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I was thinking about this today and I really have two different, opposing feelings on it.  What do you think? Why?

      I not only would I own a high quality one I loaned it to a local school to fly at half mast on TDOR I will never hide the fact I am trans even if  one day I become passable  I wear a transgender pendant every day it is part of who I am

     bobbisue :)

I have no fear of being trans. I'd fly it happily anywhere.

No.  But I do often wear one pink earring and one blue earring.  I'm not ashamed of the fact I'm transgender.

Nope

No
My sister thinks it'll always be obvious I'm trans anyway... so yeah don't think I need a flag!

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Sorry but no. Being a transsexual is not something I did, it is not a club, state or country. I can see flying the flag in support and I find it laudable, but it also sets us apart. I have been apart, segregated and alone, when does it end? I am not much, kind of a joke really, but I have paid my dues in every way that can be expected of anyone. I am not very good at helping others go through what I already have, but I try. I don't feel that I owe anyone.

I will not hide and I will do what I can to help change the way that trans people are viewed, but I am not advertising and making myself a target of hatred for someone who knows nothing about me.

It could be that makes me a coward, I don't know but then again I don't care. I have nothing to prove.

Quote from: HappyMoni on February 22, 2018, 06:36:28 PM
I was thinking about this today and I really have two different, opposing feelings on it.  What do you think? Why?

Yes, because I love unicorns.  :-*

Hugs, Devlyn

I have an equality sticker on me car and would put a trans sticker on it if and when I find one. I have not flown a flag on my lawn for a while but if I could find a new America flag and trans flag I would fly them on holidays. I am not out actively looking for flags.

I understand about paying dues. I am on our works pride executive committee and I do not wear a rainbow anything. It is redundant. However, I have a rainbow pin I guess I should wear to show I have been trained in diversity and am a designated safe person.

Not really the flag type of person as I don't have anywhere to put one but I wear my trans necklace most days..


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Absolutely not! Why not just wear a T-shirt that says I'M TRANS.

Good idea.  ;D

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Yes, I have a full-size trans flag that I fly on TDoR and TDoV.  I have also worn a trans flag pin in public on occasion. 

I have a triangular trans logo pendant that I wear if I am meeting a trans internet friend in person for the first time.  Kind of a "yes, this is me, you have the right person" sign.

I don't go out of my way to be visible.  In fact, I am quite happy to be taken for a cis woman by strangers.  But I don't go out of my way to hide either.  There are times when I want to stand up and be counted, and I don't mind who sees me doing so.

Proud to be Trans and a member of the trans community We have been trans since birth and will always be trans.  Lets have a new really representative flag..Art competition on Susans place :)

  Not into politicizing my existence my being trans is a personal issue, it is part of me but not the sum total of who I am.  I view flags of all types to be divisive and promote an us against them mentality.

Even though our police chief is a lesbian woman, people are not very informed about anything LGTBI. If I flew a trans flag, people would wonder what country it's from. They certainly don't want to hear about what they think might be some dude having his junk cut off. People are really that dense. They'd prefer to just view me as a rather tall woman, and I'd rather be treated as one.

All of my vehicles (though I haven't owned one in a while) have had a regular pride sticker as well as a leather pride one.

Trans pride less so, I'm not wild about the colors

I have a small flag stick to my fridgirator door. Was planning to use that last November during the remembrance day, but forgot to tie it to my sleeve. Next time :)

But I just love the idea of putting pink and blue earrings!

My sister gave me a trans flag shortly after I came out, and I hang it in the window of my house.  I know a lot of really good people who are trans, and seeing the flag reminds me of them and of the fact that there is still light in the world.  I also have a hat that says TRANS on it in big pink and blue block letters.  I only wear that at events specifically for LGBT people.  No sense in actively trying to get my teeth knocked in. 

Nope but it's not due to fear. I can support anything,  even things I am not.

It's because I don't have pride in being trans.  This is something I've never understood.
I hate it! I need to upheave a huge part of my life just to be me. Where's the pride in that?

I would not. Not the show and tell or activist type. I hate being the unicorn, but if I am, its cool, probably born into it, not my intention, but prefer not. Now, I can support others, through "live and let live, what has she/he done to you?, TGness naturally exists in nature, silent monetary support".

Just my environment is blue collar, 1st generation immigrants from Latin America and blue collar African Americans, so I prefer the "gray man" concept of survival and well-being, aka Southcentral L.A./Compton, CA.

