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Do you call it SRS (sex reassignment surgery) or GRS (genital reassignment surgery/gender reassignment surgery/genital reconstruction surgery)?

SRS
37 (52.9%)
GRS
22 (31.4%)
something else (discuss)
11 (15.7%)

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SRS or GRS?
« on: April 01, 2008, 01:04:45 pm »
I'm wondering if there is any consensus forming on which term to use for it.
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Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2008, 01:14:05 pm »
Personally, I use "SRS."

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NicholeW.

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2008, 01:16:02 pm »
SRS.

It better not be a 'gender' change. If that's what someone is going for they maybe should re-think it.

This poll said Genital Reassignment Surgery. I had my genitals changed not my gender. I also didn't change my sex either.
So it did. Maybe I should read more closely. ..... nah.

N~

Sheila

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2008, 01:35:35 pm »
This poll said Genital Reassignment Surgery. I had my genitals changed not my gender. I also didn't change my sex either.

TreeFlower

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2008, 02:01:57 pm »
I'm confused.  I thought GRS = Gender Reassignment Surgery.  SRS = Sex Reassignment Surgery.  So I always used GRS because I want the word sex out of the whole thing.  This has nothing to do with what I want sexualy.  Enough people think I did this for sexual reasons.  Sex has nothing to do with it.  So I like to use the word gender.  I also like to use the term transgender because it doesn't have the word sex in it.  I'm saddened that it has become an umberlla term.

SRS.

It better not be a 'gender' change. If that's what someone is going for they maybe should re-think it.

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Now I'm really confused.

Kate

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2008, 02:11:08 pm »
I'm confused.  I thought GRS = Gender Reassignment Surgery.

I've heard both Gender and Genital used. And Gender Confirmation Surgery, and... on and on.

I don't like confusion either. I like the original SRS, even with the the word SEX in it, since IMHO, I am changing my physical sex. In my mind, no matter what else I've done or how I look, I'm still physically male until that surgery.

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Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2008, 02:14:31 pm »
I thought GRS was Genital Reassignment Surgery, but I agree that I would prefer transgender rather than
transsexual because I don't feel like it has anything to do with sex. But I tend to use TS because
Transgender seems to be, as Treeflower said, turned into an umbrella term.  There is nothing wrong
with being CD or TV or any of the other conditions that transgender encompasses but that does not
describe me. So... I hate the term transsexual but that is the best way to describe my situation.

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PolarBear

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2008, 02:15:53 pm »
I'm confused.  I thought GRS = Gender Reassignment Surgery.  SRS = Sex Reassignment Surgery.  So I always used GRS because I want the word sex out of the whole thing.  This has nothing to do with what I want sexualy.  Enough people think I did this for sexual reasons.  Sex has nothing to do with it.  So I like to use the word gender.  I also like to use the term transgender because it doesn't have the word sex in it.  I'm saddened that it has become an umberlla term.

SRS.

It better not be a 'gender' change. If that's what someone is going for they maybe should re-think it.

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Now I'm really confused.

The gender doesn't change with surgery; the surgery is to change the body to match the gender of the one going under the knife. Thus, the "body sex" is changing.

The word "sex" here does not mean sexual, only as an indication as to what kind of body we are talking about, a male or female body.


Personally, I use SRS, but that is mostly because that is the term I encountered most on these boards, and thus stuck with me.

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Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2008, 03:54:39 pm »
I'm with Kate on this one. I'm changing physical Sex to match mental Gender, but I do suppose it depends on how one defines those two words.

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Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2008, 04:38:24 pm »
I would prefer Genital Reassignment Surgery.  Please don't try to tell me this is all about sex!


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Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2008, 04:43:42 pm »
I have started to refer to it as Gender Confirmation Surgery. GCS

Basically because my surgeon refers to it that way since that is in fact what it is.  I already know what gender I am, and the surgery now confirms it.

And while it is my preference, any of the other terms are acceptable to me.

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NicholeW.

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2008, 06:16:40 pm »
My thoughts are exactly what Polarbear said. Gender doesn't change under the ministrations of a knife.

Outward sex does. The problem with the word is that the first thing in the minds of many is 'having sex,' not 'being a sex.'

N~

Natasha

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2008, 06:29:05 pm »
i will go with sas for sex affirmation surgery :P

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Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2008, 06:46:09 pm »
Vaginoplasty. That's what it is.

