's opinion on all topics. My opinion on the best football team is worthless as I hate football, especially when compared to a rabid fan who watches and reads everything she can about it.
Personally right now "opinions" are currently preventing me from receiving the same medical care as my wife. Our insurance does not pay for any type of transgender care. Even for things like therapy. Mine is for gender, hers is for anxiety, mine is denied, and hers is paid for. Why? Oh right, a little things called discrimination based upon transgender hate masquerading as opinions.
Ellie_Jean:
--- Quote from: Nadine Spirit on November 15, 2021, 05:53:52 pm ---So I am kind of bitter about this whole different opinion thing. Different opinions result in people being treated differently because some people are too different for most people to understand.
As well not everybody's opinion is as valid as everybody else's opinion on all topics. My opinion on the best football team is worthless as I hate football, especially when compared to a rabid fan who watches and reads everything she can about it.
Personally right now "opinions" are currently preventing me from receiving the same medical care as my wife. Our insurance does not pay for any type of transgender care. Even for things like therapy. Mine is for gender, hers is for anxiety, mine is denied, and hers is paid for. Why? Oh right, a little things called discrimination based upon transgender hate masquerading as opinions.
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Straight up. *Hugz* 🤗
Lady Sarah:
Going all the way back to the 1990s, I noticed members of the LGBTQ community hating on each other. The L hating the G, and both hating the T, as well as all of them complaining they wanted equality. Back then, I wrote an article that got printed in the San Francisco Bay Times newspaper about that, and how hypocritical it was to discriminate and hate other members of the LGBTQ community, and expect any sort of acceptance from the straight community.
That seemes to only calm down the battles for a few months. It seems to be human nature (tribalism?) to put down and demean anyone that is not part of your particular clique.
Here (on Susan's), people tend to be much more subtle about it due to heavy moderation. In some cases, say something they don't agree with, you will be reported.
There are plenty of entitled Karens on here, trying to make sure everything goes just the way they want it.
Misato:
I think it’s how people approach topics these days. Commit the slightest verbal infraction, and various -phobic and -ist terms start being tossed around. But sometimes the accusations are justified. Echoing a statement above, enough of those forges one into a raw nerve ready to react even when not appropriate.
Add to that in the 10 years since I started transition the process has gotten so much easier. But that ease, and publicity, has attracted attention from those who aim to claw those advances back. While it hurts to not have something, it hurts even more to earn something then have it taken away. Either state can feel like hatred, so the accusations start.
Ellie_Jean:
--- Quote from: Lady Sarah on November 15, 2021, 06:45:36 pm ---Going all the way back to the 1990s, I noticed members of the LGBTQ community hating on each other. The L hating the G, and both hating the T, as well as all of them complaining they wanted equality. Back then, I wrote an article that got printed in the San Francisco Bay Times newspaper about that, and how hypocritical it was to discriminate and hate other members of the LGBTQ community, and expect any sort of acceptance from the straight community.
That seemes to only calm down the battles for a few months. It seems to be human nature (tribalism?) to put down and demean anyone that is not part of your particular clique.
Here (on Susan's), people tend to be much more subtle about it due to heavy moderation. In some cases, say something they don't agree with, you will be reported.
There are plenty of entitled Karens on here, trying to make sure everything goes just the way they want it.
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--- Quote from: Misato on November 15, 2021, 10:26:18 pm ---I think it’s how people approach topics these days. Commit the slightest verbal infraction, and various -phobic and -ist terms start being tossed around. But sometimes the accusations are justified. Echoing a statement above, enough of those forges one into a raw nerve ready to react even when not appropriate.
Add to that in the 10 years since I started transition the process has gotten so much easier. But that ease, and publicity, has attracted attention from those who aim to claw those advances back. While it hurts to not have something, it hurts even more to earn something then have it taken away. Either state can feel like hatred, so the accusations start.
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