What plants and herbs can I take to start my breast growth before starting ht?
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Thank you, I'm having a hard time with the board format. Not mobile friendly. Is there an app or a mobile friendly version of the site I should be aware of?
Quote from: V M on March 24, 2019, 10:06:25 PM
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Also, my search for breast development returns no results.
I'm having a very difficult time navigating the site.
Quote from: RennyPop on March 25, 2019, 08:28:24 AM
Also, my search for breast development returns no results.
I'm having a very difficult time navigating the site.
@RennyPop Near the upper right hand corner of any Forums page there is a
Search box.
Type in
"Breast Development" or perhaps
"Breast Growth" ...
either entree will provide
lots of results that will give you pertinent information.
Also you should look through the many postings and comments in the
Male to Female Transsexual Talk (Mtf) section of the Forums.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?board=51.0Plan to take some time to do some searching and reading and you should find answers to many of your questions.
Best Wishes to you,
Danielle
Quote from: RennyPop on March 24, 2019, 09:40:42 PM
What plants and herbs can I take to start my breast growth before starting ht?
Why not go for hormones? That's what I'm planning on doing and my appointment with the endocrinologist is in about 3 weeks. Depending on where you are, you may be able to get them on informed consent, as I will be doing.
Quote from: RennyPop on March 25, 2019, 08:25:46 AM
Thank you, I'm having a hard time with the board format. Not mobile friendly. Is there an app or a mobile friendly version of the site I should be aware of?
Download the Tapatalk app on your mobile. I actually like it better than the web version most of the time.
I see what Rennypop is saying- I don't get any returns using the search either. I tried off of several different pages including the home page.
Quote from: Anastasia on March 26, 2019, 02:41:40 PM
I see what Rennypop is saying- I don't get any returns using the search either. I tried off of several different pages including the home page.
@Anastasia As with most search engines, one has to be careful to be very precise with as few words as possible, otherwise too many words and/or conjunctions can confuse or negate the search process and will result in the following message:
"Your search query didn't return any matches."***NOTE: Are you at the very least getting that message when you try to search? ???
Near the upper right hand corner of any
Susan's Place Forums page
there is a Search Box (
not your browser or Google web search box)
Type in (exactly)
Breast Development or perhaps
Breast Growth ...either
2 word entree will provide lots of results showing postings that will give you pertinent information.
Danielle
To actually address your question, I have not found that herbs are particularly effective. I tried a course of fenugreek and I just ended up smelling of maple syrup with dry nipples..
I have found that regular breast massage, breast pumping and nipple stimulation have worked for me. I now need a bra all the time for support and for nipple modesty. Going braless gives me a lot of wobble, plus nipple chafe.
I love my nipple suction teats, but I am regularly filling them with skimmed milk drops now. I am still dry on the regular breast pump, but my the suction of nipple teats is doing something!
I just noticed there are 2 search boxes, one at the very top of the page above the Susan's Place Banner that returns nothing and one lower down at the top of the forum that works fine.
Quote from: RandyL on March 25, 2019, 10:15:32 PM
Download the Tapatalk app on your mobile.
Yes, download the Tapatalk app if you prefer using your mobile :)
@RennyPop:
Here is my own personal experience and thoughts regarding the subject of breast enlargement, I am aware that there are others that may have their own views...
...While herbals do have properties that can increase breast size, usually it ends up being much more expensive and takes a much longer time to achieve any kind of appreciable results that usually pale in comparison to what an actual HRT regimen can provide under medical supervision.... plus herbals can have interactions with over-the-counter and prescription drugs that can pose real health risks especially in the higher doses of herbals that may be carelessly taken without regular blood test monitoring by a physician.
Herbals, even though they may have some estrogen-like properties are very, very weak as compared to doctor prescribed HRT, estrogen and T-Blockers.
Breast pumps will provide almost immediate temporary enlargement but the enlargement can revert back to the smaller size until you want to pump again. Eventually with persistent pumping some enlargement may be longer lasting.
In my personal experience, after just a little less than a year of doctor prescribed HRT, I had a full A-Cup, and well before my 2nd year ended I had a full B-Cup and as I approached 2 1/2 years of HRT I had a C-Cup.
I have never used creams, lotions, pumps or anything like that.
The bottom line is that I would strongly recommend real doctor monitored HRT for faster, more significant results and lasting enlargement.
