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A few members have asked me to review my experience using PAI for my surgeries and why I chose them.

It was a hard decision and I visited Dr Suporn twice and Dr Chettawut, I had my own issues with both of them. With Suporn it was his poor location at Chanbury, his dismal class 3 hospital and his service apartment was not up to my standards. But most if all it took him 6 to 7 hours for the srs and he could not manage to do my ffs under one GA. Being under GA for that time bothered me as I have read alot on the surgery and it should only take 3 hours.   He was reluctant to answer some questions and was not willing to confirm extra services.

Dr Chettawut, again poor location, 7 hours for srs surgery and the real problem was surgery in his clinic. Didn't like the Vertical Suites and could not offer me additional services.

So I went to PAI which my therapist recommended. I met with Dr Preecha who owns the clinic and was the father of modern penile inversion technique and he is the teacher of Dr Suporn and Dr Chettawut. The clinic is modern and looked good, it's in the Thonglor area which is the in area for young wealthy Thais and expats who live in Bangkok. Lots of bars, clubs and restraunts.

Dr Preecha  professed that he was too old to do the SRS but the he had 2 top surgeons and I opted for Dr Sutin. He also recommended that I do all three surgeries at one go ...srs, BA and FFS.  With 3 surgeons and their team. Dr Preecha did my BA. Dr Surachai for ffs, Dr Sutin for srd and of course a great anesthetist.

The hospital they use is 5 star ...Piyavate Hospital, and used by many other srs surgeons. They have a dedicated team of surgeries and 15 nurses.... for srs which included a dedicated team that did all the hair follicle scraping for all srs surgeries. I had 15 nurse assisting.

My ffs included brow shaving, rhinoplasty, facelift and upper lip fat transfer. I had a ba with teardrop shape of 320cc under the muscle. My srs I wanted 6 inches depth and did not want alot of skin in the labia minora.the surgery took 4.5 hours and the ffs took the longe
st

I wanted extra service which was easily accommodated. I had a vip suite in the hospital and a private nurse. The private nurse was my crutch and she really made the experience wonderful.

I did have nausea after the surgery despite the anti nausea medication and my nurse and assistant held my hand all night as I threw up ...or tried to. Once they stopped the morphine drip some 19 hours after the operation my nausea disappeared. More important I had zero pain ...some discomfort but that was it.

I walked after 30 plus hours. I stayed in the hospital for 7 days and I must say the care was superb. I walked around the hospital daily. Over the course of 7 days my breast bandages were removed and saw my new breast ....gorgeous. has my face bandages removed and then my lower bandages removed and the packing taken out ... finally had the catheder removed. ....all painless ....no medication other than Tylenol. Walked out of the hospital feeling wonderful and bought the staff chocolates.

They day after I was picked up by car from my service apartment and was introduced to the dilating technique. My private nurse stayed with me at the apartment.  I remember Jessie saying that I was too active but after two days of dilating at 6 inches and going out for 8 hours I developed a tear.. this made dilating more painful but it was my fault for not following advice.

So the first 2.5 weeks of dilating was quite an ordeal and had constant pain and ache. But now it's all calmed down.

Had my final checkup a few days ago all is well. My ffs was brilliant and Dr Surachai was the surgeon ...little swelling and no bruising.  My breath are fully recovered and the swelling diminishing. The srs was brilliant and looks so real and beautiful.

I am ever so glad to have chosen PAI and I can highly recommend them.

A Big Congratulations :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:

Thanks for posting that.

Congratulations on your surgery; I'm happy for you! And it sounds like your accommodations are adequate, and that you are receiving the VIP treatment you expected, so everything seems to be going swimmingly. Best wishes :)

It's nice to hear uplifting stories. Thank you for posting. I'm sure this will be welcomed by others seeking surgery outside the US.

Thanks for that story. :)

There are not that many reviews of PAI so it can help people imo *hugs*

Here were a few hints for after SRS ... some people use probiotic pessaries to install a healthy flora ...
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,190515.msg1697107.html#msg1697107

just talk it all through with your doc ...
but many people have been helped by them..


