Ok, it's 12 years later (OMG) and I am in the same position, and no more educated. I have realized that I have gained all the weight back that I lost last time (change in diet, exercise) and am back to 210 from 165. I know how to lose the weight, I've done it before and I WILL do it again. It will be harder now that I am at 50 instead of <40.
What I would like to know is can I lose weight/exercise and keep/add feminine curves? I know there is no miracle answer or it would be in wide use. I'm not on hormones of any type, except the dang T that my body makes. What exercises are there that will focus on building muscle to accent any curve I may be left with? Most of what I see online tends to be adds to buy our product, be it herbals or what ever, but very seldom is there a meaningful review from a MTF.
Are there any dietary changes, be it get rid of or add lots of this to your diet?
I don't have a weight goal, just get rid of any unwanted body fat.
It was the camera that set me off last time, this time it was realizing I was at the top end of regular sizing for clothes that has set me off on this mission. (again).
I went on the ketogenic diet after talking to Deborah. 6 months later I am down 81 lbs. at least 60 to go. Works for me.
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Lost about 30 pounds combining keto with intermittent fasting. Needed to for preop requirements :-)
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Quote from: TechGirl on February 13, 2018, 04:23:48 PM
Lost about 30 pounds combining keto with intermittent fasting. Needed to for preop requirements :-)
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What's Keto?
Quote from: Cassi on February 13, 2018, 04:26:23 PM
What's Keto?
It's a diet approach that limits carbs and protein daily to minimize the effects on the body's insulin. You will see many many posts state that you can eat as much fat as you want, but if you are trying to lose weight, you'll realize that calories still count.
Fat is important because it helps you feel full. Don't try to add fat to your diet as so we do with fat bomb snacks or bulletproof coffees. You'll find that just by limiting carbs and protein, you'll easily meet the fat limits.
I could spend pages telling more, but let Google be your friend.
DISCLAIMER: I am neither a doctor nor a dietician, just a woman trying to make her way in life :-)
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Quote from: TechGirl on February 13, 2018, 04:34:06 PM
It's a diet approach that limits carbs and protein daily to minimize the effects on the body's insulin. You will see many many posts state that you can eat as much fat as you want, but if you are trying to lose weight, you'll realize that calories still count.
Fat is important because it helps you feel full. Don't try to add fat to your diet as so we do with fat bomb snacks or bulletproof coffees. You'll find that just by limiting carbs and protein, you'll easily meet the fat limits.
I could spend pages telling more, but let Google be your friend.
DISCLAIMER: I am neither a doctor nor a dietician, just a woman trying to make her way in life :-)
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Thanks. I thought maybe that guy who lived with OJ was helping.
Quote from: Cassi on February 13, 2018, 04:36:13 PM
Thanks. I thought maybe that guy who lived with OJ was helping.
Cassi,
That is Kato.
Chrissy
Quote from: ChrissyRyan on February 13, 2018, 04:38:57 PM
Cassi,
That is Kato.
Chrissy
Pretty close, both vegitables.
What really helped was understanding the relationship between insulin & carbs/sucrose and what the body does in the absence of nutrient intake. The findings available on the interweb propose extensive health benefits ranging from increasing general health all the way to improving cancer treatments to even combating cancer directly.
Ok, 'nough said. A soap box just tried to carry me away!
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Quote from: TechGirl on February 13, 2018, 04:42:59 PM
What really helped was understanding the relationship between insulin & carbs/sucrose and what the body does in the absence of nutrient intake. The findings available on the interweb propose extensive health benefits ranging from increasing general health all the way to improving cancer treatments to even combating cancer directly.
Ok, 'nough said. A soap box just tried to carry me away!
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Thank you. It's okay, I'll just take your soap box and use it at the Derby.
