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Title: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Julia1996 on July 13, 2017, 07:46:49 PM
Hi everyone. I decided to make this thread because a lot of you are growing your hair out and aren't sure how to care for longer hair and because it's summer. I'm not sure why but I see a lot of fried and frizzed out hair during the summer. Maybe because people are in such a hurry to get out and do things they rush through drying and styling it. So here we go:


Shampoos. You totally don't need to buy expensive shampoo. Suave shampoo is dirt cheap and works just fine. Weather it's suave or an expensive salon brand all shampoo is just soap with a low PH. I have client's who swear by the salon brands we sell. They don't believe me that suave will do just as well. But that's ok. If you want to buy expensive shampoo that's cool.  But you don't have to. But don't use baby shampoo. I know it smells good and doesn't sting your eyes but it has a high ph that's not good for adult hair.  Conditioner helps make your hair easier to comb out but if you have dry or damaged hair use a intensive conditioner once a week. The heat and steam of the shower help it work a lot better.

NEVER use a brush on wet hair! I've seen people,  including my mom just rip a hairbrush through her wet hair. That will totally cause your hair to break and split. Use a WIDE tooth comb and do it gently. If you have tangles try getting them out with your fingers first. If your hair is long and you have a tangle ,hold the hair right above the tangle and then gently work it out. If you try to comb it out without holding onto the strand of hair you put stress on the entire strand. Hair will stretch a little but if you stretch it too hard it'll split all the way up.

The healthiest way to dry hair is to let it dry naturally.  But I know that's not always possible. You need to blow dry it in sections. Get a clip and gather it up like you're going to put it in a pony tail but leave a section of it right above your ears free. Once that section is dry make another one leaving the hair across the upper middle half of your head free. Finally let the rest of it down and dry it last. If you just dry it all at once by the time the under layers of your hair get dry the upper layers get heat damage. Always dry from the bottom of your head to the top and dry each section from the roots first.  You want to keep as much heat off the ends as possible to keep them from splitting. And despite the commercials those very expensive ionic hairdryers are no better than a $15 dollar dryer from Walmart. We don't use ionic dryers at work.

Be careful when you use a curling iron or flat iron. Dont hold your hair around the bareel of a curling iron or the plates of a flat iron and then just leave it there. That really damages hair. Count to 7 and release it.

If you color your hair at home apply it to your roots only and then apply it to the rest of your hair during the last 10 minutes of processing.  Hair that's already been colored just needs a little processing time to refresh. If you put the color on all your hair for the entire processing time it's going to damage it.

Home perms. BAD IDEA!!  If you really want a perm wait until you can afford to have it done at a salon. I've had many people come in with their hair fried and frizzed down the roots from home perms. I've also seen someone's hair break off at the roots from a home perm. Instant buzz cut, no clippers needed.

Don't ever use products for African American hair unless you are African American. Their hair is very different from Caucasian hair. Chemical relaxers are NOT for straightening caucasion hair. Many chemical relaxers have lye in them which will DISSOLVE caucasian hair and cause series chemical burns to the scalp if it's not protected before the relaxer is applied. Before using a relaxer you have to go through and put vaseline all over the scalp tiny section by section. Women of color also use a hot press comb to straighten their hair. This is also not for caucasian hair. It gets incredibly hot and will instantly singe off Caucasian hair.

To grow your hair out you sometimes have to lose some length. The only way to fix split ends is to cut them off. If you don't cut off the entire split end then it will just keep splitting. While you might gain some length if you don't cut them, you will just have long but totally frizzed out hair.

And for transguys, tell your stylist you want a male haircut. The same haircut can be different for a guy or a girl. Especially the outlining. If you get a short cut tell your stylist to make sure the outline is square. Female outlining is softer and rounded.

I hope this is helpful to you all.

Julia
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: jules968 on July 14, 2017, 12:13:21 AM
Thanks for this post. 


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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Lyric on July 14, 2017, 05:29:15 PM
Good idea for a thread, Julia. I've grown my hair out several times (from a couple of inches to a couple of feet). Ideally, you want to leave alone as much as possible. The less you do to your hair during a grow out, the better. Avoid excessive washing, heat, brushing and combing. Avoid hats, elastics and metal clips. Also, there's really no magic way to substantially increase your hair's growth rate. The best thing to do is to occupy your mind with other concerns for a few months. Soon enough you'll realize your hair is much longer.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Crazy_Emma on August 20, 2017, 07:57:50 PM
Thanks for making this post. I've been searching for these tips for a very long time... my hair always looks kinda crazy and all over the place... I'll try it out, this is pretty much any info i needed ^^
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Bari Jo on September 10, 2017, 02:07:04 PM
I just found this post too.  Thanks Julia.  I'm going to try and achieve the look from my avatar.  I do have a high forehead, but with a combover, maybe passable?  I'd love it if it was.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Lady Sarah on September 10, 2017, 09:45:04 PM
This is an interesting topic.

