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Title: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on October 10, 2013, 03:09:25 PM
Just wondering if anyone has tried out the new Model D?
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: CursedFireDean on October 10, 2013, 03:25:09 PM
I've seen it before and I'd be interested to hear about it too
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on October 10, 2013, 10:38:59 PM
Yeah really wanting to buy this, it looks promising. Hoping to hear some feedback
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: Nygeel on October 11, 2013, 02:10:06 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how it would work in a harness, and what harness to use. Also, there's no pictures of what the back hole part looks like. I'm skeptical but optimistic. Sadly, they don't have a color for me...
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: Proton on October 11, 2013, 07:36:55 AM
It seems like a good alternative for the peecock, for those of us who aren't interested in the play function, but it seems like it wouldn't be as easy to reposition during the day...

They have a harness designed specifically for the model D on their etsy shop.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: rexyrex on October 11, 2013, 10:14:12 AM
There is a pic of the back hole. Looks kinda bluky but they seem to have a little good reviews there.  :-\ but be interested to know more reviews on anyone who has used it.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on October 11, 2013, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: Nygeel on October 11, 2013, 02:10:06 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how it would work in a harness, and what harness to use. Also, there's no pictures of what the back hole part looks like. I'm skeptical but optimistic. Sadly, they don't have a color for me...

They have a video showing it. I believe it's on youtube
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on October 11, 2013, 01:30:15 PM
Quote from: rexyrex on October 11, 2013, 10:14:12 AM
There is a pic of the back hole. Looks kinda bluky but they seem to have a little good reviews there.  :-\ but be interested to know more reviews on anyone who has used it.

Where are the reviews that you have read?
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: rexyrex on October 11, 2013, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: G on October 11, 2013, 11:19:42 AM
They have a video showing it. I believe it's on youtube
There is one utube video on how to use that stp.

Quote from: G on October 11, 2013, 01:30:15 PM
Where are the reviews that you have read?

On etsy site, not a lot of information or review it just a quick short ones.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: xaphroditesxapprenticex on October 12, 2013, 01:42:36 AM
Hi there-
I own the model d stp and can give a few notes on it.
This stp works pretty good. I personally like the way their original one works better, but this one works better for daily packing. In order to wear it with a harness you would have to have a special harness which holds the balls back, like a home made one or like the one they sell.
The stp itself actually makes a decent packer unlike its predecessor. It needs some practice but once you practice some, it should work just fine.
I still far prefer the new peecock, but if youve got a lower budget, something liek this or the TSW STP should work just as well with some practice.
-Alex
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on October 12, 2013, 02:00:18 AM
Quote from: xaphroditesxapprenticex on October 12, 2013, 01:42:36 AM
Hi there-
I own the model d stp and can give a few notes on it.
This stp works pretty good. I personally like the way their original one works better, but this one works better for daily packing. In order to wear it with a harness you would have to have a special harness which holds the balls back, like a home made one or like the one they sell.
The stp itself actually makes a decent packer unlike its predecessor. It needs some practice but once you practice some, it should work just fine.
I still far prefer the new peecock, but if youve got a lower budget, something liek this or the TSW STP should work just as well with some practice.
-Alex

How firm is the area that actually touches you? Does it collapse easily?
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: xaphroditesxapprenticex on October 13, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
Quote from: G on October 12, 2013, 02:00:18 AM
How firm is the area that actually touches you? Does it collapse easily?
No it does not collapse easy. It is still pretty soft silicone, but it is not as thin as some STPs like the Fenis or the Peecock. It has a uniform amount of firmness.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: jrodd72 on October 15, 2013, 05:31:40 AM
I bought the new model d a couple of weeks ago with the harness.  I was successful on the 2nd try of using it. I've bought and made several devices over the years. This one works really well for me. The harness works fine but after the 1st day of wearing it the balls rubbed the hair on my legs so I tried just putting it in a jock strap.  Works great no problems. I wear it all day and it's very comfortable.  Most that I've tried aren't comfortable or I can't use them because of the growth from T. If anybody has any questions I'd be happy to try and answer them
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on October 15, 2013, 11:54:53 AM
Quote from: jrodd72 on October 15, 2013, 05:31:40 AM
I bought the new model d a couple of weeks ago with the harness.  I was successful on the 2nd try of using it. I've bought and made several devices over the years. This one works really well for me. The harness works fine but after the 1st day of wearing it the balls rubbed the hair on my legs so I tried just putting it in a jock strap.  Works great no problems. I wear it all day and it's very comfortable.  Most that I've tried aren't comfortable or I can't use them because of the growth from T. If anybody has any questions I'd be happy to try and answer them