Quote from: CallMeKatie on February 23, 2018, 01:33:13 AM
Nope but it's not due to fear. I can support anything,  even things I am not.

It's because I don't have pride in being trans.  This is something I've never understood.
I hate it! I need to upheave a huge part of my life just to be me. Where's the pride in that?

The pride is acknowledgment of that struggle, the pain, and hopefully after transition also the joy.

People got beaten on by cops, Stonewall, Compton's and of course just living their lives. Trans people are right at the center of the realization of queer liberation. The world is more accepting of us due to activism.

Not saying you gotta fly it, join etc, just saying why I have pride.

Quote from: HappyMoni on February 22, 2018, 06:36:28 PM
I was thinking about this today and I really have two different, opposing feelings on it.  What do you think? Why?

I'm curious what your conflicting feelings are Moni

My only objection to the trans flag is the color combination that I am not in love with and as I ponder that I'm seeing that my reticence is in part because it's always portrayed in pastel shades.

I've lately been pondering a triangle tattoo and in a really saturated, maybe iridescent copper blue over hot pink or dayglow pink ... Yeah I could rock that.

Maybe my inner fag is showing through ;-) flamboyant hasn't been my past forte bit maybe it's time to explore!

Yes I will and have. I wear trans/lgbtq-shirts mostly on special events only though. Two of them I bought at pride to support local groups. My truck has a bunch of trans and lgbtq stickers as well. I do have 3 shirts, but unfortunately they are wearing rather quikly. (just like the bumper stickers)

Slightly of topic,

I even have a T-shirt that I am not wearing but placed in a display case at home. It started with a joke, but my friends had it made and gave it to me. Its pretty pink and reads: "I got my vagina in North Carolina".

I've been thinking about getting a trans flag bumper sticker lately. I figure it'll count as part of my plan to slowly out myself, sort of a soft outing if you will.

Besides, worst case scenario, I can claim a neighborhood youth did it, in my area some kids occasionally go around and put stickers on people's cars. Someone a couple years ago put a Darth Vader sticker in the middle of the back window on my car (before it was mine). Took forever to scrape up off.

Quote from: CallMeKatie on February 23, 2018, 01:33:13 AM
Nope but it's not due to fear. I can support anything,  even things I am not.

It's because I don't have pride in being trans.  This is something I've never understood.
I hate it! I need to upheave a huge part of my life just to be me. Where's the pride in that?

I feel the same way. I can't feel pride in something that has caused me so much pain and ruined my life.

In the words of Randy Jackson: "It's a no from me, Dog"

LGBT flags and bumper stickers are not a good idea. Adam, a guy I work with is one of those super proud gay guys. He's even worn a T-shirt that says Drag-queen on it. Of course he had the gay flag and gay pride bumper stickers and even one on the back window of his car. There were so many incidents that he finally got smart and removed them. More than once a carfull of guys yelled slurs at him at stoplights. Another time someone threw a large soda at his driver side window. Another time he and his boy friend went to a movie and when they came out someone had written " fags must die" and "fags burn in hell" on his front and back windows with permanent marker.

Why make yourself a target for hate?

Not proud nor ashamed but I do wear my trans ball cap pretty often. It's got a cute littl trans flag on the front of it. Most people don't even know what it is. But I do agree with Julia. Flying your freak flag can be hazardous to your health.

Quote from: Julia1996 on February 23, 2018, 07:21:01 AM
LGBT flags and bumper stickers are not a good idea.

... Hate and harassment skipped

Why make yourself a target for hate?

Why would you stay in a place where there are so many homophobes, transphobes? We move to places where we're valued, plain and simple.

Quote from: SadieBlake on February 23, 2018, 07:41:01 AM
Why would you stay in a place where there are so many homophobes, transphobes? We move to places where we're valued, plain and simple.

Because my family lives here and I just turned 20. I don't have the means to move somewhere else and I wouldn't want to leave my family anyway. LGBT phobic people aren't an issue for me because no one can tell I'm trans. That would change if I started flying flags and had bumper stickers. Why on earth would I ever do that??

Quote from: SadieBlake on February 23, 2018, 07:41:01 AM
Why would you stay in a place where there are so many homophobes, transphobes? We move to places where we're valued, plain and simple.

Valued? The truth is trans people have no value whatsoever to anyone except maybe to our loved ones. And I am not saying we don't have value but society doesn't think we do.