There was a time I dyed my hair black, and it grew half way down my back. I looked like a cross between Marilyn Manson, and Cher, because of my facial features and light skin. When I decided to start looking for a boyfriend, I let it go back to my original blond. That's when it would break off, and barely pass my shoulders anymore. I do miss it being long, but don't miss it getting caught in doors and stuff.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Jin on September 11, 2017, 02:56:37 PM
If you go to a professional shop for a haircut, as opposed to at home, be sure to tell them if you want to look like a girl or like a boy. Do NOT assume they will know by your clothes.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: antia212 on November 18, 2017, 05:00:36 PM
How long should I let it grow before I start going to a hairdresser to cut off split ends? I'm like a month into my last buzz cut (got it for a couple of interviews for school).

And what do you think about the castor/coconut oil treatment (twice a week)?

Thanks, Julia!


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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Julia1996 on November 18, 2017, 05:39:37 PM
Quote from: antia212 on November 18, 2017, 05:00:36 PM
How long should I let it grow before I start going to a hairdresser to cut off split ends? I'm like a month into my last buzz cut (got it for a couple of interviews for school).

And what do you think about the castor/coconut oil treatment (twice a week)?

Thanks, Julia!


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If you had a buzz cut a month ago then it will be a while before you need to start worrying about split ends. You don't need to worry about split ends until it's at least chin length. And then only if you notice split ends. Usually hair is almost shoulder length before you need to trim split ends. Coconut oil is a very good conditioner for hair.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: LizK on November 18, 2017, 06:14:35 PM
One of the big things I see many girls doing when they are trying to grow their hair out is over washing it. Once a week is plenty and maybe twice if you are really unhappy with how it feels. My understanding is that shampoo is to clean the scalp and conditioner is for the hair...Massaging your scalp promotes blood flow to the scalp which stimulates growth. As has already been said....you need to cut it to make it grow

Anyone with Thyroid issues should keep an eye on their medication levels and ensure they are taking the correct does to keep thyroxine levels at a therapeutic level....


Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: barbie on November 18, 2017, 06:58:15 PM
One widely-held belief is that air drying your hair keeps your locks healthy, but Dr Moore says it is actually more damaging than blow drying it.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/cambridge-university-hair-blow-dryer-13847971

barbie~~
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: antia212 on November 19, 2017, 04:56:11 PM
Quote from: ElizabethK on November 18, 2017, 06:14:35 PM
One of the big things I see many girls doing when they are trying to grow their hair out is over washing it. Once a week is plenty and maybe twice if you are really unhappy with how it feels. My understanding is that shampoo is to clean the scalp and conditioner is for the hair...Massaging your scalp promotes blood flow to the scalp which stimulates growth. As has already been said....you need to cut it to make it grow

Anyone with Thyroid issues should keep an eye on their medication levels and ensure they are taking the correct does to keep thyroxine levels at a therapeutic level....

What do you mean by "you need to cut it to make it grow"?


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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: big kim on November 19, 2017, 05:01:58 PM
I had a grown out DA slicked back with lots of gel while growing my hair out til it was long enough to tie back
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Julia1996 on November 19, 2017, 05:10:53 PM
Quote from: antia212 on November 19, 2017, 04:56:11 PM
What do you mean by "you need to cut it to make it grow"?


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It's actually more like you have to cut your hair when the ends split to have long healthy hair.
You have to cut off split ends. If you don't the ends will just keep splitting up the length of the hair. If that happens then you end up with frizzy hair that won't smooth down. If you keep the ends trimmed then you will have healthy hair.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Lady Lisandra on November 19, 2017, 06:23:28 PM
Good idea. It's hard to grow your hair when you don't even know how to take care of it.

I used to staighten my hair every day and now half of my hair length is severly damaged. I'd add that unless you want to waste tons of money in repairing your hair, keep it away from amoniac and heat as much as possible.

Also, use oil. A lot of oil. Olive,  coconut and aragan oil do wonders to your hair.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Chloe2017 on November 23, 2017, 02:35:53 AM
I once grew my hair out way before my self discovery it was the full length of my back. Long, straight, natural. I expect it will be that way again in time. As for management. Hair gets dirty but doesn't need a shampoo every day. Condition after every shampoo. Avoid permanent dyes, bleach, harsh chemicals, etc... trim every few months to clear out the split ends. Simple but effective. That's my hair at least.