Any body changes that happen with HRT are very dependent on each individual's genetic makeup that determines how quickly and how significantly the changes take place.
Some will see more significant changes more quickly and some will see less significant changes more slowly.... Every body reacts differently and in it's own way.
There is a saying here on the forums:`
YMMV meaning "
Your
Mileage
May
Vary"
Usually not much happens very quickly with HRT but things will happen....
Patience is definitely required!!!
Danielle
Quote from: Anastasia on March 26, 2019, 05:51:31 PM
I just noticed there are 2 search boxes, one at the very top of the page above the Susan's Place Banner that returns nothing and one lower down at the top of the forum that works fine.
@Anastasia @RennyPopYES, the search box just BELOW and to the right of the
Red Susan's Place Banner
is the one
to use... it always works for me.
Danielle
Herbs are not compatible with the human body in a lot of cases and in case of over consumption.
Phytoestrogens are so low in estrogenic-activity that you would have to take pounds and pounds of them to achieve small results.
Anyone wanting breast growth and other feminizing changes, would be better to go to their GP and explain the situation. Many doctors don't require psychiatric approval anymore for HRT, these days. My doctor didn't require it at all. Got my HRT prescription on the first visit after 15 minutes.
Gatekeeping is becoming rare in most developed countries these days.
QuoteAnyone wanting breast growth and other feminizing changes, would be better to go to their GP and explain the situation.
That's what I did and I think I'm noticing some changes now. I started HRT on April 17.
HRT will be your best bet. I tried going to herbal stores and vitamin stores but all the clerk's said the items they have won't produce much result.
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I noticed that I have a good two to two and half inches difference now between the measurements across my nipples and across my underbust. My B cup bra is filled out now more than ever! :) :)
I do need to get another bra as I threw out a worn-out one earlier this month and I only have one bra now. It is a Bali.
Any "make and model of bra" suggestions are welcomed! Are underwire bras uncomfortable?
Chrissy
You have been on HRT for only 1.5 months. Your breast buds should be forming and your nipples going from tingles to fully inflamed. It's a marathon not a sprint. Almost three years in, my aureola's and nipples are maturing. I have nice C cups and really don't want too much bigger. Of course everybody is different and you may experience some other factors. I too started in my mid 60's. I refuse to wear "granny" clothes and until I wrinkle up like a prune I'm wearing makeup.
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on May 28, 2019, 08:08:31 AM
I noticed that I have a good two to two and half inches difference now between the measurements across my nipples and across my underbust. My B cup bra is filled out now moe than ever! :) :)
I do need to get another bra as I threw out an worn-out one earlier this month and I only have one bra now. It is a Bali.
Any "make and model of bra" suggestions are welcomed! Are underwire bras uncomfortable?
Chrissy
Most women think underwires are uncomfortable. So do I ;) You should only need them if your breasts slip out of the bra, or for certain pushup models. Typically used by women at D or above.
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Quote from: DawnOday on May 28, 2019, 10:51:29 AM
You have been on HRT for only 1.5 months. Your breast buds should be forming and your nipples going from tingles to fully inflamed. It's a marathon not a sprint. Almost three years in, my aureola's and nipples are maturing. I have nice C cups and really don't want too much bigger. Of course everybody is different and you may experience some other factors. I too started in my mid 60's. I refuse to wear "granny" clothes and until I wrinkle up like a prune I'm wearing makeup.
I really like your new avatar, Dawn!
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Quote from: ChrissyRyan on May 28, 2019, 08:08:31 AM
I noticed that I have a good two to two and half inches difference now between the measurements across my nipples and across my underbust. My B cup bra is filled out now moe than ever! :) :)
I do need to get another bra as I threw out an worn-out one earlier this month and I only have one bra now. It is a Bali.
Any "make and model of bra" suggestions are welcomed! Are underwire bras uncomfortable?
Chrissy
My girls seem to be still growing. I need new ones every few months. I don't want to buy costly contraptions. I go either to Walmart, but mostly on Amazon. I always buy a white, a skin color and a black bra to have something for under all my stuff. I currently buy only the more soft, close to sports bra, versions.
Quote from: RandyL on May 28, 2019, 11:26:33 AM
Most women think underwires are uncomfortable. So do I ;) You should only need them if your breasts slip out of the bra, or for certain pushup models. Typically used by women at D or above.