Quote from: Julia1996 on February 23, 2018, 07:55:05 AM
Valued? The truth is trans people have no value whatsoever to anyone except maybe to our loved ones. And I am not saying we don't have value but society doesn't think we do.

My being trans has no value to others, beyond giving them brownie points for inclusivity if they put up with me.

But my being authentic and happy as who I am (which happens to be trans) has a lot of value to a lot of people.  And, being an active volunteer in the community, most of my neighbours find a lot of value in this trans person, especially if their house is on fire or they have a heart attack.

We don't necessarily have value to others because of being trans, but we do have value as people, even when our trans-ness is known.

Home is a powerful tie for sure.  I really miss the closest thing I ever had to one growing up.

But anyway what's wrong with not being loud, proud, and vigorously waving the flag?  I say nothing.  No offense, but nobody is going to see the trans flag on your car/house/bicycle/pet animal/mailbox/whatever and suddenly gain an appreciation for our struggle just from gazing upon the glory that is a few pastel stripes.  (I'm totally with Sadie on the "why does it have to be pastel?" thing.)

If you like using the "hey what's that?" opportunities to educate people in a tactful manner, please continue doing so.  That's probably the best reason I can imagine for flying these symbols.


Now why don't I fly it?  Because it doesn't wholly define me as a person.  Was coming to terms with what I am an awful struggle for me?  Sure, but so was a bunch of other stuff I did. (and I don't fly flags to celebrate those either)  I am not defined by who I prefer to sleep with, nor what my original birth certificate said.  I don't bring it up, and honestly most people are completely clueless about it.  I don't seek attention for what I am. 

Quote from: Julia1996 on February 23, 2018, 07:21:01 AM
LGBT flags and bumper stickers are not a good idea. Adam, a guy I work with is one of those super proud gay guys. He's even worn a T-shirt that says Drag-queen on it. Of course he had the gay flag and gay pride bumper stickers and even one on the back window of his car. There were so many incidents that he finally got smart and removed them. More than once a carfull of guys yelled slurs at him at stoplights. Another time someone threw a large soda at his driver side window. Another time he and his boy friend went to a movie and when they came out someone had written " fags must die" and "fags burn in hell" on his front and back windows with permanent marker.

Why make yourself a target for hate?

Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Without the flag wavers and bumper stickers you wouldn't be able to seek treatment and put your trans beast to rest at age 20. Without the activists there is no progress. You would do well to look past your sense of entitlement and see that.

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Julia1996 on February 23, 2018, 07:55:05 AM
Valued? The truth is trans people have no value whatsoever to anyone except maybe to our loved ones. And I am not saying we don't have value but society doesn't think we do.

Sure and I'm not trying to negate your choices, I feel I know you a little bit and I admire you, you seem to know yourself and have a good heart.

However "society" is an abstraction built of individuals. I feel the admiration I've received from people in my life is mostly genuine and I'm trying to get better at accepting it as positive, not with second guess.

Two concrete examples: Yesterday immediately on boarding a crowded bus I shad.to stand (prefer to sit, it makes me less conspicuous). I was wearing my.nicer knit,. relatively conservative straight line black knot skirt and I stood opposite.a woman tastefully attired in mid priced designer outfit that she'd clearly put together for a good look.

There we were,.two women.of similar age. Before I had a chance to wonder if.she was judging me she smiled and did an assessment, looking me up.and down, taking in my worn and partly secondhand outfit. And then she gave a deeper smile and nodded quite subtly. Her affect said I'd been judged and passed. My attire was femme within my means.

It meant a lot to me. Every time that happens it makes up for the few hostile stares and frequent inquisitive looks 100-fold.

A similar and far more explicit assessment came from my therapist a few weeks ago she compared.my process to childbirth with intonation acknowledging that she felt my journey was harder. Coming from a woman who's had a child that felt like high praise. I compare my several months recovery to recovering with responsibility for a newborn and would have said her road sounded harder but that's not the point.

Have no doubt, some people absolutely appreciate us.

As to where you live, sure if you have passing privilege there's no reason you need to leave and to be clear my comment wasn't suggesting that you need to rather that's why some choose to.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on February 23, 2018, 08:35:52 AM
Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Without the flag wavers and bumper stickers you wouldn't be able to seek treatment and put your trans beast to rest at age 20. Without the activists there is no progress. You would do well to look past your sense of entitlement and see that.

