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Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 05, 2017, 05:19:10 PM
I think it is time for me to start a blog thread.  It seems to be the thing to do, and it would keep all my "well that was interesting" posts together, where they might make more sense than they do individually.

So, to start, here is a quickie bio so I can begin this thread with my story up to date...  I am 63 years old.  All my life I wondered if I was transgender (though I didn't know the word), but I always managed to talk myself out of it.  A little over two years ago, I attended a convention where the keynote talk was given by a transgender woman.  The fact that her trans-ness was not an issue either for her or for the audience cracked through my internalized transphobia and got me exploring. 

I quickly found Susan's Place, and, after a few months, got myself figured out to the point where I knew for sure I was trans.  Six months after that (Yes, it took me that long to get up the nerve!) I was able to come out to my wife.  I got myself into a support group, into therapy, got my referral letter, and started HRT in January of 2017.  I went full-time in April, 2017, and have been enjoying life ever since.

My wife is my biggest supporter, and has been since day one.  I have few family members: two brothers, both supportive, and a cousin half a world away who is accepting.  Friends and neighbours range from supportive to accepting.  No bad experiences at all. :)

-----

Which brings me to the present.  Though things are going well, I am not done yet.  My body dysphoria was never intense, but it was there all along.  Now that my other forms of dysphoria are coming under control, the body dysphoria is front and centre.  So I am planning to get surgery.

Last week, I started seeing a therapist for the first of my referral letters for SRS.  Though I have gone private for my therapy to cut through the waiting lists, I can't afford SRS, so I am stuck with our public system and its waiting lists.  The bad news is that I have no choice of surgeon: there is only one that they will use.  The good news is that the one surgeon is Dr. Brassard. 

So it's not so bad, if I can jump through all the right hoops.  I have another therapy appointment in the New Year, after which I will probably have my first letter.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 05, 2017, 05:19:30 PM
Today, I had my weekly electrolysis appointment.  I did some laser last year, but there was only so much they could do, since most of my facial hair is white.  And once I started on estrogen, my skin started to react to the laser. I now have a nice melasma spot on my cheek the shape and size of the laser probe.  So it's all electro from here on.

For the past month, my electrologist has been working on the first clearing around my mouth.  We quickly established that EMLA cream wasn't going to cut it for pain relief, so I arranged with my dentist to have the areas frozen before each session.  That worked beautifully, so my upper lip, lower lip and part of my chin are all clear for the time being.  She is not expecting to have to use such high power settings on any regrowth that occurs.

Now we are working on the part under my chin and down the neck.  That area is almost as sensitive as the mouth area, but it is out of the reach of dental anesthetic.  I was able to find some 5% lidocaine and used that for the first time today. 

I wasn't impressed: the pain felt similar to using EMLA.  Until she told me at the end of the session that she had cranked the machine up way higher than she ever had before.  So the 5% works really well!

Still, it was wearing off by the end of the session.  I found out that crying actually helps cope with the pain!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 05, 2017, 06:08:22 PM
Kathy,

   I am glad to see you start this thread. In my opinion it is long over due. I look forward to following you as your story continues to develop and watching you grow. You have always been one that I appreciate and have been a model for me to follow. I have admired your progress and your attitude is inspiring for so many here on Susan's.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 06, 2017, 07:47:07 AM
Thank you Laurie!  I feel a bit self conscious about being called a role model because most of my good fortune has been pure dumb luck.  But coming from one of my own role models - thinking of your epic road trip, for example - that means a lot.

My neighbour called this morning: she had a carpenter over doing some work on their house and he discovered a leaking pipe.  She wanted to know if she could borrow some plumbing wrenches.  Having done the guy thing for so long, I have a well stocked toolbox, so no problem.

She is one of the few people whom I don't mind seeing me without a wig.  (My wife is the other one.)  Which is handy: I don't really want to dress up when a neighbour pops over to borrow tools.   She calls herself queer, but most people would call her and her partner lesbians.  She works with LGBT youth, so she was the perfect person to come out to after I told my wife.  She helped me find the resources I needed to begin transitioning.

That is the kind of thing I mean by dumb luck.  Who would have thought that, in a rural community of no more than 300 people, my next-door neighbour would be the ideal ally?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Megan. on December 06, 2017, 08:12:23 AM
*Megan tunes into the Kathy channel* [emoji4]

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 06, 2017, 08:22:37 AM
Now we're getting somewhere! Got the popcorn ready and relaxing for the show.

Yet again I wish we didn't live so far apart. A face to face yak session would be so cool, but this is a good second choice.

Steph
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 06, 2017, 10:21:16 AM
This news story, about the Montreal Massacre 28 years ago (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-polytechnique-memorial-2017-1.4432979 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-polytechnique-memorial-2017-1.4432979)), reminded me of this significant development in my awareness of my femininity.  The massacre happened when 14 women were murdered at a university in Montreal specifically because they were women and they were pursuing a higher education.  I saw the news reports at the time and I remember it well.

At the time, I was horrified, as I thought any right-minded person would be.  But when I tried to talk about my feelings of horror, I was told, in no uncertain terms, that, because the victims were targeted because they were women, as "a man", I could not possibly comprehend the feeling. 

I learned to keep my mouth shut about my feelings on the subject.  I didn't believe I felt the horror any less than women did, and I resented not being allowed to talk about it.  But clearly, my reaction was not typical, and I found myself wondering about that along with everything else over the years.

Now, of course, I have a different perspective.  I don't believe that those who silenced me were right that only women could feel the horror.  Yet perhaps I did feel it more intensely than men did.  Because, now, in hindsight, I realize that I was one of them.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 06, 2017, 11:54:54 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on December 06, 2017, 08:22:37 AM
Yet again I wish we didn't live so far apart. A face to face yak session would be so cool, but this is a good second choice.

Steph

   Kathy, I don't think you should allow Steph(anie)'s excuse. First off, in my opinion you two are not that far apart. and for a second She has a plane. Granted I don't know performance details nor any of the logistic of an aerial trip in a private plane, but I still wouldn't let her get away with it.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 06, 2017, 12:03:32 PM
Quote from: Laurie on December 06, 2017, 11:54:54 AM
   Kathy, I don't think you should allow Steph(anie)'s excuse. First off, in my opinion you two are not that far apart. and for a second She has a plane. Granted I don't know performance details nor any of the logistic of an aerial trip in a private plane, but I still wouldn't let her get away with it.

Heh. First, it's a 100mph plane. It's gotta be 1500 miles door to door. 15 hours is a bit much. Second, the class license I have (US Sport Pilot) doesn't allow me to fly in the Great White North. And lastly, I ain't flying north of the Mason-Dixon Line this time of year. Brrrrrrr!

Now, my neighbor has a 300mph twin and he's headed back to Sault Saint Marie, Canada for the holidays soon. That's only about 4 hours...

Gnaw, still too cold...

Steph, finally enjoying FL weather after a looong hot summer.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: DawnOday on December 06, 2017, 12:17:05 PM
Dumb or not, luck is luck. Destiny is destiny.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 06, 2017, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on December 06, 2017, 12:03:32 PM
Heh. First, it's a 100mph plane. It's gotta be 1500 miles door to door. 15 hours is a bit much.


Lets see... 1500 miles in 15hours vs my 8000+ miles in 31 days...

  Yep just lame excuses. nothing but lames excuses. If I remember right someone has asked me to make a 3400 mile drive to come visit a few times now. I wish I could remember who that was.

  Don't let her get away with it Kathy.
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 06, 2017, 12:51:38 PM
Quote from: Laurie on December 06, 2017, 12:46:41 PMIf I remember right someone has asked me to make a 3400 mile drive to come visit a few times now. I wish I could remember who that was.

Eh, you could do that standin' on yer wig.

QuoteDon't let her get away with it Kathy.

Or... since someone 3400 miles away won't come see me (with some lame excuse), maybe Kathy can come enjoy my guest room and this lovely weather.


Steph(anie)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 06, 2017, 12:56:25 PM
Stephanie (or any other sisters from Susan's for that matter) would certainly be welcome here, and I'd even come pick her up at the airport.  Once I get my paperwork sorted out, which will take a couple of years, (and after a couple of impeachments / convictions have been processed), I'd be happy to meet her halfway.

I wish I could still sign out a jet and a fuel credit card and go anywhere.  I'm thinking it would be about 3 hops, about 4 hours, to get to Florida from here.  Unfortunately, those days are long gone.

Quote from: Steph2.0 on December 06, 2017, 12:51:38 PM
Or... since someone 3400 miles away won't come see me (with some lame excuse), maybe Kathy can come enjoy my guest room and this lovely weather.
I'd love to.  Wish I could!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 06, 2017, 01:00:08 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 06, 2017, 12:56:25 PMOnce I get my paperwork sorted out, which will take a couple of years, (and after a couple of impeachments / convictions have been processed), I'd be happy to meet her halfway.

Hmmm. Good point. Maybe I will come visit.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 07, 2017, 11:27:42 AM
There's a guy in the community here who used to be the manager of the local restaurant until he retired last year.  He had waited on our table many times and certainly remembers my wife, who liked to be bratty with him.  (Don't worry, he gave as good as he got, all in fun.)  So today, he and his wife came to the community coffee gathering, the first time we have seen him since before I transitioned.

As he sat down, he looked at me and asked, "Who is this young lady?"  I thought he was just being cute, but, being a properly-brought-up lady, I introduced myself: "Hi, I'm Kathy."  But then he introduced himself: "I'm L____", as though he thought I didn't know him, followed by introducing his wife, whom I had never met.

It could be taken multiple ways, and I'm not going to put a lot of effort into over-thinking the interaction.  But the simplest explanation is that he actually didn't recognize me, in which case it's a multiple pass: I look sufficiently unlike my former self that he didn't make the connection; he gendered me as female; and he didn't clock me as trans.  Wow!

Or, knowing that he is a bit mischievous, maybe he was just putting me on.

Whatever the explanation, it was a fun way to start the morning.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Megan. on December 07, 2017, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 07, 2017, 11:27:42 AM
There's a guy in the community here who used to be the manager of the local restaurant until he retired last year.  He had waited on our table many times and certainly remembers my wife, who liked to be bratty with him.  (Don't worry, he gave as good as he got, all in fun.)  So today, he and his wife came to the community coffee gathering, the first time we have seen him since before I transitioned.

As he sat down, he looked at me and asked, "Who is this young lady?"  I thought he was just being cute, but, being a properly-brought-up lady, I introduced myself: "Hi, I'm Kathy."  But then he introduced himself: "I'm L____", as though he thought I didn't know him, followed by introducing his wife, whom I had never met.

It could be taken multiple ways, and I'm not going to put a lot of effort into over-thinking the interaction.  But the simplest explanation is that he actually didn't recognize me, in which case it's a multiple pass: I look sufficiently unlike my former self that he didn't make the connection; he gendered me as female; and he didn't clock me as trans.  Wow!

Or, knowing that he is a bit mischievous, maybe he was just putting me on.

Whatever the explanation, it was a fun way to start the morning.
This would drive me mad, but either way a great and positive experience! X

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 07, 2017, 03:41:39 PM
Oh good! You have your own thread Kathy. I just caught myself up and ready to read your stories.

And just to add my 2cents about living far apart, I am claiming that prize!!! Can't get a whole lot further from NS than Sydney. Whenever my wife and I go back to visit her family in NA, it feels like we have traveled for weeks.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 07, 2017, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on December 07, 2017, 03:41:39 PM
And just to add my 2cents about living far apart, I am claiming that prize!!! Can't get a whole lot further from NS than Sydney. Whenever my wife and I go back to visit her family in NA, it feels like we have traveled for weeks.
Well if you're in NS and don't drop in, I'll never speak to you again!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on December 07, 2017, 09:21:02 PM
Hi Kathy,

I am happy to see you starting your story thread, I have always appreciated your comments in other threads and look forward to having a place to watch it unfold. The pop corn is in the microwave, let the show begin.

And Deb and I are hoping to make it up into north eastern Canada next fall, would love to stop in and visit.

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 07, 2017, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 07, 2017, 05:23:09 PM
Well if you're in NS and don't drop in, I'll never speak to you again!
I certainly wouldn't want you to not talk to me. We are hoping to get back there for Christmas next year, depending if I can get the time off work. Next Christmas seems so far away.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 09, 2017, 01:40:21 PM
My wife and I went Christmas shopping today.  We didn't intend to, but she really wanted a stool with a hooked-rug seat that had a picture of a kitty on it.  She really, really wanted it, so I told her it was her Christmas present.  Which meant that, when we passed our favourite second-hand clothing store, I got to pick out two sweaters and a brooch for my Christmas present.  :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 09, 2017, 02:16:25 PM
Good for you both... Now go wrap them and put them uder the tree until Christmas.
  Go on do as you're told ladies.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 11, 2017, 11:39:17 AM
My wife wanted to go to a local discount clothing store for something she needded, so of course I tagged along.  I found a couple of tops and a pair of corduroy pants for casual wear in winter.

When we got home, she saw the cords and was worried that they might be men's pants, displayed improperly in the store.  The legs are wide for hanging over boots, rather than slim for tucking into boots, and could be mistaken for a men's style.  I modeled them for her, and we quickly established that they are indeed women's pants.  The back pockets are fake and the fly is way too short for a guy.  Whew!

But how nice it is to have someone looking out for my presentation, to make sure I look my best! 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 11, 2017, 01:37:11 PM
 What you describe for the bottom of the legs is what I get when ordering boot cut jeans. They are wider so they are able to fit over the boot's shaft.
  Sounds normal to me. Now wrap those also and put them under the tree with the others young lady.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 11, 2017, 02:29:31 PM
Quote from: Laurie on December 11, 2017, 01:37:11 PM
Now wrp those also and put them under the tree with the others young lady.
Heck, no.  The cords aren't a Christmas present, so I get to wear them whenever I want.  And as for the sweaters, my wife already has her kitty stool (no, I'm not talking about the litter box contents) on display in the living room, so I get to wear them now, too.  Already have, in fact!   ;D

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 11, 2017, 02:34:09 PM
 Rebellious foreigners!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 11, 2017, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Laurie on December 11, 2017, 02:34:09 PM
Rebellious foreigners!
But so polite!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 12, 2017, 05:12:08 PM
I discovered that transitioning can help a bad back.  I threw out my sacro-illiac joint a couple of days ago.  It turns out that the firm-control briefs that I use for tucking are just the thing to support the wonky joint.  And an hour on the electrologist's table, especially with the involuntary muscle flexing caused by the pain, is perfect for massaging the joint back into place.   :-\
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on December 12, 2017, 05:24:55 PM
Does the electrologist get to double bill for the muscle manipulation work, or do you have to pay yourself?   These things are important to know!

I discovered the same thing about the control top/high rise briefs. What a relief those are!


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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 12, 2017, 05:47:47 PM
Quote from: Michelle_P on December 12, 2017, 05:24:55 PM
Does the electrologist get to double bill for the muscle manipulation work, or do you have to pay yourself?   These things are important to know!
I didn't tell her about my back.  What she doesn't know won't hurt her.  :)

A fun exchange with my wife today.  We were stuck in traffic, waiting to make a left turn at an intersection that ought to have lights.
Wife: Maybe you should just go straight.
Me: I tried that for 62 years.  It didn't work.
I'm not usually that quick.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 12, 2017, 06:51:47 PM
That was a good one Kathy.

Chalk up another smile and a laugh from Laurie.

Thanks,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 13, 2017, 03:24:54 PM
I just learned something.  According to the World Health Organization, I am "young".  They define ages as follows:
• 0-17 years old: underage
• 18-65 years old: youth/young people
• 66-79 years old: middle-aged
• 80-99 years old: elderly/senior
• 100+ years old: long-lived elderly

I like it!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 13, 2017, 04:58:13 PM
Did you previously consider yourself something other than "young"?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 13, 2017, 05:27:11 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on December 13, 2017, 04:58:13 PM
Did you previously consider yourself something other than "young"?
Of course not.  But it is affirming to have someone confirm officially what I knew all along.  :D  Unfortunately, I only have three more years of youth left before I'm - eek! - middle aged.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 13, 2017, 09:22:48 PM
Now you've made me sad Kathy. This is my last year to be young. I may make it to middle aged. I feel so old

Hugs.
Old Lady Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on December 13, 2017, 09:45:09 PM
I don't know Kathy, your chart tells me that I have been middle aged for several years but I feel like I belong with the youth/young people. At least that was the group I was dancing with last week end (in 3 1/2" pumps no less)!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 13, 2017, 11:10:44 PM
You tell that youngster Tia!

Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 14, 2017, 10:20:18 AM
Silly me, I forgot that the clock gets re-set to 13 when you start HRT.  So most of us are underage.   :D

Made a great Freudian slip today.  A FB friend was complaining about all the conflict and strife in the world and in her inbox.  I thought it would be appropriate to wish her a harmonious 2018.  Except I spelled it "hormonious"!  I swear it was unintentional!   :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on December 14, 2017, 02:33:10 PM
Sure Kathy, it was unintentional, we believe you.....but we are beginning to see an entirely new side of the sweet innocent Canadian girl we once thought we knew.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 16, 2017, 03:15:40 PM
Things have slowed right down here, so there's not much happening.  Most of my regular activities are on Christmas break now.  The weather is too cold to do anything useful outside.  I got all excited yesterday because there was a fresh snowfall.  Oh, goody, I thought, I'll get out the snowblower and clear the driveway.  Nope, there was enough to make driving bad, but not enough to use the snowblower.  So there's another hour spent on the Internet instead.

