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Title: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 12, 2018, 05:27:51 PM
Why are the pockets on the back of women's pants often so shallow?
The front ones also are often not very deep.

Perhaps the answer is stylishness.
Perhaps you want nothing like hands and wallets putting "bumps" in those clingy, tight, even form fitting pants.

But, say you have one of those big cellular telephones.  Gosh, they can stick so far out of these shallow pants!  This is not very practical, if you ask me!

Women's pants simply often fit better for me than men's pants.  But they do lack those deeper, useful pockets that men's pants have.  Bummer!

Any thoughts on this?  We do not always have to wear skintight pants, we want comfort too.

I see no reason why we should not be able to have pant pockets deep enough to hold a large smartphone.  At least on some of our pants and shorts!

Chrissy

Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: stephaniec on November 12, 2018, 05:39:42 PM
fashion
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 12, 2018, 05:44:30 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on November 12, 2018, 05:39:42 PM
fashion


Yes, fashion and stylishness must play a major part of the pant's design.

But, if you have pockets in the design, perhaps they could be deeper, at least sometimes?   :)

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Jessica on November 12, 2018, 05:47:52 PM
Hi Chrissy!  Sometimes they are just the outside stitching....no pocket.  I have pairs that have no back pocket except for the stitching, but pockets in the front.  Typically any pocket on anything stylish is just for accent.....purses are a girls pockets.
Of course there are woman cut cargo pants with big pockets, but they're bigger than your butt.
I have seen adds for tough and rough women's jeans from a company in the US that was primarily for men's underwear and jeans.  The men's were supposed to make you feel 'buck naked', if you get my drift.

Purses are like shoes....gotta have em!
Hugs and smiles from a California girl
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Arianna Valentine on November 12, 2018, 05:53:06 PM
I believe it's because women are generally thought to carry everything they have in a purse so they don't need big front pockets on their pants

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Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 12, 2018, 05:59:57 PM
Quote from: Jessica on November 12, 2018, 05:47:52 PM
Hi Chrissy!  Sometimes they are just the outside stitching....no pocket.  I have pairs that have no back pocket except for the stitching, but pockets in the front.  Typically any pocket on anything stylish is just for accent.....purses are a girls pockets.
Of course there are woman cut cargo pants with big pockets, but they're bigger than your butt.
I have seen adds for tough and rough women's jeans from a company in the US that was primarily for men's underwear and jeans.  The men's were supposed to make you feel 'buck naked', if you get my drift.

Purses are like shoes....gotta have em!
Hugs and smiles from a California girl


Hi Jessica!

Ah yes, purses.  That is true but gosh we can go out and about and do lots of things without carrying purses, like taking a walk down the trail but we still want the convenience and safety of having our telephone with us.  Women, like guys, can walk around the office with telephones and not also have their purses.  But purses are good too.  I saw some cute ones last week.  I am looking forward to Black Friday for some deals on maybe a new one!

And yes, I have pants with those "faux" pockets.

I would not trade our pants for guy pants and I know we can wear guy's jeans if we want to...
I guess I just see some practicalilty in having deeper pants for the newer, larger sized smartphones. 

Guy pants do not have the brighter colors usually except for golf pants.  We are lucky in that regard, we have more fashion.

And yes, those cargo and tactical pants or uniform pants can have the large pockets.  But they can be ugly.  They have their place.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Lacy on November 12, 2018, 06:19:41 PM
I love the way I look in women's pants. I'm a jeans girl!

But darn it if old habits don't die hard. I find myself trying to cram my hand into those super shallow pockets! If only they were like Mary Poppins or Hermione's bottomless bag! But...I guess that's what the dark hole of a purse is for!

It is difficult trying to carry around the big phones now days. Who carries a bag around work all day?! And I have no boobs to stick my phone into the bra.

