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Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« on: April 19, 2009, 05:20:00 am »
Hello!

I was wondering how long does it take the face to be feminized so you are recognized as a female in face pictures.

How long did it take people here?

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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 05:31:08 am »
I did not do it yet, but it's pretty much a big deal to me. It depends on how masculine certain facial features are, some have more some have less. It can be done in a day and it can be done in a matter of years.

Here's a good link,
http://www.tsroadmap.com/reality/finance/finintro.html

« Last Edit: April 19, 2009, 06:31:09 am by Paulina »

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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 01:31:12 pm »
i really want to do ffs,but i cant aford it right now but after almost two years on hormones and loosing  over 50 lbs i can see a big change,i think for me it was when i was able to fill good about myself and just be me and not care what people think.before i started i looked in the mirror and told myself i can't do this look at your self but anyone care,i hope the best for you and everyone in here.

    p.s.  try to find a support group they really help and maybe friend some freinds

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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 11:14:36 pm »
It depends on the person and what your bone structure is to begin with.

Losing weight is always good.

Do not be surprised at how things change.

I'm going to include a picture here of me after 3 months of spiro (and nothing else), then me one entire year later. Look at how the face becomes more delicate and especially all the stuff in the lower part of the face and neck thins out.



Also included here is a picture from last summer with about three months of ESTROGEN added to the spiro. Note how the cheeks do flesh out.



I was 39 in two of these pics. Younger people tend to do better.

Like others have said, you can use tricks too. How you do your makeup can make a big difference in what parts of your face are accentuated. Minimize the masculine stuff; maximize feminine aspects. Even your haircut changes the shape of your face, you can use it to frame your face, or cover up a square jaw, or whatever else.

I usually thought out my appearance pretty well, to help shape my face. For me, I was passing 95% of the time at the time when the bottom picture was taken.

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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 11:35:04 pm »
Eek! there was 5% that you didn't pass? how?! (That's a compliment and a question! ^^)

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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 12:08:46 am »
Eek! there was 5% that you didn't pass? how?! (That's a compliment and a question! ^^)

I second that question, you turned out beautiful :) If theres ever a time you did not pass i dont see how!

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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 01:39:11 am »
Not only did you pass as a woman, but you look beautiful!

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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2009, 01:43:51 am »
Jenny, don't take offense at this as none is meant, but,.... are you sure you're trans? I would never have guessed.

I wish my wife could see your pics... maybe she'd stop saying that, at 21, she's too old to have hrt do anything for her.

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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2009, 04:56:25 am »
Hello!

I was wondering how long does it take the face to be feminized so you are recognized as a female in face pictures.

How long did it take people here?

You can't feminize a face with hormones. HRT can sometimes make the skin a little softer but it won't change the way you look unless you are pre - puberty.
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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2009, 05:04:10 am »
You can't feminize a face with hormones. HRT can sometimes make the skin a little softer but it won't change the way you look unless you are pre - puberty.

Did you post without scrolling up?  Because your post makes no sense if you didn't.

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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 12:26:00 pm »
I call BS on that in a big way blondie.  The face can be "feminized" with hormones changing the fat/muscle distribution.  Thus changing your appearance.  The bone structure is not affected by the hormones however. 

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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 08:23:22 pm »
I call BS on that in a big way blondie.  The face can be "feminized" with hormones changing the fat/muscle distribution.  Thus changing your appearance.  The bone structure is not affected by the hormones however.

That's the key.

Hormones redistributes the 'soft stuff' -- depending on your genetics.

Also depending on your genetics is the bone stuff, but that has to be surgically altered and otherwise does not change.

This topic is near and dear to me because when I decided to transition, I thought I would have no way to pass ever or survive the anxiety without facial surgery... but I didn't have the money. I staked my emotional well-being on hormones -- and was fortunate. And I see other people who do well with hormones too. So they shouldn't be downplayed. The effectiveness depends on your bone structure... and I was fortunate to have non-masculinized skull structure.