I sent you a pm but just realized you only have 2 posts. So I'll just ask you here. How confident are you with the model D? Have you used it in public yet?
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: jrodd72 on October 15, 2013, 12:57:01 PM
The look of it will not pass if someone is staring. It's only about 3 in. so it doesn't stick out past my pants very far. I use the urinal with no problems. I wouldn't use the "horse troth" at the football stadium.  I've had no leaks since the first time using it. Unzip my fly pull it out and do my business. I'm not sure if this answered your question
Title: Number one Laboratory
Post by: LiamG on January 13, 2014, 08:29:26 PM
I will go ahead and chime in here:

The model D was my first STP - I haven't quite figured out how the medicine spoon would work and this one looked safe enough to test out in public.

After a couple of tests - success!!!

I used it for about a month before i accidentally flushed it down the toilet at work (damn auto flush toilet censors!).

In firmness it was medium hard, it was too hard to pass a grab test, but I liked how firm it was. It was not too heavy or bulky as I first thought. I wore it with boxer briefs very comfortably (I hate harnesses).

I will say: that was my first stp and I never thought to ask, are these cup stp's supposed to create the seal outside the labia majora? Or inside?

I used mine inside. Which might have made it harder to use.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: transmadness on February 03, 2014, 09:18:14 PM
I have had the Model D for several months now. I purchased the harness with it. It's the third STP device I've had, and by far the best. It's a little bit firmer than others, which makes it so it doesn't collapse on itself and holds the funnel in place so there's no back flow. I've never had a problem with it. It's all in technique. You just have to learn how to pee without letting it come out forcefully and quickly.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: Tonic on May 31, 2014, 12:19:48 AM
I'll add my $0.02 here, since I just bought this without much information prior.

This is a nice product, first of all. It does exactly as it describes, and probably a bit easier than some other products. I went with this one specifically because I have a job working out in the wilderness all day with just guys and no restroom. My options are limited to trees or the nearest boulder. Medicine spoon models have always been iffy for me, and the amount of adjusting they take would have honestly just looked weird within eyeshot of 9 other guys, even from behind. Some of the other funnel types were either very expensive, or also looked like they needed a bit of adjusting before doing your business, and the reservoir openings on some of them looked a little sketchy...not as much of an exact science, if that makes any sense.

I'm going to do my best to describe this, as the photos of the product didn't make a whole lot of sense to me initially, and I imagine I'm not the only one:

This is made of semi-firm silicone. It's not squishy like in a cyber-skin packer, and could not pass a "grope test." The balls and shaft point almost straight down from your body, at just a bit of an angle. It's not super-rigid, but I could probably best compare it to the firmness of a rubber spatula. The inside of the shaft is pretty hollow, and it can easily bend, however, the biggest problem I've run into is that it does not bend easily enough for underwear to keep it from protruding. As it points at a downward angle, standing up, it almost isn't visible at all, however, I have to be careful how I sit down. Between the material making the shaft solid enough, and and the fact that the balls are pretty solid and protruding themselves, if I wear anything other than baggy jeans and just sit down casually with knees apart, I instantly look very excited, and at a kind of unnatural angle. To remedy this, I wear baggier pants with a crotch that sits lower than I usually would, and tend to pull the legs of my pants down just a bit as I'm sitting to prevent any bunching in the crotch/hips, which would make it more obvious. It also presents a problem with crouching and bending at awkward angles, which I have to do at work a lot.

The other thing that has taken some getting used to is that the reservoir is made to sit "in place" pretty much all the time. This is a bit awkward, especially since at work I do a lot of bending/lifting/digging/swinging a pick axe, etc, and it can end up at some really uncomfortable angles from time to time, though usually it only takes a quick, inconspicuous grab to "reset" it.

However!

Given that I don't have close to $200 to spend on one of these, I'm left with very few choices, and I drink a lot of water at work, and consequently have to pee sometimes.

The awesome things about this product:

It does sit "in place" pretty much all the time. That's why I bought it. I can walk over to the nearest tree, whip it out, and just go, with little to no adjusting, looking totally natural to anyone who might glimpse my way (in my line of work I don't really have to worry about guys peeking or seeing it from anything other than a good distance). It's ready to go at a moment's notice. The fact that it's fairly solid prevents it from folding, collapsing, or going anywhere that would require adjusting when I just don't have the time or place to do so most of the day. I'll gladly take being a little uncomfortable over being seen awkwardly sticking both hands in my pants to mess with something every time I have to pee.