Lacy

Hugs,
Lacy

Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Sabrina Rei on November 12, 2018, 10:56:08 PM
I just bought some madewell brand jeans which come in tall sizes and by god they have decent sized pockets! Still, if I have to go mobile i'll Sometimes just grab a wristlet style wallet that holds my phone and money and hang it from my wrist while holding it or stuff it in my outerwear pocket
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Maid Marion on November 13, 2018, 05:47:37 AM
I bought a cute little crossbody wallet to hold my phone and driver's license.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: barbie on November 13, 2018, 07:22:25 AM
As skirts do not have pockets, it would be OK for women's jeans not to have pockets. Actually, some women's jeans do deep and big pockets. Most of my jeans for ladies do have big pockets (brand names such as Calvin Klein).

http://www.ascvicenza.org/most-product/calvin-klein-jeans-womens-boyfriend-fit-light-wash-cropped-jeans-horizon-blue/

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1906/45860062901_ccaeb5ca9e_b.jpg) 

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4850/30920943047_77cc0efdb1_o.jpg)

barbie~~
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Johnni Gyrl on November 13, 2018, 08:06:09 AM
Have you thought of getting a belt-clip type phone cover that would free up the pocket/purse problem? I have one for a larger smart phone, they're great & you never lose your phone either. ;-)
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Jennifer M on November 13, 2018, 05:59:53 PM
Yes! This is an excellent question! It's got to be a conspiracy by Big Purse!

(And if the jeggings aren't even going to have pretend pockets they don't need to put the seams there at all!)

Ironically, this makes the cold half of the year slightly better for wearing women's jeans because then I can throw everything into the coat pockets.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Northern Star Girl on November 13, 2018, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: Maid Marion on November 13, 2018, 05:47:37 AM
I bought a cute little crossbody wallet to hold my phone and driver's license.

@Maid Marion
Actually this is a great solution.  I many times in some situations do not want to carry around a purse or handbag.  I like to keep my hands fairly free when I am out and about so a small neck-strap or shoulder-strap bag or wallet works perfectly form me as well.

On women's clothing items pockets are not there for functionality but more for looks.... plus putting a cell phone in a back pants or jeans pocket is just asking for a broken screen.

Thank you for sharing.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 13, 2018, 06:47:28 PM
Quote from: Johnni Gyrl on November 13, 2018, 08:06:09 AM
Have you thought of getting a belt-clip type phone cover that would free up the pocket/purse problem? I have one for a larger smart phone, they're great & you never lose your phone either. ;-)


I have thought about that, especially if the holder rotated.  I guess I will use the deeper pocketed jeans and a few other pants for now as I walk, as the holder just does not seem appealing to have on my belt, plus some of my belts are not very wide or thick ones.

Chrissy

Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Arianna Valentine on November 13, 2018, 06:49:11 PM
These are the back and front pockets of the pants that I recently bought from Charlotte Russe of course the front pockets are useless. Only for looks lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/01e0e3da4149b70eff5adb3d04cd6470.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181114/96b80b9678112924d40be0f113c51769.jpg)

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Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 13, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: RealLacy on November 12, 2018, 06:19:41 PM
I love the way I look in women's pants. I'm a jeans girl!

But darn it if old habits don't die hard. I find myself trying to cram my hand into those super shallow pockets! If only they were like Mary Poppins or Hermione's bottomless bag! But...I guess that's what the dark hole of a purse is for!

It is difficult trying to carry around the big phones now days. Who carries a bag around work all day?! And I have no boobs to stick my phone into the bra.

Lacy

Hugs,
Lacy


Lacy,

I cannot see putting a telephone in a bra either.  I asked around and some women do indeed do that, as well as keeping money and whatever there.

If placed there, and if the telephone was on vibrate and I received a call, would the breasts jiggle?!?  Would it provide a massage?  Would I be calling myself a lot then?   :)  :)

Plus these telephones now can be rather large.  I do not even see how it could fit into my bra. 
On top of the breasts?  If I get a call, do I just reach down there and dig it out in front of everyone too?  During a meeting?

I think I would rather just walk with it in my hands or have it in a purse.  It can also stick out a little from a pocket, maybe an inch or so, but less than half way, otherwise it might drop out as I walk.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Arianna Valentine on November 13, 2018, 06:58:40 PM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on November 13, 2018, 06:57:36 PM

Lacy,

I cannot see putting a telephone in a bra either.  I asked around and some women do indeed do that, as well as keeping money and whatever there.

