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Title: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Kate Thomas on July 09, 2018, 04:10:43 PM
London
https://www.out.com/news-opinion/2018/7/07/anti-trans-protestors-invade-london-pride-parade-are-allowed-lead
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: HappyMoni on July 09, 2018, 04:19:15 PM
Isn't it amazing how hate works. It's like a weed that grows in the most unlikely places, like in the middle of a cracked sidewalk. Sad!
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Jessica on July 09, 2018, 04:31:25 PM
This is very disturbing and sad!
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Kate Thomas on July 09, 2018, 05:04:24 PM
I think they pulled a last minute fast one on pride organizers.  Unlikely to have such luck next year.
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: ErinAscending on July 09, 2018, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: Kate Thomas on July 09, 2018, 05:04:24 PM
I think they pulled a last minute fast one on pride organizers.  Unlikely to have such luck next year.

I had read the article in the Advocate which basically said the organizers claimed exactly that.  They had several last minute changes and poof!  Anti-Trans leaflets flying everywhere...   :( Or something like that.  I was pretty upset about something else this morning when I read it and really can't remember exactly what was written.
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Katie Jade on July 09, 2018, 05:18:40 PM
Missed all that as I was at Sparkle in Manchester. Really sad that minority groups attack other minority groups in our world in this way. It doesn't help their or anyones cause at all just shows then to be self centred and bigots.
Nuf said
Katie

:police: :police: :police: :police: :police: :police:
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Lucca on July 09, 2018, 05:24:02 PM
The people claiming that trans lesbians are devaluing lesbianism are like the people who claim that that gay marriage devalues marriage. And lesbians are being "coerced" into having sex with transwomen? Where is that happening?

The things that other people do should have no bearing on the validity of your own identity.
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Charlotte F on July 10, 2018, 04:58:26 PM
There seems to be a very small but very vocal group of women that have a real problem with us in the UK.  I think their highjacking of the march was ill advised though as Pride is about inclusivity and about all parts of the LGBT+ community coming together in unity

In a touching act of solidarity, a growing number of cisgender lesbians have started using the Twitter hashtag #LwiththeT in support

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/09/lwiththet-trans-women-lesbians/ (https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/07/09/lwiththet-trans-women-lesbians/)
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Lucca on July 10, 2018, 05:15:58 PM
Aww... it is important to remember that this was only around 10 people who disrupted the march, I don't think most people there were on their side.

On the other hand, later in that same article, they talk about how the police and army shouldn't be involved in Pride, and I'm unclear on whether they mean that the police and army as groups shouldn't be allowed to march in Pride, or whether individuals who are in the police or army should be banned. I'm not sure either is a great stance to take, since it distances us from people that we need to have on our side, regardless of past behavior. The medical community hasn't been kind to the LGBT community in the past either, but the response to that has never been "doctors and therapists are our enemy, avoid all contact, end of story."

I dunno, I've always been hesitant to take part in organized protests and pride marches because it seem like my complex, individualized opinions and feelings get drowned out by simplistic nonsense I disagree with. Why participate in the event if in the end, it doesn't represent what I want to say?
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: ErinAscending on July 10, 2018, 06:25:13 PM
Quote from: Lucca on July 10, 2018, 05:15:58 PM
On the other hand, later in that same article, they talk about how the police and army shouldn't be involved in Pride, and I'm unclear on whether they mean that the police and army as groups shouldn't be allowed to march in Pride, or whether individuals who are in the police or army should be banned.

I believe it was part of a larger critique of the event organizers because they allowed this to happen AND they even took money (sponsorships) from these orgs who have not been friendly to LGBTIQ in the past.  Ya know.  It was a "Shame on them!" kinda thing.  Nothing about anyone being banned from participating.
Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Paige on July 12, 2018, 08:25:10 AM
Excellent response to this event.


'Feminists' Who Exclude Trans Women Aren't Feminists At All


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-tannehill-terfs-right-wing_us_5b44eeeae4b0c523e2637878

London Pride, like Pride celebrations all over the world, is supposed to be about the LGBTQ community coming together to celebrate the ability to be themselves and to openly proclaim who they love. But this weekend the message ended up hijacked by a small group of self-proclaimed lesbian "feminists" who jumped out in front of the parade displaying anti-transgender banners and posters and handing out fliers with transphobic propaganda......


Title: Re: Pride London parade ( terf)
Post by: Zoe_Kay on August 15, 2018, 12:28:36 AM
Quote from: Paige on July 12, 2018, 08:25:10 AM
Excellent response to this event.


'Feminists' Who Exclude Trans Women Aren't Feminists At All


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-tannehill-terfs-right-wing_us_5b44eeeae4b0c523e2637878

London Pride, like Pride celebrations all over the world, is supposed to be about the LGBTQ community coming together to celebrate the ability to be themselves and to openly proclaim who they love. But this weekend the message ended up hijacked by a small group of self-proclaimed lesbian "feminists" who jumped out in front of the parade displaying anti-transgender banners and posters and handing out fliers with transphobic propaganda......

^^ So much this!!!