Today being Saturday, I would normally have gone into the city (an hour and a half each way) for the support group.  But the roads were bad, so I skipped out on that.

I'm actually finding it hard to get motivated to do much of anything.  (I wasn't really heartbroken when I couldn't blow out the driveway.)  I think I probably have a mild SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder).  I usually get lethargic this time of year.  I think it is related to the short days: the sun sets at 4:30 pm at this latitude right now.

Next week, I have a doctor appointment to renew my HRT prescriptions.  My doctor is in the city, so the same hour and a half as for the support group.  If the roads are bad again, I'll see if I can do the appointment by phone and get her to fax the prescription to the pharmacy.  The pharmacy is on the local town, so it's only a 25 minute drive.  I'll do that trip no matter what the roads are like, because I do not want to run out of my E!

So that's me right now: kinda hibernating.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 17, 2017, 12:24:23 AM
And here I thought you Canadians thrived in the snow and cold. You're destroying my stereotype.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 19, 2017, 06:40:22 AM
I have my quarterly appointment today to renew my HRT prescription.  I tried to make it for last week, but this was the first appoinement I could get.  The doctor is an hour and a half drive from here.  I'm on my last patch, which runs out Friday.

Wouldn't you know it, there's freezing rain this morning.  Crap!  It's going to be a nasty drive.

I don't think she will do the appointment over the phone.  Someone else was complaining online about that yesterday - same clinic - that they won't do phone consults because they only get paid for office visits.

I really hope that they get enough salt on the roads.  If I can make it to the top of the "mountain", I'll probably be okay: the far side is a school bus route, so it is well-maintained.  And the big highway will probably just be wet, though I'll need lots of washer fluid for the salt spray.

But it's got me stressed out.  I don't want to miss the appointment and run out of E.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 19, 2017, 06:51:46 AM
I've seen the "mountains" around there. They're about as big as the "mountains" over here. [emoji12]
Nonetheless, please be careful on the slippery roads.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 19, 2017, 10:59:22 AM
Yes Kathy please be careful.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 19, 2017, 03:09:15 PM
Whew!  The freezing rain had turned to plain old rain by the time I hit the highway.  Still an ugly drive, but not nearly as dangerous as I had feared.  I made it to my appointment, and I have my prescription renewed for 6 months.  :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 19, 2017, 05:20:46 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 19, 2017, 03:09:15 PM
Whew!  The freezing rain had turned to plain old rain by the time I hit the highway.  Still an ugly drive, but not nearly as dangerous as I had feared.  I made it to my appointment, and I have my prescription renewed for 6 months.  :D
Excellent! I'm glad you made the trip safely and got what you needed.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 20, 2017, 03:24:17 PM
I got home from walking the dog today and caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror.  I was wearing an unflattering tuque, shapeless dog-walking clothes, no makeup, no wig.  And yet, when I saw myself in the mirror, I though, "She's looking good!"

About an hour later, my wife and I are driving into town to do some errands.  She looks over at me and says, "You know, you look more like Kathy all the time."

So I guess the E is continuing to work its magic.  Okay, I am going to continue to squawk about the lack of boob growth - it goes with the territory.  But, on the whole, I am happy with how my HRT is working.

I continue to enjoy being me.  When I go places, people are happy to see me.  I am still pleasantly surprised by that.  I went to my dentist's office to give her a thank you card.  (She froze my lips for electrolysis for free.)  She gave me a great big hug.  Her receptionist wanted to know where I got my winter coat.  It's little stuff, but it all makes me happy to be alive.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Megan. on December 20, 2017, 03:27:29 PM
Kathy, it's lovely to hear how the simple pleasures in life are bringing you joy and happiness, long may it continue! X

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 20, 2017, 06:27:06 PM
That is so wonderful hear Kathy. Life is meant to be enjoyed. Good for you.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on December 20, 2017, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 06, 2017, 10:21:16 AM
This news story, about the Montreal Massacre 28 years ago (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-polytechnique-memorial-2017-1.4432979 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-polytechnique-memorial-2017-1.4432979)), reminded me of this significant development in my awareness of my femininity.  The massacre happened when 14 women were murdered at a university in Montreal specifically because they were women and they were pursuing a higher education.  I saw the news reports at the time and I remember it well.

At the time, I was horrified, as I thought any right-minded person would be.  But when I tried to talk about my feelings of horror, I was told, in no uncertain terms, that, because the victims were targeted because they were women, as "a man", I could not possibly comprehend the feeling. 

I learned to keep my mouth shut about my feelings on the subject.  I didn't believe I felt the horror any less than women did, and I resented not being allowed to talk about it.  But clearly, my reaction was not typical, and I found myself wondering about that along with everything else over the years.

Now, of course, I have a different perspective.  I don't believe that those who silenced me were right that only women could feel the horror.  Yet perhaps I did feel it more intensely than men did.  Because, now, in hindsight, I realize that I was one of them.

I agree that with my different perspective I do relate more to women's issues, but the only increase is to the extent that being transgender has put me into a social class that have all the injustices the cis-women have always faced along with the fury of religious conservatives.  That has heightened my awareness of the world of injustices.  Though in the states, there is an awakening of sexual harassment done to women and many men are standing up in defense of women more than ever.  So empathy is in the heart of the beholder.  When it hits at home, I imagine you pay attention.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 23, 2017, 06:21:30 PM
We were going to go to the support group's Christmas party today, but the forecast of freezing rain put an end to that plan.  It didn't materialize as it turned out, but not a chance you want to take with an hour and a half drive each way on a bad highway.

Instead, we went to a birthday/Christmas party for a good frind of ours. 

C. used to co-own our favourite second-hand clothing store, and she still works there part-time.  She was one of the first people in the community that I came out to, back when I was still presenting male.  I knew she was wondering about me, since I showed an unusual interest in women's clothing for a guy, and since my wife would go to the counter with two small tops and two large.  So one day, I just told her that the clothes were for me, and that I was trans.  We have been good friends ever since.

C's party was an informal drop-in affair.  We didn't know anyone else there, but it didn't matter: they were all nice people.  I hung out with a bunch of other women and enjoyed chatting with them about this and that, discovering that we knew people in common, etc. 

I used to find such events uncomfortable.  Too much fake-smiling and being bored out of my mind.  This time, not having to hang out with the men, I was much more relaxed and actually enjoyed myself.  I am sure there will be some gossiping about me when people get home: "Do you think that woman in the purple sweater was transgender?"  So what?  Let 'em talk.  No one was nasty or even impolite to me.  I felt like I was included as one of the women.

I sure love being me!

In an unrelated event earlier today, we were at the farmer's market and ran into one of my wife's childhood friends.  They are in touch occasionally by email, but my wife doesn't think she has talked to him since I came out.  She introduced me to the friend and his wife as "my wife Kathy".  :)  I got the impression that they were a little startled, though they didn't show it.  I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they get home: "Wasn't she married to a guy?"

Actually, I am sure most people clock me, especially after I open my mouth, but people here are uniformly polite.  I hope some of them actually do wonder.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 24, 2017, 05:40:25 PM
I just got my brother's annual end-of-year letter, describing all the highlights of his year.  Among them, visiting his "sister Kathy".  OMG, that makes me all goose-bumpy when I read that!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 24, 2017, 06:00:51 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 24, 2017, 05:40:25 PM
I just got my brother's annual end-of-year letter, describing all the highlights of his year.  Among them, visiting his "sister Kathy".  OMG, that makes me all goose-bumpy when I read that!

How wonderful, Kathy!! Your brother is awesome!

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Megan. on December 25, 2017, 02:08:21 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 24, 2017, 05:40:25 PM
I just got my brother's annual end-of-year letter, describing all the highlights of his year.  Among them, visiting his "sister Kathy".  OMG, that makes me all goose-bumpy when I read that!
He must know how lucky he is to have such an awesome sister. X

Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 25, 2017, 06:32:58 AM
Merry Christmas to all my friends, sisters and brothers, on Susan's!  This is my first Christmas as me, Kathleen Lauren Walker.   ;D

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4644/39233613292_9fec0711b5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22LWwmu)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 25, 2017, 07:06:38 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 25, 2017, 06:32:58 AM
Merry Christmas to all my friends, sisters and brothers, on Susan's!  This is my first Christmas as me, Kathleen Lauren Walker.   ;D

Happy First Christmas, Kathleen Lauren Walker! We're all so glad you're here! And Merry Christmas to your wonderful wife, too!

Some day I will come see you and look through the eyepiece on your scope to see such things as your picture with my own eye. I still remember the first time I saw Saturn's rings for real. What a sense of awe.

Almost the sense of awe knowing that I will finally experience my first Christmas as me: Stephanie Rhapsody Bensinger.

PS: I just saw your reply to my similar post in my own thread. I suspect there will be many such posts today. Merry, indeed!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 25, 2017, 05:30:39 PM
Merry Christmas Kathleen Lauren Walker.

I hope this is the first of many happy times to come. Also, my best wishes to your wife. She sounds totally awesome!

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 25, 2017, 06:15:22 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on December 25, 2017, 05:30:39 PMAlso, my best wishes to your wife. She sounds totally awesome!
That she is!  Every day, I remind myself how lucky I am to be married to her.  And then I remind her how lucky I am to be married to her.

I rejoice every time I read about someone whose spouse is supportive.  It is such a huge thing.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 26, 2017, 02:43:49 PM
I have mentioned this in another thread, but it rightfully belongs here.  Especially since I was griping back in post #46 about my lack of boob growth.

The boob fairy must have listened because I got a nice growth spurt for Christmas.   ;D  Dolly Parton doesn't have to worry about a rival just yet, but maybe soon, I will fit a AA!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 26, 2017, 02:56:42 PM
There's a boob fairy? How do I contact her?

What a nice present for you.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 26, 2017, 03:20:34 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on December 26, 2017, 02:56:42 PM
There's a boob fairy? How do I contact her?
Apparently by griping in a thread here on Susan's!   :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 26, 2017, 03:22:14 PM
I better do some more griping then. Lol
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 26, 2017, 04:01:27 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 26, 2017, 03:20:34 PM
Apparently by griping in a thread here on Susan's!   :D

OK.

I want my booooobs!!!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 26, 2017, 04:11:24 PM
Do you think if we start a new thread called "I want my booooobs" and all join in together, the boob fairy will hear us?

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 26, 2017, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on December 26, 2017, 04:11:24 PM
Do you think if we start a new thread called "I want my booooobs" and all join in together, the boob fairy will hear us?

Jayne

You know, at Springsteen concerts I always assumed they were yelling "Bruuuuuce!" What if they were all yelling "booooooobs?"


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 30, 2017, 06:52:37 PM
Just checking in because it's been a few days, not because anything is happening.  Things get quiet anyway between Christmas and New Year, but this year, the weather is making it even quieter.  It got cold and blizzardy on Christmas Day.  The wind died down after a couple of days, but now the snow has been falling for several days.  Not heavy snow, but non-stop, so it builds up.  My excitement today was getting the snowblower out and blowing out the driveway.  Whee!

I started my first six-month prescription of HRT last week.  I guess that means my doc thinks my levels are stable enough.

I have a therapist appointment next week.  I might not make it due to weather if the snow keeps up.  It's an hour and a half each way.  She already told me we can do it by phone or other technology.  This one is for my first GRS letter.  :D  I haven't heard yet from the shrink who is supposed to write my second letter.  :(  The referral is in, so I guess I'll hear from him eventually.

I have been hanging out here on Susan's a lot over the holiday break.  I think a few times I have been able to help people.  I like that.

That's it, another action-packed few days!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: HappyMoni on December 30, 2017, 07:12:51 PM
Did someone say boobs? I sensed a disturbance in the force and it led me here. Oh, Kathy, I was reminiscing after seeing a post of yours today. The first time I talked to you was back when you were terrified to come out to your wife. It is so nice to see how she supports you now. You have come so far, well we both have, haven't we.  It is so good to see. Hugs, Girl! Oh yeah, Happy New Year!
Moni
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 30, 2017, 07:30:04 PM
Hi Kathy,

   What no dog sled or snowmobile to get to those appointments?  I thought they were standard government issue for all Canadians. Going after letters already? Is this something new or did I miss a few posts. More than likely it's my sometimers disease kicking up again. I see that woman Margie? no not Margie. Oh yeah, Moany was here reminiscing with you and trying to take another swipe at me by saying you two have come so far. Yeah I know it's true, it points out how stuck I am. Even my pill pusher (psychiatric practical nurse) illustrated on her white board that I was stuck last time I saw her. That Moany just likes to rub it in. Well I tell you she'll be sorry when I see her again. You mark my words!
  Hey I hope you get dug out out the snow soon.

Luvs ya,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 30, 2017, 08:07:10 PM
Quote from: HappyMoni on December 30, 2017, 07:12:51 PM
Did someone say boobs? I sensed a disturbance in the force and it led me here. Oh, Kathy, I was reminiscing after seeing a post of yours today. The first time I talked to you was back when you were terrified to come out to your wife. It is so nice to see how she supports you now. You have come so far, well we both have, haven't we.  It is so good to see. Hugs, Girl! Oh yeah, Happy New Year!
Moni
I guess that was close on two years ago now, Moni.  Yes, we have come a long way.  In my case, thanks to your encouragement.  Yes, nice indeed!  :D  Hugs back atcha, and Happy New Year!

Quote from: Laurie on December 30, 2017, 07:30:04 PM
Hi Kathy,

   What no dog sled or snowmobile to get to those appointments?  I thought they were standard government issue for all Canadians. Going after letters already? Is this something new or did I miss a few posts. More than likely it's my sometimers disease kicking up again. I see that woman Margie? no not Margie. Oh yeah, Moany was here reminiscing with you and trying to take another swipe at by say you two have come so far. Yeah I know it's true, it points out how stuck I am. Even my pill pusher (psychiatric practical nurse) illustrated on her white board that I was stuck last time I saw her. That Moany just likes to rub it in. Well I tell you she'll be sorry when I see her again. You mark my words!
  Hey I hope you get dug out out the snow soon.

Luvs ya,
  Laurie
Stuck?  Heck, I'm the one who's snowed in.  Don't worry, I'll get out my jumper cables and we'll have you moving in a jiffy.

I actually keep a set of snowshoes near the front door in case I wake up to deep snow and have to walk to the barn to get the snowblower.  And today I was thinking of getting the cross-country skis out.  Back in the day, I was a pretty fair long-distance skier, but the farthest I ever did in one day was 55km.  I'm not sure I'm up to skiing into the city.

As long as the Internet doesn't go out, we'll be fine.

Yup, going for my letters.  It will likely be more than a year before I can get a surgery date, but I have to start somewhere.  Actually I have to start right here, so that's what I'm doing.  I always was on a fast track, because I know I've used up at least 2/3 of my life.  No time to waste.  The only variable about GRS was whether I really wanted it.  Yes, I do, I've decided, so here I go.  I have decided which surgery I want (cosmetic), and the "system" has decided my surgeon for me (Brassard), so now it's just jumping through hoops.

You'd better start working on your passport, because I expect your next road trip to include Nova Scotia.

Happy New Year, Laurie!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: HappyMoni on December 30, 2017, 09:04:15 PM
Kathy, tell 'that woman' to get off her high horse, get in her truck and come see both of us. You supply the snow. I think I can still ski.
Moni
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cindy on December 31, 2017, 01:04:05 AM
Cindy's ears picked up at the mention of the boob fairy wondering where she had gone. Then she reads about snow and decides that's enough horror story.
Looking at a map and seeing that Canada is at the bottom bit of the world. Wow do people live that far away.....
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on December 31, 2017, 09:54:29 AM
Thanks for your thread!  I've been hesitant t pick up new threads, yours had so much fun and optimism it was a joy.

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 31, 2017, 10:02:07 AM
So it's the last day of 2017.  What a ride this year has been!  :o ;D  Wow!!

Yep, a year-end summary!   ::)  TL:DR: It was (almost) all good!

It started out with a doctor's appointment for my first HRT prescription.  I started my first dose of E and S on Jan 20th.  I felt the first effects within a week, and could see significant effects within a couple of months.

I immediately started planning how I was going to come out in my community.  There was never any doubt that I wanted a full transition.  I gave myself a time line of late April, and started to work towards that.  I am an analyst at heart (worked in IT), so I worked out who would gossip to whom, and what order I needed to tell people in order to manage the flow of information.

In the process of doing that, I realized that, back in the fall of 2016, I had agreed to do a public astronomy talk in July.  With an April transition in the works, and knowing that publicity material would soon be published for the event, I realized that I needed to come out to the event organizers ASAP.  I contacted the person who recruited me, explained what was going on, and offered to step aside if that's what the committee wanted.  He assured me that there would be no issue, and that it was my brain they wanted, not other parts.  I gave him a statement to read to the organizing committee, along with a request to keep my transition confidential until the publicity was published.

My contact gave me a heads-up a week before the event publicity went to press, so I circulated an email to the organization's email distribution list coming out to the entire membership.  It was my first public coming-out, and I was nervous about the possible responses.  I was amazed at the response.  I received a huge number of replies, and every single one of them was supportive and encouraging!  My first real WOW moment!

