I heard an interesting story on the news about how thermostats in office buildings are still to brisk temperatures, because most men are comfortable in temperatures in the low to mid seventies. Women whom do not cover up shiver and get goose pimples in that environment.
I wonder how it all stacks up for those whom are transgender. I know my hubby likes the AC set to 60°, if he can get away with it. I set it to 74° so the temperature will be closer to 77° where the bed is. I still cover up. He usually lays on top of the covers.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/
2015/08/04/429005094/women-theres-a-reason-why-youre-shivering-in-the-office (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/08/04/429005094/women-theres-a-reason-why-youre-shivering-in-the-office)
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I have the AC set on 70° F.
I'm in my element in the winter, summer is very uncomfortable for me.
Not that I hate the cold. I Just hate what usually comes with it the white crap. I love sitting in front of the space heater/ floor vent. I don't feel the need for A/C where we live. It rarely gets overly hot in our place.
I do like it a little chilly when I go to bed. then again I wear lingerie to bed and some quite skimpy. OTH My wife will wear flannel pants and long sleeves to bed even on a hot night, under the covers where I would be in a baby doll sleeping on top. ( However I do wind up under the covers by morning)
Kymmie
I adore the cold. I cannot stand even mildly hot temperatures. Anything above about 20 degrees Celsius (68 Fahrenheit) and I start to feel like I'm cooking inside. Summer is hellish for me. With the heat and the sunlight and stuff.
For me, the colder, and darker a place is, the better. I know I'm weird, lol. I wear T shirts through most of the Winter. I rarely put my heating on at all.
Now that I wear a skirt to work at least 3 days a week, all I can say is that air conditioning is a tool of the patriarchy. I do like it somewhat cool, but my god does it get cold in my office sometimes.
Thank you for posting this.
So Yeah I am not the only one who freezes to dead at work. ;D
I used to be able to stand the cold better then now, much better, I am now 3 years on hrt. I am truly cold when the guys at work have the AC set at 62-65. And shivering at times. How can they stand that cold?
But that's life I guess.
I don't have any sort of climate control at home and work is a mixture of being outside and in the warehouse which is always cold any time of year, so I wear a hoodie over my uniform most of the other women who work there do this too. Even if I forget my hoodie I still have my motorcycle jacket as my only transportation is to ride to work. This also means that I don't wear skirts or dresses without leggings underneath since I would be giving everyone a show if I did and I find he leggings really help against the cold.
My wife and I hate being cold...we both came from cold climate countries and detest it...ours themostat set to be in the 80's and in the summer when its well over a 100 we don't run the air conditioner either that often...we detest being cold, did I say that LOL ;D
Oh, I freeze in the office these days!
There is no doubt, in my case at least, that I spent my first winter on HRT shivering constantly.
I guess it's got a little less severe over time, but I keep a cardigan in the office for those days where the aircon is just too cold!
Hugs
J
Anything below 30C - 85F is hot water bottle and jumper weather. My office AC was set at 22C - 72F and I wore a coat and had a fan heater on. I'm like Liz and we live in a hot climate, however the humidity is low so it feels utterly different to 30C and high humidity, that would get unpleasant after a while. HRT made me less tolerant of cold, well my concept of cold :laugh:
I do think that humidity is the big factor rather than the temperature and maybe you do sweat less on estradiol? No idea, just a thought.
I'm cold all the time. In and out of the office.
I am most comfortable in the 50-80 range outdoors. What I really do not like about cold is that my fun girly clothes are all summery styles. I work in an office but the AC is fickle so some days I sweat, some I shiver.
As far as sleep, I like it around 60, windows open, and laying naked on top the sheets.
I hate the cold. I don't know how I work next to grills and fryers and so many sources of heat yet the thermostat is so low im still freezing my ass off.
The great thing about women's clothing is that it is always socially acceptable to hide under a cardigan. Cardigans can make outfits look more tidy, and in my case, are great for hiding the squishiness! Which makes it surprising that people complain so much about it being cold in offices. Then again, this is my attitude towards seasons as well- when it's cold you can always add another layer, but in warm weather eventually you're just sitting there naked, sweating, and miserable.