Chloe
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Cenna on November 25, 2017, 03:40:07 AM
This is the advice I wish I had 5 years ago when I started growing my hair out...... Dangit.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: EvaMarie on November 25, 2017, 08:45:51 AM
I would also add for girls with naturally curly hair that you need to read the bottles a big more than those with straight hair. Sulfate and silicone will destroy your hair. A lot of times conditioner has silicone in it, which builds up in your hair and needs to be washed out with sulfate, which are found in shampoo. Its a vicious cycle that destroys curly hair. If you want to fix the problem was one last time with a sulfate shampoo then throw it away. This ensures the buildup is dealt with then switch to a conditioner that says "no silicone, sulfate, minerals, dyes, or parabans" I've had good luck with Maui Moisture. From there always go with a detangler and fingers. I use Cowboy Magic. Its meant for horses but does a great job on my hair. I also use a leave in conditioner from shea moisture, again, finding the one without sulafates. I went from "scarecrow hair" as my girlfriend called it to a relatively normal look. Waiting for the color damaged hair to grow out. I suffer from an abundance of hairdressers who have no clue how to cut curly hair though. If you have curly hair, either guys or girls, look up the "curly girl method."
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Prada on November 28, 2017, 09:03:04 AM
Thanks for your informative thread. It's really helpful for me.

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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: SarahMarie1987 on November 28, 2017, 08:10:13 PM
I am in the process of letting my hair grow out. It is wavy, thick, and curly hair.

Right now it is about to my neck in the back, but almost covering my ears on the sides. I shampoo with Argon oil (it is a blue bottle) I would say about 3 times a week. Also been conditioning it. I like that.

Still trying to figure out how to style it. Normally, I just comb it back and let it air dry for work (not out as Sarah with them yet). So it looks kind of crazy. But I was thinking of trying to put it up a bit. Or at least playing around with that when I have free time.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Thea on December 22, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
I started growing my hair out in 2003. The length got to just past my shoulders in a couple of years and then just stopped. My hair is rather fine and I figured it had something to do with split ends so I get it trimmed once or twice a year. It always grows back to the same length but no longer. It's been the same length for over ten years.
I'm very careful about how I comb it out and gentle out all tangles. I put coconut oil on it every four to six weeks. I don't dye it or use heat on it ever. I usually go two days between washings with conditioner, using shampoo only once a week.
I'm really getting frustrated that it seems to have hit a plateau as far as length goes. I would really like it to be down to at least my lower back, maybe even longer. Am I doing something to defeat my goal? Is there something else I should be doing?
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Allison S on December 22, 2017, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: Thea on December 22, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
I started growing my hair out in 2003. The length got to just past my shoulders in a couple of years and then just stopped. My hair is rather fine and I figured it had something to do with split ends so I get it trimmed once or twice a year. It always grows back to the same length but no longer. It's been the same length for over ten years.
I'm very careful about how I comb it out and gentle out all tangles. I put coconut oil on it every four to six weeks. I don't dye it or use heat on it ever. I usually go two days between washings with conditioner, using shampoo only once a week.
I'm really getting frustrated that it seems to have hit a plateau as far as length goes. I would really like it to be down to at least my lower back, maybe even longer. Am I doing something to defeat my goal? Is there something else I should be doing?
Have you tried biotin? It's a supplement you could buy at any pharmacy that's supposed to help hair grow. It does take a while though but worth a try maybe

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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Roll on December 22, 2017, 10:29:56 PM
Quote from: dist123 on December 22, 2017, 09:47:10 PM
Have you tried biotin? It's a supplement you could buy at any pharmacy that's supposed to help hair grow. It does take a while though but worth a try maybe