I still had some jitters about coming out to my neighbours, people I see frequently in real life.  We live in a really rural area: lots of farmers, fishermen and hillbillies.  I was worried.  I scheduled a session with my therapist to talk about my jitters.  But, because of a winter storm, I went into the city the day before and stayed overnight.  That gave me an evening and a morning to kill before my appointment, and that time was a turning point for me.

Once I had checked into my hotel, I changed into Kathy mode.  I spent the evening with some of my support group friends at a comedy club, just being out and having a good time.  The next morning, I wandered around the downtown area, window-shopping, talking to clerks and baristas.  It was awesome!  It was my first time totally unchained and free as myself, and I loved it!  By the time of my afternoon appointment, my jitters were cured.  My therapist and I went through the motions, and she offered my more appointments to talk some more about it.  But when I got home, I realized that I didn't need them.  More appointments would have pushed back my target coming-out date, and I had such a surge of self-confidence that I knew there was no way in heck I was going to do that.

I came out April 20th, and, again, it went better than I expected.  Some of my neighbours had tears in their eyes when I told them about myself, and I got lots of hugs.  A few didn't quite know what to make of it, but no one has been negative at all.  Some who were noncommittal at first have since come around.  I have been full-time ever since then.

I came out to a couple of other groups by mass email, and again, I got a lot of supportive responses, and none negative.

In July, my astronomy talk went really well.  I was able to keep my voice in my desired range, and to talk fluently about my subject.  The event itself was a camp-out for astronomers.  My talk was aimed at beginners, and I got a lot of feedback from both beginners and experienced members that they got a lot out of it.  Absolutely no one had an issue with who I was.  The washrooms at the campground were open to other campers, of course, not just the astronomy nerds, but I had no issues from anyone.  From which, I conclude that my presentation must be acceptable.

Also, in July, my name change paperwork went through, and I officially became Kathleen Lauren Walker.  Unfortunately, I couldn't do my gender change at the same time, due to my British birth certificate, so my ID looks a little odd: feminine name, but a great big M.  :(  The only negative of the year.

This fall, I started therapy aimed at getting my referral letters for GRS.  And my doctor is finally happy with my lab results, so my prescription is now stable for the next six months.

All year, starting in January, I have been continuing electrolysis on my face.  I knew, based on my pain response in other areas, that my upper and lower lip areas would really hurt, so I asked my dentist if she would freeze them.  She was not only happy to do so, but she did it for free!  Another WOW moment!  So glad I did that, because my first clearing of those areas went super smoothly and painlessly.

This fall, my older brother drove across the country, coast to coast, ostensibly to see the country, but really to visit me.  We had a great visit and talked about some personal stuff.  I love hearing him refer to me as his sister!

So here I am, at the end of the year, and, for the first time in my life, I am truly myself.  I found self-confidence that I didn't know I had.  My wife continues to be my biggest supporter and my best friend.  My friends and neighbours have all been wonderful.  It has been the best year of my life.

And all through it, you all, my friends here on Susan's have been here to encourage me and to listen to my babbling.  You are the best!

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on December 31, 2017, 10:09:25 AM
OMG, a Boob Fairy?  How exciting.  Will have to get some pixie dust and hope it attracts to me come Wednesday :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on December 31, 2017, 12:55:34 PM
Kathy, congratulations on an awesome year! It has been a joy to watch as you have grown so much, thank you for sharing your journey with us......so with such a tale for 2017, what are the plans for 2018?

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on December 31, 2017, 01:10:30 PM
Hi Kathy,

I remember all of that except for you starting HRT on Jan 20, 2017. I may have been distracted by a small matter of joining Susan's about that time because I need a little support  in order to confess my DIY hrt to my GP. That mean I am 5 weeks ahead of you one that one thing. For all the others though I enjoyed sharing your progress and admired you for taking each step. You were and are one of those that I followed and gave me inspiration to come out myself.
You have had a wonderful year and I am sure the next will be just as good for you.
  Have a Happy Near year, Kathy

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 31, 2017, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 31, 2017, 10:02:07 AM
... It has been the best year of my life.

And all through it, you all, my friends here on Susan's have been here to encourage me and to listen to my babbling.  You are the best!

Happy New Year!
Happy New Year to you and your wife Kathy. Here's to 2018 being an even better year for you.

Yours is one of the threads I follow without missing a single post. Your story fills me with hope. Thank you for sharing and a great big thank you and hug to your wife for being such an awesome person.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 31, 2017, 02:06:37 PM
Thank you, everyone who has commented and wished me well.  :)

Quote from: Laurie on December 31, 2017, 01:10:30 PM
You have had a wonderful year and I am sure the next will be just as good for you.

Laurie, I am sure you will have a good year in 2018, too.  You might have to get out and help us push, but we'll have you out of the ditch and on your way in no time.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 31, 2017, 03:33:52 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 31, 2017, 10:02:07 AM
So it's the last day of 2017.  What a ride this year has been!  :o ;D  Wow!!

Yep, a year-end summary!   ::)  TL:DR: It was (almost) all good!

It started out with a doctor's appointment for my first HRT prescription.  I started my first dose of E and S on Jan 20th.  I felt the first effects within a week, and could see significant effects within a couple of months.

I immediately started planning how I was going to come out in my community.  There was never any doubt that I wanted a full transition.  I gave myself a time line of late April, and started to work towards that.  I am an analyst at heart (worked in IT), so I worked out who would gossip to whom, and what order I needed to tell people in order to manage the flow of information.

In the process of doing that, I realized that, back in the fall of 2016, I had agreed to do a public astronomy talk in July.  With an April transition in the works, and knowing that publicity material would soon be published for the event, I realized that I needed to come out to the event organizers ASAP.  I contacted the person who recruited me, explained what was going on, and offered to step aside if that's what the committee wanted.  He assured me that there would be no issue, and that it was my brain they wanted, not other parts.  I gave him a statement to read to the organizing committee, along with a request to keep my transition confidential until the publicity was published.

My contact gave me a heads-up a week before the event publicity went to press, so I circulated an email to the organization's email distribution list coming out to the entire membership.  It was my first public coming-out, and I was nervous about the possible responses.  I was amazed at the response.  I received a huge number of replies, and every single one of them was supportive and encouraging!  My first real WOW moment!

I still had some jitters about coming out to my neighbours, people I see frequently in real life.  We live in a really rural area: lots of farmers, fishermen and hillbillies.  I was worried.  I scheduled a session with my therapist to talk about my jitters.  But, because of a winter storm, I went into the city the day before and stayed overnight.  That gave me an evening and a morning to kill before my appointment, and that time was a turning point for me.

Once I had checked into my hotel, I changed into Kathy mode.  I spent the evening with some of my support group friends at a comedy club, just being out and having a good time.  The next morning, I wandered around the downtown area, window-shopping, talking to clerks and baristas.  It was awesome!  It was my first time totally unchained and free as myself, and I loved it!  By the time of my afternoon appointment, my jitters were cured.  My therapist and I went through the motions, and she offered my more appointments to talk some more about it.  But when I got home, I realized that I didn't need them.  More appointments would have pushed back my target coming-out date, and I had such a surge of self-confidence that I knew there was no way in heck I was going to do that.

I came out April 20th, and, again, it went better than I expected.  Some of my neighbours had tears in their eyes when I told them about myself, and I got lots of hugs.  A few didn't quite know what to make of it, but no one has been negative at all.  Some who were noncommittal at first have since come around.  I have been full-time ever since then.

I came out to a couple of other groups by mass email, and again, I got a lot of supportive responses, and none negative.

In July, my astronomy talk went really well.  I was able to keep my voice in my desired range, and to talk fluently about my subject.  The event itself was a camp-out for astronomers.  My talk was aimed at beginners, and I got a lot of feedback from both beginners and experienced members that they got a lot out of it.  Absolutely no one had an issue with who I was.  The washrooms at the campground were open to other campers, of course, not just the astronomy nerds, but I had no issues from anyone.  From which, I conclude that my presentation must be acceptable.

Also, in July, my name change paperwork went through, and I officially became Kathleen Lauren Walker.  Unfortunately, I couldn't do my gender change at the same time, due to my British birth certificate, so my ID looks a little odd: feminine name, but a great big M.  :(  The only negative of the year.

This fall, I started therapy aimed at getting my referral letters for GRS.  And my doctor is finally happy with my lab results, so my prescription is now stable for the next six months.

All year, starting in January, I have been continuing electrolysis on my face.  I knew, based on my pain response in other areas, that my upper and lower lip areas would really hurt, so I asked my dentist if she would freeze them.  She was not only happy to do so, but she did it for free!  Another WOW moment!  So glad I did that, because my first clearing of those areas went super smoothly and painlessly.

This fall, my older brother drove across the country, coast to coast, ostensibly to see the country, but really to visit me.  We had a great visit and talked about some personal stuff.  I love hearing him refer to me as his sister!

So here I am, at the end of the year, and, for the first time in my life, I am truly myself.  I found self-confidence that I didn't know I had.  My wife continues to be my biggest supporter and my best friend.  My friends and neighbours have all been wonderful.  It has been the best year of my life.

And all through it, you all, my friends here on Susan's have been here to encourage me and to listen to my babbling.  You are the best!

Happy New Year!

Once again, Kathy, you find the words to describe the parallel lives we seem to be leading. All my best wishes for a great New Year. See you on the other side...


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 31, 2017, 04:59:07 PM
Here's an up-to-date photo of me.  (I'm the taller one.)  I'm in totally shapeless dog-walking clothes, but I actually look not bad in them.  (!)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4589/39415962611_1fac032823_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23447sg)P1130608-1000px (https://flic.kr/p/23447sg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 03, 2018, 02:39:32 PM
I went to see my therapist in the city.  She's going to be writing my first surgery letter in the near future, probably tomorrow.   :icon_biggrin:  :icon_joy:

I probably have to wait a year to get in to see a shrink for my second letter, but I'm not even going to think about that.

We had a big rush on to get ready for the storm that's coming tomorrow.  They are calling it a "weather bomb", and it's hitting dead centre where we live tomorrow.  The wood box in the house is full (a two-day supply), the generator is parked in the woodshed, within reach of the external connection on the house.  I picked up extra flashlight batteries on my way home today.  We have the Coleman stove in the house for power-off cooking.  I think we are ready.  I just hope the Internet stays on.  ;)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on January 03, 2018, 02:58:25 PM
cuddle up for warmth Kathy, I know I will. It's like 57F here right now ... brrr ... ;D

Seriously though, I grew up in cold weather lands. Nothing to be lazy about. I'll keep you warm in my thoughts until, hmm, May?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 03:36:08 PM
A weather bomb? That sounds serious! I have never heard of that before.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 03:51:16 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 03, 2018, 02:39:32 PM
I went to see my therapist in the city.  She's going to be writing my first surgery letter in the near future, probably tomorrow.   :icon_biggrin:  :icon_joy:

I probably have to wait a year to get in to see a shrink for my second letter, but I'm not even going to think about that.

We had a big rush on to get ready for the storm that's coming tomorrow.  They are calling it a "weather bomb", and it's hitting dead centre where we live tomorrow.  The wood box in the house is full (a two-day supply), the generator is parked in the woodshed, within reach of the external connection on the house.  I picked up extra flashlight batteries on my way home today.  We have the Coleman stove in the house for power-off cooking.  I think we are ready.  I just hope the Internet stays on.  ;)

When Kendra was here we were discussing silly things, and came up with the idea of a hand-cranked internet router. I mean, what's the most important thing to have when you're snowed in?

Be safe, Kathy, and take care of yourself, your spouse, your dog, and your observatory, in that order. I want to see all of them in good shape when we come to visit!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 03:53:21 PM
Quote from: Faith on January 03, 2018, 02:58:25 PM
cuddle up for warmth Kathy, I know I will. It's like 57F here right now ... brrr ... ;D

Oh, you southern Florida wimps! If you want to see cold, come visit here. It's 51F and dropping!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 03:54:41 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 03:36:08 PM
A weather bomb? That sounds serious! I have never heard of that before.

Sounds like something KAOS would have used in Get Smart!

Sorry about that, Chief.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 04:01:40 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 03:54:41 PM
Sounds like something KAOS would have used in Get Smart!

Sorry about that, Chief.


- Stephanie
I must have been in the cone of silence and missed that episode.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 04:01:40 PM
I must have been in the cone of silence and missed that episode.

WHAT?!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on January 03, 2018, 04:10:42 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 04:01:40 PM
I must have been in the cone of silence and missed that episode.

Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 04:05:18 PM
WHAT?!
- Stephanie

WHAT?!

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 03, 2018, 04:30:56 PM
LOL!!  You girls are hilarious!  You could take your show on the road.

Steph, I love the hand-cranked router idea!  That would sell.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 03, 2018, 04:30:56 PM
LOL!!  You girls are hilarious!  You could take your show on the road.

Steph, I love the hand-cranked router idea!  That would sell.

We could be the opening act for Free Beer!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on January 03, 2018, 04:57:11 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 04:52:25 PM
We could be the opening act for Free Beer!

a short act in your case. Reach for the stars .. "I can't!" ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 05:00:45 PM
Quote from: Faith on January 03, 2018, 04:57:11 PM
a short act in your case. Reach for the stars .. "I can't!" ;D

Throwing ice cubes from on top of the fridge.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on January 03, 2018, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 05:00:45 PM
Throwing ice cubes from on top of the fridge.

missed me by this |-| much
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 05:14:42 PM
Quote from: Faith on January 03, 2018, 05:02:10 PM
missed me by this |-| much
Hey! You stole my thunder. I was going to use that line!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 05:16:27 PM
Steph, why are you still on top of the fridge? Hey Laurie! You left Steph on the fridge. Will you please get her down from there!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 05:28:02 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 05:16:27 PM
Steph, why are you still on top of the fridge? Hey Laurie! You left Steph on the fridge. Will you please get her down from there!

Yeah! All I had to eat were ice cubes, and I threw them all at Faith.

I'll be good! 🤞🏻 <snicker>

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 05:29:20 PM
Quote from: Faith on January 03, 2018, 04:57:11 PM
a short act in your case. Reach for the stars .. "I can't!" ;D

I am standing up!

Statuesque Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 03, 2018, 05:35:44 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 05:16:27 PM
Steph, why are you still on top of the fridge? Hey Laurie! You left Steph on the fridge. Will you please get her down from there!

Jayne,

  She may just have to wait until I get better and decide to make that postponed Florida road trip. Besides she looks so cute up there. Sue will probably get her a ladder after she stops laughing.

  Kathy,

     Look on the bright side, You with have plenty of material after the storm to  build igloos for Stephanie to stay in if she ever gets off the fridge and visits you. Stay safe.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 05:38:50 PM
We seem to have hi jacked Kathy's thread with our foolishness. I seem to remember similar mischievous behaviour on my thread not too long ago.

Who's thread shall we hijack next? Faith, Laurie..... No, we should hijack Steph's thread. She is stuck on the fridge and won't be able to do anything about it. [emoji83]
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on January 03, 2018, 05:16:27 PM
Steph, why are you still on top of the fridge? Hey Laurie! You left Steph on the fridge. Will you please get her down from there!

I figure the problem will solve itself soon. It's so cold here that the snow will soon build up high enough that I'll be able to sled down.

And I'll bring my hatchet with me.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on January 03, 2018, 06:21:13 PM
Quote... She may just have to wait until I get better and decide to make that postponed Florida road trip. Besides she looks so cute up there. Sue will probably get her a ladder after she stops laughing...

Put some stuffed animals up there, she'll blend right in. Oh, and um, some dolls. Because, although she may be short, she doesn't really look like an animal.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 06:33:24 PM
Quote from: Faith on January 03, 2018, 06:21:13 PM
Put some stuffed animals up there, she'll blend right in. Oh, and um, some dolls. Because, although she may be short, she doesn't really look like an animal.

You girls are so cute. I will hunt you down if I can fight my way through all these dolls and stuffed animals, and get Sue to bring me a ladder. I wish she'd stop laughing.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 03, 2018, 06:34:54 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 06:33:24 PM
You girls are so cute. I will hunt you down if I can fight my way through all these dolls and stuffed animals, and get Sue to bring me a ladder. I wish she'd stop laughing.

Stephanie

  Just leave the hockey mask at home.... It's a dead giveaway.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 06:40:05 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 03, 2018, 06:34:54 PM
  Just leave the hockey mask at home.... It's a dead giveaway.

They don't make them small enough.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on January 03, 2018, 06:44:55 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 03, 2018, 06:40:05 PM
They don't make them small enough.
- Stephanie

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GOAL!!

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 05, 2018, 08:26:28 AM
Well, we survived the storm. 

It was pretty intense, but not as bad as the forecasts.  My peak wind gust measured about 43 km/h.  Since my wind gauge is sheltered, the actual wind speed was likely 2 or 3 times that.  It certainly had that freight train roar that you get when the wind is over about 80 km/h.  For the weather nerds, my lowest pressure was 95.4 kPa.  That's pretty close to the centre of the storm, because the official minimum pressure is showing as 95.2 on the maps this morning.

The power stayed on the whole time.  We are lucky in that, because about 1/3 of the province lost theirs.  I am really pleased with the preventative power of my generator.  Since I bought it, three years ago, we haven't had a single power failure!

Now we just have to deal with the cold.  It got above freezing during the storm, so a lot of the snow melted down to slush.  Which is now freezing as the temperature drops.  Our driveway is like a hockey rink.

TL;DR: All OK.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 05, 2018, 08:37:10 AM
Happy all is ok!