If placed there, and if the telephone was on vibrate and I received a call, would the breasts jiggle?!?  Would it provide a massage?  Would I be calling myself a lot then?   :)  :)

Plus these telephones now can be rather large.  I do not even see how it could fit into my bra. 
On top of the breasts?  If I get a call, do I just reach down there and dig it out in front of everyone too?  During a meeting?

I think I would rather just walk with it my hands or have it in a purse.  It can also stick out a little from a pocket, maybe an inch or so, but less than half way, otherwise it might drop out as I walk.

Chrissy
I have actually done the telephone in the bra because I really did not want to carry my purse and everything else into the store so sometimes it's easier to just stick your cell phone in your bra it's like another pocket LOL of course now that my nipples have gotten so sensitive that just slightest touch feels like a thousand needles stabbing me I kind of don't do that anymore

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Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: alyssalove2790 on November 13, 2018, 07:17:17 PM
Quote from: barbie on November 13, 2018, 07:22:25 AM
As skirts do not have pockets, it would be OK for women's jeans not to have pockets. Actually, some women's jeans do deep and big pockets. Most of my jeans for ladies do have big pockets (brand names such as Calvin Klein).

There are some skirts sewn with pockets! I own one and it's very practical! Deep ones at that, I can stuff my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 in it. They're well hidden though sometimes I have to ruffle my skirt around to find them.  :D

You just have to find them! I like online shops for searching specific features.  ;)

https://www.amazon.ca/BIUBIU-Womens-Flared-Pleated-Pockets/dp/B078W1YLWF/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542158108&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=high%2Bwaist%2Bskirn&th=1
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 13, 2018, 07:22:06 PM
Quote from: alyssalove2790 on November 13, 2018, 07:17:17 PM
There are some skirts sewn with pockets! I own one and it's very practical! Deep ones at that, I can stuff my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 in it. They're well hidden though sometimes I have to ruffle my skirt around to find them.  :D

You just have to find them! I like online shops for searching specific features.  ;)

https://www.amazon.ca/BIUBIU-Womens-Flared-Pleated-Pockets/dp/B078W1YLWF/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542158108&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=high%2Bwaist%2Bskirn&th=1


Thank you Alyssa!  That is another option to look into!

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: NatalieRene on November 13, 2018, 07:45:17 PM
Quote from: Johnni Gyrl on November 13, 2018, 08:06:09 AM
Have you thought of getting a belt-clip type phone cover that would free up the pocket/purse problem? I have one for a larger smart phone, they're great & you never lose your phone either. ;-)
I'm not a big fan of things on my belt that are big and bulky. When walking or jogging I use an arm band and AirPods and control the music from my Apple Watch.

If I'm just out day to day I have my purse. Some times I use the larger purse like a tote but most of the time it's the bare essentials in a clutch or crossbody bag.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Lacy on November 13, 2018, 08:23:56 PM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on November 13, 2018, 06:57:36 PM

Lacy,

I cannot see putting a telephone in a bra either.  I asked around and some women do indeed do that, as well as keeping money and whatever there.

If placed there, and if the telephone was on vibrate and I received a call, would the breasts jiggle?!?  Would it provide a massage?  Would I be calling myself a lot then?   :)  :)

Plus these telephones now can be rather large.  I do not even see how it could fit into my bra. 
On top of the breasts?  If I get a call, do I just reach down there and dig it out in front of everyone too?  During a meeting?

I think I would rather just walk with it in my hands or have it in a purse.  It can also stick out a little from a pocket, maybe an inch or so, but less than half way, otherwise it might drop out as I walk.

Chrissy
I agree. There is a lady I work with who sticks everything in her bra. And yes she digs everything out in front of all of us. Of course us is myself and a dozen cis women.

It would be a little weird if all of a sudden your boob started dancing from phone vobrations!

Hugs,
Lacy

Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Lacy on November 13, 2018, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: alyssalove2790 on November 13, 2018, 07:17:17 PM
There are some skirts sewn with pockets! I own one and it's very practical! Deep ones at that, I can stuff my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 in it. They're well hidden though sometimes I have to ruffle my skirt around to find them.  :D

You just have to find them! I like online shops for searching specific features.  ;)

https://www.amazon.ca/BIUBIU-Womens-Flared-Pleated-Pockets/dp/B078W1YLWF/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1542158108&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=high%2Bwaist%2Bskirn&th=1
They are also making wedding dresses with pockets! Whoever first thought of that was a genius.