Quote from: TechGirl on February 13, 2018, 04:23:48 PM
Lost about 30 pounds combining keto with intermittent fasting. Needed to for preop requirements :-)
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This is what I do and I love it!! I do one meal a day and it's the best! I get to absolutely stuff my self and full super full everyday andddd loose weight. It was hard at first, and I've definitely built up to the 23 hour daily fast that I'm doing now I started with just skipping breakfast which is like a 16 hour fast. But yeah once my body got used to it and I stopped making the hunger hormone ghrelin at my old meal times it got easier and easier. Foods that spike my insulin (carbs and sugar) combined with like 5 small meals a day was miserable to me. I was always hungry, wasn't loosing weight, and didn't have even close to the engery and mental focus I do on intermittent fasting + Keto. I used to be into body building and played tennis in college as a guy so I've done way too much research on nutrition, body composition and how to manipulate it.
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OOH, I did not see this post.. I have created one at BMI.
Few things I have researched about weight loss.. One that does work and that is Coconut oil capsules. I really do not know how but they do work.. I stopped taken them since I ran out and soon put some weight back on.. So I am back on them.. I have also read that eating lean red meet helps with weight loss.. Not so sure about that one. One thing is certain, bread is a killer. But I love bread. I cannot eat rice, since it bungs me up.. Paster is terrible for weight gain.. So I eat roasted chook and vegetables. Not much fruit since that has natural sugars. I stay away from all processed sugars.. Most unprocessed nuts are very good too.. Sesame seeds are supposed to be super food... I sprinkle them over other foods.. They taste nice too.. https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/seed-and-nut/sesame-seeds.html
I have been reading about products with Bovine.. It supposed to help with breast development and adding to the butt size which in turn will help with adding curves.. I am still out on this. Also, any product with Soy.. Soy is supposed to be very good for breast and butt development. I am very tempted to buy some.. Soy milk would be good, but I do not like the taste... I need to find others who have tried this option for a long period of time....
I am sure there are heaps more options.. I really want my tummy gone, which is my goal.. I was doing OK at 78kg but bam, Christmas came and I am now 87kg. I lost 1 kg in three days.. I need to be 68kg to me mid range healthy BMI. So 19 more KG's to go.. :(
TR..
Courtney.lane408, its great that works for you but.. Breakfast is supposed to kickstart the bodies metabolism so it helps with weight loss.. To eat late at night is the wrong way to do it.. Have a healthy breakfast then a very light lunch in the evening.. I guess what ever works for you..
TR....
Quote from: TR on February 13, 2018, 05:07:12 PM
OOH, I did not see this post.. I have created one at BMI.
Few things I have researched about weight loss.. One that does work and that is Coconut oil capsules. I really do not know how but they do work.. I stopped taken them since I ran out and soon put some weight back on.. So I am back on them.. I have also read that eating lean red meet helps with weight loss.. Not so sure about that one. One thing is certain, bread is a killer. But I love bread. I cannot eat rice, since it bungs me up.. Paster is terrible for weight gain.. So I eat roasted chook and vegetables. Not much fruit since that has natural sugars. I stay away from all processed sugars.. Most unprocessed nuts are very good too.. Sesame seeds are supposed to be super food... I sprinkle them over other foods.. They taste nice too.. https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/seed-and-nut/sesame-seeds.html
I have been reading about products with Bovine.. It supposed to help with breast development and adding to the butt size which in turn will help with adding curves.. I am still out on this. Also, any product with Soy.. Soy is supposed to be very good for breast and butt development. I am very tempted to buy some.. Soy milk would be good, but I do not like the taste... I need to find others who have tried this option for a long period of time....
I am sure there are heaps more options.. I really want my tummy gone, which is my goal.. I was doing OK at 78kg but bam, Christmas came and I am now 87kg. I lost 1 kg in three days.. I need to be 68kg to me mid range healthy BMI. So 19 more KG's to go.. [emoji20]
TR..