Your generator seems to be working really well in preventing power losses!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 05, 2018, 09:31:11 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 05, 2018, 08:26:28 AMI am really pleased with the preventative power of my generator.  Since I bought it, three years ago, we haven't had a single power failure!

Power Prophylactic!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 08, 2018, 03:37:54 PM
Making progress on the transition front.  I have a draft version of my first surgery letter!   ;D  There's a change I might want to her make, so I'll sleep on it before confirming with my therapist, but, YAY, I have it!!!!

The second letter is going to take a while, but one out of two ain't bad.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 08, 2018, 03:49:04 PM
Yay! Congratulations Kathy.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 12, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
I had lunch today with a bunch of ladies.  There's a new Thai restaurant that opened a couple of towns down the valley.  It's the real thing: the proprietor is from Thailand.  So my wife and I, her friend N, and N's friends C and S drove down to check it out.  The food was great, and so was the conversation.

It was so nice to be accepted as a woman by other women.

N has followed my transition all along, but the last time I saw C and S I was presenting male and wearing a tuxedo.  As we were saying good bye after lunch, S said "You've changed a bit."  That might go down in the books as the understatement of the year.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 12, 2018, 02:24:33 PM
 It sounds to me like you had another very nice day.  Understatement is right.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 12, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Yeah, Kathy! That's so cool. I'm beginning to find what that's like. It's such a comfortable thing.

Changed a bit? Ya think? [emoji1]


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on January 12, 2018, 03:53:44 PM
Hi Kathy,

I have received such joy following your journey, thank you for continuing to share it.

S said "You've changed a bit."  I can't think of a sweeter way for a friend to say that she accepts and loves you!

"The food was great, and so was the conversation"; in my opinion, sitting and conversing with a group of women is one of the finer things about transition. I can't remember anything in the guy's world that comes anywhere close.

Keep it going girlfriend!
Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 12, 2018, 04:31:15 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 12, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
I had lunch today with a bunch of ladies.  There's a new Thai restaurant that opened a couple of towns down the valley.  It's the real thing: the proprietor is from Thailand.  So my wife and I, her friend N, and N's friends C and S drove down to check it out.  The food was great, and so was the conversation.

It was so nice to be accepted as a woman by other women.

N has followed my transition all along, but the last time I saw C and S I was presenting male and wearing a tuxedo.  As we were saying good bye after lunch, S said "You've changed a bit."  That might go down in the books as the understatement of the year.

Just don't let X, Y & Z know you had a gathering without inviting them and A, L, & S :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 12, 2018, 05:01:16 PM
Quote from: Cali on January 12, 2018, 04:31:15 PM
Just don't let X, Y & Z know you had a gathering without inviting them and A, L, & S :)
Today's report has been brought to you by the letter K.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 12, 2018, 05:25:38 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 12, 2018, 05:01:16 PM
Today's report has been brought to you by the letter K.

:)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 13, 2018, 02:33:55 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 12, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
It was so nice to be accepted as a woman by other women.
That is something I have yet to experience. It's great that you are being accepted this way. It must have felt very affirming.

Last time we were visiting NS, my wife, her sister, sister-in-law and I drove into the city to do some shopping. (I was the designated driver). Although I present male and nobody other than my wife knew about me, it felt really nice spending a day out with the girls.

I love Thai food. I have applied for some time off work over this coming Christmas/New Year. If it is approved, my wife and I are planning to head over to NS to visit her family. We should arrange to meet for a meal, Thai sounds good. [emoji39]

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 16, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
I just got home from my weekly electrolysis session.  For the past few weeks, the Marquise de Sade my electrologist has been working on my neck.  The hairs there are thick and bristly, and require an extra heavy-duty zap.  <Not allowed>, it hurts!  The EMLA cream I was using (2.5% lidocaine, 2.5% something else) wasn't cutting it, so I managed to find some Xylocaine (5% lidocaine).  It is marginally better. 

I was listening to a CD on my headphones and trying hard to keep my mind on the music and not on the pain, praying for the end of the CD to tell me that the session was drawing to an end.  The disc ended and I re-started it for the last few minutes.  The song was a real tear-jerker, and I was concentrating on the lyrics.  Between that and the pain, the Marquise figured that the session was over when she saw the tears streaming down my face.

You know what?  Crying actually helps with pain management!   :'(

The poor lady felt terrible that she was inflicting that much pain.  I tried to tell her that it wasn't just the pain.  The music contributed at least 25%.

Tune in again same time next week.  :-\
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 16, 2018, 04:37:59 PM
Ouch! Some face zapping sessions are worse than others. I try to zone out and almost end up in a meditative state. I have even been known to fall asleep during a session, but there are some areas that no amount of zoning out or numbing cream can ease the pain. Upper lip near the nose cones to mind. That area causes the tears to just start flowing. I try taking my mind to a happy place, but the fire stick in my face keeps me focused on the pain. It's a necessary evil.

I feel your pain Kathy.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on January 17, 2018, 07:44:55 AM
OMG, I have been there.  I have laughter defense mechanism, so when I giggle a little my electrocutionist knows it hurts.  Of course when we go beyond that is the problem.  My Dr prescribed me numbing cream that is 6% lidocain among other stuff.  It takes just enough edge off I don't cry.  A mental exercise of mine is thinking about the absurdity of what we are doing.  Also, another thought is when you are done that day, will be a long rest until the next time.  Hang in there!

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 17, 2018, 08:44:52 AM
Two laser sessions ago Brandi had to scrape me off the ceiling when she was done. My internal systems had experienced an ID 10T error. I hadn't had much water in the last 24 hours, and I drank a cup of heavily caffeinated tea on the 1:15 trip to her office. Plus I hadn't given the numbing cream enough time to work. [emoji33]

This last time I attached a fire hose to the input port, avoided all caffeine like the plague, and gave the cream over an hour spin up to full RPM. For most of the session I didn't feel a thing. Yes, there were a few spots on my neck, corners of the mouth, under the nose, that had me squeezing the life out of the foam thingy she gives me. I wish I understood how to "zone out" or whatever "mindfulness" is.

And I am terrified of hair removal at the "south pole." I'll do it if necessary, of course, but I'm afraid it may be permanently mentally scarring. Yes, I'm a wimp.

Got to keep my eyes on the prize...


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 17, 2018, 09:43:11 AM
I think I managed to avoid all the ID 10T errors.  I almost had a Nanaimo bar (a uniquely Canadian dessert that contains a lot of chocolate) at lunch, but caught myself in time.  Fluid level topped up, cream on face an hour + ahead of time, well covered with cling wrap.  But I can't imagine ever not feeling it.  The only time I didn't feel it was when I got the dentist to numb my upper and lower lips.  The best I can do is to take the edge off the pain.

I am pretty good at mindfulness, and when the numbing works well and she's only using the 'stun' setting on her phaser, I can actually get into a head space where the shocks are happening in another room.  Yesterday, she was able to clear quite a bit that way.  But towards the end of the session she was using the 'kill' setting on a few stubborn hairs, and the cream had been wiped off for an hour.

I think I might see my doctor for a prescription for something stronger.  I've got the strongest over-the-counter cream I can get, and it ain't working.

As I told my electrocutioner yesterday as I wiped my eyes, "Yeah, but it's got to be done."

I can't actually imagine doing the 'south pole'.  Fortunately, Brassard doesn't require it, and the cosmetic procedure I want doesn't need it.  Whew!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on January 17, 2018, 11:20:30 AM
I have to honestly say that the work on the "South Pole" was nowhere near as uncomfortable as doing the upper or lower lip.  No, really.

I used the EMLA cream and plastic wrap tricks down there, several small sheets of plastic in overlapping bands so my electrolyst could uncover one area and leave the cream in place on others.  That helped.

We also talked and had music playing while working on the South Pole.  That helps enormously as a distraction.

Clearing down there was done in several sessions, seperated by about 3 weeks once the initial clearing was done, to allow for the normal hair growth cycle.  Time to clear was down to about 30 minutes at the last session, mostly hunting for tiny, whispy hairs.

The electrolyst was able to use a shorter probe and lower current for the last sessions, with nothing but tiny new hairs to zap.  That was much more comfortable.  (The same is true for my face clearings, BTW)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 20, 2018, 05:52:06 AM
Today is a milestone in my journey: one year on HRT!  (Hear that, boobs?   Time to get growing.)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 20, 2018, 11:30:26 AM
Wow, a busy couple of days, and lots of posts to catch up on.  I'm doing lights and sound for a stage play that my wife is in.  Wednesday night's rehearsal was cancelled due to heavy snow, so we had it Thursday night.  Then yesterday, I had to drive 5 hours (2.5 each way) to go pick up a kitty that we are adopring.  My wife is very particular about what kind of kitty she would adopt: a neutered adult orange tabby boy.  Hence the long drive when one was available.  Fortunately, the roads were good.  The rest of the day was spent making sure the new cat and our existing animals (a greyhound and a tabby girl cat) were introduced safely.  Then this morning, we had another rehearsal.

All of which explains the one-liner post above.

Now that things have slowed down a bit, I can walk the dog, bring in firewood, and try to figure out where the @#$% mice are getting into the pantry.  No, neither cat is a mouser. :(

This real-life stuff keeps me busy!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on January 20, 2018, 01:42:19 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 20, 2018, 05:52:06 AM
Today is a milestone in my journey: one year on HRT!  (Hear that, boobs?   Time to get growing.)

I'm going to start talking to mine, see if that helps too:)  if not, we can always do BA.  I don't think I'd ever do anything bigger than a C anyway, you?

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 20, 2018, 02:26:13 PM
Congratulations on your one year HRT anniversary. It must be nice settling in doing simple every day normal life stuff.

I hope the cats and dog all get along well together.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 20, 2018, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: Bari Jo on January 20, 2018, 01:42:19 PMI don't think I'd ever do anything bigger than a C anyway, you?
I'd be happy with a B.  Heck, who am I kidding?  I'd even be happy with an A!  (C'mon, girls, you can do it!)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 20, 2018, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on January 20, 2018, 02:26:13 PM
Congratulations on your one year HRT anniversary. It must be nice settling in dong simple every day normal life stuff.

I hope the cats and dog all get along well together.

Jayne
Really Jayne? What kind of simple?

Quote from: KathyLauren on January 20, 2018, 11:30:26 AM
Wow, a busy couple of days, and lots of posts to catch up on.  I'm doing lights and sound for a stage play that my wife is in.  Wednesday night's rehearsal was cancelled due to heavy snow, so we had it Thursday night.  Then yesterday, I had to drive 5 hours (2.5 each way) to go pick up a kitty that we are adopring.  My wife is very particular about what kind of kitty she would adopt: a neutered adult orange tabby boy.  Hence the long drive when one was available.  Fortunately, the roads were good.  The rest of the day was spent making sure the new cat and our existing animals (a greyhound and a tabby girl cat) were introduced safely.  Then this morning, we had another rehearsal.

All of which explains the one-liner post above.

Now that things have slowed down a bit, I can walk the dog, bring in firewood, and try to figure out where the @#$% mice are getting into the pantry.  No, neither cat is a mouser. :(

This real-life stuff keeps me busy!

  Mice huh? I actually saw where mine were exiting from hiding and put 2 traps there. I got 10 of the little suckers and then nothing for 2 weeks so I put the traps away.
  Congrats on the year Kathy. I keep forgetting you are a couple months behind me in HRT but I know you are way ahead in most of the rest and still pulling away. Keep it up and I'll have to get that dang passport.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 20, 2018, 03:14:58 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 20, 2018, 02:58:40 PM
Really Jayne? What kind of simple?
Simple as in everyday, nothing to do with being trans kind of stuff. ie, new cat, chasing mice, social events, etc.

Well, waiting for the boobs to grow is trans related. Maybe we can start a cheer squad.
Give me a "B", give me an "O", give me ..........

What's does it spell?
boooOOOOBS!!!!!

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 20, 2018, 10:27:43 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on January 20, 2018, 03:14:58 PM
Simple as in everyday, nothing to do with being trans kind of stuff. ie, new cat, chasing mice, social events, etc.

Well, waiting for the boobs to grow is trans related. Maybe we can start a cheer squad.
Give me a "B", give me an "O", give me ..........

What's does it spell?
boooOOOOBS!!!!!

Jayne
I think you need to reread your simple post.

Sent from my LGL44VL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 20, 2018, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 20, 2018, 10:27:43 PM
I think you need to reread your simple post.

Sent from my LGL44VL using Tapatalk
Are you messing with me, Laurie? I'm confused, are you talking about the typo? I wrote "dong" instead of "doing". I don't understand, I'm just a simple girl hanging upside down on the bottom side of the world.

Jayne [emoji15]
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 20, 2018, 10:53:54 PM
Never mind Jayne I guess it's different upside down.  I corrected the typo for you.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 21, 2018, 06:15:30 AM
Quote from: Laurie on January 20, 2018, 10:53:54 PM
Never mind Jayne I guess it's different upside down.  I corrected the typo for you.

Hugs,
  Laurie

Start a new band; the Boobie Brothers with their new hits; "It Takes Two", "Bounce Together", "Popping Out"........
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 23, 2018, 08:21:50 AM
Yesterday, my wife and I went to the local town's Women's March.  (Yes, they held it a couple of days later than everywhere else.)  It was advertised as trans-inclusive, so I wasn't worried about TERFs, and I didn't encounter any.  There were about 200 marchers, a respectable turnout for this small town.  At least 90% of them were university students.

It was kind of low-key.  We listened to speeches, marched a few blocks, listened to more speeches, marched again, and listened some more.  It was cold, and got colder as the sun started setting, so we left before the last speech.  We didn't really interact with anyone else: there was no one we knew, and few people remotely close to our age.  Still, it was good to feel a part of something larger, and to feel like I belonged there.

It's harder to look feminine when you are all bundled up.  Wearing a hat is always a problem for me because of my wig.  But since I knew we'd be outdoors and I wouldn't have to remove it, I wore a cute tuque over my own hair, which curls out at the back enough to make a very feminine appearance.  I don't wear makeup much these days, but I did put a bit of foundation over my beard shadow.  (Electrolysis tomorrow.)  And I wore lipstick, of course.  To be honest, I don't think anyone noticed me at all.  If they did, it was probably "What's that old broad doing with all us university students?"
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 23, 2018, 03:29:31 PM
  Good for you and your wife getting out and being a part of something. I'm glad it was voluntary unlike my being shanghaied for the Astoria pride parade by Tessa. But for some reason you just can't tell take lady no. Anyway I'm glad to see you putting yourself out there.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on January 23, 2018, 03:47:29 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 23, 2018, 08:21:50 AM
Yesterday, my wife and I went to the local town's Women's March.  (Yes, they held it a couple of days later than everywhere else.)  It was advertised as trans-inclusive, so I wasn't worried about TERFs, and I didn't encounter any.  There were about 200 marchers, a respectable turnout for this small town.  At least 90% of them were university students.

It was kind of low-key.  We listened to speeches, marched a few blocks, listened to more speeches, marched again, and listened some more.  It was cold, and got colder as the sun started setting, so we left before the last speech.  We didn't really interact with anyone else: there was no one we knew, and few people remotely close to our age.  Still, it was good to feel a part of something larger, and to feel like I belonged there.

It's harder to look feminine when you are all bundled up.  Wearing a hat is always a problem for me because of my wig.  But since I knew we'd be outdoors and I wouldn't have to remove it, I wore a cute tuque over my own hair, which curls out at the back enough to make a very feminine appearance.  I don't wear makeup much these days, but I did put a bit of foundation over my beard shadow.  (Electrolysis tomorrow.)  And I wore lipstick, of course.  To be honest, I don't think anyone noticed me at all.  If they did, it was probably "What's that old broad doing with all us university students?"

It's great you and your wife attended the march.  It's so important now to stand up against the way women have been treated forever.  My wife unfortunately had broken her ankle a few days before the one in Oakland. So I was her nurse as we supported with our hearts instead of our feet.

Hugs, Jess 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 23, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Here's a pic of the rally at the end of the march.  I am the tall woman in the red hat and blue jacket just right of centre, closest to the camera.  That's my wife to my right in the pink hat.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4768/24992159957_9a4db40ceb_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 23, 2018, 06:05:11 PM
Dang it looks frozen there. And you want me to come visit?????

Hugs,
  Laurie

P.S. Do you want to build a snowman?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 23, 2018, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 23, 2018, 06:05:11 PM
Dang it looks frozen there. And you want me to come visit?????

Hugs,
  Laurie

P.S. Do you want to build a snowman?
A snow woman, if you please.

And why wouldn't you visit?  It's called the Great White North for a reason, you know.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 23, 2018, 09:06:22 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 23, 2018, 06:51:31 PM
A snow woman, if you please.

And why wouldn't you visit?  It's called the Great White North for a reason, you know.

Isnt there a Great White Shark or Whale?  Are you holding them hostage?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 24, 2018, 06:29:38 AM
Quote from: Cassi on January 23, 2018, 09:06:22 PM
Isnt there a Great White Shark or Whale?  Are you holding them hostage?
Great white shark.  Yes, we have them here.  There was one spotted last year just 15 km across the bay from here.  Fortunately, the water is too cold to swim in.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 24, 2018, 11:31:42 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 24, 2018, 06:29:38 AM
Great white shark.  Yes, we have them here.  There was one spotted last year just 15 km across the bay from here.  Fortunately, the water is too cold to swim in.

