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Valerie:
I'm at work and didn't have time to read this whole article yet, but wanted to get it posted here.  Check out this excerpt from the first page & the entire article can be found using the link below :



--- Quote ---The Science Of Sexual Orientation
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March 12, 2006
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Jared (left) and Adam are nine years old. Their mother says she began to notice a difference in Adam when he was only 18 months old. Adam's behavior is an example of childhood gender nonconformity, say scientists. Research shows that most children with extreme tendencies toward gender nonconformity grow up to be gay. (CBS)

There are few issues as hotly contested — and as poorly understood — as the question of what makes a person gay or straight. It's not only a political, social, and religious question but also a scientific question, one that might someday have an actual, provable answer.

The handful of scientists who work in this under-funded and politically charged field will tell you: That answer is a long way off. But as Lesley Stahl reports, their efforts are already yielding tantalizing clues. One focus of their research is twins.

The bedrooms of 9-year-old twins Adam and Jared couldn't be more different. Jared's room is decked out with camouflage, airplanes, and military toys, while Adam's room sports a pastel canopy, stuffed animals, and white horses.

When Stahl came for a visit, Jared was eager to show her his G.I. Joe collection. "I have ones that say like Marine and SWAT. And then that's where I keep all the guns for 'em," he explained.

Adam was also proud to show off his toys. "This is one of my dolls. Bratz baby," he said.

Adam wears pinkish-purple nail polish, adorned with stars and diamonds.

Asked if he went to school like that, Adam says, "Uh-huh. I just showed them my nails, and they were like, 'Why did you do that?'"

Adam's behavior is called childhood gender nonconformity, meaning a child whose interests and behaviors are more typical of the opposite sex. Research shows that kids with extreme gender nonconformity usually grow up to be gay.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/09/60minutes/main1385230.shtml


I think it's absolutely ridiculous to suggest that gender nonconformity is a precursor to homosexuality...  but I see it as a major positive that these kids' parents are accepting and allowing both their kids to express their preferences....

XO,
Valerie

Kate:
Yup, Michael Bailey strikes again.

See also: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2595.0.html

I'm actually not so sure about those twins. The one is sooooo hyper-masculine, and the other sooooo hyper-feminine, that it seems like some sort of competition between the two of them.

Kimberly:
Oh yes, definitely 'gay' behavior.

*sigh*

Some times you have to wonder where people put their brains. Gay is a sexual orientation. Where, prey tell, was there mention of sexuality?

*froths at the mouth.*

madison:
Fascinating subject.

Very interesting take on the article Kate. I may not have noticed that.

True there was no mention of sexuality. But as Beth stated in the forum topic Effeminacy in gay culture:


--- Quote ---We all have our TS stories of dressing, playing with opposite gender toys etc. Imagine if you were in second grade and happily male in your male body but attracted to other boys. Could you watch a Disney cartoon version of "Brokeback Mountain"?  No you would be watching "Sleeping Beauty".  If the class is to act out "Sleeping Beauty" you want to play her part, not because you are female inside but because she is the only one who will be kissed by the prince in the end. I think a society that promotes heterosexuality and hides/attacks homosexuality plays a role in this.

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Without the awareness of TG/TS and gender dysphoric issues, a young boy such as Adam, could begin to identify as being gay, even if there is in fact a woman emotionally lurking within. In the example above, he would begin to relate with "Sleeping Beauty", and may also attach his interests to actually kissing the prince, because that is what the "princess" does. Even assuming that nature arguments are completely true, one cannot deny the power of conditioning to distort and cloud perceptions of ourselves and the world around us. Therefore I suggest that the study could very well be true, even if it would not be true if our society functioned differently, and TS/TG issues were more understood and accepted.

Gender non-conformity may not HAVE to be a precursor, but it seems entirely plausible to me that this is one possible reaction/reality. I say this as I feel it may relate to my own personal experiences.

Fascinating subject.

rana:
Hi Valerie :)
Just reading that item, somebody has just got to be pulling somebodys leg there (I looked to see if the date was 1/4).

Where are the parents in all of this - did they have any input into the decking out of the twins bedrooms.

Its like Kate said - just too extreme,  are those kids playing roles?  I would even tend to be a bit sus about Jared he is being a bit too macho (or he is being reported that way).  When you think about it Jared is also playing with dolls?  When I was his age I certainly had a collection of war like toys - but they were armoured vehicles & planes (brings back memories there :)  I had examples of the best of the German Luftwaffe, we used to reinvent and reinterpret  the Battle of Britain)

In fact the more I think about it the article seems B/s. 

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