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You can pick it up cheap off amazon too. I've been using it, and while I can't say what is biotin and what is my minox/finast when it comes to hair stuff, I can at least say it is having some effect on my body in general because my nails (which it also works for) are now ridiculously strong. I used to bite them off easily when I chewed my nails, now I can't. So it definitely does something at least. Based on that and its price, definitely worth using.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: LizK on December 23, 2017, 01:22:01 AM
I have tried a few of the supplements and started taking biontin on its own a few weeks ago and I have noticed the chipping has stopped already...that could also be me taking a bit more care.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: amandam on December 23, 2017, 02:24:40 AM
Ovation Cell Therapy works but is expensive. Here's a secret. Megatek is the same thing. My wife uses it. It has done a great deal for her hair.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: DawnOday on December 23, 2017, 11:01:51 AM
To improve hair 100% try some natural henna. If you want red highlight or make your hair darker there are color formulas. Hindus have been using henna forever. Improves strength and manageability. Use Argon oil to put shine in your hair. 100% Natural Henna Hair Dyes and Herbals, No Chemicals (no PPD, no Ammonia, no peroxide, no sulfates, no metals). They do take a while to apply but results last 6-8 weeks.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Deborah on December 23, 2017, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: Thea on December 22, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
I'm really getting frustrated that it seems to have hit a plateau as far as length goes. I would really like it to be down to at least my lower back, maybe even longer. Am I doing something to defeat my goal? Is there something else I should be doing?
Hair length is genetically determined by how long the growth phase lasts.  It may be that right now yours is as long as it's going to be.



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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Thea on December 23, 2017, 06:25:56 PM
Thanks everybody for your advice and feedback.

Quote from: Deborah on December 23, 2017, 11:50:11 AM
Hair length is genetically determined by how long the growth phase lasts.  It may be that right now yours is as long as it's going to be.

La, la, la, la, I can't hear you!  :icon_lalala:
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: DawnOday on December 23, 2017, 06:33:13 PM
Another thing I hear is really good especially if losing hair, is rinsing with Apple Cider Vinegar. The acid is supposed to clear out the sebum and allow hair to regrow. Also heard castor oil on bald spots will help regrow hair. Using on eyelashes keep them from falling out and makes them grow.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Lily Rose on February 22, 2018, 08:17:58 AM
thank you for this thread, have a questions.

is moose bad for hair?
my hair is very thin and does what it wants to. however since it is so thin i am scared to do anything that will damage it.  ???

Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Sonja on March 08, 2018, 03:15:37 AM
Quote from: Lily Rose on February 22, 2018, 08:17:58 AM
thank you for this thread, have a questions.

is moose bad for hair?
my hair is very thin and does what it wants to. however since it is so thin i am scared to do anything that will damage it.  ???
I think you mean mousse , I'm not qualified to know what a moose would do to a persons hair - I hate to think...
Have you looked into using Nioxin to keep your scalp in good condition?

Sonja.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Julia1996 on March 08, 2018, 07:47:08 AM
Quote from: Lily Rose on February 22, 2018, 08:17:58 AM
thank you for this thread, have a questions.

is moose bad for hair?
my hair is very thin and does what it wants to. however since it is so thin i am scared to do anything that will damage it.  ???

No mousse isn't really bad for your hair as long as you keep your hair conditioned.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Lucca on May 15, 2018, 06:31:59 PM
I'm trying to grow my hair out, I have a couple questions.

First, the OP says that cheap shampoos are fine, but I've read that there a certain ingredients you're supposed to avoid if you want to have healthy hair, and the cheap shampoos I've looked at have some of them. Is this true? Do I need to worry about looking at the ingredients when buying shampoo and conditioner?

Also, once my hair reaches a certain length, I constantly end up fiddling with it to the extent that I'll get hand cramps. I'm sure it looks odd to onlookers, and it can't be good for my hair, either. How do I get myself to stop absent-mindedly doing this?
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on May 15, 2018, 08:38:13 PM
Quote from: Lucca on May 15, 2018, 06:31:59 PM
I'm trying to grow my hair out, I have a couple questions.

First, the OP says that cheap shampoos are fine, but I've read that there a certain ingredients you're supposed to avoid if you want to have healthy hair, and the cheap shampoos I've looked at have some of them. Is this true? Do I need to worry about looking at the ingredients when buying shampoo and conditioner?

Also, once my hair reaches a certain length, I constantly end up fiddling with it to the extent that I'll get hand cramps. I'm sure it looks odd to onlookers, and it can't be good for my hair, either. How do I get myself to stop absent-mindedly doing this?
Shampoo and conditioner without sulfates is what hairstylists usually recommend.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Lyric on May 19, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
There seems to be an endless debate on what ingredients are good or bad for the hair. The only solid fact I've extracted from it, though, is that for the most part the less you do to your hair the better off it will be.

You've probably heard that the hair from most human hair wigs comes from women in third world countries. The reason for this is not so much that they need the extra money, but that those women grow their hair long without using as many chemical products. Women in the first world over wash, condition, spray, mousse and whatever-- not to mention coloring and perming. If you want beautiful long hair, the very best thing you can do is to leave it alone as much as possible. If you can, only shampoo once a week or so and be very gentle with it all the time.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on May 19, 2018, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: Lyric on May 19, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
There seems to be an endless debate on what ingredients are good or bad for the hair. The only solid fact I've extracted from it, though, is that for the most part the less you do to your hair the better off it will be.