I keep it the air at 72ish myself.
Depending on where you live, it's expected that one would be adapted for that climate. In Texas, I like temperatures between 75° and 95°. Any hotter than 95°, and I won't work outdoors. Any cooler than 75°, and I am covering up.
My husband will wear shorts and a tank top when it's 50° outside, and wonders why I put on a jacket. He is only 2 inches shorter than I am, but also outweighs me by 35 lbs. He has more of his own insulation than I do, and wonders why I don't like the cold as much as he does.
Fortunately, in my "office" I'm the only one that gets any input on the climate control :D
My wife and I both need it warm, though she has cold urticaria and breaks out in hives when her skin is exposed to even cool air at times. I can deal with the cold if I mitigate it by wearing proper clothing. I have now a less tolerance to cold since starting hrt, not sure if there is a correlation. I love x-country skiing into the wild woods and creating snow shelters to spend the night in. If you make your environment to your needs, it's easier to live comfortably.
Hugs and smiles from a California girl
I was on HRT for nearly 5 years. No change in my cold tolerance. The thermostat is at 60 F all winter. I've been off for 2 years now but still no change with my cold tolerance.
Joelene
I have found as I have transitioned I have been moving the thermostat up about 5 degrees. Part of it is because my nipples get sensitive to the cold and I hate it when they throb. I mean perky is one thing.
I'm the one always turning down the A/C to a perfect 65 degrees...
I love that clothes from the women's section are thinner and cover less skin. :D
Don't get me started on people that insist on turning on artificial heat when it's not needed, especially sidewalk cafes that have those heat torch things(not sure of proper word) that ruin the entire experience of sitting outside on a cool evening...
Quote from: DawnOday on September 12, 2018, 04:14:40 AM
I have found as I have transitioned I have been moving the thermostat up about 5 degrees. Part of it is because my nipples get sensitive to the cold and I hate it when they throb. I mean perky is one thing.
@DawnOday Dear Dawn: Yep... "perky" is the word...
...In the cold weather or a drafty building my nipples don't throb and hurt but definitely the "high beams" come on and will show through many of my bras and thin shirts. Even at the gym in my gym outfits I my nipples can be quite apparent.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.... I identify completely.
Hugs,
Danielle
Back when I was single and my body ran on T, I liked the thermostat set at 20C. My wife, however, always minded the cold, so I got used to 24C. I found it warm/hot, but I could handle it. Now that my body runs on E, 24 seems normal., and even 23 seems cold.
I definitely mind the cold a lot more than I used to.
In summer, I take a sweater to the supermarket, because they keep the AC turned down to North Pole temperatures. I swear you can see your breath in there sometimes. It looks weird putting on a sweater on a hot day when you go indoors, but it's what a girl has to do!
Funny... since losing weight and starting HRT, I get really cold easily. I wear scarfs all the time now to both look and feel good, and be warm. I too like my home and bedroom around 23 or 24 C now...
Hugs
Karen
...I moved country... ;D
It's been hard finding the perfect balance since starting hrt. We used to have to smoke on the porch in the winter, and omg that caused nipple pain that was approaching gall stone level. But we've had a hot summer here and I've pretty much sat inside most of the time, giving up the usual outdoor summer activity's. So I've been sitting directly in front of the ac vent most of the summer with a flannel on. As others have said once it hits about 65 f I start shivering.
I recently moved to southern Nevada and have had the air conditioning set at 82 all summer. Now that the outside temps are dropping to the mid 90's the air conditioner will be shut off and the house opened up.
When the temps drop below 70 the heavy blankets come out!
I enjoy reading these replies. It seems E has a large impact on how well we handle the cold.
My mother loves the cold, but then she is very post menopausal. I'm fixin' to bring out the winter clothes. One cold front after another, and my summer clothes won't be doing me any favors.
I love being on the colder side. Whenever it's get really cold, grey and gloomy, all I can think about is a roaring fire and a good scary movie on tube.
Jasmine
I'm not sure, a fireplace is nice. But maybe a man to warm me up would be even nicer lol
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Allison, I like how you think.