Well, have someone catch it and send it to Julia to cook.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 25, 2018, 07:22:34 PM
While I am grateful that my T level is down where it should be, and I'll gladly put up with the dehydration and frequent bathroom breaks to keep it there, I am noticing one consequence of low T: fatigue.  In the evenings, I am just wiped!

We've been watching a mystery series on Netflix.  I find that I can't sit and watch it without falling asleep.  My wife will say something like, "Well, do you think the teacher did it?", and I'll be like, "Teacher?  There was a teacher?"  Or I'll be reading and realize that I've read the page five times and still have no idea what's on it.

A side benefit: I am sleeping much better than I used to.  I used to have frequent insomnia, having trouble falling asleep, or waking up and being unable to get back to sleep.  Not any more.  Now, I am asleep in minutes.  I wake up typically twice in the night to pee, then I go right back to sleep.

So, some good, some bad.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 26, 2018, 06:39:19 AM
My wife (who is slender in all respects - this is relevant) and I had this conversation last night:

Wife: That bra I got today fits perfectly.
Me: Must be nice!
Wife: I'm easy to fit.  That's one advantage of being flat-chested.
Me: No it isn't.  Trust me on this!

OK, it's not going to bring the house down with laughter, but we had fun with it.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 26, 2018, 03:08:06 PM
My wife and I went shopping today.  Mostly groceries and such mundane stuff, but we did include a stop at the local bra shop.  I am actually an official size now: 38A.  Woo-hoo!  (Yay, way to go, girls!)  Came home with a couple of "proper" bras now, so I don't have to wear the sports bras I have been using up until now unless I am exercising.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 26, 2018, 06:47:22 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 26, 2018, 03:08:06 PM
My wife and I went shopping today.  Mostly groceries and such mundane stuff, but we did include a stop at the local bra shop.  I am actually an official size now: 38A.  Woo-hoo!  (Yay, way to go, girls!)  Came home with a couple of "proper" bras now, so I don't have to wear the sports bras I have been using up until now unless I am exercising.

Keep that up and we'll have to change your name to Va Va Va Voom.....
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 26, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 26, 2018, 03:08:06 PM
My wife and I went shopping today.  Mostly groceries and such mundane stuff, but we did include a stop at the local bra shop.  I am actually an official size now: 38A.  Woo-hoo!  (Yay, way to go, girls!)  Came home with a couple of "proper" bras now, so I don't have to wear the sports bras I have been using up until now unless I am exercising.

  YAY!! Kathy. I think we know just how much you have longed to be able to say that. and it's nice to hear the boob fairy is alive still.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 26, 2018, 10:42:12 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 26, 2018, 03:08:06 PM
My wife and I went shopping today.  Mostly groceries and such mundane stuff, but we did include a stop at the local bra shop.  I am actually an official size now: 38A.  Woo-hoo!  (Yay, way to go, girls!)  Came home with a couple of "proper" bras now, so I don't have to wear the sports bras I have been using up until now unless I am exercising.
Wooohooo! That's boobilitious!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 29, 2018, 07:48:03 PM
My posts recently have become boring.  Don't argue: they have.  It suddenly occurred to me why.  It's because I am not actively transitioning now.

I don't mean that I've put my transition on hold or anything.  I am not done yet, not by a long shot, and I intend to move forward with it as fast as I possibly can.  It's just that there's no real transitioning I can do at this moment.  I am wait-listed for seeing someone for my second surgery letter.  My birth certificate is in bureaucratic limbo for another year and a half.  My electrolysis continues, as does my HRT.  Steady as she goes.  Nothing to see here, folks.

So this is my first peek at the rest of my life.  Meeting friends for lunch.  Going grocery shopping.  Going to the theatre.  Taking the car in for servicing.  Getting used to myself just being me, rather than transitioning.

I'm kind of digging it!   ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 29, 2018, 10:00:59 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 29, 2018, 07:48:03 PM
My posts recently have become boring.  Don't argue: they have.  It suddenly occurred to me why.  It's because I am not actively transitioning now.

I don't mean that I've put my transition on hold or anything.  I am not done yet, not by a long shot, and I intend to move forward with it as fast as I possibly can.  It's just that there's no real transitioning I can do at this moment.  I am wait-listed for seeing someone for my second surgery letter.  My birth certificate is in bureaucratic limbo for another year and a half.  My electrolysis continues, as does my HRT.  Steady as she goes.  Nothing to see here, folks.

So this is my first peek at the rest of my life.  Meeting friends for lunch.  Going grocery shopping.  Going to the theatre.  Taking the car in for servicing.  Getting used to myself just being me, rather than transitioning.

I'm kind of digging it!   ;D

Glad to hear!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JulieOnHerWay on January 29, 2018, 10:13:45 PM
Boring begat blending thus begat being   We all seek being.  Just being the total boring everyday woman.
This is a good thing.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 29, 2018, 10:25:52 PM
Quote from: JulieOnHerWay on January 29, 2018, 10:13:45 PM
Boring begat blending thus begat being   We all seek being.  Just being the total boring everyday woman.
This is a good thing.

The New Testament of Julie - Book of Beginnings!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 30, 2018, 01:23:28 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 29, 2018, 07:48:03 PM

So this is my first peek at the rest of my life.  Meeting friends for lunch.  Going grocery shopping.  Going to the theatre.  Taking the car in for servicing.  Getting used to myself just being me, rather than transitioning.

I'm kind of digging it!   ;D

  It beats my solution for the lull in my transition. I hope you never go there. Be happy with life "as usual" it's still good.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 30, 2018, 07:35:12 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 29, 2018, 07:48:03 PM
So this is my first peek at the rest of my life.  Meeting friends for lunch.  Going grocery shopping.  Going to the theatre.  Taking the car in for servicing.  Getting used to myself just being me, rather than transitioning.

I'm kind of digging it!   ;D

I had originally posted something annoyingly self-centered here, and realized my mistake and moved it to my own thread.

What I should have said was, YES! That's so cool that you're finally able to start truly living life the way you've always needed to. My girlfriend Cassie is getting to that point, too, and I'm so happy to see my friends grow and just start being.

Life as it should be...

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 30, 2018, 08:07:32 AM
Hi, Steph.  I read your original post, and I didn't find it annoying or self-centred.  It was relevant to my post, and it was interesting.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on January 30, 2018, 09:54:33 AM
Kathy I love your post.  Truly it's being able to do the normal things as a normal lady that is the most exciting.  Don't be afraid to post the mundane there are those of us that look forward to that and long for it.

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on January 30, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
Kathy, life stories are never boring.  It brings the reader to your world.  What you may consider boring can be an affirmation of their own situation in life. 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on January 30, 2018, 11:42:59 AM
Quote from: Jessica on January 30, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
Kathy, life stories are never boring.  It brings the reader to your world.  What you may consider boring can be an affirmation of their own situation in life.

Couldn't have said it better!
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on January 31, 2018, 03:30:47 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 29, 2018, 07:48:03 PM
My posts recently have become boring.  Don't argue: they have.  It suddenly occurred to me why.  It's because I am not actively transitioning now.

I don't mean that I've put my transition on hold or anything.  I am not done yet, not by a long shot, and I intend to move forward with it as fast as I possibly can.  It's just that there's no real transitioning I can do at this moment.  I am wait-listed for seeing someone for my second surgery letter.  My birth certificate is in bureaucratic limbo for another year and a half.  My electrolysis continues, as does my HRT.  Steady as she goes.  Nothing to see here, folks.

So this is my first peek at the rest of my life.  Meeting friends for lunch.  Going grocery shopping.  Going to the theatre.  Taking the car in for servicing.  Getting used to myself just being me, rather than transitioning.
Hi Kathy, just catching up. I don't think your posts are getting boring. Living a normal everyday kind of life is what most of us here are aiming for. Reading stories such as yours, give people like me, who are not as far along in transition, hope that there actually is light at the end of the tunnel. Waking up in the morning and making it through a day just being "me", without thinking about trans stuff is what I want. I'm not there yet. Reading what you and others write, helps keep me focussed on the bigger picture. It gets me through the harder days. So please, keep making " boring" posts.

Quote
I'm kind of digging it!   [emoji1]
That is so awesome! That one line put a smile on my face. Thank you and congratulations!

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on February 02, 2018, 06:45:03 AM
Kathy!!  I live for boring. Day-to-day boring normalcy means you've made it. I can't wait for the days that I realize that I am just living my life rather than wishing for it.

I used your words, there is nothing boring about living your life the way you want to and sharing it with those who care and you care about.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 02, 2018, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Faith on February 02, 2018, 06:45:03 AM
Kathy!!  I live for boring. Day-to-day boring normalcy means you've made it. I can't wait for the days that I realize that I am just living my life rather than wishing for it.

I used your words, there is nothing boring about living your life the way you want to and sharing it with those who care and you care about.
You are right, Faith.  I do enjoy the everyday normalcy of my life.  It doesn't make for good blogging, though.   ;)

May your life soon be as boring as mine.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 02, 2018, 04:52:10 PM
I discovered something interesting today about electrolysis.  The folks who recommend avoiding caffeine are right.

Last week, I only drank half my normal cup of tea at breakfast, and it made a significant difference to the pain level.  This morning, we ate out for breakfast and I almost had coffee, but I remembered in time.  So I had no coffee, no tea, just a glass of OJ and a glass of water.  (The folks who say to stay hydrated are right, too.)

Wow, what a difference!  The area of my neck with the most lidocaine cream on it was actually numb, as in zero pain, for most of the session.  That never happens.  And she didn't turn the phaser down to 'stun' the entire session.  The areas with less cream hurt, but not badly at all, and I was able to zone out and enjoy the music in my headphones for most of the time.

We get up before 7:00 am, and my appointment was at 3:00 pm, so even with an eight-hour gap, no caffeine in the morning makes a difference.

So, young'uns, when they say no caffeine before electrolysis, take it seriously.  That means no coffee, tea, chocolate, soft drinks, anything caffeine-related, at all for at least eight hours before the session.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on February 02, 2018, 05:31:38 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 02, 2018, 04:52:10 PMSo, young'uns, when they say no caffeine before electrolysis, take it seriously.  That means no coffee, tea, chocolate, soft drinks, anything caffeine-related, at all for at least eight hours before the session.

And yet, on Wednesday I did everything right, and she still had to scrape me off the ceiling. I did exactly the same that I'd done with the previous session, which had been a breeze. This time we'd decided it would be the last session before we switch to the hot needle torture, and though she didn't say so, I think she set phasers on kill to clean up the last that it could. This was the first time it left marks. It looked like the Alien face-hugger had shown me some love. There was even one spot that was swollen for a day.

But y'all listen to your Aunts Kathy and Stephanie: lots of water, good sleep, no caffeine, 800mg ibuprofen 45 minutes before the procedure, and whatever numbing cream you use far enough beforehand so it has time to get working.

Then grit your teeth and take it. And spill your secrets without worry. We haven't told you anything that can compromise the operation.

"K" and "S"
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 02, 2018, 05:43:09 PM
As they say, YMMV.  Yes, I've had a few sessions where she had to scrape me off the ceiling. 

By any chance was she working on your upper lip area, Steph?  Because that area is the absolute worst.  I am on good terms with my dentist and I get her to freeze it when the electrocutioner is going to be working there.  There's nothing else that's legal that can handle it.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on February 02, 2018, 06:20:38 PM
Hi Kathy,

  I just don't know about folks that have to find things out for themselves the hard way. Glad you finally got the message. And yes you are right  above the upper lip does hurt and the closer to the nose the worse it gets. Christina has elicited a tear or two from me there and I've had about 8 or 9 hours there so far and more to go. It does hurt but I haven't had to have a block yet.

QuoteThis time we'd decided it would be the last session before we switch to the hot needle torture

  I suspect the above from Shorty down in the southeast is saying she's been getting laser and is starting real fun next time. She can correct me if I'm wrong.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on February 03, 2018, 10:49:59 AM
NO CHOCOLATE?!?!??! ARE YOU NUTS!!!!!!!

Sounds like the phasers have attacked some brain cells. How can you say such a thing?

Did I say that out loud? Oops!

Do I have chocolate all over my face?

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 03, 2018, 11:17:40 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on February 03, 2018, 10:49:59 AM
NO CHOCOLATE?!?!??! ARE YOU NUTS!!!!!!!

Sounds like the phasers have attacked some brain cells. How can you say such a thing?

Did I say that out loud? Oops!

Do I have chocolate all over my face?

Jayne
*Sigh*  I know.  Avoiding chocolate in order to feel better sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it?  But, trust me on this, it is necessary.  However, chocolate afterwards, as a reward for enduring the suffering, makes total sense!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on February 03, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 03, 2018, 11:17:40 AM
*Sigh*  I know.  Avoiding chocolate in order to feel better sounds like an oxymoron, doesn't it?  But, trust me on this, it is necessary.  However, chocolate afterwards, as a reward for enduring the suffering, makes total sense!
Now your talking.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on February 03, 2018, 11:57:05 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on February 03, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
Now your talking.

Chocolate, did someone say chocolate?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 06, 2018, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 02, 2018, 04:52:10 PM
Last week, I only drank half my normal cup of tea at breakfast, and it made a significant difference to the pain level.  This morning, we ate out for breakfast and I almost had coffee, but I remembered in time.  So I had no coffee, no tea, just a glass of OJ and a glass of water.  (The folks who say to stay hydrated are right, too.)

Quote from: KathyLauren on February 02, 2018, 05:43:09 PM
Yes, I've had a few sessions where she had to scrape me off the ceiling.

Well, today, I did everything right: no tea or coffee (even though I slept poorly and really wanted some), plenty of water, lots of lidocaine, applied in plenty of time, covered perfectly.  And yet it was still a "scrape me off the ceiling" session!

It seems that I have more trouble getting my left side numb than the right side.  Last week, she did the right side and it was great.  The week before, it was the left side again, and I ended the session in tears.

I wonder if anyone else has noticed that one side is ouchier than the other?  It seems pretty weird to me.

Next week, it will be the upper lip.  Ahh, relief!  I have booked an appointment with my dentist to get shot up beforehand.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on February 06, 2018, 05:41:11 PM
Kathy, I have noticed that my right side gives me more pain than my left (but not always). I also noticed and my electrocutioners agree that hair removal or hair regrowth is different from side to side. For me, my right side is clearing more completely than my left. The electrocutioners say that one side is usually different but it is not consistent from one client to another.

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on February 06, 2018, 05:42:37 PM
  If you aren't doing it already rub the numbing cream in for a first coating then do another and a final layer without.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: HappyMoni on February 06, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
Kathy,
   I truly think some days are just more painful then others. It might be bio-rhymes or something. I usually have my shoes off and when I have pain I rub my feet together and concentrate on that. You can only think about one thing at one time. Give yourself another focus and it will help. I go in two weekends for hopefully my last face clearing. I can go a week without shaving and no one notices. It's been a long road. You'll get there.
Moni
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 06, 2018, 07:10:37 PM
Quote from: Anne Blake on February 06, 2018, 05:41:11 PM
Kathy, I have noticed that my right side gives me more pain than my left (but not always). I also noticed and my electrocutioners agree that hair removal or hair regrowth is different from side to side. For me, my right side is clearing more completely than my left. The electrocutioners say that one side is usually different but it is not consistent from one client to another.
Thanks, Tia Anne!  It makes sense that each side has its own nerves that might respond differently.  It's good to know that that is a thing.

Quote from: Laurie on February 06, 2018, 05:42:37 PM
  If you aren't doing it already rub the numbing cream in for a first coating then do another and a final layer without.
I've been doing that.  In fact, I did two coats rubbed in, and then trowelled on a top coat.  Obviously I need to do it more on that side.

Quote from: HappyMoni on February 06, 2018, 06:56:49 PMIt might be bio-rhymes or something. I usually have my shoes off and when I have pain I rub my feet together and concentrate on that. You can only think about one thing at one time. Give yourself another focus and it will help.
Yes, it could be just timing.  I am actually pretty good at mindfulness meditation, and I always have some music in the headphones.  On a good day, I can totally escape from the room and just listen to the music while (it seems like) someone else gets zapped in the next room.  But when I get zapped up onto the ceiling, well, you're right, there's only one thing I can think of, and that's it!

Congrats on being almost done.  *Envy!*
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on February 06, 2018, 07:12:04 PM
A long road indeed and I think you are right Mawwaunie. Some days are just more intense.

Congrats one you final clear.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on February 06, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
Hi, Kathy!  Like Anne Blake, I have differences side-to-side.  The right cheek is more sensitive than the left for me, although both have 'hot spots' that are very sensitive.  There's some nerve damage on the left cheek that leaves some areas quite insensitive (leftovers from Mohs cancer surgeries).

Skin sensitivity varies quite a bit in different areas, and even over a few millimeters.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on February 07, 2018, 12:49:16 PM
My tolerance varies from visit to visit. Sometimes I can do the mindfulness think well and can get by without any numbing cream. Other times it instantly causes a massive leakage in my eye plumbing. Different areas have varying sensitivity also. It depends how stubborn the hair follicle is. Some parts of my neck have these thick, curved hairs which make it difficult to get the probe inserted, I can certainly feel those when they get zapped.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 07, 2018, 08:10:58 PM
Quote from: Michelle_P on February 06, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
Skin sensitivity varies quite a bit in different areas, and even over a few millimeters.
Yes, I was finding this yesterday.  She'd find a spot that didn't make me wince and would go to work on it.  After a few minutes, during which I would start to relax, she'd move out of that area and the next zap would make me levitate off the table.  You actually jump higher if you are relaxed, I found out.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on February 08, 2018, 01:55:03 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 07, 2018, 08:10:58 PM
Yes, I was finding this yesterday.  She'd find a spot that didn't make me wince and would go to work on it.  After a few minutes, during which I would start to relax, she'd move out of that area and the next zap would make me levitate off the table.  You actually jump higher if you are relaxed, I found out.