Hugs, Devlyn

I don't have a sense of entitlement. Why would you think that?

I would have moved if I had to, I did in a way. Not far but far enough that no one knows and I am accepted at face value. Here is where my life is, my friends and family and I don't want to live anywhere else if I don't have to.

Sacrifice.

I have anonymity, it's wonderful. I had it before I transitioned I guess but it meant nothing to me then, it certainly does now. Who would have thought that something that most people take for granted could be so valuable. I am probably delusional and don't pass at all but it seems that I do and I don't want lose that.

Sacrifice.

I lived in fear for a while, the fear hasn't gone away completely but it is no longer incapacitating. With the kind of fear I had, I lost myself to it, every aspect of my life was ruled by it. How can I live like that? I don't want to go back to living that way.

Sacrifice.

Isn't that it? Sacrifice? That is what displaying or advertising my transsexualness would be, sacrifice. The fact that so many are willing to make those sacrifices is commendable, I have a ton of admiration for that, I chose not to. Even if it makes me less of a person.

Yet another good thread that went astray. If people are happy and not hurting anyone else, why try to hold them to our standards? Enjoy the diversity instead of validating our choices by asking everyone else to take the same path. The question was a choice, not a choice between good and evil, but a life choice about where we are comfortable.

🙂 It definitely made me think it through, thank you Moni.

Quote from: FinallyMichelle on February 23, 2018, 09:09:54 AM
Even if it makes me less of a person.

Yet another good thread that went astray.

I would certainly never think less of you and in fact knowing I have so many sisters living happily accepted as female. You lend me your strength and believe me when I say I need it. When I catch an unfriendly or too-inquisitive glance you can bet that part of my internal response is the sure knowledge that a bigot has no idea some other strong woman they know is trans. That woman is probably just like me in many respects except for passability.

This thread is fine, gave me the opportunity to express that ^^

I don't know why there is such a divide and hostility from some whenever the question of being openly trans or not is discussed. If some people want to be openly and proudly trans that's totally fine. And if some like me want to be stealth that's fine also. People have different ideas and opinions regarding stealth and they are totally entitled to them. I don't think it's wrong for someone to be proud of being trans at all. All that matters is they are happy. I'm not ashamed of being trans but I'm also not proud of it and I don't want to be known as a transwoman. I believe that being a transwoman equals being not a real woman or an imitation in the minds of most CIS people. But that's just my opinion.

I also don't have a sense of entitlement as was implied. I realize that I've been extremely lucky that I have a lot of support from my family. And I know I'm lucky that I am able to pass easily. But I don't feel in any way entitled to those things. I'm extremely lucky to have them and I'm very thankful. I also would never think I'm better or more trans than any trans person. Ever. We all face the same hardships and problems and no one is better than anyone else. I just feel that some people here think because I started young and have had it a lot easier than some people here that my problems aren't really imporant or even valid. I haven't had the same problems many of you have but I've had my share of painful experiences. My life hasn't been a picnic. Yes I started young but I paid a heavy price for that every single day I went to school. I also know a couple of the members here view me as snotty, spoiled and with a sense of entitlement.  I am absolutely not any of those things and it really upsets me that anyone would think I am.

Unfortunately for me I live in the south, right in the middle of the "Bible Belt" and some people around here don't like trans anything. I have a friend here that is a trans women and she has told me stories of being harassed by people in town. That is the only reason I wouldn't wear one. I can see me coming out of Wal-Mart at night and getting the crap beat out of me.
I have never been in public as Chelsea so really it might not be that bad here but, I still have that fear.

Hugs,
        Chelsea

Quote from: Julia1996 on February 23, 2018, 09:58:34 AM
I don't know why there is such a divide and hostility from some whenever the question of being openly trans or not is discussed.

I know, right!  SO many people have the my way or the highway attitude about this.

Quote from: Julia1996 on February 23, 2018, 09:58:34 AM
I also don't have a sense of entitlement as was implied.

No, you don't.  Please do not worry about that because that is simply what someone else may think, and we all know that we cannot control what others think about us.  Just love yourself. :)

Quote from: Julia1996 on February 23, 2018, 08:57:44 AM
I don't have a sense of entitlement. Why would you think that?