*hugs*

you've given me courage

Congrats!  You seem so happy:)

I have just had srs with PAI,  currently post op day 3.

The nurses here are so lovely.  I hope my results are as good as yours.

Xx

Oh wow. I will PM you now.

Congratulations!  You look great and I am so happy for you.  You really did your research and that homework paid off.  You stuck to your priorities and have successfully negotiated a very big deal.  Wonderful indeed.

Thank you for sharing and thereby adding to our knowledge base around here.

Congratulations on your good experience. I was recommended to your post since I'm looking for info on Dr Preecha and PAI and they're my top choice. I'd still like to hear more from them but I'm pretty sure I'll be going with him. Hugs

You can't pm me as you do t have enough posts.. you can email me at bobbyhk88@ yahoo.com . I will try and answer any questions.

Hi There
Is it ok to ask you the complete costs?
I am just at the start of my transition and have started saving.

Kiwi

Hi Kiwi, the cost of the SRS was usd 8,600, the BA ( teardrop ) was usd 6,000 and the FFS was usd 16,500. This includes 7 days in the hospital in a private room. You then need to stay in a service apt near the clinic . ..that's extra- the one across the road they have a discount and .is around usd 65 per day. Thete is free breakfast ... but food is really cheap in the area and great .

Hope this helps

Thanks
That's a great help
I am also thinking of having all the surgeries together


Kiwi

Thanks for sharing Warlockmaker :)

Thank you so much for posting this review. I am strongly leaning in favour of PAI now for my orchiectomy and will be seeing Dr Preecha for a consult in 2 weeks. There is so much content in your post which ticks my own boxes. Each to their own and all that but what you shared about the staff, the hospital, the standard of care all floats my particular boat.

The orchie is stage 1 on the way to GRS, BA, FFS and anything else I can get done  ;D

Fantastic review.

Very pleased it went well for you.

I am terrified of general anaesthetic - I've had a couple and been fine, but the thought of GA keeps me awake in terror. The last time I had one I had to be sedated first, and the final emotion I remember in the anaesthetic room was panic, and fear that it could be the last moment of life I ever lived. Not helped by them having to use a strap to raise the vein. Anyone else or just me?

I have a senior pilot friend with one of the world's leading airlines. He flies hundreds of thousands of miles, does scuba diving, parachuting, drag racing. You name it and he does. But when he had to have a GA last year I had to counsel him for 24 hours beforehand. He was absolutely terrified. So you're not alone ;)

Quote from: alex82 on June 07, 2016, 09:41:34 AM
I am terrified of general anaesthetic - I've had a couple and been fine, but the thought of GA keeps me awake in terror. The last time I had one I had to be sedated first, and the final emotion I remember in the anaesthetic room was panic, and fear that it could be the last moment of life I ever lived. Not helped by them having to use a strap to raise the vein. Anyone else or just me?

Its not really a rational fear as it is quite safe, but I guess you know that. I think I'd ask if they could give you any medication prior next time, perhaps some anti-anxiety meds or something. I think you'd need to ask the anesthesiologist to be safe.

I've been under GA a few times and its doesn't bother me in the slightest. The canula they put in beforehand though makes me feel sick. Its ridiculous, but I find the idea of SRS less stressful than having an injection.

Quote from: AnonyMs on June 07, 2016, 10:18:22 AM
Its not really a rational fear as it is quite safe, but I guess you know that. I think I'd ask if they could give you any medication prior next time, perhaps some anti-anxiety meds or something. I think you'd need to ask the anesthesiologist to be safe.

I've been under GA a few times and its doesn't bother me in the slightest. The canula they put in beforehand though makes me feel sick. Its ridiculous, but I find the idea of SRS less stressful than having an injection.

It's not so much the injection - it's that surrendering control and potentially never knowing anything more. Again totally irrational, because I've been quite happy to surrender to morphine on waking up.