You've probably heard that the hair from most human hair wigs comes from women in third world countries. The reason for this is not so much that they need the extra money, but that those women grow their hair long without using as many chemical products. Women in the first world over wash, condition, spray, mousse and whatever-- not to mention coloring and perming. If you want beautiful long hair, the very best thing you can do is to leave it alone as much as possible. If you can, only shampoo once a week or so and be very gentle with it all the time.
How long you can go without washing your hair is somewhat dependent on your hair texture; I have fine hair, so I have to wash it every other day, if I were to wash my hair only once per week it would be extremely oily. And you can use color/highlights on your hair and it will still be healthy and beautiful, you just don't want it to be over processed, so it is best to go to a talented stylist, and get your hair properly done.  And regular trims help to maintain healthy hair by getting rid of split ends before they can do more damage; regular trims also gives your hair that feminine and gorgeous well kept look that is so appealing.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: barbie on May 19, 2018, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Lyric on May 19, 2018, 10:45:30 AM
There seems to be an endless debate on what ingredients are good or bad for the hair. The only solid fact I've extracted from it, though, is that for the most part the less you do to your hair the better off it will be.

You've probably heard that the hair from most human hair wigs comes from women in third world countries. The reason for this is not so much that they need the extra money, but that those women grow their hair long without using as many chemical products. Women in the first world over wash, condition, spray, mousse and whatever-- not to mention coloring and perming. If you want beautiful long hair, the very best thing you can do is to leave it alone as much as possible. If you can, only shampoo once a week or so and be very gentle with it all the time.

Yes. The same is true for facial products. Less is better.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Lucca on May 20, 2018, 05:01:39 PM
For the last couple of months, I've been using conditioner every day and using shampoo plus conditioner every third day. I've also been taking care to not be rough with it when drying and to only use lukewarm/cold water to rinse it. I was using very cheap, basic Sauve shampoo and conditioner, but I decided to try to something slightly more expensive than the cheapest one the store had, so I bought some slightly higher-tier Suave stuff that's supposed to make your hair look "smooth" to try it out. I used it last night and my hair looks and feel great today, so I think I'll keep trying it for awhile.

I'm probably not going to worry too much about ingredients, I can't seem to find anything that's entirely lacking in all the ingredients that are supposedly bad. I figure there's probably nothing in any of them that would lead to disastrous results.

The biggest difference is that regardless of the exact product used, my hair has looked and felt a lot nicer than when I was shampooing every day. That makes a big difference, even for short hair.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Amaki on May 31, 2018, 09:57:22 PM
ok so my stylist wont really get back to me (she must be busy so Im trying not to pester her) (btw shes also my little sister so its kind of cool) anyway I had a few questions, so the few times I did let my hair grow when I was younger it kind of afro'ed for lack of better word, is there something I can do to make sure it grows down and not out (or w/e lol). I also am having a small issue of hair thinning I have a few spots up front that are thinner then others, is there something more I can be doing or do I need to look into something like rogaine or w/e I really dont want to spend money if I dont have to. I did use tree tee oil my mom swears by it but im not sure it helping (plus I really dont like the smell).
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: RickiM on June 06, 2018, 10:53:38 AM
This is an excellent thread. My hair tends to get quite wavy and even somewhat curly when there's even a hint of humidity. I like the wavyness in moderation though it's really difficult to manage at times ugh. I agree that everyone has slightly different texture of hair thus slightly different needs when it comes to taking care of it. Typically though it seems like it's important to not overdo it with shampooing, conditioning, colouring, etcetera. Thanks again for the excellent thread.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: NC_Sarah on July 06, 2018, 11:01:50 AM
Thanks for sharing, I have long hair and with maddening curls, its very fried and frizzy which annoys me immensely. I am going to see a decent stylist and take care of it more, I have learned a lot more recently on what I was doing wrong and going for healthy first over a look.

I am starting to embrace the curls and get the frizz under control, living in the south means I tend to hibernate during the summer months and only have good hair days in winter :-)

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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on July 06, 2018, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: NC_Rose on July 06, 2018, 11:01:50 AM
Thanks for sharing, I have long hair and with maddening curls, its very fried and frizzy which annoys me immensely. I am going to see a decent stylist and take care of it more, I have learned a lot more recently on what I was doing wrong and going for healthy first over a look.