I did skip the packing strap as it's made out of vinyl and I'm hot and sweaty enough all day as it is. I modified a jock strap to hold it (which is very comfortable - I can provide instructions if you'd like), and bought a few pairs of athletic-fit boxer briefs. These help to hold it in place as much as possible, and also to kind of cup it so that it feels like it chaffs a little less (silicone coming out of your crotch does tend to wear on your thighs after a day of hiking). I use a tank top undershirt, as they're pretty long, just in case the harness starts to hike up in the back so it will stay invisible, though I haven't had this problem so far.

I've found that the trick to actually using it is 2-fold:

1. You do place it around the outer area of your genitals. While you don't need to line the shaft right up with your urethra (which would be very awkward), it does help to act more like your trying to pee straight into the shaft...as in, don't just try to pee into the reservoir and hope it catches all of it. The shaft should not be out over your pubic bone, but rather under it, just a little. It needs to be placed low enough to feel like you are peeing through the shaft. This is why it does not have any extra material above the shaft. I hope that makes sense.
2. Since you're not actually lining the shaft up with your urethra and the reservoir is there for a reason, arch your back and try to make sure the reservoir is flowing downwards. After experimenting with the faucet (and since the whole shaft is hollow ending in a slit - it's not just a small tube) it's pretty obvious that it should actually catch whatever you can dish out unless the reservoir starts to tip back at a level or backward angle. That's when it starts leaking out the back. Aim your pelvis down, pee low, don't try to arc your stream too much...no need to be showy. A lot of guys straddle the urinal/toilet a little anyway. Just hold it where it hangs naturally and go like you were peeing on the floor a foot or less in front of you - you'll be more successful and look more casual.

I can answer questions If I'm not making sense. Good luck!
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: Bombadil on June 06, 2014, 11:08:31 PM
Tonic gave an awesome description. I'll add in a bit of my own experience.

Don't waste your money on the packing strap. I tried it and as well as being hot, it quickly twisted. Converting a jock strap or even a pair of briefs works better.

For me, I couldn't get past the uncomfortable factor that tonic mentioned. I also move around a lot and it just kept getting into these uncomfortable angles and I was finding it hard to deal with.

As a STP it worked pretty well but I did overflow it a few times. ugh. I think if it gets to far forward there are problems.

I recently shelled out the money to get a peecock and much prefer that. It is sooooo much more comfortable. I did have to get used to not collapsing the funnel as I'd gotten used to the firmness of the model d. However, the peecock reservoir seems bigger and I don't have to regulate my flow as much.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: SX0877 on June 08, 2014, 09:26:27 PM
Just saw that the model D has been improved to version 2, and there are also model A and model D sport now. I think the version 2 in picture looks good especially the head is nicely detailed.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on June 16, 2014, 09:41:33 PM
@Tonic and christopher Thank you both for the great reviews.

@SX0877 I'll have to check that out. Thanks for mentioning.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: transmadness on June 26, 2014, 07:29:12 AM
Quote from: SX0877 on June 08, 2014, 09:26:27 PM
Just saw that the model D has been improved to version 2, and there are also model A and model D sport now. I think the version 2 in picture looks good especially the head is nicely detailed.
May I ask where you saw that at? I did some research and couldn't see anything. I may be interested in purchasing it.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: SX0877 on June 26, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
Quote from: transmadness on June 26, 2014, 07:29:12 AM
May I ask where you saw that at? I did some research and couldn't see anything. I may be interested in purchasing it.

http://www.toolshedtoys.com/product_info.php/cPath/48_108/products_id/3664
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on June 26, 2014, 11:05:24 AM
Quote from: SX0877 on June 26, 2014, 09:26:16 AM
http://www.toolshedtoys.com/product_info.php/cPath/48_108/products_id/3664

Thank you for posting. I really want to try this
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on July 07, 2014, 12:36:45 AM
After looking at the new STPs they have out, I'm going to buy model A asap. If anyone buys it please post a review. I'll make sure to.
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on August 01, 2014, 12:01:50 PM
I bought the Model A. Will post up a review once I've been able to try it out for awhile
Title: Re: Number one Laboratory
Post by: G on August 03, 2014, 03:01:06 AM
Quote from: G on August 01, 2014, 12:01:50 PM
I bought the Model A. Will post up a review once I've been able to try it out for awhile

ETA is Tuesday. Really impressed with Number one laboratory so far. Bought it thru etsy