I'm exactly the same - the surgery doesn't particularly phase me. If you have to do something, you have to do it. It's purely the GA, and even having had it before has done nothing to help that fear. I woke up crying with relief that I was still alive.

Even the fact that I know it doesn't make me nauseous or depressed, which I hear are very common, does nothing. I actually react to it in a really good way but I can't get the fear gone. I'll definitely be asking for a stronger sedative than last time, and (good idea - thank you) from the anaesthetist having explained all this, rather than a pre med nurse on the ward.

Blood though - I faint at the sight of it. Did when they removed the drain last time, did at a bris of a clients new son I was invited to, did when i cut my finger on kitchen scissors. Hot and weak and gone - every time.

I'd happily go abroad for this when the time comes, so I found the review fascinating. But do these private hospitals all have full crash teams and casualty departments on site? That's why I think oh, seed of doubt.

Quote from: alex82 on June 07, 2016, 10:48:26 AM
It's not so much the injection - it's that surrendering control and potentially never knowing anything more.

That's exactly what my pilot friend said. Which is intriguing because lots of people are terrified of flying and yet when you pause and think about the statistics of that it's an incredibly safe way to travel. You're statistically more likely to be killed by a Spanish donkey than die in an air crash. My fear of flying was cured by living under a flightpath. Plane after plane descended hour by hour, day by day.

The statistics on a GA procedure are likewise incredibly favourable, if that helps at all?

Hugs x

Congrats and wow that is a lot to get done at once.

If it is ok what did they do with the ffs for that amount as it is where I will be starting then working downwards :)

Hi Sarah.  For the Ffs I had the following done:

1. Had a brow shave
2. Lower the hairline
3. Raised the eye brow
4. My nostril was narrowed and the tip shortened.
5. Fatty tissue in the upper lip
6. A rejuvenating face lift .

This was the longest of the 3 surgeries but I had a fantastic surgeon and now 5 months later I have no visible scars .

You're so beautiful. I'd love to have something like that done. Can I ask which surgeon performed the ffs?

xx

Hi Richende ..

The surgeon was Dr Burin at PAI. He is very highly regarded. Unlike some surgeons he keeps your personality in yourface and does not perform radical change. His work was fantastic ...I had no bruising and little swelling and OMG his stitching was just brilliant.

I can send some pre, shortly after surgery and my present look pic is in my profile. I don't know how to do pics on the forum so maybe if you want pm me and give me your e mail .

Oh wow. He's the one who will be doing my orchiectomy next month: the first stage I hope :)

Yay! Just pm'd you :)

Chen x

You will love him...

So happy to hear that :)

I know girls tend to get a bit evangelical about their preferred surgical team but I've loved everything about PAI so far: the spectrum from things like answering emails promptly, politeness, proper hospital base, to detailed after care protocols.

I also like the fact that there's a trained team. As I'd like several stages to my surgery across a range of procedures (not just down below) I don't want to be reliant on a single individual.

I could go on but you'll know what I mean :)

x

Quote from: warlockmaker on June 13, 2016, 09:35:57 PM
Hi Sarah.  For the Ffs I had the following done:

1. Had a brow shave
2. Lower the hairline
3. Raised the eye brow
4. My nostril was narrowed and the tip shortened.
5. Fatty tissue in the upper lip
6. A rejuvenating face lift .

This was the longest of the 3 surgeries but I had a fantastic surgeon and now 5 months later I have no visible scars .

Thank you.

I contacted them last night to get an idea of what I might need down the track and they recommended I get:

Quote
Base on your pictures, our doctors are recommend
1. Lower Hairline Surgery to raise hairline at least 1.5 CM+.
2. Nose Hump Shaving (Nose Reconstruction Surgery).
3. Brow Bossing surgery.

...Since these procedures are able to be perform at the same time.  If done together, we are able to reduce the cost by a further 1,300 USD.