Two things. One, don't waste your money on weight loss products. Eat healthy foods with large amounts of micronutrients on a daily calorie deficit and you will loose weight it's that simple. Second, I would avoid soy if your on hrt. Yes soy does have phytoestrogens and can be an okay option before hrt but not during. This is because those phytoestrogens, which are very weak compared to bio identical estrogens you get from hrt, compete with the more effective estrogen from your hrt for uptake in your estrogen receptors. You don't want to be clogging up your receptors so to speak with weak much less effective soy
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Quote from: TR on February 13, 2018, 05:10:23 PM
Courtney.lane408, its great that works for you but.. Breakfast is supposed to kickstart the bodies metabolism so it helps with weight loss.. To eat late at night is the wrong way to do it.. Have a healthy breakfast then a very light lunch in the evening.. I guess what ever works for you..
TR....
This has been proven wrong many times. Check out studies on intermittent fasting if you don't believe me. Your metabolism runs in a linear relationship with your meal size. 5 small meals = 5 small metabolic boosts while digesting. One larger meal = one large metabolic spike. In the end there is a negligible difference in the metbalioc boost overall during the day when you take the sum total. The 5 small meals approach is old school and is outdated now. This is coming from the nutritional experts at Virginia tech who's jobs it is to make sure the athletes nutrients are optimal ( played tennis in college). I may not know much about being a girl or being trans lol, but this is one thing I promise I know way way to much about. I almost almost decided to work as a nutritionist for my career.
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Quote from: Anastasia on December 11, 2017, 01:52:34 PM
What I would like to know is can I lose weight/exercise and keep/add feminine curves? I know there is no miracle answer or it would be in wide use. I'm not on hormones of any type, except the dang T that my body makes. What exercises are there that will focus on building muscle to accent any curve I may be left with?
Are there any dietary changes, be it get rid of or add lots of this to your diet?
I don't have a weight goal, just get rid of any unwanted body fat.
Most of what I see online tends to be adds to buy our product, be it herbals or what ever, but very seldom is there a meaningful review from a MTF.
@ anatasia: I noticed that one of your original questions and the subject line of your post "losing weight, adding curves" did not seem to get much coverage in the replies. Basically, it is redistributed fat that makes the curves, and a proper diet. Exercising along with a stringent low fat diet will in certains area like arms, legs, stomach will reduce the fat and gain masculine looking muscle. This does not mean that a well proportioned feminine body does not have muscle either, their are plenty of women with nice curves that have abs and good arm and leg strength. There are some trans-women on here that can probably outdo most men in strength.
Usually to get things going medically supervised HRT is needed. Muscle loss is a result of HRT in most cases, it was for me but what I lost in body mass and muscle mass I gained in curves, hips, slimmer waist, and developing breasts.
I have learnt that everything gets proven wrong in time. We are guided by the fad of the week... I eat a very small breakfast, if I do not eat something, I feel very weak all day.. I then have a very light and healthy dinner at night.. I might have a hard boiled egg mid day..
I agree about Soy.. I have never really felt that stuff to be the right way to go but I did try some a while back. It yuck.. But I would still like to hear from anyone who is using Soy for a long period of time and what the effect has been on their body.. For me, I will give it a miss. Stick with my HRT patches as you said. They seem to be working fine.. But I would still love to get some shape down below..
With weight loss.. Its seems to be so hard but very easy to put on.. I did not really think I was eating that much.. The older you get the harder it becomes..
TR...
I don't think there's anyone diet that works for everyone equally and I really don't think there will be. Lifestyle and general health and well being are so much more important than a fad diet.
It sounds cheesy, but listen to your body. Or have you always been overweight even as a young child? In that case you need to start to nourish your body with vegetables, balanced home cook meals and fruits. Don't be afraid of natural spices, a little of salt, pepper, green spices, red spices etc. I don't know if spices are known by colors, but you know what I mean. Add garlic and onion to jump start your metabolism and you get some nutrients so many of us are missing.
If you get cravings for ice cream don't punish yourself. Have some with strawberries or blueberries or opt for some frozen yogurt instead.
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soy .. hmm ..
nothing scientific here.
I changed my diet, started walking (9000+ steps daily), and some simple stretches/exercises back in Oct.
