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Title: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: Anastasia on September 13, 2018, 10:21:00 PM
Good luck to her in the Deep South

https://whnt.com/2018/09/13/former-grissom-student-sues-huntsville-city-schools-over-transgender-discrimination/

Posted 5:46 pm, September 13, 2018, by Patrick Ary and Chelsea Brentzel, Updated at 10:42PM, Septem
Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: itsApril on September 14, 2018, 02:42:48 PM
Transition can be tough anywhere.  Can't imagine how difficult it must have been for a teenager in Alabama!

A little more from the story:

Former Grissom student sues Huntsville City Schools over transgender discrimination

whnt.com
5:46 PM, SEPTEMBER 13, 2018
BY PATRICK ARY AND CHELSEA BRENTZEL

https://whnt.com/2018/09/13/former-grissom-student-sues-huntsville-city-schools-over-transgender-discrimination/

"HUNTSVILLE, Ala. – A former Grissom High School student filed a federal discrimination lawsuit Wednesday against school staff members and the city school board.

"According to the complaint, Zelda  Menefee began making a social transition from male to female in summer 2014, meaning she changed her first name, changed identity documents to indicate a female gender, began wearing female clothing and using female restrooms. She enrolled at Grissom as a freshman in January 2015, the complaint states.

"Menefee, now 19, claims she was harassed by students and staff, was physically assaulted by students and had a blind eye turned by school administrators when the treatment was brought to their attention. . . ."

You can read Zelda's full complaint (lawsuit) here:

https://localtvwhnt.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/zelda-menefee-discrimination-lawsuit.pdf
Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: Gertrude on September 14, 2018, 05:41:12 PM
Not surprised at all. This from a society and culture whose ancestors thought it okey dokey to own people. Change is hard, sometimes people need help changing.


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Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: Devlyn on September 14, 2018, 05:44:00 PM
Quote from: Gertrude on September 14, 2018, 05:41:12 PM
Not surprised at all. This from a society and culture whose ancestors thought it okey dokey to own people. Change is hard, sometimes people need help changing.

In fairness, everyone's ancestors thought it was okey dokey to own people.
Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: Gertrude on September 14, 2018, 05:51:31 PM
Quote from: Devlyn on September 14, 2018, 05:44:00 PM
In fairness, everyone's ancestors thought it was okey dokey to own people.

That's not true.
Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: GingerVicki on September 16, 2018, 04:12:26 AM
I am not sure that I would live in the deep south. The underground railroad was there for a reason.
Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: Devlyn on September 16, 2018, 09:24:01 AM
Quote from: Gertrude on September 14, 2018, 05:51:31 PM
That's not true.

Yeah, pretty much it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery
Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: Gertrude on September 16, 2018, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: Devlyn on September 16, 2018, 09:24:01 AM
Yeah, pretty much it is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

Beware of always and never. I am sure there were antislavery and abolitionists going back centuries and millennia. To put a blanket statement is kind of facile and doesn't look at the nuances. That said, cultures are fluid, glacially like in the south and faster elsewhere. The continuity between my ancestors who may have supported slavery was broken long ago and the idea that one can't call someone or some culture on something because of some ancient lineage that did the same thing is just shaming to stifle opinion and discussion. It never ends and it's kind of weak in a logical sense. I have little in common culturally with my ancestors past a few generations at most. With the south, they haven't moved on so quickly and much. At some point they'll be up to speed, but not until the post millennials come of age would be my guess. I would also think that the migration of people from more liberal states from either coast to lower cost of living places in the south and other traditionally conservative places will change things too. We've seen that in places like Colorado and even Utah where the mayor of SLC is a lesbian.
Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: Devlyn on September 16, 2018, 09:53:32 AM
Quote from: Gertrude on September 16, 2018, 09:50:01 AM
Beware of always and never. I am sure there were antislavery and abolitionists going back centuries and millennia. To put a blanket statement is kind of facile and doesn't look at the nuances. That said, cultures are fluid, glacially like in the south and faster elsewhere. The continuity between my ancestors who may have supported slavery was broken long ago and the idea that one can't call someone or some culture on something because of some ancient lineage that did the same thing is just shaming to stifle opinion and discussion. It never ends and it's kind of weak in a logical sense. I have little in common culturally with my ancestors past a few generations at most. With the south, they haven't moved on so quickly and much. At some point they'll be up to speed, but not until the post millennials come of age would be my guess. I would also think that the migration of people from more liberal states from either coast to lower cost of living places in the south and other traditionally conservative places will change things too. We've seen that in places like Colorado and even Utah where the mayor of SLC is a lesbian.

Quote from: Gertrude on September 14, 2018, 05:51:31 PM
That's not true.

You crack me up!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Trans student sues school board in Federal court
Post by: Lady Sarah on September 16, 2018, 11:47:53 AM
Enforcement of laws can be peculiar. Mistreating someone because they are trans, and authories saying "this wouldn't have happened if you weren't trans" is not very dissimilar to authorities saying rape victims are to blame for being too sexy. The whole "you asked for it" phenomenon is still too pervasive in the current culture.