I like how quickly they checked my photos and replied. I need to ask them a few questions sooner than later however such as:

"Does hump refer to the bridge being taken inwards --> <--- to create a thinner profile of the nose from the front or just ye old bump from a side view. As the term hump seems very generic of a term?"

"when they say 1.5cm+ can it be brought down to 3cm+ to get it in the correct range as that is a issue I hate about my hair."

How soon is it safe to fly long haul after facial surgery?

I mean, I don't want to be in agony for 13 hours with no way off.

Hi Alex...ffs is mostly a painless recovery. The reason is that as they lift the skin the nerves are detached and can take up to 6 months before full sensitivity returns, though most senation returns in about 3 weeks. This numbness are at the stitch lines.

You can normally fly after the stitches are removed ...normally 7 to 10 days later.

Quote from: warlockmaker on June 15, 2016, 09:08:46 PM
Hi Alex...ffs is mostly a painless recovery. The reason is that as they lift the skin the nerves are detached and can take up to 6 months before full sensitivity returns, though most senation returns in about 3 weeks. This numbness are at the stitch lines.

You can normally fly after the stitches are removed ...normally 7 to 10 days later.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for this <3 Would anyone here have any idea about a voice surgery at PAI? I have a very low pitch, and I wanted to consider their surgery, but there isn't enough feedback for it.

I'm going to be talking to them about this Meera as well as FFS when I'm there at the end of the month so I will get back to you with any info I pick up.

Chen x

Quote from: Richenda on July 11, 2016, 05:13:35 AM
I'm going to be talking to them about this Meera as well as FFS when I'm there at the end of the month so I will get back to you with any info I pick up.

Chen x

Thank you so much, Richenda <3 That will help me a lot. If you remember, can you leave a mail after your consultation at: varshney.neer@gmail.com

Quote from: Richenda on July 11, 2016, 05:13:35 AM
I'm going to be talking to them about this Meera as well as FFS when I'm there at the end of the month so I will get back to you with any info I pick up.

Do you plan on getting FFS and VFS at the same time? That would be really awesome...

I'm having an orchiectomy to begin with but would be open to having both FFS and VFS same time. I think Warlockmaker did this?

p.s. Meera: brilliant - I will do x

PAI has a group of surgeons that excell in different surgeries. They also have certain surgeons that do more Asians and surgeons that are better with Caucasians. I've asked Jessie about VFS and will be going in for my 6 month checkup and will follow up...but Richenda will be there also so both of us will pursue this.

It's a one stop surgery clinic with world class proven surgeons ...don't think the other surgeons elsewhere can do this as their huge egos prevents co operation .

I had ffs, srs and ba with 3 surgeons at the same time and thus significantly the GA time.

Personal question but this one is my biggest fear regarding GRS, but are you able to orgasm post-op?

Everyone says so, Serena. 3 months after is the oft-quoted figure from people posting on here. Like you, I'd think twice if it weren't the case but I don't think you should be too concerned about it judging by the feedback. Apparently it can be incredible because the prostate sits right behind the new clitoris making for a very deep sensation.

Actually this isn't related but I was expecting my orchiectomy to wipe out my libido. It's done nothing of the sort  :P :o

I've read that some post-op lose sensation. I first thought about going to Thailand for GRS after reading "Redefining Realness" by Janet Mock and it's affordability. If I can just get reviews of girls who went to Thailand for theirs saying they are still able to have sensation then I'm 100% sold.  ::)

There were 3 girls having their srs in Bangkok at around the same time as mine. We got to know each other well and to this day we communicate regularly. ALL of us had orgasmn after 3 months.

Thank you so much for the detailed information on your procedures.  Reading about your experiences and results give me more confidence that my age (same as yours) is not an obstacle.

Trisha K

I forgot to ask..........Did you complete this in Thailand all on your own or did you have support aside from PAI staff (friend, companion, etc.)?