I am starting to embrace the curls and get the frizz under control, living in the south means I tend to hibernate during the summer months and only have good hair days in winter :-)

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I had some damage from highlights; my stylist recommended a shampoo enriched with proteins, and it helps a lot; I also go longer between highlight treatments, and that has been helping also.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: NC_Sarah on July 06, 2018, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: MissyMay2.0 on July 06, 2018, 12:30:22 PM
I had some damage from highlights; my stylist recommended a shampoo enriched with proteins, and it helped a lot; I also go longer between highlight treatments, and that has been helping also.
Thanks, I am looking at colouring and switch between getting something outrageous or more natural, I was looking into coconut oil for moisture or egg whites for protein I haven't found a magical product that works for me yet and think old school may be the way to go. I haven't coloured my hair since I was a punk into Billy Idol and Bowie back in the day. Luckily no photos exist of those times (shudder)

I love a more natural look, still trying to find a feminine style which suits my hair type and the shape of my face.

Thanks for sharing! I'll definitely give it a try.

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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on July 06, 2018, 12:50:28 PM
Quote from: NC_Rose on July 06, 2018, 12:38:08 PM
Thanks, I am looking at colouring and switch between getting something outrageous or more natural, I was looking into coconut oil for moisture or egg whites for protein I haven't found a magical product that works for me yet and think old school may be the way to go. I haven't coloured my hair since I was a punk into Billy Idol and Bowie back in the day. Luckily no photos exist of those times (shudder)

I love a more natural look, still trying to find a feminine style which suits my hair type and the shape of my face.

Thanks for sharing! I'll definitely give it a try.

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Here's a link for the shampoo I use http://www.beautycarechoices.com/alfaparf/semi-di-lino-reconstruction-reparative-shampoo
I'm not affiliated with the company in any way; I just like it! I wash my hair every other day (you only need to use a small amount) and the medium size bottle lasts a couple of months for me.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: NC_Sarah on July 06, 2018, 12:51:38 PM
Thanks!

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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: MissyMay2.0 on July 06, 2018, 12:54:29 PM
Quote from: NC_Rose on July 06, 2018, 12:51:38 PM
Thanks!

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You're welcome 😊
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: big kim on July 06, 2018, 04:21:06 PM
My natural colour, haven't coloured for 3 years. Never use hair dryers (unless I have my 2 monthly  trim). My hair stops at this length & wont  go any longer, nor will my  sisters (2 years younger). I'm 61 in October https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31046354_621161471568380_2876802617080545280_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=6778bec6b6b4e6dc454a18dacb2e46b3&oe=5BDA9AE8
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: MaryT on July 06, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
Quote from: big kim on July 06, 2018, 04:21:06 PM
My natural colour, haven't coloured for 3 years. Never use hair dryers (unless I have my 2 monthly  trim). My hair stops at this length & wont  go any longer, nor will my  sisters (2 years younger). I'm 61 in October https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31046354_621161471568380_2876802617080545280_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=6778bec6b6b4e6dc454a18dacb2e46b3&oe=5BDA9AE8

You look really nice.  If I looked like that, I wouldn't have a cartoon avatar. 

This is a really useful topic.  Thanks to Julia and all contributors.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: LizK on July 07, 2018, 07:47:13 PM
Quote from: big kim on July 06, 2018, 04:21:06 PM
My natural colour, haven't coloured for 3 years. Never use hair dryers (unless I have my 2 monthly  trim). My hair stops at this length & wont  go any longer, nor will my  sisters (2 years younger). I'm 61 in October https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31046354_621161471568380_2876802617080545280_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=6778bec6b6b4e6dc454a18dacb2e46b3&oe=5BDA9AE8

Love your hair and the colour.!!
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: big kim on July 08, 2018, 01:35:34 AM
Thanks, you both need to go to specsavers! Started going gray at 18! Ican't get the hang of posting pix, tried many times.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: MaryT on July 08, 2018, 10:03:02 AM
Quote from: big kim on July 08, 2018, 01:35:34 AM
... Ican't get the hang of posting pix, tried many times.

If you are referring to the photo in the url, a preview showed that putting [*img] at the start of the url and [*/img] at the end, WITHOUT the asterisks, would display your photo on the forum.  (I used asterisks because markup language doesn't display on the forum.)

