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Jenn

Hormones on Male thinking
« on: September 08, 2005, 01:11:54 pm »
Hello! My name is Jenn, and I am new here.  I am a eunuch now and have been for 5 years. I am trying to decide with the help of all of you and my psychiatrsit if i want to transform. I am 54 years old and in good health. I am singel and I own my own business.  What I am intrested now the thinking of a <transgender> male. How does it change from male to female? I am looking for web pages articles and your help in your comments.  Can you help me please?  thank you, Jenn

Cassandra

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2005, 02:03:12 pm »
Hi Jenn,

Welcome to Susan's. Well when it comes to info, advice and support you have hit the jackpot. It's all we do here.  ;D Lots of friendly folk who are not shy about dispensing advice. Especially me!. Be sure to read the site rules.

The WIKI board is a very good place to start. There is lots of information there to get you started. Second is the forums themselves. You will find lots of stories that match your own and similar situations. Here we generally refer to people by the gender they identify with. If you are MtF(Male to Female) you are her, she, girlfriend etc. If you are FtM(Female to Male) the male pronouns are used. That being said, fix yourself a cup of tea, or other relaxing beverage, sit down, take your shoes off and set a spell.

Good Journey,


Cassie

Jenn

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2005, 02:27:25 pm »
Thankyou, for your welcome.  where might you suggest is the best place to go on this sight to get the information that I need. I understand the other suggestions and I am visiting the rules again. thanks again, Jenn

Cassandra

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2005, 02:45:19 pm »
Imight be able to help you better if I understood the question better.

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the thinking of a <transgender> male.

Please elaborate. The thinking of a transwoman is that of a woman and is of course a very complex subject.

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How does it change from male to female?

Do you mean what are the physical changes? Or are you referring to how things might change as far as how a male is viewed versus a female? The question is unclear.

Think about it and then post your response. I have to run some errands so it may be a while before I can get back to you. Also someone else may come in and respond before I can get back. There are lots of folks here and I'm sure we can find the right stuff for you if we understand your questions a little better.

Good Journey,

Cassie

stephanie_craxford

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2005, 06:01:40 pm »
Hello again Jenn,
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How does it change from male to female?

I don't think that you can change male thinking to female thinking if you are talking about the differences between the female and male brain.  These are what you are born with and what drives the Gender Identity Disorder or Dysphoria (GID).  We are born with female brains but cursed with male bodies.

Check out this link in the Wiki it may shed some light on the subject.

https://www.susans.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder

Chat later

Steph

beth

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2005, 12:49:10 am »
female hormones when given to the male body do not change the male brain to a female brain. i believe blocking or eliminating testosterone will cause some changes in behavior but i do not think adding female hormones will change someones feelings or thinking in any significant way. i'm no expert, just speaking from my experience and those i've heard from.

i do not believe it is possible to transform a male into a female except in fiction.

beth.

Shelley

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2005, 04:28:44 pm »
I have to agree with you there Beth. We are who we are. Some don't physically match who they are.

It is therefore only the physical characteristics that we attempt to change so that they match the person within.

Does that help Jenn?

Shelley

AmyNYC

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2005, 12:53:35 pm »
Jenn,

Your question was a little confusing, but I'm guessing you meant how does one's thinking change when you transition from male to female?

I have to strongly disagree with everyone else.  I've always said that the mental changes I've experienced during transition dwarf the physical ones.  That goes for both intensity and importance.  In other words, the mental changes have been much more dramatic than the physical ones, and, in the long run, I think I will value the mental changes much more than the physical.  In some ways, hormone replacement therapy (HRT) has changed the kind of person I am.  Also, the process and pressures of transition changed who I am as a person, too.  In a lot of ways, I always thought like a guy.  Those thoughts have definitely changed.

I want to be very clear that I haven't experienced a change in core beliefs or morals.

HRT changed my sex drive, but it didn't change my sexual preference.  I get turned on by different things now, and in different intensities.  It sounds terribly stereotypical, but I'm much more romantic now.

The emotions I have now are much more intense.  I'm not neccessarily more moody, but if I get angry at something that I would have gotten angry at before transition, I get much more angry.  I was always known as a pretty happy-go-lucky person, who could occasionally get pissed at something.  Now everybody knows, if Amy's in a bad mood, give her space, or she'll bite your head off.

I was never a big fan of the male population, but now I just can't stand them.  I view men in a different light now, as I do women, too.