Hi Trish, I know this thread and that question was ref. Warlockmaker but I've referred to your same question just now here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,212657.new.html#new

x

Hi Trish...I had my assistant keep me company and she was always there for me. Not knowing how I would recover and if I would have pain I thought I should have someone around. I decided not to have a family member.... I didn't want to have any drama which tends to happen with family constantly present.

Quote from: SerenaOhSerena on July 31, 2016, 09:19:49 PM
I've read that some post-op lose sensation. I first thought about going to Thailand for GRS after reading "Redefining Realness" by Janet Mock and it's affordability. If I can just get reviews of girls who went to Thailand for theirs saying they are still able to have sensation then I'm 100% sold.  ::)

I need to read her book. I never knew she went to Thailand for her surgery. Did she mention her doctor ?


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Dear Warlockmaker

Im really happy that your surgery went off well. Hope you are all healed and enjoying the life you always wanted.

May I please know about the following?

1. Depth
2. Sensitivity - Orgasm?
3. Aesthetics - hair issue, especially inside vagina?

I look forward to your reply. If possible, please share your email address. Thank you very much!

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Depth: 6.5 Inches (16.51cm)
Sensate: Yes very
Aesthetics: Beautiful. Some hair just inside vaginal opening but I pluck it. If it is a concern, you should have electro or laser done on the section from the base of the penis to the anus prior to surgery, especially if you have extensive hair in that region. This applies to all doctors.

Thank you Susan  :)

Since srs my life has been all I imagined and more. Each day brings new wonders.
My depth is 6ins, clitoral and vaginal orgasms outstanding, aesthetics perfect. Removed the hairs at the entrance with laser post op. Just thrilled to live my second life in one lifetime.

@Warlockmaker

So happy for you *Heart*

I might have my Gender Confirmation Surgery at PAI this December :D

Best wishes

Hi Warlock maker thx so much for all your info. Im starting to realize that the expense of US Dr's is not in the picture. Consults with Dr Spiegel have proven upwards OF 85K US and with exchange rates it pushes over 120k

From what I have read the Surgeons at PAI seem to be just as qualified as US Dr's. I have always been a bit concerned about the quality of care and what if something goes wrong under anaesthetic? Im 57 so its a very small concern but still warrants thought. Other things are hospital cleanliness and after care.

You have put my mind at ease somewhat and will start to move forward with consults. Will have to check and see if they can do Skype now. Im afraid Im in western Canada so a visit before hand is not an option.

Warlock maker I hope you don't mind a PM or two. Would like to find out more detailed info from you.

Once again great info and Im so Happy for you and the results achieved.

Huggs Niki Marie

I was a bit overweight and so they were concerned about me being under anesthesia too long, but i had no issues.

Niki, please do PM me if you have any questions.

Hi, @warlockmaker.
I am thinking of having FFS in Thailand.
Probably need hairline lowering, chin filling and jaw shaving.
Do you have any recommendation?
Some friends mentioned Kamol. Is he good?

Quote from: warlockmaker on August 08, 2017, 08:23:29 PM
Niki, please do PM me if you have any questions.

Did you have penile inversion or sigmoid?

Here I go resurrecting an older conversation, but I have questions about secondary procedures.  Then again this is such a good thread it may be worth getting it back to the top of the list.
I am still seriously considering a long stay-cation to Bangkok for a series of feminizing and rejuvenation related procedures.  From my searching, because Thailand is such a mecca for all plastic surgeries, the options can be endless and many do not do a good job of explaining their quality and effectiveness.  May be due to limitations for medical services to brag or go into detail by law.

That said, I am mostly interested in stem cell therapies.  There seems to be a plethora of therapies that stem cells have potential good results.  My interests are in the area of knee repair, hair regrowth and general body rejuvenation via IV. 
Questions. 1) Does PAI offer these services and results?  It would be nice if PAI had a complete list of procedures included minor ones they offer if it is an option that is just not included on their website. If not PAI, who does equally good results as PAI does for feminizing services?