Alternatively, you could quote from a post that displays a photo and replace the url with your own.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Zoe_Kay on August 18, 2018, 01:37:27 AM
I love this thread so much! :)
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: GingerVicki on August 18, 2018, 08:51:29 AM
idk if this was mentioned or not, but conditioner for color treated hair is ultra conditioning.  ;D
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Donica on August 18, 2018, 09:40:04 AM
Thanks so much for this thread Julia!!! I started one year ago to grow my hair out. My current avatar is the most recent picture of my hair. It seems to be growing as slow as HRT does it's thing lol. I had very long hair (down to my lower back) back in my day but that was guy hair. Now I want it to be as feminine as possible. I had no idea I was washing my hair too much (every other day). I'm also not sure about using the 2 in 1 Head and Shoulders shampoo/conditioner. I think I need to start using separate shampoo and conditioners. One thing I did know was to use a wide-tooth comb.  It just makes it easer to work out the tangles.

I was wondering if we could also talk about hair styles. Maybe like bangs verses long hair in front, or? My first avatar I was wearing a wig with bangs. I liked how it helped hide my less than feminine facial features. I'm hoping HRT will help with that in the future. But for now, any thoughts?

Hugs,
Donica.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: ChrissyRyan on August 18, 2018, 09:44:56 AM
My stylist said that it is not good to wash hair too often, just keep it clean.
It is hard to over condition hair though.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: GingerVicki on August 18, 2018, 09:59:02 AM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on August 18, 2018, 09:44:56 AM
My stylist said that it is not good to wash hair too often, just keep it clean.
It is hard to over condition hair though.

Chrissy

Conditioner is a mild cleanser and if someone does not use a lot of products it is possible to skip the shampoo day and replace it with conditioning instead. I also condition my hair at the start of my shower and rinse it at the very end. I heard that letting the conditioner absorb really helps. I know that it helped me. I don't know if it helps hair to grow, but it certainly helps with split ends.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: I_Am_Hazel on August 18, 2018, 10:01:16 AM
Adding my thank-you to this post, that was very informative!
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Allison S on August 18, 2018, 10:28:51 AM


Quote from: Donica on August 18, 2018, 09:40:04 AM

Hi, I know you're not asking me specifically and I'm probably not very good at giving advice.. But I think bangs can be nice, especially to feminize someone's face.
I can't have bangs because my nose is on the "larger" and definitely more crooked side. Bangs don't work for me at all but I can do a part with shorter layers on the side (I prefer the shortest layer to be well past my jaw line if possible...)
So no bangs for me, but it can work very well for others!




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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Donica on August 18, 2018, 10:57:25 AM
Quote from: gingerViktorKay on August 18, 2018, 09:59:02 AM
Conditioner is a mild cleanser and if someone does not use a lot of products it is possible to skip the shampoo day and replace it with conditioning instead. I also condition my hair at the start of my shower and rinse it at the very end. I heard that letting the conditioner absorb really helps. I know that it helped me. I don't know if it helps hair to grow, but it certainly helps with split ends.

Thank you Ginger! I didn't know that conditioner was a mild cleanser. I'm going to switch over to Suave shampoo and conditioner as Julia suggested, and follow your suggestion.

Thanks for your input Allison. I think I'm going let it grow out first. Then if I don't like it, I will cut the bangs. Hopefully I'll like that? If not, well, It will grow back  ::).

Hugs,
Donica.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Julia1996 on August 18, 2018, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: Donica on August 18, 2018, 09:40:04 AM
Thanks so much for this thread Julia!!! I started one year ago to grow my hair out. My current avatar is the most recent picture of my hair. It seems to be growing as slow as HRT does it's thing lol. I had very long hair (down to my lower back) back in my day but that was guy hair. Now I want it to be as feminine as possible. I had no idea I was washing my hair too much (every other day). I'm also not sure about using the 2 in 1 Head and Shoulders shampoo/conditioner. I think I need to start using separate shampoo and conditioners. One thing I did know was to use a wide-tooth comb.  It just makes it easer to work out the tangles.

I was wondering if we could also talk about hair styles. Maybe like bangs verses long hair in front, or? My first avatar I was wearing a wig with bangs. I liked how it helped hide my less than feminine facial features. I'm hoping HRT will help with that in the future. But for now, any thoughts?

Hugs,
Donica.

I'm not a fan of the 2 in 1 shampoos with conditioners. In my opinion a separate conditioner will give you better results. If your hair is healthy and not damaged a once a month intensive conditioner is fine. If your hair is damaged I suggest a once a week intensive conditioner. Steam allows the conditioner to penetrate better. At work we have steamers. They look like hair dryers but they produce steam instead of air. The steam in your shower is a good alternative. I leave people under the steamer for 20 minutes but I doubt you want to stand in your shower that long. Just leave your intensive conditioner on while you shave your legs, etc and that will work.