Hugs,
Lacy

Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Stephanie Vaughan on November 18, 2018, 07:29:16 AM
Absolutely right on the mark! I wore women's jeans long before I transitioned last year, they were always more comfortable and fitted better but the problem with the pockets is very real!
What has made it worse is my contact phone came up for renewal and so I upgraded from a galaxy S7 to the S9 and that's made the issue worse as it's longer than the 7 (I don't like the phone either)
I am lucky in that I can buy everyday jeans from a local store for only $7, they are perfect for my work, they don't last long but then use them for dirty jobs around our property but the pockets are hopeless!


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Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: SeptagonScars on November 19, 2018, 06:26:31 PM
Yeah, it's because big pockets would look "bulky" on tight pants that are meant to show off the body shape. Women's clothes are usually "looks over practicality" while men's clothes the other way around. Women are also more encouraged to put their stuff in bags instead of pockets. Or, alternatively get the men to carry their things for them. At least that's common among straigt couples, I've noticed.

However, women's jackets often have quite decent pockets. Although depends on the style of jacket, but parkas, trenchcoats, some leather jackets, etc usually do. I've a parkas that has 4 very practical pockets and I love that jacket, and although it's not very feminine it is intended for women to wear. It looks unisex though. I've had it for the past 17 years now and it's my very trusty jacket that's been with me through childhood to adulthood, through transition and detransition. And somehow it still fits me. It's just something special about it!

So I usually put my phone and wallet in my jacket pockets instead, if I don't use my shoulder bag for that. And if I'm not wearing a jacket or I'm indoors, then a cardigan with pockets on is very neat. I also stick my phone into my bra sometimes when I use it for listening to music and the headphone wire is short. I don't have boobs but wear breast forms in pockets of mastectomy bras, so I then put the phone basically between my flat chest and the breast form. The phone falls out when I lean forward, but if I don't do that it stays in place.

However I don't usually wear pants at all, as I'm much more comfortable in skirts and dresses instead. Those rarely ever come with any pockets at all. At least not the styles I go for. So that's even more of a reason for me to rely on the pockets on jackets and cardigans. For outfits that have no pockets at all though, I actually wear a waist bag. I've one made of leather in an antique style and with a brass lock-thing. I bought it at a medieval market some years ago. It works with any kinds of belts and I just about fit my samsung smartphone, small wallet, lighter and one pack of cigarettes in it. My keys I have to find another place for.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Harley Quinn on November 20, 2018, 08:13:56 AM
You can't get past the fashionable appearance of small or seudo pockets. Placing things in the pocket will "imprint" and ruin the lines of what are generally tight fitting, elastic stretch garments. I have found that less "form fitting" attire usually comes with full size pockets.  Men's suits are not exempt from the fashion of false pockets. Most suits will have pockets sewn shut, that you can have opened; so that they drape better for a sleeker, more professional appearance.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Amie June on November 20, 2018, 08:28:42 AM
I miss my pockets too, but quickly became a purse gal. And I love my purse - it's become an important part of my transition. I have to have it with me and love the weight of it over my shoulder. I'm looking for something new, something larger, maybe more colorful (mine is black), and have already looked at dozens! It has to be perfect.

And I agree: women don't put things in their pockets :)

Amie June
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: MaryT on November 21, 2018, 10:54:58 AM
Some men have deep pockets and short arms so that they can't pay when it's their round.  Traditionally, women don't buy their own drinks, so they don't need deep pockets.

Sorry, I'm temporarily possessed by the spirit of a MCP but I should be OK after the exorcist comes around  tomorrow.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Devlyn on November 21, 2018, 11:26:18 AM
Quote from: MaryT on November 21, 2018, 10:54:58 AM
Some men have deep pockets and short arms so that they can't pay when it's their round.  Traditionally, women don't buy their own drinks, so they don't need deep pockets.

Sorry, I'm temporarily possessed by the spirit of a MCP but I should be OK after the exorcist comes around  tomorrow.