Underwires should not be at all uncomfortable if they fit. The wire curve must fit the curve of the under-breast, and be positioned correctly... and of course the rest of the bra must also be the right shape and size.
The bra is one of the most structured/engineered articles of clothing on the market today. There are literally thousands of size and shape variations—including the cross-section of the rib cage and breast shape and position. Thus, you really can't/mustn't choose just by cup and band size. If the entirety does not fit, even the best bra will be as uncomfortable as any other article tailored for someone not your size and shape.
On the other hand, a well fitting one should be practically unnoticeable.
zirconia, you are so correct. Every bra style and manufacture is different. Best way to find the correct bra is try on many different sizes and styles until you find one that fit and moves with you and as zironia said the right one will feel like you not even wearing most of the time. Underwire styles are great for someone needing the support or want to raise them up. Again it may take some looking to find the right one for you. I have spent over an hour trying on bras until I found one that I liked.
Quote from: RandyL on May 28, 2019, 11:26:33 AM
Most women think underwires are uncomfortable. So do I ;) You should only need them if your breasts slip out of the bra, or for certain pushup models. Typically used by women at D or above.
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Thank you Randy.
Chrissy
Thank you zirconia and mm. I obviously have never tried that hard for a good fit, and neither has my wife or many of her friends. But sounds like it can be done and is probably worthwhile.
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Quote from: RandyL on May 28, 2019, 11:26:33 AM
Most women think underwires are uncomfortable. So do I ;) You should only need them if your breasts slip out of the bra, or for certain pushup models. Typically used by women at D or above.
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@RandyL Dear Randy:Most of my bras are underwire, I like how they shape my front "display" .... exceptions are my sports bras.
I am a full C-Cup and I
do not find the underwire bras uncomfortable at all.
But of course as
@zirconia stated in her reply post, if the fit is correct then they should not be uncomfortable.
HUGS,
Danielle
Quote from: mm on May 28, 2019, 01:26:04 PM
zirconia, you are so correct. Every bra style and manufacture is different. Best way to find the correct bra is try on many different sizes and styles until you find one that fit and moves with you and as zironia said the right one will feel like you not even wearing most of the time. Underwire styles are great for someone needing the support or want to raise them up. Again it may take some looking to find the right one for you. I have spent over an hour trying on bras until I found one that I liked.
All bras feel uncomfortable if the outside temps approach 100º! With temps like this, the best bra is no bra, and one even wishes the boobs would not be able to hold a pencil in the air. Even those skin folds are just two skin folds to many!
Quote from: zirconia on May 28, 2019, 01:08:50 PM
Underwires should not be at all uncomfortable if they fit. The wire curve must fit the curve of the under-breast, and be positioned correctly... and of course the rest of the bra must also be the right shape and size.
The bra is one of the most structured/engineered articles of clothing on the market today. There are literally thousands of size and shape variations—including the cross-section of the rib cage and breast shape and position. Thus, you really can't/mustn't choose just by cup and band size. If the entirety does not fit, even the best bra will be as uncomfortable as any other article tailored for someone not your size and shape.
On the other hand, a well fitting one should be practically unnoticeable.
Thank you Zirconia!
Chrissy
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on May 28, 2019, 06:46:47 PM
@RandyL
Dear Randy:
Most of my bras are underwire, I like how they shape my front "display" .... exceptions are my sports bras.
I am a full C-Cup and I do not find the underwire bras uncomfortable at all.
But of course as @zirconia stated in her reply post, if the fit is correct then they should not be uncomfortable.
HUGS,
Danielle
Danielle,
Thank you for your reply.
Chrissy
Quote from: Linde on May 28, 2019, 07:32:31 PM
All bras feel uncomfortable if the outside temps approach 100º!
100º C or F? ;)
Quote from: AnneK on May 28, 2019, 09:36:51 PM
100º C or F? ;)
100º C would kind of shrivel me up, and render me edible for the alligators around here!
I am in southern Florida, and we would measure it 100º F
Quote from: DebbySoufflage on May 04, 2019, 09:26:57 PMHerbs are not compatible with the human body in a lot of cases and in case of over consumption.
Phytoestrogens are so low in estrogenic-activity that you would have to take pounds and pounds of them to achieve small results.