Quote from: Allison S on October 09, 2018, 12:01:20 PM
I'm not sure, a fireplace is nice. But maybe a man to warm me up would be even nicer lol
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Ah, but that man would turn on the AC in the middle of January. They seem to love the cold.
Silicon nipple covers.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on October 10, 2018, 05:59:21 PM
Ah, but that man would turn on the AC in the middle of January. They seem to love the cold.
Hahaha I guess we have to better accommodate for both then.. [emoji23]
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We love the cold, but then, we are Canadians.
We sold our house 8 months ago, and moved so far north in Ontario, there isn't a highway or neighbor for miles. We live completely off the grid.
We looked at properties even further north in the Yukon, but just couldn't find the right one.
☺️
I have not even started on hormones yet. My AC in my car is set to 16C (60.8F).
I can't stand the heat. Summer is killing me. I love the winter. It is much much easier to dress for cold weather than hot. You can't dress at all in hot weather. Haha
But I'm in Sweden. I travel to northern Sweden to ski each winter. It can be as cold as -15 to -30 C. (5 to -22 F) but colder than -15C...your face will freeze. You need to protect your face while skiing. And eyes.
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I need to shop for cardigans! To wear in the office during the summer.
I was born and raised in the mountains of Colorado. And I've always hated the cold and snow. My solution?
I moved to California. That simple.
cassie. Beware, you will be called a Liberal. ;D
Quote from: cassiebythesea on October 11, 2018, 10:45:26 PM
I was born and raised in the mountains of Colorado. And I've always hated the cold and snow. My solution?
I moved to California. That simple.
Isn't it great that we all love different weather? And there is a place for us all on earth where we thrive. :)
Tony
Yes it is! I love the cooler weather seasons. I don't tolerate heat well. Even my mother who's moved to a warmer climate laments not experiencing the change of seasons and the cool crisp air here in the Northeast.
Judi
Quote from: DawnOday on October 11, 2018, 11:25:10 PM
cassie. Beware, you will be called a Liberal. ;D
Oh, I've been called plenty worse.
Quote from: MeTony on October 11, 2018, 11:34:24 PM
Isn't it great that we all love different weather? And there is a place for us all on earth where we thrive. :)
Tony
You know, I'm totally willing to endure the 100+ summers for those fantastic winters that are in the 70s. Match that with the sea breeze rolling in, and I love it here.
Quote from: MeTony on October 11, 2018, 11:34:24 PM
Isn't it great that we all love different weather? And there is a place for us all on earth where we thrive. :)
Tony
Fortunately, we seldom see snow around here. But, it does get cold enough. And I know when the cold is on it's way. Getting old has given me a painful barometer called rhuematism. Warning for the younger generations: it's genetic. If your parents or grandparents got it, so will you.
It can sometimes be a pain getting cold weather gear. Most places only sell parkas, hats, and gloves as if Texas is part of Hawaii. Global climate change has not made it that warm in the winters yet.
My parent likes to keep it at 68 degrees at home. I'd prefer 70, but most of the time I'm ok with a few degrees below that. I like the cold more than the heat. I can at least layer up if I'm too cold, but in the heat...there's no escape. I'm actually numb to temperature half the time. In most places like restaurants or malls, I don't notice it unless it's at either extremes.
By not going outside. Of course.
Lots of drinking. LOL Just kidding.
I like to throw a jacket or shirt in the dryer a few minutes before leaving.
It gets very cold here, so that is my go too to get/stay warm fast.
I want a pair of fleece lined tights.
I moved from NW Wisconsin to SW Florida. My goal was to never ever have cold feet again. It was 88 today, no cold feet for me!
make sure you have plenty of warm drinks and wrap up warm as if you are too hot you can remove layers off make sure you have plenty of gas & electricity
Quote from: femchick67 on December 04, 2018, 01:43:21 PM
make sure you have plenty of warm drinks and wrap up warm as if you are too hot you can remove layers off make sure you have plenty of gas & electricity
Quote from: femchick67 on December 04, 2018, 09:25:58 AM
hi im 51 im 16 years post op male- female loving life nowadays being me accepted by society which i know can be hard looking to make friends and to help out with any advice needed pre op or post op most importantly make friends i live in UK work full time as community Carer love my job but can be really stressful at times a lot of responsibility .