Primarily a veggie diet, soy milk, soy powder drink, walking. I don't count calories specifically. I do look at the product and chose what has the lowest calories per serving. No red meats .. blech ... I do not drink the soy and/or powder every day, that'd be too much protein, I tend to drink it on the off days. For me it's seems good to have a rest day for your body to catch up to itself. I seem to drop more pounds if I take an exercise break.
one bowl of cereal for breakfast (it's either that or supplements), lunch is a salad, dinner is either another salad, a veggie burger or potatoes (I need the potassium). Tonight was a small dinner of ham and potatoes.
how does that add up?
I am now 165 down from 206-8
How tall are you Faith..??
You are the first person to that has said they use Soy. .. You seem to be benefiting by it.. Just not quite convinced about it. It really depends on the the who is making the comments and which website. Some swear by it other say no.. None of my girlfriends use it.. We are always talking about how to add those curves.. Do you feel Soy has helped with developing curves or helped in developing the butt and thigh areas..
I had a couple of responses from Yasmine Petty last year on Facebook.. But she did not give away any of her secrets. She thought my comments were funny. She is just amazing but I guess born at the right time to start HRT young and borne with a great bone and frame I guess helps... How she gets those curves is beyond me.. She is just great looking from top to toe.. But we can't all be Yasmine..
https://www.instagram.com/yasminepetty/?hl=en
One of my biggest issues wiht me is staring HRT very late in life.. Some transgenders who began very young I feel stand a much better chance of getting in before the male hormones kick in.. I call it my Testosterone poisoning. :( Starting young, should help with defining the female curves and fat distribution where its needed to accentuate curves..
TR...
I honestly can't tell if soy has added any shape benefit. I have an average male shoulder/waist/hip ratio. I'm 5'10"
All I know is my wife tells me that from the back she can't tell that I'm 'a guy'. From the front is obvious since I'm boobless and my face gives it away.
like I said, no science. Since my target right now is loosing weight, seeing it show up where I want it isn't in the picture.
Well Faith, that puts your BMI just a little above middle of your perfect BMI.. You are about where I want to be, since I am the same hight as you.. Another -5kg and you will be perfect .. But the BMI scale is just a guild. The older you get the more flexible it can be.. So I think you you are on track.. Not so sure if the older you get its even possible to add some curves.. I am going to monitor. I really only want to loose some tummy and mid tire.. Its not much in my view but I have also seen some that loose wait, look awful since loosing weight can make the face look drawn so I need to be careful about that. My boobs since HRT are coming along great.. I think if I can loose the mid, the hips might look OK.. :)
I have no perfect suggestions really on how to develop curves.. Losing weight is the relatively easy part... But adding it to where you really want it, its a bit like no hair where you want it and hair where you do not want it.. Every body is different.. We are all different. What might work for one person, might network for others.. But we can still give our two cents worth in what worked or is working for us..
TR..
Quote from: TR on February 13, 2018, 06:53:41 PM
I had a couple of responses from Yasmine Petty last year on Facebook.. But she did not give away any of her secrets.
Looking at the pictures it appears her secret is a combination of silicone and photoshop. There's nothing wrong with that for those that want it but others shouldn't be deceived as to what is and isn't possible naturally.
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Yes, you might be right but I think Anastasia might be thinking about something a bit more subtle... Yasmine seems to have a very over exaggerated female form.. More in coming with the cartoon on her page.. Still looks very nice.. But.. if you notice, her feet, her arms her legs.. Just about everything suggest natural female. Some females can be born with male bits. She might not be a 100% natural transgender as we know it so therefore, just about impossible to look the same.. I admit she is very pretty but. A bit over done perhaps.. I still like her very much..
TR..
Quote from: Courtney.lane408 on February 13, 2018, 05:01:43 PM
This is what I do and I love it!! I do one meal a day and it's the best! I get to absolutely stuff my self and full super full everyday andddd loose weight. It was hard at first, and I've definitely built up to the 23 hour daily fast that I'm doing now I started with just skipping breakfast which is like a 16 hour fast. But yeah once my body got used to it and I stopped making the hunger hormone ghrelin at my old meal times it got easier and easier. Foods that spike my insulin (carbs and sugar) combined with like 5 small meals a day was miserable to me. I was always hungry, wasn't loosing weight, and didn't have even close to the engery and mental focus I do on intermittent fasting + Keto. I used to be into body building and played tennis in college as a guy so I've done way too much research on nutrition, body composition and how to manipulate it.
