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FTMs regretting transition
« on: November 30, 2009, 05:03:30 am »
I know its rare but I have read some cases of MTFs that regret transitioning, but I have never seen any information on FTMs that regret transition, or go back to living as female on purpose.  Is this unheard of?

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 05:05:55 am »
Havent heard of anybody either.

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2009, 05:13:42 am »
Nope. Never heard of anybody. I'd venture to say that the number of MTFs de-transitioning is high compared to us because of the social backlash they face.
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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2009, 06:19:35 am »
I have heard of this there was a documentary on BBC 3 about Trans people and there was an MTF who had SRS and wanted to change back. But couldn't.

That is the only case I have heard of.

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2009, 08:28:19 am »
I'm sure there are some out there, but I think it's very, very rare. That's why doctors have us jump through so many hoops. They want to make sure we're ready and want to transition so if someone regrets it later it's harder to sue the doctors.
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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2009, 08:29:33 am »
I heard and had the chance to talk to 2 mtf who regretted and then did it again.

Never an ftm though.
I do think it's a lot due to sociality and that ftm pass so much easier usually.

Another thing can be hormonal, testosterone affects you in one way, estrogen in another.
There are many researchs on how additional dht and testosterone make you more sure and confident of yourself, while the other way around, you can become quite really unstable. Now add on top of being unstable the social part and you can easily collapse.

That's my theory, not experimented or tested in any way.

Post Merge: November 30, 2009, 08:31:21 am
here we go, wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_man
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there is only a small incidence of post-operative regret. Indeed, in a review of the outcome literature Pfafflin (1992) reports that less than 1% of the female-to-male transsexuals who had undergone sex reassignment had any regrets.[13] Not all transsexual men wish to undergo SRS, nor is surgery necessary for trans men to identify as male or be accepted as such by others.

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2009, 09:01:18 am »
There are many researchs on how additional dht and testosterone make you more sure and confident of yourself, while the other way around, you can become quite really unstable.

Wait. Are you saying that HRT has made me unstable?
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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2009, 09:27:25 am »
Get away from me you crazy woman!! :D

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2009, 09:39:14 am »
I have heard of guys stop taking T after going through changes they desired - like deeper voice and some facial hair etc. There are a few vids on youtube by such individuals.
Like everyone else never heard of someone regretting it.
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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2009, 10:28:58 am »
There's one person on a feminist blog I read (Feministe) who transitioned back to female.  That's all I've seen, but I haven't researched or anything.

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2009, 10:35:15 am »
There's one person on a feminist blog I read (Feministe) who transitioned back to female.  That's all I've seen, but I haven't researched or anything.

Ouch! that sounds really painful. voice, breast removal, facial hair. and back?!

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2009, 11:31:11 am »
The thought of regretting often comes to my mind. I'm not on T at this time nor have I gotten any SRS yet. What I fear the most is not being able to reproduce once I fully transition. I would be unable to produce Sperm that will impregnate a woman because I wasn't born with the desired equipment that is needed to create sperm. I don't like the idea of being "altered". I don't think I would ever get a total hysterectomy simply for that reasons alone. Sometimes you just need to go with the flow... You need to accept certain things that you don't like. You don't need to have a penis to be a man. it's all in your heart.

I don't think I will be getting bottom surgery (although I've thought about it) as well because I fear that I wont have sexual gratification due to an accidental nerve damage that occurs during surgery. Sex feeling is very important to me.

Top surgery and getting T is my first priory. If I want my tits back, I'd get silicone. it's a reversible procedure.

Transitioning is a very serious thing to do. It's not a game nor a joke. It's a privilege, not a right. It's a whole new world once you transition. I'm glad that theirs some regulations that is required to transition other wise things would be so far out of control you have patients suing their doctors and etc.

If you look at a picture of Michael Jackson before and after... you can clearly understand the reason why I'm supporting the strict regulations towards transition including general cosmetic surgery.


Including the infamous  wealthy socialist Jocelyn Wildenstein

She paid doctors (its reported that she paid up to 4 million dollars) to make herself look gruesome. It's enough to make even leatherface look decent.


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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2009, 12:19:18 pm »
I must shield my eyes. I accidentally stumbled upon a site of bad cosmetic surgery the other day, and yet here it is again. These two will never cease to scare me.
I will never understand how someone can get themselves into a train wreck like that. One bad surgery after another.
I have never been a supporter of cosmetic surgery abuse like that. You just end up looking plastic and plain weird.

So I I understand how surgical mistakes can lead to someone regretting these decisions for the rest of their life.