Eek! there was 5% that you didn't pass? how?! (That's a compliment and a question! ^^)

I honestly don't know when I didn't pass (we can't read people's minds to see what they perceive), there were just a few times when I got looks from people that made me wonder if they knew. But I have never had an issue with bathrooms when I started going out, for which I'm grateful...

I wish my wife could see your pics... maybe she'd stop saying that, at 21, she's too old to have hrt do anything for her.

Yeah, that's definitely not a necessary truth. It just depends on the person.

Twenty-one? Uggh. I wish I had started then.

... thank you for the kudos. Funny, though, I'm still insecure about my appearance. And part of it is because I spent 38-40 years as a male and so it's hard to get past all the years of living in that role... A lot of the battle is fought in our own minds, I think.

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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 09:56:05 pm »
tomorrow is my 20th birthday and I am depressed about my current feminization stages (about 11 months on HRT) :X

I am just so lost @@..

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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 10:16:16 pm »
Lets see after one year on hrt I was passable, after two years even more so.  It's partly soft tissue and partly relaxing and just being you. Soft tissue is fair game with HRT and depending on how well you choose your parents will effect how well HRT does it's magic.  IT DOES MAKE a Difference or did anyway with my then 50 year old body.  Oh yes, HRT cuts about 10 years off your appearance.

  Me I noticed that the eye lids changed just a little, Got Cheeks, lips changed a little.  Bone structure did not change. 

Besides that shaping the eyebrows, good makeup and relaxing and not worring that the 6 year old is reading you (what the heck is it with 6 year olds anyway.  ;-)

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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2009, 05:45:05 pm »
Besides that shaping the eyebrows, good makeup and relaxing and not worring that the 6 year old is reading you (what the heck is it with 6 year olds anyway.  ;-)

Yes, they are too darn precocious for their own good!
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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2009, 07:31:11 am »
I hope this doesn't make me seem shallow but this post has given me a bit of hope.  I rarely post, mostly I just sit and read.   I don't know how many of you that post regularly understand how much it helps to know that other people are not just struggling with the same issues in their lives, but are able to come to peace with those issues. 

I've looked into therapy on and off for years and for the past eighteen months I've been seriously talking with a therapist but I've always been terrified of going through with transition.  Part of that fear is due to family, but that fear was lessened a few months ago when I came out to my sister. I told her that I wasn't sure where I was going, but I knew I wasn't a straight man.  Her response was, no kidding.  She had suspected that I was gay and she thought I would talk to her about it when I was ready.  I can't say what a relief it was to talk to her about my life honestly for the first time.  Next up is my mom.  I plan on telling her when she comes to visit me this summer.

Other than family issues my biggest fear of transitioning is that I wouldn't be seen as a woman.  I know that is shallow but I'm not sure I go through the rest of my life with people thinking that I'm just a man in woman's clothes.  I have the utmost respect for people who transition without being able to pass, but I'm that strong.  I don't want to spend the rest of my life sticking out.  It's not that I care what other people think, but I hate attention, and the idea of not blending in terrifies me. 

I can't afford FFS now, nor anytime for the foreseeable future.  But seeing the changes that hormones have caused in other people over the years gives me hope that they may help me feel less uncomfortable in my own body.

Yvonne

Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2009, 09:04:02 am »
Depends. Whilst some achieve a very feminine face in a few months after mones without surgery that allows them to blend, there are some gals that never do & need surgical FFS to do the same.

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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2009, 11:04:19 am »
HRT - facial feminization, plus weight loss - pretty rapid results- about four months.


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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2009, 11:37:37 am »
4 months?
I'm in trouble!

Post Merge: April 27, 2009, 12:10:24 pm
I posted pictures.. would love any advises!
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,59217.new.html#new
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Re: Face feminization questions (hormonal way!)
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2009, 04:15:32 am »
Hello!

I was wondering how long does it take the face to be feminized so you are recognized as a female in face pictures.

How long did it take people here?

It depends on the genetics, age and fat distribution of the individual. Some do not get any improvement or feminization from HRT at all. It's pot luck as to whether it works or not but the younger you are the more chance it will work.
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