As a function of acquiring stem cells a Liposuction is done.  It seems to be the same process, so that the notion of not only doing stem cell therapies that need for body shaping and fat transfer (Brazilian butt lift!!! OMG yes!).  So my big picture question is, does PAI offer any such procedures along with stem cell freezing to preserve cells for additional use later?

Also, does PAI offer electrolysis.  I have blond /gray hair that does not respond well to laser?

And finally, I have run across Estetica Thailandia and it seems to be a good way to traverse the options that are available once in Bangkok but have not contacted Cheree yet.  Any reviews of her actual services?

Here I am almost 3 years later. I now live in Bangkok, speak and write thai and have adopted Thailand as my home. Each day is filled with wonderment as I absorb the knowledge and life as a female in a place where there is no gender discrimination from the population.

Bangkok has a very large option when seeking cosmetic clinics. Almost every middle class thais have had treatments and or facial  and body shaping treatments and surgeries. Stem cell clinics are abundant with foreign technology.

PAI offers various beauty treatments but Stem cells and electrolysis are not on their list. I can refer you to Stem Cell clinics web sites, they are less expensive than the West by 30 to 50 pct, but still costly. The secondary procedures post SRS cost around usd 3, 000. I am thinking about it but the aesthetics look great already and I have super orgasms both clitorally and vagina. So maybe not needed.

I use other clinics for botox and minor fillers. Have weekly facials and work out daily in health studios daily.

Electrolysis is only offered at Yanhee Hospital. Its a great service that offers numbing injections and painless. I had a few sessions to remove thise pesky white stragglers.

Hope this helps.

Thank you Bobbie for sharing this wonderful experience you had with PAI.

After reading this, I am now more inclined to having PAI do my FFS. I'm going to BKK this first week of November and I plan on having a consultation with them. Would like to know who among them can do the best FFS? Ive read you had Dr. Surachai, you look amazing and beautiful. I've also read here in the forums about Dr. Sutin which I'm also very keen on having. Brief overview about me, I have Asian features as I'm Filipina so if you have any insights on who among them would be best to consult with, it'll be a pleasure to know. Based on my self-assessment, I think I need forehead contouring/brow bossing as I have prominent brow ridge T_T and alongside that would be hairline advancement and brow lift, my jawline is not angular but i find it wide so I think I need jawline reduction too. I find my nose wide so I think i need alarplasty as well and adjustment after forehead contouring. I also plan to do BA alongside FFS. I prefer it around 500cc as I have a wide chest/broad shoulders. I'm 5'3" and around 130 lbs. I hope that's already proportional to my body.

With regards to their FFS, are they usually conservative and just feminize as subtly as possible? What if I wanted it to be more invasive. Like I wanted a smaller V-shaped face but without disrupting proportions of my face? And also I got mixed comments that they do/don't do Type 3 forehead recons. I'm quite confused now because I think I like to have the type 3 on me.

Sorry for asking too many questions haha, I hope you can help me still.

Regards,

Azure

FFS can exact dramatic changes. PAI can do this but there are increased risks.

Brow bossing can be agressive but has potential problems and top surgeons worldwide have had problems with over shaving. A lady from USA had agressive brow bossing and when she went home the brow bone was shaved too fine resulting in the bone giving way. PAI paid for her air fares, housing and surgery cost to correct this error. This required shaving bone from the ribs and a 2.5 week stay.

Chin reduction has potential of nerve damage. I have not had any experience in this surgery.

Rhino, if you have an Asian nose and want a narrow nostril is easy. If you have an Asian nose and want a fine bridge then silicone implants are easily done. However, if you have a nose like westerners then the bone needs to be shaved then its more difficult on recovery.

Cheek implants are easy and done at clinics. PAI used to not do facial implants. Ask again.

Thank you for the insights and the warning about being too aggressive on brow bossing too O.o. I wouldn't want to be put in a situation like that. I guess i'll just follow the advice of the surgeon re: optimal thickness to be shaved without compromising my safety.

I don't think I need to have chin reduction, just jawline reduction. I heard this one is the most difficult to recover from and would require to have a liquid diet. Do you know how long should the liquid diet be done whilst recovery?