How did that inner MCP miss the opportunity to say

"Women's pockets are shallow because women are shallow."  :laugh: >:-)
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Linde on November 21, 2018, 07:39:57 PM
Quote from: barbie on November 13, 2018, 07:22:25 AM
As skirts do not have pockets, it would be OK for women's jeans not to have pockets. Actually, some women's jeans do deep and big pockets. Most of my jeans for ladies do have big pockets (brand names such as Calvin Klein).

http://www.ascvicenza.org/most-product/calvin-klein-jeans-womens-boyfriend-fit-light-wash-cropped-jeans-horizon-blue/

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1906/45860062901_ccaeb5ca9e_b.jpg) 

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4850/30920943047_77cc0efdb1_o.jpg)

barbie~~
But as soon as the jeans are made to look a little cute (like rhinestones on,etc.) the pockets become close to nothing.  I have a Capri type of cute jeans, the front pockets are hardly big enough to hold a single Kleenex!
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Amie June on November 23, 2018, 08:04:43 AM
One last comment on this topic. I tried on a pair of male Levis yesterday that I haven't worn since my transition. They were new and I was saving them. The frugal gal in me, I suppose. Anyway, I was struck by how weird they looked with their HUGE pockets! And they seemed to ride up way past my belly button! I'm now ready to donate them. It's a relief :)

Hugs
Amie June
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Kylo on November 27, 2018, 02:46:00 AM
Often they're just for show
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: barbie on November 27, 2018, 04:10:51 AM
Some of my miniskirts also have shallow pockets just for show.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1957/44646693225_f21c9fcec0_b.jpg)  (https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4824/45347405104_a7a244b857_b.jpg)

Sometimes women's clothes are and should be funny.

barbie~~
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 27, 2018, 07:17:05 AM
Many times shorts have usable or just decorative pockets.  Cargo shorts sure do, but I almost never wear them, usually just when light trail hiking.

I have seen some shorts where the insides of the pockets, often white pouches, hang out in front, down below the leg hems. That is not my look tough, as that raggedy cut-off look is too "distressed style" or teeny for my taste.  Seems like a passing fashion fad, but there are a lot of styles that come and go. 

A set of classic outfits never seem to go out of style.  Some even have some usable pockets!  :)

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Lacy on November 29, 2018, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: barbie on November 27, 2018, 04:10:51 AM
Some of my miniskirts also have shallow pockets just for show.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1957/44646693225_f21c9fcec0_b.jpg)  (https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4824/45347405104_a7a244b857_b.jpg)

Sometimes women's clothes are and should be funny.

barbie~~

Barbie,
You rock those skirts so well! Your have great legs. I am glad you feel comfortable showing them off!

Lacy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on December 18, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
I noticed some girl jeans with deep back pockets.  Not huge but they looked about the same size as guy jeans back pockets.  I might have tried them on but I needed to go to the Post Office more than try on some new jeans.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: GingerVicki on December 18, 2018, 05:55:51 PM
Quote from: barbie on November 13, 2018, 07:22:25 AM
As skirts do not have pockets, it would be OK for women's jeans not to have pockets. Actually, some women's jeans do deep and big pockets. Most of my jeans for ladies do have big pockets (brand names such as Calvin Klein).

http://www.ascvicenza.org/most-product/calvin-klein-jeans-womens-boyfriend-fit-light-wash-cropped-jeans-horizon-blue/

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4850/30920943047_77cc0efdb1_o.jpg)

barbie~~

Oh my :icon_censored: those jeans have great pockets

There is a thread for that https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,242355.60.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,242355.60.html)

I've found that in my jeans my wallet works well.
(https://i.imgur.com/GjdIP0T.jpg)
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: jaybutterfly on December 18, 2018, 06:16:34 PM
I believe its to make it seem more figure fitting, combined with the somewhat outdated idea that all women carry bags of some variety.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Linde on December 18, 2018, 09:07:42 PM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on December 18, 2018, 03:29:45 PM
I noticed some girl jeans with deep back pockets.  Not huge but they looked about the same size as guy jeans back pockets.  I might have tried them on but I needed to go to the Post Office more than try on some new jeans.