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SRS or GRS overemphasize its importance IMO. See the thread on "misconceptions."

(For FTM's, I'm not sure even which precicely which surgury SRS is referring to; so I'll go with "NMB" -- None of My Business.)
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Steph

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2008, 06:59:15 pm »
Hmmm... some may see this as controversial, but what the heck :)

Personally I prefer cosmetic surgery (CS).  I believe that the word sex is too broad a term to use as it can be associated with a persons gender, the difference between male and female, and/or the act of (having sex), and in some parts of society the word sex is seen as something bad, never talked about at the dinner table.  Gender on the other hand is too narrow a term as it simply means either being of the male or female type.

Further to this I don't believe that you can change either you gender or your sex when dealing in this situation.  Cosmetic surgery on the other hand, is used to alter, improve, enhance "physical" body parts.  So for me I had cosmetic surgery to alter certain body parts so that they were congruent with, and reflected my true gender.

I think the use of the terms GRS, SRS, or any other "Reassignment" surgeries contributes to the confusion and none acceptance by those who are not transsexual.  many feel that gender or sex can't be reassigned as a person is born male or female.

Steph

Kate

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2008, 06:59:15 pm »
Vaginoplasty. That's what it is.

Ya know... that's a GREAT point!

I change my vote! Well I would if it was an option, lol... ;)

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NicholeW.

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2008, 07:43:54 pm »
Hmmm... some may see this as controversial, but what the heck :)

Personally I prefer cosmetic surgery (CS).  I believe that the word sex is too broad a term to use as it can be associated with a persons gender, the difference between male and female, and/or the act of (having sex), and in some parts of society the word sex is seen as something bad, never talked about at the dinner table.  Gender on the other hand is too narrow a term as it simply means either being of the male or female type.

Further to this I don't believe that you can change either you gender or your sex when dealing in this situation.  Cosmetic surgery on the other hand, is used to alter, improve, enhance "physical" body parts.  So for me I had cosmetic surgery to alter certain body parts so that they were congruent with, and reflected my true gender.

I think the use of the terms GRS, SRS, or any other "Reassignment" surgeries contributes to the confusion and none acceptance by those who are not transsexual.  many feel that gender or sex can't be reassigned as a person is born male or female.

Steph

Now THAT was a good set of points.

N~

tinkerbell

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2008, 08:05:36 pm »
Personally I've always called it SRS (SEX REASSIGNMENT SURGERY), but in my very last few posts I've called it GRS (GENITAL RECONSTRUCTION SURGERY).  After all, that is what surgeons do anyway, to RECONSTRUCT the genitals to match the patient's gender identity, no?

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Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2008, 09:15:55 pm »
I thought GRS was Genital Reassignment Surgery
I did too. But when I looked up the subject, I was surprised to find the phrase "gender reassignment surgery" along with "genital reassignment surgery" and "genital reconstruction surgery" for GRS. So I will modify my original question. I had not suspected that anyone would seriously refer to a surgery as "gender reassignment."

I don't call myself transgender. The word doesn't have a clear, precise meaning and doesn't really state who I am. The exact word for what I am is transsexual. I'm afraid I have no patience with my fellow Americans and their prissy fear of the word "sex." There is nothing wrong or shameful about being sexual. We're all sexual beings. The surgery in question is for our sex organs--there's no such thing as a "gender organ," silly!

Posted on: April 01, 2008, 09:05:20 PM
Vaginoplasty. That's what it is.
Female chauvinist! What about the dudes?

Posted on: April 01, 2008, 09:10:27 PM
I've never really given much thought to it.  I use them synonymously.  The decision on which to use is made by the better alliteration.  They both convey the same procedures, usually in reference to genital surgery.  So what's the big deal?
I want to pick one term and use it consistently.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

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Kate

Re: SRS or GRS?
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2008, 09:17:46 pm »
Female chauvinist! What about the dudes?

Phalloplasty.

I like the intent here of stripping away all the interpretations of what it MEANS, and just telling it like it IS.

It wasn't long in coming out that I stopped using the word "transsexual" entirely, and just told people that, "I'm changing my sex and going by the name Kate now." The "changing my sex" part sounds a bit presumptuous now, but the idea was to just tell it like it is, and not try to convince anyone of anything.

But that's just me ;)

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