I've only had one "cosmetic" surgery done. And it was to tighten a weak muscle in one of my eyes that turned inward.

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2009, 04:22:01 pm »

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I've heard of mtf regretting transition, but not of any ftm.
Except this one, my friend's friend had top surgery done and later regretted it.
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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2009, 07:13:51 pm »
yes, i have met a couple of them at a conference i used to go to.  One keeps getting mistaken for a gay male.  The other ended up having kids. 

Both had gone through Top Surgery and Hormones.

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 07:31:45 am »
Including the infamous wealthy socialist Jocelyn Wildenstein
She paid doctors (its reported that she paid up to 4 million dollars) to make herself look gruesome. It's enough to make even leatherface look decent.
Holy sh*t that startled me! :o
What's sad is that there are people out there deformed, either at birth or another cause, who wished they had the money to have work done to appear more normal. This woman spent around 4 million to purposely look deformed.
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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2009, 11:46:42 pm »
There's one person on a feminist blog I read (Feministe) who transitioned back to female.  That's all I've seen, but I haven't researched or anything.

I heard of this too. She had been on T for about two years.

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2009, 03:48:36 am »
I know its rare but I have read some cases of MTFs that regret transitioning, but I have never seen any information on FTMs that regret transition, or go back to living as female on purpose.  Is this unheard of?

My room-mate used to work with this woman local to us (and still reads her LJ) and she's "ex-FTM".  One of the TS women at my local group reports from the local LBQ women's community that she's encountered "disturbingly too many FTMTF people" -- she also reports that "there are far more FTMTFs than MTFTMs".  Also, after one of the members of Bitch & Animal (I think the latter) started dating Susan Powter, she became convinced that "being trans" is "all about hating women" and last I heard, (about two or three years ago) had ID'd as "proudly ex-Trans".  Note that none of these people had gone through GRS or any legal work beyond *maybe* a name-change.  My room-mate's co-worker, though, did change her name and was on testosterone for two years before realising that she was just a woman having a crisis. 

Basically, when women think they might be TS men, they either figure out long before they start HRT or go through GRS that they thought wrong, so they're not counted in any "ex-Trans" stats, because most places require one go through genital reconstruction to get a gender-marker change and therefore count as a "real transsexual" for the purposes of these surveys.  So the fact that TS men are less likely to get genital recon than TS women means there are at least a fair handful of people these surveys might not even be counting.


Including the infamous  wealthy socialist Jocelyn Wildenstein

Socialite.  Socialists are almost never socialites. 



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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2009, 01:36:55 pm »
Ouch! that sounds really painful. voice, breast removal, facial hair. and back?!

She was actually pretty lucky in that for breast removal she pretty much just got lipo on her breasts because they were so small.  I think they're back to about what they were before.  But yeah, she had to get electrolysis and stuff, and some things never changed back.

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Re: FTMs regretting transition
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2009, 04:09:33 pm »
The thought of regretting often comes to my mind. I'm not on T at this time nor have I gotten any SRS yet. What I fear the most is not being able to reproduce once I fully transition. I would be unable to produce Sperm that will impregnate a woman because I wasn't born with the desired equipment that is needed to create sperm. I don't like the idea of being "altered". I don't think I would ever get a total hysterectomy simply for that reasons alone. Sometimes you just need to go with the flow... You need to accept certain things that you don't like. You don't need to have a penis to be a man. it's all in your heart.

I don't think I will be getting bottom surgery (although I've thought about it) as well because I fear that I wont have sexual gratification due to an accidental nerve damage that occurs during surgery. Sex feeling is very important to me.

Top surgery and getting T is my first priory. If I want my tits back, I'd get silicone. it's a reversible procedure.

Transitioning is a very serious thing to do. It's not a game nor a joke. It's a privilege, not a right. It's a whole new world once you transition. I'm glad that theirs some regulations that is required to transition other wise things would be so far out of control you have patients suing their doctors and etc.

I absolutely agree. I, as well, will never have a hysterectomy, unless it's medically necessary (god forbid), and don't plan on ever having bottom surgery. I should have been born with a penis, but I wasn't. I'm dealing with it. In the meantime, I'd rather not screw with what's working at the moment. The bitch tits will go, but that's it, and they're pretty hideous now anyway, after 3 years of binding.

But I don't regret any of it. I, probably like most of you, spent a very long time deliberating over whether or not to go on T. I considered and weighed all the options. It's a pretty rational process.

I've never heard of an ftm regretting transition, but plenty of mtfs. Kind of makes me wonder if the people who do detransition have some other mental problems going on.

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