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Do you drink coffee? I know they say, on an intermittent fast, that you can have all the coffee you want with just a splash of cream, but I was thinking, isn't coffee really suspended nano particles of a roasted legume?
I haven't lost anything on the sixteen hour fast and was thinking of just doing one hour for my meal as you suggest, but was thinking that maybe all the coffee, which i drink black mostly was effecting my results.
My therapist wants me to dress, but it makes me dysphoric because cloths just don't fit. They fit when I was 20 and 155 pounds though. Sigh, to live is to regret.
My speech therapist mentioned that coffee is bad for your vocal cords.
Quote from: TechGirl on February 13, 2018, 04:34:06 PM
It's a diet approach that limits carbs and protein daily to minimize the effects on the body's insulin. You will see many many posts state that you can eat as much fat as you want, but if you are trying to lose weight, you'll realize that calories still count.
Fat is important because it helps you feel full. Don't try to add fat to your diet as so we do with fat bomb snacks or bulletproof coffees. You'll find that just by limiting carbs and protein, you'll easily meet the fat limits.
I could spend pages telling more, but let Google be your friend.
DISCLAIMER: I am neither a doctor nor a dietician, just a woman trying to make her way in life :-)
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There are Keto calculators out there for macros and I'd bet that just cutting carbs and protein is the way to go. It's more nuanced and is dependent on lbm, activity levels and rate of weight loss desired, to name a few. The hardest part for me was and is keeping carbs at 30g net per day or less. Eating enough fat comes in second. With my previous eating habits, I probably ate 100-120g of protein a day. Now I shoot for 165. It's not hard for me to do. When I was younger and lifted weights, I found the magic happened at about 1.25g of protein per pound of lbm. But that's lifting 6 days a week. It was difficult to keep up, but I could see the difference in muscle mass. Since having neck issues that limit what I can lift, it doesn't matter anymore. I miss being strong, but f it.
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Quote from: Cassi on February 14, 2018, 08:09:39 AM
My speech therapist mentioned that coffee is bad for your vocal cords.
Well, while I would love to sing,"Nulla in Mundo Pax Sincera", I think thats a long time gone in this lifetime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM3lDvhRzsQ
Quote from: Dianesortof on February 14, 2018, 07:56:51 AM
Do you drink coffee? I know they say, on an intermittent fast, that you can have all the coffee you want with just a splash of cream, but I was thinking, isn't coffee really suspended nano particles of a roasted legume?
I haven't lost anything on the sixteen hour fast and was thinking of just doing one hour for my meal as you suggest, but was thinking that maybe all the coffee, which i drink black mostly was effecting my results.
My therapist wants me to dress, but it makes me dysphoric because cloths just don't fit. They fit when I was 20 and 155 pounds though. Sigh, to live is to regret.
If you're not losing weight then the possible causes are too many calories (the most common reason, even when fasting); not enough sleep or too much stress both of which raise cortisol levels. Coffee shouldn't effect weight unless you have some sort of physiological abnormality.
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Quote from: Deborah on February 13, 2018, 09:00:36 PM
Looking at the pictures it appears her secret is a combination of silicone and photoshop. There's nothing wrong with that for those that want it but others shouldn't be deceived as to what is and isn't possible naturally.
@ Deborah: I agree wholeheartedly with you. Her pictures "scream" FAKE, FAKE, FAKE. Even if they are not fake, that is NOT what I would want my body to look like.