Anyone wanting breast growth and other feminizing changes, would be better to go to their GP and explain the situation. Many doctors don't require psychiatric approval anymore for HRT, these days. My doctor didn't require it at all. Got my HRT prescription on the first visit after 15 minutes.
Gatekeeping is becoming rare in most developed countries these days.
That wasn't my experience at all. I was taking a relatively small amount of herbal supplements and took this photo the day I was going to see my doctor about prescription HRT.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNWl5v3p.jpg&hash=1038fa58e61726f9775e170688cb5f51c9bd4bb6) (https://imgur.com/NWl5v3p)
Quote from: Devlyn on January 05, 2024, 08:09:49 AMThat wasn't my experience at all. I was taking a relatively small amount of herbal supplements and took this photo the day I was going to see my doctor about prescription HRT.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNWl5v3p.jpg&hash=1038fa58e61726f9775e170688cb5f51c9bd4bb6) (https://imgur.com/NWl5v3p)
Same for me. I was getting a lot of development on herbs. Unfortunately, unsupervised intake of an estrogenic compound led to a blood clot in my leg, which could have killed me. In my opinion, pharma HRT is much safer that herbal compounds of questionable origin - and easy to get in many states. In my opinion, if you feel strongly enough about transitioning to want to take something, you might as well see a doc and do it with professional guidance.
Big hug! Sorry to hear about your blood clot.
That's essentially what I told my doctor: "I'm too old to keep taking things without knowing what's going on inside me. I want you to supervise my HRT."
The first thing she said was "We'll get you right on HRT after a blood test. Now I want to know about those supplements, cuz DAYUM!" ;D
Hugs, Devlyn
Quote from: Devlyn on January 05, 2024, 11:51:53 AMBig hug! Sorry to hear about your blood clot.
That's essentially what I told my doctor: "I'm too old to keep taking things without knowing what's going on inside me. I want you to supervise my HRT."
The first thing she said was "We'll get you right on HRT after a blood test. Now I want to know about those supplements, cuz DAYUM!" ;D
Hugs, Devlyn
Thanks! That's a super cute outfit, by the way.
I get that. When I used to lurk here, I was quite surprised at how many people completely dismissed the herbal route. It wasn't just "you can't talk about them because they might not be safe"; it was "you can't talk about them because they're all wrong and they don't work at all." That kind of closed-mindedness is very off-putting to me.
That said, we're putting drugs into our bodies, the result of which can have very serious consequences. For many locations, pharma HRT is easier to acquire than ever, so that's the smart route.
It is very affirming to have breast development for sure. I have had spurts.
Chrissy
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It is very affirming to have breast development for sure. I have had spurts.
Chrissy
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Adamantly agree! My fifth year, they feel like I've had them for ever! C cups in one brand B in another, D in yet another. And I like underwires, front clip! Glamorise. I've a drawer full, all types. Push up to daly wear T-shirt style. Its all about the fit, regardless of manufacturer's sizings. Find a manufacturer or 2 and don't worry about size. It will come. One way or another.
The ultimate question for us ladies, which type of bra do we choose. Wired bra versus non-wired bra? Long story short, I wear cotton non-wired sports bras, pretty much all the time. Except on special occasions, I wear something special.
I remember in my earlier days choosing bras, wired, and with color and thrills to boot. What women does not want to feel sexy when wearing bras? To be honest, it's totally up to you, what you choose, whether a wired style or a non-wired one. Each style comes with their own set of pros and cons.
For me wired bras were a pain for general use, wired poked out of the material and were basically used to support larger breasts, my breasts are not that large only a C cup and the materials used did not soak up perspiration.
I needed bras that soaked up perspiration. The reason being I do a lot of swimming and when you exercise your body heats up and perspiration ensues and as a result my body has become very efficient at releasing heat. So eventually I ended up with non-wired, cotton sports bra.
So pick your bra based on your need, your outfit and the kind of support you're looking for. Wired bras for medium to larger sized breasts, while non-wired styles for the smaller breasts. That does not mean small breasts cannot have a wired style or vice versa. You can base your choice on the occasion such as a wireless bra works for lounging around at home, while a wired bra will work for an evening out or dinner date.
Unless of course you need a "over the shoulder boulder holder", in which case I cannot help you there.
Best wishes and make sure they are comfortable to wear.
Sarah B