Chrissy
I recently bought some with decent sized back pockets.  The front pockets are still very small!  Could it be that the back pockets are bigger, because many females have their cell phones in them?
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Lyric on December 19, 2018, 02:10:59 PM
I love women's jeans, except for this one issue. It seems to be a war we won't win, though, so I've dealt with it. Bags are fine, but like to carry stuff in my pockets. Luckily, my thin wallet fits well enough in the back pockets of my Levi's mid-rise skinnies, but the front pockets are only 2 1/2 inches deep. This is deep enough to fit my keys, but I like to carry a pen and piece of paper in my pocket all the time. I bought a package of "Palm Key Chain Ballpoint Pens", which are just over 3 inches long and one will fit in the little front pocket perfectly.

Here's an entertaining discussion of the jeans pocket issue I ran across on YouTube recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi2Vgym6lbw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi2Vgym6lbw)
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChristineHaylett on January 03, 2019, 02:54:55 PM
Never really noticed as mostly in a nice dress or skirt but I guess because we use hand bags.

It's an amazing place often filled with sweets, wrappers ,hair bands,a purse, money ,a phone, gloves, keys, sunglasses,drinks,papper,pens ,make up,perfume,portable phone charger ,a umbrella my husband candy and a tiny micro usb stick for absolutely no reason at all.

I have no idea how it all fits in there but it does, it's smaller than a piece of A4 paper.
I feel like Mary poppings. X
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on April 19, 2019, 07:20:21 PM
I found at a thrift store some nice used corduroy women's pants that has deeper pockets.
They are not curvy cut.  Looks like they may never have been worn before, they are in great shape.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: LaRae on April 19, 2019, 08:32:36 PM
Good LORD this was an annoying little discovery upon beginning transition. Imagine my surprise the first time I tried to put my hands/wallet in my pocket and they weren't frigging there! >:(


Oh well, just more excuse to carry my cute purse   :laugh:
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on April 19, 2019, 08:39:27 PM
Quote from: LaRae on April 19, 2019, 08:32:36 PM
Good LORD this was an annoying little discovery upon beginning transition. Imagine my surprise the first time I tried to put my hands/wallet in my pocket and they weren't frigging there! >:(


Oh well, just more excuse to carry my cute purse   :laugh:


Yes!  Purses have their benefits too.

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: KristySims on April 21, 2019, 08:04:19 AM
So I have to share this, and I have to mention I'm still in both worlds (presenting as me about half the time)  since I started coming out this last month and last week was to my only guy friend whom I work with. Who was actually very supportive (Another story) so the funny thing was that the next day I had to meet a soil test guy for a piece of land I am planning to build on so I threw on a pair of jeans and sweater and just planned to go into work afterwards (No meetings that day) so a few hours later I pull in to work, grab my wallet and phone and in the immortal words of Scooby Doo... Ruh Roh! my phone didn't slip inside my pocket yup I had grabbed my girl jeans.  Okay no big deal I took off my sweater and just carried my phone and wallet in...  so what guy carry's his phone and wallet in his hands, I had to kinda hide that in my sweater.  Anyways an hour or so passes and Dave, my co-worker stops by for a break and I grab my bundle of phone, wallet and sweater and then preceded to share with him the reason why I was doing that... which was kinda awesome that I could actually share that I was wearing my Girl jeans and how ridiculous the pockets were.  Needless to say he had no idea they were different (Girls and Guys pants) this led to sharing the button and zipper sides being different and the underwear tags...  I almost thought about telling him we had left and right socks too LOL
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on April 21, 2019, 10:20:56 AM
Quote from: KristySimsx on April 21, 2019, 08:04:19 AM
So I have to share this, and I have to mention I'm still in both worlds (presenting as me about half the time)  since I started coming out this last month and last week was to my only guy friend whom I work with. Who was actually very supportive (Another story) so the funny thing was that the next day I had to meet a soil test guy for a piece of land I am planning to build on so I threw on a pair of jeans and sweater and just planned to go into work afterwards (No meetings that day) so a few hours later I pull in to work, grab my wallet and phone and in the immortal words of Scooby Doo... Ruh Roh! my phone didn't slip inside my pocket yup I had grabbed my girl jeans.  Okay no big deal I took off my sweater and just carried my phone and wallet in...  so what guy carry's his phone and wallet in his hands, I had to kinda hide that in my sweater.  Anyways an hour or so passes and Dave, my co-worker stops by for a break and I grab my bundle of phone, wallet and sweater and then preceded to share with him the reason why I was doing that... which was kinda awesome that I could actually share that I was wearing my Girl jeans and how ridiculous the pockets were.  Needless to say he had no idea they were different (Girls and Guys pants) this led to sharing the button and zipper sides being different and the underwear tags...  I almost thought about telling him we had left and right socks too LOL


:) Funny story!