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Quote from: femchick67 on December 04, 2018, 01:43:21 PM
make sure you have plenty of warm drinks and wrap up warm as if you are too hot you can remove layers off make sure you have plenty of gas & electricity
Quote from: femchick67 on December 04, 2018, 09:25:58 AM
hi im 51 im 16 years post op male- female loving life nowadays being me accepted by society which i know can be hard looking to make friends and to help out with any advice needed pre op or post op most importantly make friends i live in UK work full time as community Carer love my job but can be really stressful at times a lot of responsibility .
@femchick67 Oh, and another thing, Femchick,Would you please make a point to stop by
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Now, after all of this Official Greeting stuff just for you Femchick67 this thread can get back to normal !!!!
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I mentioned this to my Endo last week and there's actually a medical diagnoses code for this, as he diagnosed me with this after I mentioned him that I can't stand the cold as I used to do. Being on E hormones and having feminine T levels , welcome to womanhood
At work my coworkers still run the AC, even though its around and tonight below freezing. I get in at work and turn on the heat to 72F. (22C) At home my heat is set to about 80F. (26C)
PS.
What is ICD 10 code for postmenopausal?
Menopausal and female climacteric states N95.1 is a billable/specific ICD-10-CM code that can be used to indicate a diagnosis for reimbursement purposes. The 2018 edition of ICD-10-CM N95.1 became effective on October 1, 2017.
Me not, I live in Florida
Quote from: KallyFowler on December 12, 2018, 02:13:57 PM
Me not, I live in Florida
Me, too. And pretty close to as far south as you can be on the main land!
I think HRT does change the ability to take the cold. I am shivering cold even with the thermostat cranked up. Glad we had a dog who is a 4 legged heater. Probably should be spending more time snuggled up with my spouse...
I see the warning that this is an old topic, but I wanted to chime in, leave my two cents.
I'm usually good with in door between 60 and 75 or so. Outdoors is another story. If it's cold for a long time, like it has been lately, it's absolute murder at first, but lately, I'm finding that I get used to it pretty quickly. That's new. About two weeks of arctic cold, and I'm wearing shorts at 30 degrees, and loving it.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on September 03, 2018, 04:40:00 PM
I heard an interesting story on the news about how thermostats in office buildings are still to brisk temperatures, because most men are comfortable in temperatures in the low to mid seventies. Women whom do not cover up shiver and get goose pimples in that environment.
I wonder how it all stacks up for those whom are transgender. I know my hubby likes the AC set to 60°, if he can get away with it. I set it to 74° so the temperature will be closer to 77° where the bed is. I still cover up. He usually lays on top of the covers.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/
2015/08/04/429005094/women-theres-a-reason-why-youre-shivering-in-the-office (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/08/04/429005094/women-theres-a-reason-why-youre-shivering-in-the-office)
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My boyfriend learned the error of this practice of making it super cold because when I snuggled I would be cold and absorb his body heat.
Honestly, all the news about the latest polar vortex made me glad I live in Texas. It's bad enough when we get to 40°, since I have sciatica. There is no way I could handle -40°. Heck... today, we enjoyed t-shirt weather at a nice cozy 78° outside.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on February 04, 2019, 11:03:10 PM
Honestly, all the news about the latest polar vortex made me glad I live in Texas. It's bad enough when we get to 40°, since I have sciatica. There is no way I could handle -40°. Heck... today, we enjoyed t-shirt weather at a nice cozy 78° outside.
I'm in Texas too and it was beautiful today.
Quote from: NatalieRene on February 04, 2019, 11:40:55 PM
I'm in Texas too and it was beautiful today.
Kind of cool in Texas, isn't it? It was mid 80's here, and it is about tim to put the down coats away . Southern Floridians are wearing those at any temperature below 70!
If estrogen ended up changing my temperature tolerances I'm not sure how I would feel. I quite like preferring the cold, because it is just naturally easier to deal with. Even cold indoor temperatures are so much easier to deal with than hot, and they make me feel much better than warmer indoor temperatures which just put me in really bad mood and stifle my ability to sleep under the covers I want to.