On an interesting (at least to me) aside... If anyone is struggling and has cash to burn, genetic testing may give some clues on an approach that works for people as individuals. In my recent adventures with it, I have done some reading on the genes related to weight loss and muscle building, and it's... well, anecdotally good as per individual testimonies, but the jury is still out on the reliability and usefulness statistically. I know in my case, everything that came up lined up exactly with what I had already figured out for myself, so was accurate. (Some of which I knew originally from family experience, so makes sense it would be visibly genetic.) Of course, there's always the chance it just shows a few superficial things such as "increased obesity risk" and doesn't provide a single clue to your body.
(Examples from my own.,, I had multiple "sprinter's" genes associated with muscle strength due to elevated proteins related to building muscle that is good for bursts of power over endurance. Which was 100% accurate. I have always fatigued easily long distance, but at school for instance I was consistently the fastest sprinter and able to more readily do "feats of strength" type weight lifting and what not. Also had genes associated with increased retention of fat. This also tracked, as my most effective dieting has always been the simple approach of cutting back on fat and going heavier on protein. Carbs don't seem to affect me much either way. Beef Jerky is my friend.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinin_alpha_3 (the basic protein and gene info. there are some other related ones that are less general, but gives an idea.)
Quote from: Dianesortof on February 14, 2018, 11:53:37 AM
Well, while I would love to sing,"Nulla in Mundo Pax Sincera", I think thats a long time gone in this lifetime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM3lDvhRzsQ
Where are the subtitles?
Quote from: Cassi on February 14, 2018, 01:32:06 PM
Where are the subtitles?
Aria.
In this world there is no honest peace
free from bitterness; pure and true (i.e. peace)
sweet Jesus, lies in Thee.
Amidst punishment and torment
lives the contented soul,
chaste love its only hope.
Recitative.
This world deceives the eye by surface charms,
but is corroded within by hidden wounds.
Let us flee him who smiles, shun him who follows us,
for by skilfully displaying its pleasures, this world
overwhelms us by deceit.
Aria.
The serpent's hiss conceals its venom,
as it uncoils itself
among blossoms and beauty.
But with a furtive touch of the lips,
a man maddened by love
will often kiss as if licking honey.
Alleluia.
Thank ya kindly Missy!
Quote from: Deborah on February 14, 2018, 12:10:26 PM
If you're not losing weight then the possible causes are too many calories (the most common reason, even when fasting); not enough sleep or too much stress both of which raise cortisol levels. Coffee shouldn't effect weight unless you have some sort of physiological abnormality.
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My epiphany came the day after my first Polysomnagraph. I had a break down while watching the movie Trans. I told my wife what the trouble was and after her pledge of support experienced the most profound Euphoria. Maybe, you are correct in that the stress of not transitioning, as well as the increased oxygen at night from the BiPap machine, is holding back my weight loss, because before that I easily lost weight on a Ketogenic diet.
The weight loss had slowed down. It was never as quick as when I first started Atkins. But this is report by many people on the Atkins boards.
This also maybe, due to the trouble I have had with Statins giving me anxiety with LDL cholesterol levels below 65.
Anxiety is a problem for patients that present with Low Cholesterol.
Quote from: Dianesortof on February 14, 2018, 02:23:33 PM
My epiphany came the day after my first Polysomnagraph. I had a break down while watching the movie Trans. I told my wife what the trouble was and after her pledge of support experienced the most profound Euphoria. Maybe, you are correct in that the stress of not transitioning, as well as the increased oxygen at night from the BiPap machine, is holding back my weight loss, because before that I easily lost weight on a Ketogenic diet.
The weight loss had slowed down. It was never as quick as when I first started Atkins. But this is report by many people on the Atkins boards.
This also maybe, due to the trouble I have had with Statins giving me anxiety with LDL cholesterol levels below 65.
Anxiety is a problem for patients that present with Low Cholesterol.
Some of that stress you describe sounds like it might be beyond your immediate control. If so, mindfulness meditation a couple of times a day will likely help to reduce the stress and also lower the cortisol.
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Quote from: Deborah on February 14, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Some of that stress you describe sounds like it might be beyond your immediate control. If so, mindfulness meditation a couple of times a day will likely help to reduce the stress and also lower the cortisol.