I love wearing my girl jeans.

Women's and Men's jeans can look similar, providing there are no feminine embellishments!


Chrissy

Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: KristySims on April 21, 2019, 01:10:42 PM
I love mine too! now if we can combine the stretchy girl fabric and the guy pockets BAM! perfect.  I would like to be able to at least keep my phone from sticking a foot out!  Not everyone wants to carry a purse all the time :P
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Kylo on April 21, 2019, 01:16:43 PM
As a girl I used to keep everything in my pockets, I've never had a purse or a handbag... I liked to keep my bank cards, money, etc. on my person and not forgettable. That stuff usually went into my jeans pockets and anything else I needed into the inside pockets of a coat.

The few occasions I wore dresses, that obv has no pockets I'd always wear a coat with them. For some reason I never forget my coat but bags I have forgotten to pick up with me many times.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: TheRitz on April 22, 2019, 04:51:43 AM
I am usually minimalist when I go out.  As in I don't normally like carrying a larger bag with me unless it is absolutely necessary.

I found a clutch like this in size https://www.amazon.com/Book-Spells-Clutch-Vinyl-Material/dp/B073X5YXV6 is easy to deal with tho.  Mines is different and has a bunch of card slots and an see thru ID.  But it also fits my phone well as well as small things.  Its no replacement for a bag, but nor are male jeans sized pockets.  It hangs on your wrist so eventually you will just forget its there, never really gets in the way.

https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/iqql/ Found the one I have, obv it doesnt hafta be a spell book but the size is whats important.  Not too big, not too small.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: ChrissyRyan on April 22, 2019, 05:09:45 AM
I think it would be nice if the pockets were deeper at least, at least on more pants.
We would still always have the option to not use the pockets.  Yay for purses too!

Everybody have a great day!

Chrissy
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: JamesG on April 22, 2019, 08:13:06 AM
Carhartt makes women's jeans/khakis/pants with real pockets.  Same with Dickies and other "work wear" brands.  They also almost always come "unembellished" which is useful if you don't want to scream "I'M WEARING GIRL PANTS!". but your butt is girl shaped.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Linde on April 22, 2019, 08:34:26 AM
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on April 22, 2019, 05:09:45 AM
I think it would be nice if the pockets were deeper at least, at least on more pants.
We would still always have the option to not use the pockets.  Yay for purses too!

Everybody have a great day!

Chrissy
When I was a guy, i preferred the cargo type pants.  I could carry my entire household around in those things!  I still try to find female versions of them, I have two now.  But even the cargo pants in their female rendition have smaller pockets (including the cargo pockets).  I have no idea why this is so, because there is still the same amount of space on the sides of my legs! 
It seems to be some kind of unwritten law that woman's pants have to have little pockets, no matter in which location those pockets are!
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: CynthiaAnn on April 22, 2019, 08:39:42 AM
Quote from: Dietlind on April 22, 2019, 08:34:26 AM
But even the cargo ants in their female rendition have smaller pockets

Fear the female the "Cargo Ants"  ;D

Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Linde on April 22, 2019, 09:05:50 AM
Quote from: CynthiaAnn on April 22, 2019, 08:39:42 AM
Fear the female the "Cargo Ants"  ;D
Yes, they are very mean and vicious critters.  If properly trained, women can use them for self defense and don't need handguns!
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: JamesG on April 22, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
Quote from: Dietlind on April 22, 2019, 08:34:26 AM

It seems to be some kind of unwritten law that woman's pants have to have little pockets, no matter in which location those pockets are!

They signal "small" "petite". etc.
Title: Re: Why are the pockets on women’s pants often so shallow?
Post by: Josie_L on April 22, 2019, 12:48:42 PM
To sum up.. style, fashion and femininity. x