On the other hand, I live in the south US and the temperature veers warm to hot here, and can even get too warm for me in the winter. I'm tired of hating the weather the vast majority of the year. I just can't understand why people look forward to Spring when the temperatures are already mostly in the 50s and 60s during the winter. Is that not what Spring is supposed to be like and not the hot mid-70s, 80s, and 90s that we always get in calendar Spring?
On the other other hand (lol, sorry), my family is thinking of moving Northeast, so more susceptibility to the cold could be quite detrimental for me. Still, I think I already have weird, uneven temperature tolerances. I can get cold super easily already, but I get hot super easily too. Even if it's in the 60s, if the sun is out and the wind is absent I will feel very uncomfortably warm. It's gotten worse in recent years. I've always gotten cold pretty easily, but getting warm super easily is happening more often as of late.
@Virelai
I lived for over 40 years at the Minnesota/Wisconsin border. Anybody who has no lived around there, has no idea what cold temperatures are (there is a reason that almost all global car manufacturers have their cold weather labs there in northern Minnesota).
I was so sick and tired of freezing half of the year that I moved a year ago to south west Florida. It feels great to never ever have cold feet again! You can move as north as you want, I came to the conclusion that i an crank the air up, if it gets to warm!
Quote from: Dietlind on February 08, 2019, 02:30:40 PM
@Virelai
I lived for over 40 years at the Minnesota/Wisconsin border. Anybody who has no lived around there, has no idea what cold temperatures are (there is a reason that almost all global car manufacturers have their cold weather labs there in northern Minnesota).
I was so sick and tired of freezing half of the year that I moved a year ago to south west Florida. It feels great to never ever have cold feet again! You can move as north as you want, I came to the conclusion that i an crank the air up, if it gets to warm!
I have no doubt the sheer cold that the Northern states like Minnesota, Wisconsin deal with. That's why it is good my family is thinking Northeast, like the New England states. There it is cold during the winter, but not like -30F cold. If anything New England winters are more how I imagine winter should be, whereas winter I live is so fake and people complaining about it just makes me laugh. Today it is just barely not going to reach freezing (32 degrees) for a high, and *that* is what people where I live consider arctic air. That's chilly, yes, but just think that's what people around here freak out about. lol
I wonder if that's what estrogen would turn me into. That thought kind of scares me. But I need it... No matter how it changes me...
Southwest Florida? I don't think I could be paid to live in Florida. I seriously think I would be so depressed, since autumn and winter are what make me happy. Florida just looks like it has everything I hate - heat, humidity, bugs, tornadoes, hurricanes, everything bad. All year around. No thank you! No air-conditioner my family has ever had can completely combat the heat and I can't stand it.
What skinny GGs do where I work is to wear multiple layers.
Kohls just sent me a 30% off coupon so I bought a gray cardigan and five long sleeved tops, for an average discount of 81% I took the day off so I could see a movie and shop before the discount racks were picked over by the weekend crowd.
Funny how 62 F days in the summer feel great but that same temperature in winter is more challenging?
I love those cuddle by the fireplace solutions, such a warm image. :D I live in the pacific northwest temperate rainforest along the coast and love it. Feels like perpetual spring and fall weather here with a forest biomass and ocean nearby to moderate temperatures. It is usually around 50 F, give or take 10-20 for seasonal shifts. We get many feet of rain with our swamps, bogs, fens, forests and estuaries enjoying every drop. Cold that is temporary can be fun but I just visited my birth home of Minnesnowta where the day I left it was 28 F below zero with a windchill of -50. Now that felt just plain frightening at times, brrrr
Quote from: Tessa James on February 08, 2019, 05:54:51 PM
I just visited my birth home of Minnesnowta where the day I left it was 28 F below zero with a windchill of -50. Now that felt just plain frightening at times, brrrr
Work kept me there for 40+ years, in the grips of the eternal winter! I m so glad now to not have cold feet again. It was 83º here today, and that is just right for my old bones!
Quote from: Dietlind on February 08, 2019, 06:41:57 PM
It was 83º here today, and that is just right for my old bones!