That's where I found the 'mindful meditation' to be helpful.  It lets one release that pain, let it flow past and stay relaxed, rather than tense in anticipation of the next poke, which makes it worse.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 08, 2018, 03:01:04 PM
A local trans friend of mine (more of a FB friend, though I have met her a few times IRL) just had "the talk" with her wife.  She wants to dress at home and to go out as herself without having to be sneaky.  I think, eventually, she wants to transition.  The talk didn't go well: the wife is having none of it.

We see this happening so often here on the forum, too.  It makes me so sad.  I cry tears of joy every time I read about a spouse who is willing to stick by their partner while they transition, because I cry tears of sadness when it goes the other way.

To all the supportive spouses out there, and that includes those who aren't quite sure but are willing to give it a go, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.  I am so incredibly lucky that my wife supports me in my transition, and I remind her of that every single day.

I don't know what lies in my friend's future, and neither does she.  Whatever it is, it will be painful.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on February 08, 2018, 03:07:18 PM
That's so sad. All she wants is to be herself. Those of use with accepting wife's are so lucky. I couldn't imagine losing my life and doing this alone.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: AutumnGurl81 on February 08, 2018, 09:44:08 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 08, 2018, 03:01:04 PM
A local trans friend of mine (more of a FB friend, though I have met her a few times IRL) just had "the talk" with her wife.  She wants to dress at home and to go out as herself without having to be sneaky.  I think, eventually, she wants to transition.  The talk didn't go well: the wife is having none of it.

We see this happening so often here on the forum, too.  It makes me so sad.  I cry tears of joy every time I read about a spouse who is willing to stick by their partner while they transition, because I cry tears of sadness when it goes the other way.

To all the supportive spouses out there, and that includes those who aren't quite sure but are willing to give it a go, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.  I am so incredibly lucky that my wife supports me in my transition, and I remind her of that every single day.

I don't know what lies in my friend's future, and neither does she.  Whatever it is, it will be painful.

This is sooo hard...I totally feel the tearyness as well, I can say I'm lucky enough to have a supportive wife, soon to be ex, but finding out that the person you've loved (and still do) doesn't want to be a part of your authentic life experience is extremely disheartening. I wish her strength and all the best during her journey.

I read from the bottom btw, and had a good chuckle at your post about laser Kathy!  :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 09, 2018, 04:45:21 PM
Another ouchy experience today: eyebrow waxing.  :o  The things we do to look beautiful!  Still, it does make me look a lot more feminine.

I get mine done at the local beauty school.  They take real customers so the students have victims people to practise on.  They actually do a good job.  There is always an instructor in the room, and they do as good a job as the commercial salon I've been to.

I tell myself that I can pluck them myself, using the shape from the waxing job as a guide.  But the re-growing hairs seem to appear from nowhere overnight.  I look one day, and my brows are slim, with  no new hairs.  Two days later, it seems they are back to standard male-issue brows with no distinction between old hair and new.  So, for $12 every couple of months, waxing makes sense.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on February 09, 2018, 07:15:13 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 09, 2018, 04:45:21 PM
Another ouchy experience today: eyebrow waxing.  :o  The things we do to look beautiful!  Still, it does make me look a lot more feminine.

I get mine done at the local beauty school.  They take real customers so the students have victims people to practise on.  They actually do a good job.  There is always an instructor in the room, and they do as good a job as the commercial salon I've been to.

I tell myself that I can pluck them myself, using the shape from the waxing job as a guide.  But the re-growing hairs seem to appear from nowhere overnight.  I look one day, and my brows are slim, with  no new hairs.  Two days later, it seems they are back to standard male-issue brows with no distinction between old hair and new.  So, for $12 every couple of months, waxing makes sense.

I'll have to keep an eye on my brows.  I got the courage to go to a "Brows Are Us" place and had my brows threaded.  That was quite an experience.  Hard to explain the sensation other than it felt like small electrical shots and buzzing at the same time. 

They look okay, would have preferred them be a little lighter and not as thick at the beginning but we'll see.

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on February 09, 2018, 08:43:53 PM
My electrocutioner is making good progress on my eye brows. She trims some each month or so and they are taking shape well. The pain is not bad and the added time is minimal. Plus I haven't plucked in over six months.

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on February 09, 2018, 09:49:39 PM
Quote from: Anne Blake on February 09, 2018, 08:43:53 PM
My electrocutioner is making good progress on my eye brows. She trims some each month or so and they are taking shape well. The pain is not bad and the added time is minimal. Plus I haven't plucked in over six months.

Tia Anne

What no Pain??????
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on February 09, 2018, 11:55:29 PM
Yes, there is pain, it is electrolysis after all, just not that bad if taken a bit each time.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on February 10, 2018, 09:39:52 PM
I'm with Kathy, I'll get my brows waxed or threaded every couple months.  It's so inexpensive and pain is for about ten minutes and that's it!

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 13, 2018, 09:16:01 AM
Aargh!  I was shaving this morning (  >:( ) and suddenly realized that I had forgotten the last two days to leave a patch for the electrocutioner to work on today.  It is so hard to remember NOT to do something!

So I had to call both her and the dentist (we were supposed to do upper lip today) and reschedule.  :(

I hate acting like an old person!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on February 13, 2018, 09:44:28 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 13, 2018, 09:16:01 AM
Aargh!  I was shaving this morning (  >:( ) and suddenly realized that I had forgotten the last two days to leave a patch for the electrocutioner to work on today.  It is so hard to remember NOT to do something!

So I had to call both her and the dentist (we were supposed to do upper lip today) and reschedule.  :(

I hate acting like an old person!

Well, at least you don't look like one! ❤️


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 13, 2018, 10:04:49 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on February 13, 2018, 09:44:28 AM
Well, at least you don't look like one! ❤️


- Stephanie
Aw, thanks.  You're sweet!  ❤️
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on February 13, 2018, 10:14:47 AM
Hmmmm Kathy,

  Perhaps you have somehow caught a foreign strain of my sometimers virus. I have a devil of a time with it. You can ask Michelle as she con confirm it with first hand observation.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on February 13, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
Brain farts suck!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 14, 2018, 07:34:19 AM
While I certainly feel like a woman, and I am beginning to look more like a woman, I clearly have some work to do to think like a woman...

On an aviation page that I follow, the discussion lately was on high-altitude training for military pilots, and the physical demands of that environment on the body.  A female participant, obviously not a pilot herself, posted: "did the study show how long the effects lasted...also what about the effects after years of flying at high altitude? Is this why fighter pilots flying career is a young man's game?"  I explained to her that this was regular training, not a "study" and that the effects we were talking about were short-term.  I totally missed the "young man's game" part, until a later (male) poster said, "being a fighter pilot is a young (wo)man's game because they're only immortal for a limited time."

I'm kicking myself for missing that, because I have considered myself a women's libber from a long time back.  The only consolation is that the person who posted it in the first place was a woman, too.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on February 14, 2018, 07:42:27 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 14, 2018, 07:34:19 AM
While I certainly feel like a woman, and I am beginning to look more like a woman, I clearly have some work to do to think like a woman...

On an aviation page that I follow, the discussion lately was on high-altitude training for military pilots, and the physical demands of that environment on the body.  A female participant, obviously not a pilot herself, posted: "did the study show how long the effects lasted...also what about the effects after years of flying at high altitude? Is this why fighter pilots flying career is a young man's game?"  I explained to her that this was regular training, not a "study" and that the effects we were talking about were short-term.  I totally missed the "young man's game" part, until a later (male) poster said, "being a fighter pilot is a young (wo)man's game because they're only immortal for a limited time."

I'm kicking myself for missing that, because I have considered myself a women's libber from a long time back.  The only consolation is that the person who posted it in the first place was a woman, too.

I think the "Immortality" is common among all military personnel when we young, lol.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 15, 2018, 03:46:24 PM
I got my hair cut today.  I wear a wig or a hat any time I am out in public.  But my own hair needs to be cut in order to fit under the wig, so I had to take the wig off in the salon.  A little bit dysphoric.

I go to the beauty school to get it done, so the hairdressers are all students.  I must say, the one who did my hair today took my obviously masculine features, particularly the MPB, in stride.  I'm probably the first transgender client she has had.  So I figure I'm doing a bit of activism/outreach/education by going there.  Also, it's cheap.

In spite of the dysphoria of having to take my wig off in public, I couldn't help smiling as I admired my reflection in the mirror for half an hour.  Without the wig, I don't look like a guy.  I look like a woman with really unfortunate alopecia.  It's the lips a bit, but mostly it's the eyes.  Whatever E has done to them, (I still can't identify exactly what has changed), they look totally feminine.  And I have the cutest smile lines radiating from them.

She did a nice job of cutting my hair.  It is good and short, for tucking under the wig, but she left enough curls at the back that I can wear a ball cap for dog walking and such, and still look good.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on February 15, 2018, 11:05:31 PM
Kathy, I know what you mean.  Occasionally you are amazed that small features are looking feminine.  I still am 100% gendered male, but sometimes I see Bari Jo in there, and those moments however brief are becoming more common.

I'm so happy for you Kathy.  It's a bummer that a wig is needed, but you are taking that with grace.

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 16, 2018, 06:34:29 PM
For some reason, I have a mental block against saying "I am  woman".  I think I am afraid of running into TERFs or male rednecks who would challenge that statement.

So today, I was introducing myself on a community Facebook page to someone I had met for the first time in person a week ago.  I wanted to identify myself so she'd associate the name with the face.  At first, I typed, "I was the person walking the greyhound."  But just before I clicked the Post button, I decided that that was the chicken's way of doing it.  So I corrected it to read " I was the woman walking the greyhound."

I guess I am still exorcising demons.  But I am getting there, even though it is baby steps.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on February 16, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
Could it be just a matter of breaking a long-standing habit of avoiding gender references altogether? I know I always deliberately used gender-neutral pronouns when talking about my past. It was, "when I was a kid," or, "I'm the one on the left," or, as you almost did, "I'm the person in blue."

Maybe it's just hard to use any gendered pronoun after so many years of actively avoiding it.

Having someone to practice with is extremely helpful. While I'm not sure it's a conscious thing, Cassie and I are reinforcing the idea all the time for each other. Saying and hearing things like, "you go, girl!" or, "you're looking great today, woman!" really helps you get used to the idea so it's easier to use for yourself.

Whatever the reason, I'm proud of you for doing it right this time! Now that you've broken the ice, it'll be easier going forward.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on February 16, 2018, 07:31:07 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 16, 2018, 06:34:29 PM
For some reason, I have a mental block against saying "I am  woman".  I think I am afraid of running into TERFs or male rednecks who would challenge that statement.

So today, I was introducing myself on a community Facebook page to someone I had met for the first time in person a week ago.  I wanted to identify myself so she'd associate the name with the face.  At first, I typed, "I was the person walking the greyhound."  But just before I clicked the Post button, I decided that that was the chicken's way of doing it.  So I corrected it to read " I was the woman walking the greyhound."

I guess I am still exorcising demons.  But I am getting there, even though it is baby steps.

Hi Kathy, I would expect that many of us have that same mental block of asserting our true/new selves in voice. Kudos to you for changing your post and more of them for telling the story. I recognize that I will be stronger when I begin voicing that I AM a woman. I have been out full time for over a year and am post surgery yet reluctant to be vocal. Thank you for showing the way!

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 16, 2018, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on February 16, 2018, 07:06:25 PM
Could it be just a matter of breaking a long-standing habit of avoiding gender references altogether? I know I always deliberately used gender-neutral pronouns when talking about my past. It was, "when I was a kid," or, "I'm the one on the left," or, as you almost did, "I'm the person in blue."

Maybe it's just hard to use any gendered pronoun after so many years of actively avoiding it.
Wow, I hadn't thought of that.  I didn't consciously avoid gendered language all those years, but now that you mention it, that's exactly what I did without thinking about it.  Thanks for the eye-opener, Steph!

Quote from: Anne Blake on February 16, 2018, 07:31:07 PMThank you for showing the way!
What, me?  Blind leading the blind, I think!  I have a long way to go.  I guess we do what we can when we can, as long as we are moving in the right direction.  I learn a lot from you ladies.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 18, 2018, 07:11:14 AM
My wife and I had a lovely social night out with a bunch of trans friends last night.  There were 10 people in total, 6 trans-fem, 1 trans-masc enby, and 3 spouses.  Some of us were full-time and some part-time or non-transitioning. 

Though we often meet other trans folk in support groups or clinical settings, it is very pleasant and normalizing to just relax over a meal and some random conversation.  At least one member of the group has a non-supportive home life.  For her, it was a rare opportunity to get away and be herself.

For those interested in such statistics, four of the seven trans folks were current or former members of the armed forces.

As a fairly strong introvert, I found the size of the group was over my threshold of comfort.  So I was probably the quietest of the bunch.  Still, I had a good time.

We met at Boston Pizza.  The place was pretty full: Saturday night and not a lot of choice among restaurants.  We got a few puzzled looks from other customers, but no one bothered us, and the staff were all nice, with no misgendering.

I am looking forward to getting together again with members of this group, but in smaller gatherings.  It took months to get this group together.  Hopefully, with smaller groups, it will be easier to plan a time and place.

I really recommend getting together with other trans people in social groups.  Too often, our "social" live consists of support groups, which serve a valuable purpose, but are just not the same as a bunch of friends hanging out.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on February 20, 2018, 10:07:24 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 18, 2018, 07:11:14 AM

I really recommend getting together with other trans people in social groups.  Too often, our "social" live consists of support groups, which serve a valuable purpose, but are just not the same as a bunch of friends hanging out.

I'm starting to realize this too.  Interacting in public helps so much.  One of my support groups goes out socially after our meetings.  I look forward to that each week!

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on February 20, 2018, 10:37:12 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 18, 2018, 07:11:14 AM.I really recommend getting together with other trans people in social groups.  Too often, our "social" live consists of support groups, which serve a valuable purpose, but are just not the same as a bunch of friends hanging out.

I never had much luck with group therapy sessions. But the social gatherings were so helpful. They got me out in public and helped me learn about proper presentation. Realizing the roof wasn't going to fall in when I walked into a restaurant or bar was a huge confidence builder. Sitting across the table from someone new and sharing personal stories, hints, and tips, is much more valuable than sitting in a circle and complaining. And you never know who'll you'll meet. Completely by accident I ended up sitting at a picnic table across from someone who has become my bestest friend in the whole world. Cassie and I have adopted each other as sisters. There's nothing like knowing there's another soul going through the same thing, and that you can call them any time when you need help. I am so lucky. And it was all due to those social meetups.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 21, 2018, 06:51:02 AM
I have started back going to the Scottish Country Dancing class.  I outed myself to them back in the summer, and went all fall, as myself.  But I took a break over the holidays, and then got busy with theatre stuff.  So last night was my first time back in quite a while.

While, by preference, I relate to women better than men, dancing is an environment where I have to associate with men, and where they have to interact with me as a woman.  I really enjoy that.

The dancing requires equal numbers of men and women, and since women usually outnumber men at these things, they even up the numbers by having the excess women dance the men's part.  So, a couple of times last night, I was asked to dance as a man. 

Well, I danced on the men's side for a couple of years, before transition, and now I am learning to dance on the women's side.  (Scottish Country Dancing is a bit like contra dancing.)  It's confusing as heck to switch, especially in some of the more complicated figures where you spin around and have to end up facing someone other than your partner.  Fine if you are used to one side being the "right" side and the other side being the "wrong" side.  It is easy to dance one dance on the "wrong" side.  Bit I have now danced both sides as the "right" side.  That's confusing.  I am gradually getting re-oriented, but I still sometimes lose track of where I am supposed to go.

So last night, I declined to dance any men's parts.  I just said, "Sorry, I'm already confused enough!" with a big smile.  It was really the only nod to my transition.

It is a really fun activity that exercises both the body and the mind.  And I find it really affirming to be in a large group where the gender roles are well-defined, and where I am accepted as a woman.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 28, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
I just heard an excellent rumour.  Unfortunately, it's only a rumour at this point, but here's hoping...

Apparently, Nova Scotia is planning to implement some sort of gender recognition that is independent of one's birth certificate.  That means that those of us with birth certificates that are difficult or impossible to change will be able to legally change our gender.  It would be lovely to have that "F" on my driver's license!

The rumour is plausible, because the Human Rights Commission had a consultation last fall on the subject.  I made a submission to them to this effect, and it is likely that several other people in similar positions did.  I had feedback from the report author that she wanted to use my comments in the report, suggesting that they were taking them seriously.

Now if they actually implement it in the next year, it might do me some good.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on February 28, 2018, 10:38:42 PM
Well Kathy  let's hope it does become a reality. That would be nice for you.

Hugs,
   Laurie

P.S. There may be a passport in my future so you foreigners best be nice.

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 01, 2018, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Laurie on February 28, 2018, 10:38:42 PM
Well Kathy  let's hope it does become a reality. That would be nice for you.

Thanks, Laurie.