The way I think about myself has changed.  That was probably one of the hardest to accomplish, & I'm still working on it.

There's more, but that's all I can think of right now.  Also, it's hard to explain some of the changes... you just have to experience them.  Hope this sheds some light,

Amy

Terri-Gene

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2005, 02:24:07 pm »
Hello Jenn.  I'll give my take on this for what ever it is worth.  Male thinking is driven by testosterone, which aside from it's maculinising effects on the body also affects how the brain sees and views things, a drug.

You say you have been Orchied for approximately 5 years now.  Testicular Cancer perhaps?  At any rate, you have been basically free of testosterone influence for some time now and so in many ways see and view things in a different way then you did before.  It's not female thinking because your brain lacks the experience and training of a female and her life as one,  but it is similar.

The male body and brain, or thinking rather, when deprived of testosterone will change to a large extent toward more feminine lines over time even without hormones,  but unless you are accepted and recognized as a female by society, and therefore treated no differently then any other female, with no concessions whatsoever because of your male background, you will never really understand the thinking of a female.  There will be similarities but I can not even begin to explain the differences.

You ask how a <transgender> males thinking changes from male to female.  All I can say about this is that it is a long and time consuming process and that most of it occurs on the unconcious level.  You will hear many talk about how they have always thought like a female and that brain wise they truely are female, in my opinion that is so much toilet fodder.

If you have been raised male, worked in male occupation and been seen, treated and recognized as male you have been instilled with certain expectations and thinking patterns which are different from people who have been raised and recognized as female.  Your imprinting is different and you have no idea of how a female really thinks or feels in the same way you do not understand how you would think and feel if you had been raised, recognized and treated as a black person if you were white.  Understanding resides on many levels.

Your thinking does not begin to change from male to female in a true sense until you have actually lived as a female, with no male recognition at all in any way for any reason no matter what, in the female environment, and been treated as no different from any other female by any and all you encounter, at work, at home and in general public and social activities.  It is as you adapt to these circumstances that you truely begin to Think and Feel like a female.

Until then you may find yourself basically sharing some feelings and emotions etc. but that is not the same and true female mentality.

Terri
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Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2005, 04:58:39 pm »
Well said, Terri.

I had an interesting experience that brought home some of the differences to me, recently. I parked in an underground parking lot and when I got out of my car, there was only me and a young woman on crutches in the lot. The look she gave me was half fear and half assessing the threat. It was one that I might have had on my face 10 years ago encountering a strange guy in a similar situation, only this time I was the potential threat.

And that's only one aspect of it. There's getting less credibility from mechanics and others in traditionally "male" domains, regardless of your actual knowledge. And goes down in layers that are much more subtle than that.

Certainly having grown up female makes me different in many ways from most men. Testosterone has changed some things perhaps in the way I think, but hasn't changed my values and morals, and hasn't changed the way my experience informs my thoughts and the conclusions I draw.

The only real changes I notice are sex drive (which changes the way I look at women, but not the way I act on it - that's from experience), and the fact that I don't cry at all anymore. Also my taste in movies has changed. I never did like chick flicks anyway, but now I really want some car chases and mayhem.

Dennis

Terri-Gene

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2005, 11:55:28 pm »
yes Dennis, despite how much one thinks they understand about the differences, it has to be experienced to be truely appreciated.

About the car chases and things of chaos, yes, testosterone does have that kind of effect on mentality.  I used to love cars and bikes.  I always thought that would always be a part of me, but I just don't feel that way anymore, though I still enjoy a good thrill once in a while.

We are all a product of experience and of course, despite our efforts to change old habits and actions, much of that will always hang in there.

I see it as a consious effort to shed ourselves of an entire life of habits, ideas and conceptions and learning again from scratch and our internal value systems how to deal with the world from a different perspective and a different point of view.  A true death and rebirth of a person in a spiritual and emotional sense.

Terri

Majik

Re: Hormones on Male thinking
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2005, 07:53:24 am »
I am pretty much all male at the moment and i have to agree with Amy.. i can't stand men they are such posturing idiots for the most part. My dixks bigger than yours etc. I would like nothing more than to be rid of the penile attachment i was born with. And have always felt that i would have rather been born a girl. Or should i say SHOULd habve been born a girl. I have felt this way as long as i can remember.

To be a woman physically as well as mentally... ohh what a dream come true that would be. But being married, well it makes it hard. i think were i in your postion the question of transition for me would be a no brainer

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