Alright, so I wasn't exactly sure to put this in the Hate category or the religion category, but I really need to get some overwhelming anger off of my chest for today. So, my grandmother, a die-hard Tea Party Member who can't seem to keep her opinions to herself, decided to send me an email today for the first time. I was shocked. She doesn't ever really communicate with me, even though I haven't even come out to her ever and she shouldn't have cause to dislike me any, so it threw me for a loop. Expecting a general grandmotherly question for Christmas lists or something of the sort, I opened it, and, without looking at the link in the mail, clicked the link.
Oh. My. God. I've never seen a more terribly sad website in my life. It's all about how Christians were being poisoned by the 'homosexual deviants', and that children should be taught from a very early age to hate and even expose their classmates if it came to 'interfering with their beliefs'. It hurt a lot, coming from my own family, despite me not being sure if she knows about my orientation/gender or not. It made me sick. It made me cry. I guess... I didn't realize how much hatred there was about everyone else, and it made me want to physically vomit.
Which I did, after a few moment. I don't... I don't know. It really unsettled me, and, considering that I live in a place where I'm most certainly not accepted for being trans, I don't really know what to do with myself. It hit home really hard for me, especially a flyer about how little girls and boys shouldn't associate with other queer children, and that it would be poisoning them to do so. I quote, poisoning children.
I just... want reassurance, I guess. There might not be much to give, but... I don't want to hurt anyone... Really...
Back in the day they used to say little white kids shouldn't associate with little black kids...which today we see as abhorrent. Maybe send a reply suggesting her "style" of hatred (especially how the bible is misused for hate) went out of fashion back in the 1950's?
You don't have to out yourself in the process, in fact just argue from the point of view that gays are people too, and deserve basic human dignity, no matter if she doesn't like their actions. If she suggests in reply that "maybe you're gay", remind her that back in the day if any white person stood up for blacks, s/he would be called a "ni**er lover!" and hated...
I'm so sorry that happened.
Maybe you should ask her, "Whom would Jesus shun? Whom would Jesus hate?"
I don't understand hypochristians at all. I mean, if you're going to get all Old Testament literal, you think you'd have to follow everything else in Leviticus and Deuteronomy as well.
Hugs,
Jill
That's why I recently became a former Christian.
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Quote from: SpaceMutie on November 25, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
Oh. My. God. I've never seen a more terribly sad website in my life. It's all about how Christians were being poisoned by the 'homosexual deviants', and that children should be taught from a very early age to hate and even expose their classmates if it came to 'interfering with their beliefs'.
Believing this rot is not religion. It is gullibility.
Extremely old topic, I know, but I wanted to respond anyway.
A sticker I bought recently says "God favors no one. Only religions do that." Maybe that will make her think before her next bout of stupidity.
There are a couple of things many who call themselves Christians fail to see in themselves.
Pride; being better than others.
Judging by sight rather than the righteous judgment.
Pride was what got Satan cast out of heaven, caused Saul to lose his kingdom to David and so many other people and their acts as well.
It is written the proud of heart are an abomination unto the Lord.
It's a shame that people can't see that it is written all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
So many who clobber others fail to see their own sins.
To: grandma
Dear Grandna, being of an old age, you might better spend time praying for forgiveness of your own sins before our lord, than visiting hateful sites built by Satan followers-in-disguise who try to endocrinate people with hatred, that our savior fought against with His life.
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Quote from: suzifrommd on November 26, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Believing this rot is not religion. It is gullibility.
What's the difference? ???
I absolutely agree. Forget the losers. If you like Christ, go with Him.
Mahatma Gandhi
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Sadly so many so called Christians today lack spiritual discernment. Many know the scriptures and many can quote book and verse yet don't know Jesus. We can see that with the way they treat others.
In Grandma's case sending this, I just can't help but wonder if she, the church, the web site or even her pastor knows an aspect of Deuteronomy 22: 5 they use so often.
If grandma (and the others) are Christians they are the betrothed of Christ. They are awaiting the wedding feast of the Lamb or the son of a great King Jesus gave the parable about.
This same Jesus is a High Priest. He wears the breastplate of judgment.
For the woman (betrothed, bride, woman, us and they) to pass judgment upon another they are wearing "that which pertaineth unto a man."
This would then make them an abomination and it would be worse if it is done with a proud spirit. That too is an abomination according to scripture.
We have to remember that Jesus said few would find the way. He did not say straight, cis, trans or gay would find the way. He said few.
There are four things listed in acts which we are commanded to abstain from. Fornication, meats offered to idols, innocent blood and things strangled. It doesn't say straight, gay, trans or cis.
All of those sins can be found in all of those groups of people.
If Grandma had sex before marriage she committed fornication.
If Grandma partook of a doctrine which she placed before the word of God she partook of meats offered to idols. (anything placed before our Lord and meats being words as well as food)
If Grandma ever betrayed a person or ratted someone out for gain like Judas she betrayed the innocent blood.
If grandma ever let the cares of this world come before serving Christ (a shopping trip instead of going to church) she partook of things strangled. (The seed on 4 types of soil)
Sweetie; people just don't know the judgments of God and how deep they go. We all need the grace of Jesus.
Sadly it is many times the ones who are quick to judge and spew hate who need it the most.
Don't let these people get you down. trust Jesus and just do your best.
I hope this helps.
I feel that Jesus welcomes me to the church. I feel that God is holding my hand throughout all my aspects of life. I feel that God loves me more than I can understand. I know that He understand that i couldn't stay on my old path so He has showed his compassion and given me a path that is so much better. Nearly all my friends and family supports me.
The only place where I've been judged openly is in my church. Not by all. Only one person. I guess im lucky.
Sometimes I feel like the one with leprosy. Jesus comes to me but people in church want to hold some distance to me. Been praying many times that he would take away my gender issues but He has given me signs and encouragement to move on becoming the real me.
I can't go any other way than the transition route. He knows it and He loves me. People around me doesn't know the struggle and pain. They only see what their eyes show them and what society learned them.
Johanna
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People like your grandmother are the reason I do not attend church. I know Jesus loves me for who I am. People (or groups) that claim I am going to hell, have no clue regarding Christ's teachings. I find it abhorrent that so many will look to the New Testament for hope, yet turn to the Old Testament for excuses to hate.
The church today is no where near what was originally ordained of Jesus. It has been split up and taught err for money and the pride of many ministers.
Jesus said two or three (not two or three hundred or thousand) are gathered there am I.
Even straight and cisgender preachers hear hatred when preaching or teaching the truth. It's just become big business with big ego's.
There are still small bodies of believers out there who hold fast to the teachings of the original church as much as they can by what the Holy Ghost reveals to them but the numbers are small.