Quote
P.S. There may be a passport in my future so you foreigners best be nice.

No problem.  That's what we Canucks are famous for.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on March 01, 2018, 11:44:48 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 28, 2018, 07:55:51 PM
Apparently, Nova Scotia is planning to implement some sort of gender recognition that is independent of one's birth certificate.  That means that those of us with birth certificates that are difficult or impossible to change will be able to legally change our gender.  It would be lovely to have that "F" on my driver's license!

I didn't realize you were limited by your birth certificate. It's certainly great to have the correct marker on the drivers license. I hope they enact that rule!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on March 01, 2018, 12:14:00 PM
I'm hoping for the best for you.  I may have all kinds of issues due to name and gender changed in international travel, mainly France.  Yuck, not looking forward to the troubles.

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 01, 2018, 01:12:53 PM
Thanks!  I hope you can get your paperwork hassles sorted out, Bari Jo.

I am pretty much forgetting about the possibility of international travel until I get that resolved.  I don't want to travel on a passport that lists me as male.  (Well, for the nearest destinations there's other reasons too.)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 05, 2018, 07:35:49 PM
Bummer!  I was misgendered at the fire hall tonight.  The trainees were discussing my role in a medical scenario that I had led them though (I had to play the part of the neighbour who called 911).  They kept referring to me as "he".  Finally, I had to interrupt the scenario and point out that all those "he"s should have been "she"s.  ::)  It was a bit odd, because they all get my name right.

Well, mostly they get my name right.  I got my honourarium cheque for 2017 with my dead name on it.  Grrr!  They forgot to change my name on the roster they gave to the accountant!  Grrrrrr!  If the bank won't cash it, I'll have to get them to issue a new cheque.

Oh, well, I can't complain.  Mostly, my transition has been idiot-free.  (Well, okay, I can complain, and I do.  For all the good it does me.  But I shouldn't.)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on March 05, 2018, 11:04:59 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 05, 2018, 07:35:49 PM
Bummer!  I was misgendered at the fire hall tonight.  The trainees were discussing my role in a medical scenario that I had led them though (I had to play the part of the neighbour who called 911).  They kept referring to me as "he".  Finally, I had to interrupt the scenario and point out that all those "he"s should have been "she"s.  ::)  It was a bit odd, because they all get my name right.

Well, mostly they get my name right.  I got my honourarium cheque for 2017 with my dead name on it.  Grrr!  They forgot to change my name on the roster they gave to the accountant!  Grrrrrr!  If the bank won't cash it, I'll have to get them to issue a new cheque.

Oh, well, I can't complain.  Mostly, my transition has been idiot-free.  (Well, okay, I can complain, and I do.  For all the good it does me.  But I shouldn't.)

Aha, you have just coined a new slogan for Nova Scotia; The Land Free Of Idiots!

I can see the tourist related sales escalating now :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on March 05, 2018, 11:15:56 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 05, 2018, 07:35:49 PM
Bummer!  I was misgendered at the fire hall tonight.  The trainees were discussing my role in a medical scenario that I had led them though (I had to play the part of the neighbour who called 911).  They kept referring to me as "he".  Finally, I had to interrupt the scenario and point out that all those "he"s should have been "she"s.  ::)  It was a bit odd, because they all get my name right.

Well, mostly they get my name right.  I got my honourarium cheque for 2017 with my dead name on it.  Grrr!  They forgot to change my name on the roster they gave to the accountant!  Grrrrrr!  If the bank won't cash it, I'll have to get them to issue a new cheque.

Oh, well, I can't complain.  Mostly, my transition has been idiot-free.  (Well, okay, I can complain, and I do.  For all the good it does me.  But I shouldn't.)

Kathy, I'm sorry all that happened. It's lousy that the people closest to us can't seem to make the effort to understand just how much it means to us to be recognized as our true selves.

I was talking to one of my neighbors about that just this evening. He and his wife are trying very hard, and mostly have it. Others don't seem to be willing to put any thought into it at all. None of them are being deliberately hurtful, but whether it's true or not, it seems like the amount of effort they're willing to make correlates to how much they value me. And so after a while I tend to avoid those who I feel don't consider me worth the extra work. I end up grading those around me, and the amount of time I spend with any of them is proportional to how I think they value me.

But that's really not fair. When I let rationality rule over emotion, I understand that the way they're reacting has less to do with how they value me as it does with their base personalities. Much of it has to do with how naturally empathetic they are, and their own approach toward life. It's cliche to say so, but it does seem to be true that women have a much easier time with it than men do.

And, painful as it is, the solution seems to be to spend more time with those having trouble, not less. The more opportunity they have to think about it - with the help of occasional gentle prompting - the sooner they'll finally get it.

As I explained tonight, I can deal with them doing it when there are only "insiders" around. Most of them have known me for ten years or more, and old habits die hard. It's when "outsiders" are around when it really bothers me. There's one of those "outsiders" visiting with one of my neighbors now. I have no idea whether he knows my story, but he unerringly gets my name and pronouns correct. I really don't need someone else misgendering me around him. It hasn't happened yet to my knowledge, and he's staying with neighbors who are among the most supportive and are putting the most effort into treating me with respect. But the longer he hangs around, the more likely it's going to happen, and the thought makes me wilt inside.

I've mentioned it before here and to some of my neighbors: sometimes the thought of pulling up stakes and starting fresh elsewhere like Aspiringperson has done is extremely attractive. But that's not really an option for me, so I'll grit my teeth and deal with it one pronoun at a time.

The end result is it just prolongs a transition that in so many other ways is moving at lightning speed. But I'll get through it, and some day I'll just be the woman living at the end of the street. That'll happen for you, too, eventually.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 06, 2018, 02:35:41 PM
Thanks, ladies!

Well, Nova Scotia may be the land of free idiots, but at least they're nice. 

I went to the bank today to deposit the cheque that was made out to my deadname.  Rather than using the machine to deposit the cheque and having it come back at me, I went in to talk to the teller.

Picture this...  I am fresh from the electrocutioner, who has just finished frying my upper lip and a large swath of my cheek.  And because of the upper lip frying, I was at the dentist before that to have it frozen.  So here I am at the teller's wicket with three days of stubble around the edges of the area where the electrologist was working, a nasty rash over half my face, my upper lip immobile and grotesquely swollen.  And I am there to present a cheque bearing my deadname.  You couldn't ask for a more dysphoric setup.

"No problem,dear," she says, "Let me look you up. ... Here we go, we have all the details we need right here.  Shall I deposit it to your chequing account?"  She asked if I was aware of an unusually large balance in the account, so I told her it was there to cover the anticipated bill for some bathroom renovations.  So we proceeded to chat about bathroom renos.  She wanted to know what we had done, and she had her own bathroom redone recently, too, and gosh the cost sure can add up fast, can't it? 

Just a nice chat between two women, in spite of the fact that I was obviously trans.

Yeah, I am very glad to be living where I do.  :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on March 06, 2018, 02:39:59 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 06, 2018, 02:35:41 PM
Yeah, I am very glad to be living where I do.  :)

I must come and visit some day:

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Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 06, 2018, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on March 06, 2018, 02:39:59 PM
I must come and visit some day:

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Stephanie
YES!!  Yes, you must.  Put that license plate on the back of yer plane and they'll let you right in.   :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on March 06, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on March 06, 2018, 02:39:59 PM
I must come and visit some day:

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Stephanie

Quote from: KathyLauren on March 06, 2018, 05:17:14 PM
YES!!  Yes, you must.  Put that license plate on the back of yer plane and they'll let you right in.   :D

They spell AIR 'AUR' up there or just bad spellers?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on March 06, 2018, 06:24:04 PM
Watch out Steph, once your in, no gett'n out :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 06, 2018, 06:30:56 PM
Quote from: Faith on March 06, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
They spell AIR 'AUR' up there or just bad spellers?
All our coloUrful neighboUrs up here will be on their best behavioUr to welcome Steph's aUrplane.  See U soon.   ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on March 06, 2018, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 06, 2018, 06:30:56 PM
All our coloUrful neighboUrs up here will be on their best behavioUr to welcome Steph's aUrplane.  See U soon.   ;D

Just as parts of Europe and european natives have the potential of being off spring of the Khan, so do Nova Scotians have Vikings!!!!

Valhala and Trans-Lution !!!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on March 06, 2018, 08:28:36 PM
Quote from: Faith on March 06, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
They spell AIR 'AUR' up there or just bad spellers?

They dou tend tou use toou many "U"s.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 08, 2018, 07:10:47 AM
I passed an interesting milestone last night.  I had my first (remembered) dream in which I gendered myself female.  I think I've gendered myself properly in dreams before, but, since I almost never remember my dreams, I wasn't sure.  Mostly, I think I don't have a gender in my dreams.  This time, I woke up remembering the dream.

Perhaps this is TMI, but in the dream I found myself walking into a sex toy shop.  It was filled with large, hunky men, and I went "Eww!" and quickly turned and left.  My friends were waiting for me outside and said, "What were you thinking?  It says right here on the sign that it is men's night."

I am sure that a Freudian psychologist would have fun analysing that.  But I don't believe in that stuff, and I'm happier just filing it under "Well, that was interesting."

The significant thing for me is that I saw myself as female, that I didn't belong among men, and that my friends also saw me as female.  Yay!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on March 08, 2018, 07:57:06 PM
That's wonderful Kathy.  I'm with you on that.  In my dreams I've never had been gendered either way.  But now that I've been on HRT and actively trying to be the correct gender my dreams sometimes reflect that.  It's silly, but can actually make you happy all day.

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on March 08, 2018, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: Bari Jo on March 08, 2018, 07:57:06 PM
That's wonderful Kathy.  I'm with you on that.  In my dreams I've never had been gendered either way.  But now that I've been on HRT and actively trying to be the correct gender my dreams sometimes reflect that.  It's silly, but can actually make you happy all day.

Bari Jo

Happy all day?  I'd be ecstatic!  I have had dreams gendered both ways.  In a male one, I never think about it.  But in a female one, I think about it all day.  Unfortunately, I don't recall any gender in any dream lately.

Jess
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 12, 2018, 07:38:35 PM
I follow a Facebook page that deals with the aircraft I flew in the air force.  I am not shy about sharing my flying experiences on it and contributing to the discussion when I can.  I make no secret about my background - anyone can follow my Facebook page back far enough to read my transition announcement if they want - but I don't advertise my trans status.  For that matter, I have made posts on that page under my old name that now magically have my new name.  I just don't draw attention to those posts.

Today, someone posted an org chart of the flying school from the years I was there.  It is fun seeing all those names that I recognize.  There I am on page 1.  Ordinarily, I would comment on that fact.  Everybody else does.  I could almost get away with it because my initials are still the same.

The only thing is that the dates don't work.  The chart is from 1979, and the first female pilot didn't graduate until 1981.  Everybody whose name is on the chart knows that the people listed were all male.  Not only is that common knowledge, but the first female pilot is a member of that FB group, so she would notice, if no one else did.  Posting a "that's me" would out me to the group.  I "liked" the post but didn't comment.

It's funny, I don't really have any intention of being stealth.  I don't like the idea.  And yet, here I am acting stealthy on that group. 

I think that I just don't want my being trans to be the centre of attention as it would be if I did comment.  I don't mind if individuals know: they can accept me or unfriend me if they choose.  I don't even mind if individuals want to ask me questions about being trans.  But I don't want to be talked about in a group.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on March 12, 2018, 07:41:35 PM
Interesting.  But remember your a Viking!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 13, 2018, 07:12:46 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 12, 2018, 07:38:35 PM
It's funny, I don't really have any intention of being stealth.  I don't like the idea.  And yet, here I am acting stealthy on that group. 

...And that has been rubbing me the wrong way since I posted that.  So this morning, I outed myself on that group: I posted that that was me ("Lt. K.L. <lastname>") under the OFT section.  We'll see if they can handle it.

Quote from: Cassi on March 12, 2018, 07:41:35 PM
Interesting.  But remember your a Viking!

Thanks, Cassi.  And a Viking announces herself loudly and don't take no crap from nobody.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 14, 2018, 07:29:15 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 13, 2018, 07:12:46 AM
...And that has been rubbing me the wrong way since I posted that.  So this morning, I outed myself on that group: I posted that that was me ("Lt. K.L. <lastname>") under the OFT section.  We'll see if they can handle it.

Only a couple of people have responded so far, but they did it well.  One guy said he remembered me in the OFT section and in A Flight (unspoken subtext: "I get it that you are trans, and it's cool with me.").  I looked back through my logbook and found that he and I had flown together once.  So I replied to him, telling him the date and aircraft number.  ( = "Yes I am.  Thanks.")  And he then confirmed it from his logbook.  ( = "You're welcome.")

I like that the first reaction to outing myself is positive, because that creates peer pressure on anyone who might be thinking of making a negative response.  Those guys are all ex air force, so they respond well to peer pressure.

Being safely out on that group means that I can re-connect with people I knew from an exciting time in my life.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on March 14, 2018, 07:57:10 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 14, 2018, 07:29:15 AM
Only a couple of people have responded so far, but they did it well.  One guy said he remembered me in the OFT section and in A Flight (unspoken subtext: "I get it that you are trans, and it's cool with me.").  I looked back through my logbook and found that he and I had flown together once.  So I replied to him, telling him the date and aircraft number.  ( = "Yes I am.  Thanks.")  And he then confirmed it from his logbook.  ( = "You're welcome.")

I like that the first reaction to outing myself is positive, because that creates peer pressure on anyone who might be thinking of making a negative response.  Those guys are all ex air force, so they respond well to peer pressure.

Being safely out on that group means that I can re-connect with people I knew from an exciting time in my life.
Kathy, that's really cool. I hope you get many more positive responses. There is no reason not to, but it's hard to predict other people's reactions. So far it is looking good. It would be nice for you to get a part of your "old life" back that was important to you.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on March 14, 2018, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 14, 2018, 07:29:15 AM
Only a couple of people have responded so far, but they did it well.  One guy said he remembered me in the OFT section and in A Flight (unspoken subtext: "I get it that you are trans, and it's cool with me.").  I looked back through my logbook and found that he and I had flown together once.  So I replied to him, telling him the date and aircraft number.  ( = "Yes I am.  Thanks.")  And he then confirmed it from his logbook.  ( = "You're welcome.")

I like that the first reaction to outing myself is positive, because that creates peer pressure on anyone who might be thinking of making a negative response.  Those guys are all ex air force, so they respond well to peer pressure.

Being safely out on that group means that I can re-connect with people I knew from an exciting time in my life.

Congratulations Kathy! I had changed my first name from Steve to Steph a while back and had been posting on the support group for the plane I used to represent (The CGS Hawk) as Steph for a while. Just recently I changed the first name on my account to Stephanie, and I see that all my old posts have had the name changed retroactively. No response of any kind yet. [emoji16]

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 18, 2018, 07:13:03 AM
My wife and I went out for dinner last night with a bunch of trans friends and their spouses.  We take over a large table at a restaurant and just have a good time with random conversation.  No one stares, and the wait staff are nice.

All my life, I've longed for a social life, but just couldn't fit in.  It is so cool to be in a group where I belong.  And I don't just mean a trans group.  I am finding that I am a lot more social among cis women, too.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on March 18, 2018, 08:09:07 AM
How nice for you Kathy to have that feeling you belong somewhere. Awesome!

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 18, 2018, 09:04:23 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on March 18, 2018, 08:09:07 AM
How nice for you Kathy to have that feeling you belong somewhere. Awesome!

Jayne
Don't worry, you'll get there, to, hun.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on March 18, 2018, 09:23:48 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 18, 2018, 07:13:03 AM
My wife and I went out for dinner last night with a bunch of trans friends and their spouses.  We take over a large table at a restaurant and just have a good time with random conversation.  No one stares, and the wait staff are nice.

All my life, I've longed for a social life, but just couldn't fit in.  It is so cool to be in a group where I belong.  And I don't just mean a trans group.  I am finding that I am a lot more social among cis women, too.

This is wonderful Kathy, I'm so happy for you, this is what I'm striving for also.  This is what we all strive for.

On another note, you mentioned you had a dream where you were gendered correctly in it.
I had that dream too last night.  My first.  It was just a social setting and I was a woman.  Woke thinking, yep that's who I am.

Smiles, Jess
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on March 18, 2018, 12:37:35 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on March 14, 2018, 09:46:07 AM
Congratulations Kathy! I had changed my first name from Steve to Steph a while back and had been posting on the support group for the plane I used to represent (The CGS Hawk) as Steph for a while. Just recently I changed the first name on my account to Stephanie, and I see that all my old posts have had the name changed retroactively. No response of any kind yet. [emoji16]

Stephanie

Steph Hawk(ings) :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 26, 2018, 07:24:29 PM
Nothing much new to report here. 

I put up a new avatar picture, using the same pic here and on Facebook.  I have had a lot of nice feedback on it, and a theme is emerging from people's comments:  my face is feminizing very nicely.  I have kind of noticed it myself, but other people are noticing it too, including my wife.

I also noticed while shopping today that there are a lot of women out there with really masculine faces.  I saw several today who could have been trans.  Odds are they probably weren't, but still.

When I put these two observations together, I come to one conclusion:  I am often NOT the most masculine-looking woman in the building.  I hesitate to claim that I pass, but could it be possible?  Well, maybe until I open my mouth.  It is a development that I hadn't actually expected.