Bangs can definitely soften your features. I'm not a fan of straight bangs. That is bangs cut in a straight line. In my opinion bangs that frame your face are much softer. That's how I wear my bangs. The shortest point starts in the middle of your forehead and the length increases on each side and the end result is bangs that frame your face. I don't recommend cutting your own bangs. It seems easy enough but it can go quite wrong. For those who insist on trying to cut their own bangs I will tell you that where people usually make a huge mistake is holding their bangs taught when they cut them. Bangs will naturally snap back and you will find them shorter than you intended. Make sure your bangs are relaxed when you cut them and you will get the length you wanted instead of looking like moe from the three stooges.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: TonyaW on August 18, 2018, 01:08:39 PM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on August 18, 2018, 09:44:56 AM
My stylist said that it is not good to wash hair too often, just keep it clean.
It is hard to over condition hair though.

Chrissy
Quote from: gingerViktorKay on August 18, 2018, 09:59:02 AM
Conditioner is a mild cleanser and if someone does not use a lot of products it is possible to skip the shampoo day and replace it with conditioning instead. I also condition my hair at the start of my shower and rinse it at the very end. I heard that letting the conditioner absorb really helps. I know that it helped me. I don't know if it helps hair to grow, but it certainly helps with split ends.
I've been using a cleansing conditioner almost exclusively for a couple months now after I finally found one that's not $25 a pop. Its by Pantene,  but it was hard to find in a store.  I'll use a shampoo if I feel its really dirty bit otherwise haven't.
My hair seems fuller since then.

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Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Donica on September 08, 2018, 10:21:37 AM
What's your favorite hair spray? I know it better to use products like mousse to hold hair in place. But some days, I'm either in a hurry or I'm just lazy. I want a good hair spray for a quick getaway. Just comb, spray and done. Out the door I go.

Donica.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: ChrissyRyan on September 08, 2018, 05:45:50 PM
Quote from: Donica on September 08, 2018, 10:21:37 AM
What's your favorite hair spray? I know it better to use products like mousse to hold hair in place. But some days, I'm either in a hurry or I'm just lazy. I want a good hair spray for a quick getaway. Just comb, spray and done. Out the door I go.

Donica.


I like the TRESemme brand Expert Selection Heat Activated Treatment Keratin Smooth Seven Day Smooth System pump spray.  Best with flat iron, keeps hair straight longer also.

Chrissy

Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Chloe on September 09, 2018, 05:52:31 AM
Quote from: TonyaW on August 18, 2018, 01:08:39 PM. . . finally found one that's not $25 a pop. Its by Pantene

        Tonya have also rediscovered Pantene's Moisturizing shampoo formula used to use it years ago, when sold in round, standup colored bottle, as it doesn't strip out all the oil from my otherwise very dry and fine, hard to detangle hair! Have found coloring one's hair also helps to make it stronger, more manageable suppose it's time to let all those grays go again!

Kroger & Publix have it (and sometimes Dollar General!) ps: do ya think a hair-stylist would think me NUTS if I brought them my listed cartoon avatar and told 'em "yes, I'd like it cut just like that?"
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Julia1996 on September 09, 2018, 07:28:58 AM
Quote from: Kiera on September 09, 2018, 05:52:31 AM
        Tonya have also rediscovered Pantene's Moisturizing shampoo formula used to use it years ago, when sold in round, standup colored bottle, as it doesn't strip out all the oil from my otherwise very dry and fine, hard to detangle hair! Have found coloring one's hair also helps to make it stronger, more manageable suppose it's time to let all those grays go again!

Kroger & Publix have it (and sometimes Dollar General!) ps: do ya think a hair-stylist would think me NUTS if I brought them my listed cartoon avatar and told 'em "yes, I'd like it cut just like that?"

I doubt they would think you're nuts. I've had people bring me all manor of pictures. I have yet to have someone bring me a cartoon picture but I did once have a woman bring me a sketch of the cut she wanted. She was an artist and she thought it would be easier to just sketch what she wanted than to try to describe it.
Title: Re: Taking care of your hair and growing it out.
Post by: Chloe on September 09, 2018, 08:56:42 AM
Quote from: Julia1996 on September 09, 2018, 07:28:58 AMI have yet . . .

     OMG I forgot! If were to magically re-appear in Denver one day would I need an appointment? 'Ex' says knows of a 'gay' hairdresser in nearby PTC Georgia but then again, been procrastinating, still need more length to work with . . .  ???

Besides, despite what she says, Am Not 'Gay' . . .