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Doctors switched me to Zetia and anxiety has decreased exponentially. I had stopped on my own without telling Doctors because no one would listen to me. When my cholesterol went up,I confessed and went back on Crestor, When the Cardiologist called me five days after my GP did, I told him I was going out of my mind and that I refused anymore statins(this was my third statin) and then he relented. I think they chase numbers for numbers sake.
Hematologist agreed my LDL was too low, Sleep apnea Doctor said," oh yeah thats right, that is too low. They don't listen to their patients.
I get skin burning with anxiety. GP mention skin itching with pre-diabetes, I said I can bring it on myself, when I go and read stuff at Susan's or look at women's fashion or Transpassing on
>-bleeped-<.
I will try going back to TM and exercising more. Thank you for listening, i know this sounds rather convoluted.
I know I should go back to my therapist. I just don't feel the need to transition yet. Though that Transgender women who is breast feeding a baby really makes me happy.
(I don't care Buddha, I desire it.)
Quote from: Aspiringperson on February 13, 2018, 05:26:37 PM
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@ anatasia: I noticed that one of your original questions and the subject line of your post "losing weight, adding curves" did not seem to get much coverage in the replies. Basically, it is redistributed fat that makes the curves, and a proper diet. Exercising along with a stringent low fat diet will in certains area like arms, legs, stomach will reduce the fat and gain masculine looking muscle. This does not mean that a well proportioned feminine body does not have muscle either, their are plenty of women with nice curves that have abs and good arm and leg strength. There are some trans-women on here that can probably outdo most men in strength.
Usually to get things going medically supervised HRT is needed. Muscle loss is a result of HRT in most cases, it was for me but what I lost in body mass and muscle mass I gained in curves, hips, slimmer waist, and developing breasts.
Thank-you. :) I realize that HRT Is the only way to get the changes really want, but that probably won't happen, :-\ . I was looking/hoping for exercises that may help build muscle in the right place while diet takes off some of the unneeded fat.
As far as avoiding Testosterone poisoning, it is way to late. I will be 50 soon, and I'm fat and balding.
I had not thought about incorporating soy into my diet. I had a positive experience with soy in a different product a while back. There was a hair reducing lotion out that used a soy extract as its secret ingredient. I used it for about 2 years before it was pulled from the market. I went from shaving once, twice/day to about every 3 days. The effect lingered for years, so maybe I will be sensitive to the phytoestrogen effect of soy.
I know whether diet/exercise feminizes me or not, I will feel better and I won't have to shop the XL/XXL section anymore! lol. Now, if I could lose the weight and keep the breast tissue that's there...
Enough procrastinating. I have a gym membership, time to make use of it. Actually, I made a similar post to this years and years ago as one of my first questions! Wait long enough, and history repeats itself.
Well.. I am 61 but not giving up.. I have lost 4.5 kg in the past 5 weeks, and it makes a big difference to my overall shape.. My boobs are still there so when I look down, I see them protruding but not my tummy so much.. Its nice.. Many real females are not so curvy as they might want to be so I am not that worried as long as I am slim'ish.. Being fat really kills any of my femininity. Some might be able to get away with it if the fat is in the right places. But for me, it is only around the middle. I need to loose another 6kg minimum. I love stretch jeans... They make me feel quite feminine with a nice tee shirt.. At my age, testosterone poisoning has done its evil deed so there is no going back on that.. If I had only started HRT before I turned 18, I feel I would be very feminine now.. I had beautiful long hair when I was young.. But everyone gets old.. and I have to make the best of what I have otherwise my emotions will consume me.. If I could ever afford to have some FFS, and my voice done, I feel I would be a brand new women with hope.. Its my face that lets me down.. But my skin is still quite nice.. In many ways, my legs are heaps better than most real women at 61.. So its not all bad.. There is a fine line to loosing weight and losing the plumpness in the face.. Its so easy to look drawn, which can make you look heaps older... I have been taking cologne capsule to try to help with this..