Because you are enjoying the benefits of trans rights, fought for by people who came before you, yet you empirically state that that action is a  bad idea:

Quote from: Julia1996 on February 23, 2018, 07:21:01 AM
LGBT flags and bumper stickers are not a good idea. Adam, a guy I work with is one of those super proud gay guys. He's even worn a T-shirt that says Drag-queen on it. Of course he had the gay flag and gay pride bumper stickers and even one on the back window of his car. There were so many incidents that he finally got smart and removed them. More than once a carfull of guys yelled slurs at him at stoplights. Another time someone threw a large soda at his driver side window. Another time he and his boy friend went to a movie and when they came out someone had written " fags must die" and "fags burn in hell" on his front and back windows with permanent marker.

Why make yourself a target for hate?

I looked at what you said objectively, and  made objective comments. We can all benefit from taking an objective look at ourselves, our thinking, and our actions. It's a good exercise. As Ainsley says, my words shouldn't matter, they're merely pixels on a screen.   :)

Hugs, Devlyn

I've been following this and also having this as an internal dialog for quite some time.  I agree with Devlyn that the current more accepting environment has been hard fought by trans folk that have traveled before us.  I also agree with others that say, why be proud of something that has caused me great pain.  I currently am firmly in that pain camp and still have shame.  However I WILL start displaying a flag or symbol just for my own healing.  This will also have an added benefit to help future trans folk.  I also visit the south frequently and will not be waving the flag there.  I know, I'm a hypocrite, but I also love my life.

Bari Jo

Quote from: warlockmaker on February 22, 2018, 08:18:11 PM
Proud to be Trans and a member of the trans community We have been trans since birth and will always be trans.  Lets have a new really representative flag..Art competition on Susans place :)

My boss Scott just spun this up for me. Maybe we can improve on this basic design.

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Hugs, Devlyn

It's not a trans flag, but I wear a rainbow pride lanyard at work as an out and proud leader of our LGBT network.
It goes on in the morning before i leave the house, and comes off when I get home. If I stop at the shops any time during the day in the week it usually stays on too.
I've never encountered any conflict resulting from this.

X.

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No. I do not want the attention.
I transitioned to live my life as any other woman would. If I label myself transgender I can't do that.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on February 23, 2018, 11:43:59 AM
My boss Scott just spun this up for me. Maybe we can improve on this basic design.

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Hugs, Devlyn

You know, that doesn't look half bad.

There's a lot of symbolism in there too. The circle represents continuity and inclusion. Male, female and neutral are represented. Everything comes from the center, our core.

Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on February 23, 2018, 11:43:59 AM
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It's Devlyn's mind control device, don't look!! [emoji23]

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Nonsense!  Stare at the pinwheel and pay no attention to Megan!  :laugh:

All glory to the HypnoDevlyn

Quote from: Colleen_definitely on February 23, 2018, 12:34:27 PM
All glory to the HypnoDevlyn

Under her eye. 
Blessed fruit; may she open.

No.

Sharing thoughts with people you meet about this is far more effective than flying a flag. It also puts me on an even keel with someone else, which earns respect more effectively from the opposition - flag-waving doesn't.

I've been reading. I don't think I would ever fly a flag, use a sticker, or anything else that draws attention in that manner. Not because I don't know or appreciate those that came before and paved the way for more acceptance and easier (relative) transitions.

I am not an activist. Were I one that that is already in the public eye or planning to be, doing so would not be an issue. I am not.

The symbol is a sign of support, yes, great
The symbol is a target for the ignorant, yes, bad.
I have zero problems conversing and answering questions one-on-one to those I meet to help educate them on what it means. A crowd of one I can handle.
My plan is to (attempt to) reduce the ignorant one at a time.

I like the idea of playing with the shape, Devlyn.  I'm thinking something more of a streamer or a banner shaped flag rotated 90 degrees.  Reminiscent of a long dress or a pair of pants.
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Also, I'm just brainstorming here but stay with me. How about a Southern "Stars and Bars" Confederacy flag except with transgender colors for flying down South?  That would cause some heads to explode down in Dixie I expect.

  Having spent a good part of my life being ostracized, bullied and abused even from members of my own family for appearing to be an effeminate male I have no desire to draw unwanted attention to myself. For those who are so vocal about the virtues of living openly, have you had your face kicked in, have you had bones broken, have you been stabbed for just for being different? I have, and would rather not spend whats left of my life as a target for further abuse.

Not on my car.  I drive a LOT.  There are some crazy people out there that think that they are anonymous behind the wheel or while the car is parked do something. 