I think I have an Asian nose. Im quite satisfied with my current nose bridge but I'm not sure if it will be in harmony with the rest of my face once my forehead is contoured. On nostrils, I definitely need alarplasty as I find it too wide.

On cheeks, I think I have enough puffy cheeks which feminize my face especially when I smile. But I do like to have defined cheeks even when I don't smile. I was actually planning to have cheek implants as possible addition but I'll have to confirm with PAI if they now do it. Thanks for the info! I hope they have so I can do everything I want in one GA.

Do they do Type 3 forehead contouring btw?

Last question, you had a submuscular BA, I heard recovery is quite difficult via that insertion because the muscles are stretched to accommodate the new implants. How many days did it take for you to recover from the op and when did you start having sensations on your nipples?

Thank you very much!

Regards,

Azure

I had sub muscular BA. 360cc. No pain just discomfort

Quote from: warlockmaker on September 22, 2018, 08:30:23 PM
I had sub muscular BA. 360cc. No pain just discomfort

Thank you very much. How long did it take for you to feel that it has finally settled in the desirable position?

Regards,

Azure

They were teardrop shape. It was swollen for about 3 months and another 6 months to feel soft and settle naturally.

Thank you for the info! I'll be contacting PAI today to schedule for a consultation when I visit BKK From Nov 1-6. Wish me luck. Do I get to choose the FFS surgeon too. I think I'm leaning more to Dr. Sutin. Thanksie

Regards,

Azure

This was Dr Sutin's work... I must say not bad for a 46 (at the time) year old woman.

(https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=204651.0;attach=42095)

Wow. I never knew you did yours with Dr. Sutin. Now I'm fully onto Dr. Sutin now. His work on you is perfect! Thanks for sharing Susan!

Regards,

Azure

Burin did my bottom surgery, and sutin did my face. I think the face was definitely the most challenging. I had very prominent brow ridges. I could have been half Klingon ;)

Yes, thank you for your insights.  Can you tell me how many times you had to go to Thailand altogether?  Preliminary, and follow up visits (obviously the visit for the surgery would be one on top of them)?  Also, from beginning to end, during your surgery stay, how long were you in Thailand?  Trying to calculate how many days you stayed across the street.
You look beautiful!

Eva...

Quote from: Susan on September 26, 2018, 01:12:26 AM
Burin did my bottom surgery, and sutin did my face. I think the face was definitely the most challenging. I had very prominent brow ridges. I could have been half Klingon ;)

Did they do Type 3 Forehead on you? I still do not know if they could do that :D.

Hi, Warlocker,

Sorry, but I have a few more questions.
1)  What is the wait time to get scheduled for all of these surgeries?
For example Boston Medical is scheduling a year out...
2) How did you pay for it?  Cash?  Credit card?  Check?
3) Follow up visits?  Were they all included in your extended surgery visit?  Or did you have to return later?
3) This is an odd question  ;D When you had your surgeries, how did you get back into the US?  Your face would not match your passport photo, and your gender was now female.  With today's emphasis on illegal immigration, do you think this would be a problem?
If I can find the money, I am very much thinking of this.

Thanks, Eva

Sorry!   :o  Hi, Warlockmaker (not Warlocker)...   ;D

1. I believe a lead time of 6 months if you are using multiple surgeons. If youuse one surgeon the lead time is much shorter.
2. I did a bank transfer. But many accept credit cards. Cash for sure.
3. I live in Bangkok and my follow ups were all included. Normally visits are every week of thr stay and a final check befote you leave.
4.I do not live in the USA and travel with a UK passpot. I used my SRS surgeon document and had a female passport at tha UK Embassy It ia also used to return to your own country with your old passport.

Thanks, I really like your new picture.  You are beautiful!   :)
Makes me want to go to Thailand today, but first got to get the money...  ;)

What is the best time to visit Thailand?  I'm looking at early 2020...