That sounds great. I've been working on the east coast for a couple of months now, at the 40ish degrees we got today felt like a calm reprieve. It was nice. I think I'm going to do Arizona next year, though.
I have been following this thread since it was started back in September last year by
@Lady Sarah ... I have resisted posting a comment here until now because I am just the
opposite of the premise of the Subject Title...
"How do YOU handle the cold?"Handling the cold up here where I live is not an issue if one wears the proper clothing, hats, boots, gloves, etc, and keeps vehicles and homes well maintained with properly working heating equipment, etc.
I have a
much bigger issue with
handling the high HEAT and humidity down south....
One can only take off so many clothes... and cooling a car and a home is much more difficult and more expensive than HEATING them.... science and physics backs up that fact...
This coming summer with the occasional heatwaves that happen in many states I just may start a thread,
"How do YOU handle the heat?"Now, with much of the "lower 48"... many states and areas of the USA are experiencing the
opposite of Global Warming with very unseasonably colder weather... sub-zero temperatures, icy and snowy weather with snow accumulations exceeding the norms.
I trust that all of my Forums friends are staying safe, staying dry, and staying warm.
Regarding staying warm... I like to do it in a very pleasant way, In the Late Summer or Fall Season on a chilly night I have a back yard fire pit that I sit in front of and that I cuddle up with
my favorite suitor#4, my Toothfairy, and have a "Toasty Toes" evening.
I also have a propane fireplace in my living room that in the dead of a bitter cold winter is utilized the very same pleasant way.
Hugs and stay warm,
Danielle(https://i.imgur.com/z9crVEE.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Hn1SCzW.jpg)
Well, first thing is don't wear narrow clothes. Second thing, many layears of clothes won't help, why, because rule #1, don't wear narrow clothes. Third thing is drink hot beverages and if you can go into shop or cafee just go, it can help you to warm up a little.
Quote from: Carna on February 18, 2019, 06:41:54 AM
Well, first thing is don't wear narrow clothes. Second thing, many layears of clothes won't help, why, because rule #1, don't wear narrow clothes. Third thing is drink hot beverages and if you can go into shop or cafee just go, it can help you to warm up a little.
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As you post on the forums you will be able to exchange thoughts and comments with others that are experiencing many of the same things that you are. I expect that you will be getting many members offering their thoughts and suggestions as you continue to post here.
This is the right place for you to be to find out what others may have to say that may have been in your circumstances and with your questions and concerns.
There are a lot of members here that will be able to identify with your situation and as you continue to feel free to share with all of us.
I also want to warmly
WELCOME you to Susan's Place.
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Quote from: Carna on February 18, 2019, 06:41:54 AM
Well, first thing is don't wear narrow clothes. Second thing, many layears of clothes won't help, why, because rule #1, don't wear narrow clothes. Third thing is drink hot beverages and if you can go into shop or cafee just go, it can help you to warm up a little.
@Carna Oh, and another thing Carna...
Please plan to write a post and tell us more about yourself in the Introductions Forum (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,8.0.html) so that other members will be aware of your arrival... therefore you will be able to share your thoughts with more members here.
Thank you again for joining Susan's Place and being involved in the Forums here.
Best wishes to you,
DanielleNOTE: Now after all of this Greeting Stuff I will let you have your thread back so you can pursue answers to your questions.
Other members here will certainly be along to give you their comments and suggestions that you may be seeking
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on February 08, 2019, 10:32:56 PM
I have been following this thread since it was started back in September last year by @Lady Sarah ... I have resisted posting a comment here until now because I am just the opposite of the premise of the Subject Title... "How do YOU handle the cold?"
Handling the cold up here where I live is not an issue if one wears the proper clothing, hats, boots, gloves, etc, and keeps vehicles and homes well maintained with properly working heating equipment, etc.
I have a much bigger issue with handling the high HEAT and humidity down south....
One can only take off so many clothes... and cooling a car and a home is much more difficult and more expensive than HEATING them.... science and physics backs up that fact...
This coming summer with the occasional heatwaves that happen in many states I just may start a thread, "How do YOU handle the heat?"