I do a lot of bike riding and I'm about to buy some trans socks to wear.

One thing to consider... who, outside our community knows what the trans-flag is?

I think it is going to depend on how comfortable I am after fully coming out. It might take a while for me to proudly display the flag but I do hope to be at that point in my life at some point.

Quote from: Janes Groove on February 23, 2018, 02:56:58 PM
I like the idea of playing with the shape, Devlyn.  I'm thinking something more of a streamer or a banner shaped flag rotated 90 degrees.  Reminiscent of a long dress or a pair of pants.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZT3j8dS.png)
Also, I'm just brainstorming here but stay with me. How about a Southern "Stars and Bars" Confederacy flag except with transgender colors for flying down South?  That would cause some heads to explode down in Dixie I expect.

Thanks!  :)

Hugs, Devlyn

I am wondering if a scarf or winter cap might work out well as a way to use these colors in fashion.

Devlyn, have there been any military medals or ribbons that happened to have used this color combination?  Some ribbons are very colorful, although the size of the color bands often differ on a ribbon.


Chrissy

Wow, I guess this is a difficult, emotional thing for a number of folks besides me. I just think this crazy situation of being trans is such a paradox. The thing I want is to blend in as a woman. I also want to be self accepting. So, to blend in and match my mind with where I think I should fit in with society, that involves withholding my trans visibility. To accept myself as what I am, I shouldn't be ashamed of claiming my identity perhaps in visible or activist ways. There are times when I want both. I don't judge anyone for the personal choices they make in this matter. I will say that the original intent as the OP was not to get people upset with each other. I would hope we would use a little tact in how we say things, so we can maintain a respectful dialog.
I have never been much of a flag waver. I have seen instances where the piece of cloth becomes more important than the values that flag represents. The values are the important thing in my mind. So, I see the potential for the symbol to become divisive. The safety issue is definitely legitimate in the society we live in. I also want to advocate for general tolerance, trans, gay, and minority rights. I will do that in my way, in my little corner of the world. I guess I am saying, I would wear a trans T shirt in the places I see as appropriate to my personality. My values, to the best of my ability, will remain consistent and open to outsiders.
Moni

Probably not, but not because I'm scared. I live in a fairly tolerant community. However, I don't think me being trans is that big of a deal. I don't mind introducing people as my preferred name; I guess that's one way I out myself, sure, given how I don't "pass" yet. Even though I've considered it before, I feel like a shirt or a flag would be going a bit overboard for me. I wouldn't go around advertising that I have depression, why would I want do the same for my gender dysphoria? And like my depression, the only people I'd care to go in detail about that sort of thing would be close friends; family; and romantic partners. But that's just how I view it.

My bedroom wall.

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I bought it recently in the Castro district during a trip to San Francisco. That was the first time I ever felt comfortable enough to ask a stranger to get me something like that. (You had to get them from behind the cashiers stand) I have a Ph.D. and am a professional scientist, so once I'm ready to go public stealth won't really be an option for me, so I hope to work in small ways to help remove the stigma that's out there. I shouldn't have to go to the other side of the continent just so I can find a few square blocks to feel comfortable, and neither should anyone else.

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on February 23, 2018, 06:53:25 PM
I am wondering if a scarf or winter cap might work out well as a way to use these colors in fashion.

Devlyn, have there been any military medals or ribbons that happened to have used this color combination?  Some ribbons are very colorful, although the size of the color bands often differ on a ribbon.


Chrissy

Not that I know of, but the WWI Victory medal is pretty sweet.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn

I usually wear two bracelets. One, to remind me that I and everyone I love is dying, and so help keep my life in context, and the other, a trans flag, to help give my life a purpose.

I'm usually reluctant when it comes to embracing a flag, but, at the moment, a world where trans people aren't discriminated against is one of the most incontrovertible good things I know.

Not to hijack the thread but I love your avatar Autumn!
Cafe Terrance at Night?
I am not positive but I am fairly sure that is Van Gogh.

Yeah, exactly!

I love your avatar, too, Michelle.

😊 He may have been mental, but he had a gift.

I wouldn't, I think it is too politicized for the most part. Also, my philosophies are far more complex than a flag could ever hope to convey, and I don't like my views being assumed or distilled by iconography of any sort.

If I were more of an activist in real life, then  I would.

But in actually, I in the real world, I don't like stirring the pot anymore, than my existence already does.




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