Now, with much of the "lower 48"... many states and areas of the USA are experiencing the opposite of Global Warming with very unseasonably colder weather... sub-zero temperatures, icy and snowy weather with snow accumulations exceeding the norms.
I trust that all of my Forums friends are staying safe, staying dry, and staying warm.
Regarding staying warm... I like to do it in a very pleasant way, In the Late Summer or Fall Season on a chilly night I have a back yard fire pit that I sit in front of and that I cuddle up with my favorite suitor#4, my Toothfairy, and have a "Toasty Toes" evening.
I also have a propane fireplace in my living room that in the dead of a bitter cold winter is utilized the very same pleasant way.
Hugs and stay warm,
Danielle
You have adapted to a colder climate. I can imagine you prefer the summers over the winters tho.
I have noticed many vehicles in Texas with Alaska plates. Some television shows have shown just how brutal Alaskan winters can be.
Those whom have adapted to hotter climates can handle the heat much better. However, this thread was about men and women living within the same microclimate (At any particular location) handling temperature variances much differently than their counterparts. I even referenced a study demonstrating that men prefer cooler temperatures than women.
This could be because (in some work places) men wear suits, while women wear lighter clothing, with less of an insulation factor. Coincidentally, it might be that some women choose to dress provocatively, and lack the insulated layers of a suit.
Personally, I dress for comfort. I am 52, and married. I need not dress to attract a mate. Still, the cold seems to cut right through me, and my joints feel every bit of it.
I just bought a collection of sweaters and cardigans. I got a complement from a GG about the one from Forever 21. It is easily the warmest of the bunch.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on September 10, 2018, 06:21:10 PM
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My husband will wear shorts and a tank top when it's 50° outside, and wonders why I put on a jacket. He is only 2 inches shorter than I am, but also outweighs me by 35 lbs. He has more of his own insulation than I do, and wonders why I don't like the cold as much as he does.
Quote from: Lady Sarah on February 18, 2019, 11:05:41 PM
... However, this thread was about men and women living within the same microclimate (At any particular location) handling temperature variances much differently than their counterparts. I even referenced a study demonstrating that men prefer cooler temperatures than women.
This could be because (in some work places) men wear suits, while women wear lighter clothing, with less of an insulation factor. Coincidentally, it might be that some women choose to dress provocatively, and lack the insulated layers of a suit.
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It is interesting that men seem to feel the cold less. Women usually have a higher percentage of body fat. Women's nipples are obviously more sensitive but apart from that, I would have thought that their body fat would help in cold weather. Of course, body fat is on the inside of the skin so if the skin is more sensitive, body fat may keep internal organs from freezing but it won't make women feel the cold less.
My mother used to say that men do feel the cold but that they often wear less to show how tiough they are. However, that would not explain why HRT makes trans women more sensitive to cold.
For myself, like many people, I can't afford to warm my home, so in winter, I wear a hat indoors even though I have a good head of hair. When I neglect to do so, I become really ill quite quickly. In winter I also wear two pairs of socks including a thick pair and I am going to get a balaclava to sleep in. I sometimes tie a scarf around my head to cover my ears and nose.
I would wear another layer, such as a sweater, to warm.
Chrissy
I am so glad that I left all of that cold stuff behind! It was 89 F today, I even had to turn the air on for a while!
I would get under some comfy warm blankets.
Chrissy
Quote from: Dietlind on February 19, 2019, 07:44:56 PM
I am so glad that I left all of that cold stuff behind! It was 89 F today, I even had to turn the air on for a while!
@Dietlind Dear Linde......
You've gotta be kidding... here way up North it
snowed heavily last night and earlier today and is
12 deg F right now at almost 5:00pm and tonight will be
-4 deg F.
Then in the upper Midwest it is snow and cold coming their way and lots of rain and flooding in the South Central states.
Please enjoy the nice weather and your Air Conditioning as your recover from your surgery.
I am always wishing you the best,
Hugs,
Danielle
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on February 19, 2019, 07:53:16 PM
@Dietlind
Dear Linde......
You've gotta be kidding... here way up North it snowed heavily last night and earlier today and is 12 deg F right now at almost 5:00pm and tonight will be -4 deg F.
Then in the upper Midwest it is snow and cold coming their way and lots of rain and flooding in the South Central states.
Please enjoy the nice weather and your Air Conditioning as your recover from your surgery.
I am always wishing you the best,
Hugs,
Danielle
It is 12 F at the place I ran away from 1 1/2 years ago! I had that experience for more than 40 years. I think I have the right to get at least some decades with warm weather now!
Thank you for your good wishes!
I can't remember if I commented on this but since starting HRT I've had problems tolerating the cold. It seems that as soon as the sun goes down I start shivering like crazy and have to add another layer and find an afghan (or something) to wrap up in. Adding another layer helps https://oureverydaylife.com/how-to-wear-pantyhose-or-tights-for-warmth-12580713.html
I used to handle the cold better in years past, working outside during the winter I just got used to being in the cold. The cold temps we get similar to this winter has been coldest at -30c but the last 5 weeks have been -15 to -25c. So I have several layers of down to layer for the temp and activity I am doing then also being in the sun on a cold clear day certainly helps. Insulated/thick hats plus items called buffs (tubular cloth for around the neck) and neck gaiters, warm gloves and/or mitts, 1 or 2 insulating layers on the legs. Now what I have found this winter after my toes getting cold, are electric socks with a all day lasting chargeable battery pack, that just took the cold out of winter. As well as mentioned lots of hot drinks, and no alcohol. As much as a nice hot toddy is, during the day no thank you(because of work), but afterwards back in a nice warm building yes it is a nice sip on one.
For the bed, down duvets, even double up on those when really cold.
I feel I am getting colder in my later years more than I used to, could be just lack insulation on the body(read fat) LoL!
Yes Danielle I agree, my question in retrospect is, "How do I handle the heat?"
Being on HRT I have not noticed any changes yet, but I am sure I will.
Liina
Quote from: Carna on February 18, 2019, 06:41:54 AM
Well, first thing is don't wear narrow clothes. Second thing, many layears of clothes won't help, why, because rule #1, don't wear narrow clothes. Third thing is drink hot beverages and if you can go into shop or cafee just go, it can help you to warm up a little.
I spent half a century in Massachusetts, wearing multiple layers is THE best way to stay warm, and I'm sure anyone else from a cold climate would agree with that.
I've never put it to the test but I am reminded of a little rhyme that I read in a science primer, when I was a child:
If you must climb the Himalayas
Despite your mother's prayers,
It is best to begin with wool next to the skin
And then layers and layers and layers.
The book went on to explain that wool is a very good insulator.
As was mentioned by many others on this thread.... putting on many layers of clothing helps a lot.
.... and also...
Avoid skin-tight tops and form fitting stretch clothing like skinny jeans, leggings and tights... they do not insulate well from the cold, looser fit clothing allows a warm air buffer between your skin and the material and outside cold.
The nice thing about wearing layers is that once you are inside you can take off the outside layers and still be presentably dressed.
When outside in the bitter cold, wool hats that cover the ears, scarf around the neck, warm gloves, wool socks and insulated boots are what we do here where I live in the depths of winter cold weather.
Danielle
Quote from: Devlyn on March 05, 2019, 01:46:33 PM
I spent half a century in Massachusetts, wearing multiple layers is THE best way to stay warm, and I'm sure anyone else from a cold climate would agree with that.
Yes, I spent 40+ years of my life in Minnesonwta, I know what cold is, up there we know him by his first name.
And yes, the more layers you can pack on (It can be thin material), the more air is trapped between the layers, and the warmer you are. Up there everybody wears so many layers that the people are absolutely looking gender neutral! The only thing that gives them away is their voice!
I grew up in VA which had a winter but nothing compared to the north of course. That said it was plenty for me and I started making my way south as soon as I could. Me and the cold just never got along. I don't know how those that have to deal with months of bitter cold do it.
Freezing.... brrr. When the sun goes down I start looking for extra layers. Its the only problem I have with Estrogen.
I find it helps to wear more insulation up top. I carry fat in the lower half of my body, so if I insulate the top and bottom of my body equally, I'll feel cold. But, if I insulate the top better with layers, and not so much with my legs, I'll feel warmer.