Amazing stuff, that estradiol!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on March 26, 2018, 07:40:07 PM
Looking awesome Kathy! That is a really nice picture of you. As far as looks go, you pass!! No doubts whatsoever. I can't comment on your voice.

I can only hope E works just as well for me.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on March 26, 2018, 09:39:50 PM
Kathy, I always thought that your pictures looked cute but your new avatar, wow....you are looking awesome!

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 27, 2018, 09:37:23 AM
Thanks, Jayne and Tia Anne!  :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on March 27, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
Wonderful pic of you Kathy!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 27, 2018, 10:51:09 AM
Thanks, Jessica! :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Stevi on March 27, 2018, 03:48:59 PM
Kathy,

I love the glow.  Might be the lighting but I gotta believe some of it is from the inside.

Stevi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on March 27, 2018, 06:23:25 PM
I love your new avatar, Kathy! Just radiant.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 01, 2018, 10:18:45 AM
Thanks, Stevi and Steph!  :)

I looks like I am going to get a repeat engagement of the talk that I did for the astronomy society's 'star party' last summer.  It will be on a slightly different topic, but still one I can easily handle.  The organizer just called me to set it up.

That was a pivotal moment for me, transition-wise, because it forced the newly-transitioned me into the limelight.  I got to be myself in front of a packed house, practise keeping my voice in an acceptable range for an hour, and talk about something totally unrelated to transition.  I went into the experience hopeful, and came out of it brimming with confidence.

Now I'll get to do it again.  I am looking forward to it.  ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Cassi on April 01, 2018, 11:43:16 AM
That's sooooooooooooooooooo awesome!  Your path is written with the stars :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on April 01, 2018, 01:43:34 PM
That is wonderful Kathy. You are getting the chance to engage in normal life stuff as yourself. You have been invited to talk because of who you are as a person and what you know, nothing to do with being trans. That is so ......... normal! I am very happy for you. This time you will enter the experience with confidence gained from last time and no doubt exit with some form of contentment that you are living a normal life.

Keep us posted how it goes.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 02, 2018, 07:30:27 PM
I noticed something today. 

I discovered that I am using my "head voice" now automatically, without even thinking about it.  This is something that just happened by itself, similar to when I first discovered my head voice, last year.  It was just there.  Yes, I have been working on it, trying to get my voice there, and often succeeding.  What is new is that it now goes there by itself.

Kewl!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on April 02, 2018, 07:43:11 PM
yes cooool Kathy now if I would only start using what I learned  myself. sigh

  I think I told you elsewhere I also like your new avatar Kathy.

Hugs,
   Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on April 02, 2018, 10:03:59 PM
Hi Kathy,

Fairly new here at Susan's place. I decided to read your blog where you discussed boob growth. I see sizes mentioned such as A, B, C, D,... X, Y, Z, etc. I know the letters have to do with cup size but how is a size A, B, C, etc. defined? I did buy a sport bra from Jockey in 38 B. It has removable cups, which I haven't a clue what they are used for except maybe to provide some semblance of shape. How are the cup sizes measured?

Tomorrow will be my first whole week on HRT; third patch starts tomorrow afternoon so it's too soon for boob growth. I have experienced one nice reward from HRT, it is easier to pee than it has been for the past several years. I have been on Flomax for several of them; yesterday and today I noticed a great improvement in flow. Today is the day I would have taken the Flomax (once every 3rd day) so I have decided to stop. HRT seems to work faster and better.

Every one of you ladies on Susan's are absolutely beautiful. I'll be 78 in 4 months so I am a good bit older than you young chicks (hope you don't take offense as it is meant as a compliment). I enjoy reading all the posts, what a great group, it's a privilege to be in such awesome company.

Best always,

Christine
 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 03, 2018, 06:19:36 AM
Hi, Christine.

Congrats on starting HRT!  You are never too old to be yourself.

For cup sizes, we are talking about sizing women's clothing: it's all smoke and mirrors!  No one has any idea how it is done!

Seriously, the cup size is determined by measuring the circumference of your chest over the nipples and again below the breasts and comparing the numbers.  There is some kind of formula that "they" use to get cup sizes from those measurements.  The volume of any lettered cup size changes with band size, so a 40B has larger breasts than a 32B.

I just went to a lingerie store and had mine measured.

Yes, an improved ability to pee is one of the side benefits of MTF HRT.  I pee like a fire hose now; that hadn't happened in 30 years or so.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Bari Jo on April 03, 2018, 08:53:14 AM
I love your new avatar Kathy.  I'm always happy to read a dose of positivity when I visit your thread.  Congrats on being a repeat speaker.  That is the kind of lecture is listen to.  I almost minored in astronomy.  I really enjoyed the 4 classes I took in college.

Bari Jo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on April 04, 2018, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 03, 2018, 06:19:36 AM
Hi, Christine.

Congrats on starting HRT!  You are never too old to be yourself.

For cup sizes, we are talking about sizing women's clothing: it's all smoke and mirrors!  No one has any idea how it is done!

Seriously, the cup size is determined by measuring the circumference of your chest over the nipples and again below the breasts and comparing the numbers.  There is some kind of formula that "they" use to get cup sizes from those measurements.  The volume of any lettered cup size changes with band size, so a 40B has larger breasts than a 32B.

I just went to a lingerie store and had mine measured.

Yes, an improved ability to pee is one of the side benefits of MTF HRT.  I pee like a fire hose now; that hadn't happened in 30 years or so.

Kathy,

Thanks for the info, now it makes more sense than just looking at letters and trying to figure out what one needs without resorting to trial and error. I wonder what would happen if I went to a lingerie shop and asked them to measure me; probably call security. I think I better wait until there are noticeable speed bumps on my chest. It should be fun.

I am enjoying outing myself; I no longer have any fear of embarrassment. Almost everyone has been very supportive, with one exception; one neighbor seems to be avoiding me at all cost, which is ok. I'll just fill the slot they occupied with someone nicer, which won't be difficult to do.

Forgot to mention other benefits of HRT and that is I am a lot happier, calmer and sleep better. I am assuming things get even better after an orchi.

I have been on Flomax for several years. in all that time, it has never helped as much as HRT has in 5 days. Something is wrong with the way BHP is being treated. Follow the money for the answer.

Monday is my orchi surgical consultation. I have all the letters I need; my goal is to have my orchiectomy ASAP, which hopefully will happen before the end of the month. The feminization process should accelerate; I'll then look into having my face resurfaced/rebuilt/replaced or whatever it is they do to folks my age. I have spent way too much time in the sun w/o sun block so it is quite weather-beaten.

Advice from a well "seasoned" lady to you young one's:
Stay out of the sun unless you use high SPF sunblock, around 10,000 (don't think that one is available yet). I was to my dermatologist yesterday having precancerous lesions removed from my face. This is an ongoing process that will continue until the day I am planted. That beautiful tan just isn't worth what it costs down the road. Aside from this, I have already had two skin cancers removed; fortunately, neither was melanoma.

Best always,

Christine
EDITED: 04 august 2018 - cj78
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 13, 2018, 08:40:51 AM
Last week, I tried a couple of times to contact the psychiatrist that I was referred to for my second surgery letter.  I wanted to make sure I really was on a waiting list, since I haven't heard anything for seven months. 

The first time, I got voicemail hell and left a message.  The second time, I got through to a human.  She told me that I was indeed on their waiting list.  Yay!

Today, I got a callback from my voicemail message, saying the same thing: I am indeed on their waiting list.  Yay again.  No idea, of course, when I will get to the top of the list, since I am at the bottom of the triage priorities, but hey, it's better than being lost.

The best thing about today's call was answering the phone.  "Hello?"  "May I please speak to Kathleen?"  Squeeeee!  I love hearing my name!

OK, I'm easily amused.  :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on April 13, 2018, 08:52:48 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 13, 2018, 08:40:51 AM
Last week, I tried a couple of times to contact the psychiatrist that I was referred to for my second surgery letter.  I wanted to make sure I really was on a waiting list, since I haven't heard anything for seven months. 

The first time, I got voicemail hell and left a message.  The second time, I got through to a human.  She told me that I was indeed on their waiting list.  Yay!

Today, I got a callback from my voicemail message, saying the same thing: I am indeed on their waiting list.  Yay again.  No idea, of course, when I will get to the top of the list, since I am at the bottom of the triage priorities, but hey, it's better than being lost.

The best thing about today's call was answering the phone.  "Hello?"  "May I please speak to Kathleen?"  Squeeeee!  I love hearing my name!

OK, I'm easily amused.  :)

At least their computer didn't call you and say "Hello Kathleen, please hold and enjoy the music, your call is important to us....   etc,  etc...."

That is very good news to hear....  it is always a wonderful thing to get confirmations of upcoming important medical appointments relating to our transition journeys.   
We will be looking forward to reading your continued updates on your thread... and perhaps elsewhere on the Forums... and we especially want to hear about the results of your much anticipated meeting with the Psychiatrist and your future surgery. 
Best wishes... and HUGS,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 14, 2018, 08:49:22 PM
Ha-ha!  I think I did some "outreach" today.

The theatre group that I sometimes work for was having their fundraising dinner theatre yesterday and today.  I was working in the kitchen.  The fundraiser is shared with the local Knights of Columbus, who do the cooking for the event. 

So we've served a couple of courses, and the kitchen crew are taking a break while the play runs for another act.  One of the Knights sits down beside me and we share some chitchat: "Wow, that got pretty busy there" kind of thing.  He sees the femme presentation, somewhat passable face, and hears a voice that does not quite compute.  So puts two and two together and gets five.  He asks me, "Are you in the play?"  I give him my standard big smile that I use on these occasions and say, "Nope.  Just helping in the kitchen."

I know a couple of the other Knights well enough that I'm sure they will explain it to him when they get back to their hall.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 16, 2018, 07:05:00 AM
I had a couple of interesting dreams last night.  I seldom remember dreams, so I wonder if there is any significance to the fact that both were trans-related.  Maybe all my dreams these days are trans-related and these were just two that I happened to remember.

In the first, I was in a hospital ward, waiting for GRS with half a dozen or so other trans women.  We were chit-chatting and generally having a good time.   I woke up, thought that that was interesting, then want back to sleep and had another dream.  In that one, I was at some kind of trans convention, and I was telling some of the other ladies about the first dream.

Just for reference, I don't have GRS scheduled yet.  My second referral letter is still many months in the future.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on April 17, 2018, 02:21:42 AM
Hi Kathy, just catching up after being MIA for a couple weeks. Happy to hear you are still on the waiting list for your referral letter. not happy that you still have to wait, but happy that you didn't get lost in the system. Hopefully you will make it to the top of the list soon. Maybe your dreams last night were linked back to the interaction with the psychiatrist's office. Referral letter for surgery, dreams about GRS???? Just a thought.

Have you had any feedback from your "outreach" moment with the Knight at the theatre?

Always happy to read about your progress.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 17, 2018, 06:34:50 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on April 17, 2018, 02:21:42 AM
Have you had any feedback from your "outreach" moment with the Knight at the theatre?
No, and I wouldn't expect to yet.  One of the other Knights who was there that night is in my Tuesday evening dance class, so I might hear something tonight.  Or not.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 20, 2018, 06:35:59 AM
Happy birthday to me!   :icon_birthday:

Today is the 1-year anniversary of my going full-time.  It has honestly been the best year of my life.  No more hiding.  I am just Kathy everywhere I go, a funny-looking girl with a deep voice.  I just love the freedom to be myself.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Stevi on April 20, 2018, 06:39:24 AM
Kathy,

:icon_dance: :icon_geekdance: :eusa_dance: :eusa_clap: :icon_walk: :icon_birthday:

Stevi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on April 20, 2018, 07:20:51 AM
Wooooohooooo!!!!!!
Congratulations Kathy!

Happy 1st birthday.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 20, 2018, 08:27:33 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 20, 2018, 06:35:59 AM
Happy birthday to me!   :icon_birthday:

Today is the 1-year anniversary of my going full-time.  It has honestly been the best year of my life.  No more hiding.  I am just Kathy everywhere I go, a funny-looking girl with a deep voice.  I just love the freedom to be myself.

Oh yay! I don't know how to pin a date on mine, just kinda realized it one day. It's cool that you know exactly when. Hard to believe it's been a whole year, isn't it?

Funny looking? I think not. You're a cutie, believe it! It is such a pleasure and privilege to know you, Kathy Lauren! Congratulations on your rebirthday!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on April 20, 2018, 08:42:15 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 20, 2018, 06:35:59 AM
Happy birthday to me!   :icon_birthday:

Today is the 1-year anniversary of my going full-time.  It has honestly been the best year of my life.  No more hiding.  I am just Kathy everywhere I go, a funny-looking girl with a deep voice.  I just love the freedom to be myself.

Kathy:  Exactly right.... yes, Happy Birthday to you... :icon_birthday:  ...it is a great feeling isn't it !!!!   Yes, I celebrate special date related to starting my HRT and then also the date that I went Full-Time.... these are very exciting events for all of us that are transitioning and/or have transitioned.
I think that you look terrific as a full-time female ....
Thanks for you update posting.....
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on April 20, 2018, 12:21:04 PM
Oh my, do they actually let Canadians celebrate birthdays? What do they do, hook up the dog team and go for an evening ride? Drive big trucks over frozen lakes? Chase moose?
  Oh whatever happy first FT b-day, Kathy.

Sent from my LGL44VL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 20, 2018, 02:26:25 PM
Thanks ladies!  :)

My wife and I went for a rebirthday lunch.  We both had veggie stirfry, with chocolate bread pudding for dessert.  Then we went to our favourite second-hand clothing store, conveniently located next door to the restaurant, where I bought a summer top.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/817/41545592482_88f45f98fc_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on April 20, 2018, 04:22:06 PM
What a happy looking pair of ladies! Kathy, it has been so much fun watching you go through this past year or two; starting at "what the heck am I doing" and progressing to the joy shown in both of your faces. You are certainly showing us girls how to go about doing this living stuff well!

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on April 20, 2018, 05:48:03 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 20, 2018, 02:26:25 PM
Thanks ladies!  :)

My wife and I went for a rebirthday lunch.  We both had veggie stirfry, with chocolate bread pudding for dessert.  Then we went to our favourite second-hand clothing store, conveniently located next door to the restaurant, where I bought a summer top.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/817/41545592482_88f45f98fc_b.jpg)

Kathy: Thank you for posting that beautiful picture of you and your wife.......  you both look absolutely terrific.
Again, thanks for your update photo... it is always wonderful to see, in pictures, how other trans-women look as they are out and about.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on April 20, 2018, 06:54:50 PM
That is such a nice photo of you and your wife. You both look so happy. You are a beautiful couple.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 20, 2018, 07:18:07 PM
Tia Anne, Danielle, Jayne, thank you! 

I am really starting to like how I look, especially in photos.  It's amazing!  When I started HRT, I expected breast growth, but I didn't expect my face to change so much.  Well, the boobs are un-spectacular, but I'll accept that happily if most of the E goes to my face.

My wife, of course, has always been beautiful.  She doesn't like being photographed, but she approved of this one and authorized me to publish it.  ;)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on April 20, 2018, 08:19:21 PM
Congratulations Kathy!  You look great and you make a cute couple.

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 20, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 20, 2018, 02:26:25 PM
Thanks ladies!  :)

My wife and I went for a rebirthday lunch.  We both had veggie stirfry, with chocolate bread pudding for dessert.  Then we went to our favourite second-hand clothing store, conveniently located next door to the restaurant, where I bought a summer top.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/817/41545592482_88f45f98fc_b.jpg)

Oh my gosh, you're both gorgeous. Look at all that joy radiating. A picture worthy of framing!

And the Tapas Plate is only $8! How much better can it get?!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 21, 2018, 06:09:30 AM
Thanks, Judi and Steph!   
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on April 21, 2018, 02:15:59 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 20, 2018, 02:26:25 PM
Thanks ladies!  :)

My wife and I went for a rebirthday lunch.  We both had veggie stirfry, with chocolate bread pudding for dessert.  Then we went to our favourite second-hand clothing store, conveniently located next door to the restaurant, where I bought a summer top.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/817/41545592482_88f45f98fc_b.jpg)
Kathy,           21 April 2018

You both are absolutely beautiful and are very lucky to have each other.

Wishing you both the best life has to offer; Love always,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 22, 2018, 05:58:50 PM
Thanks, Christine.

We drove across the province to Bridgewater, where our favourite dog rescue society was holding a fundraising bake sale at a pet store.  If I'd known I'd get photographed, I'd have worn a different sweater than I did on Friday.  But, what the heck, even half out of the picture, I think I look okay.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/798/26765722007_ce68748dd7_b.jpg)

On the way home, on the recommendation of our friends, we stopped at a deli in the middle of nowhere to try their vegan felafels.  Yum.  I caught a woman who was eating at the counter eyeing me suspiciously.  So I just gave her my biggest "I'm way more awesome than you'll ever be" smile, and she looked away guiltily.   >:-)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on April 22, 2018, 06:06:11 PM
You look better than OK Kathy. You are rocking it girl.

I know Bridgewater quite well. It's not very far from my wife's home town.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on April 22, 2018, 07:09:56 PM
Vegan felafels?  Did you buy me any good felafels? It doesn't have to be felafels .... I'm sure other non vegan offerings will be welcomed too.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 22, 2018, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 22, 2018, 05:58:50 PM
Thanks, Christine.

We drove across the province to Bridgewater, where our favourite dog rescue society was holding a fundraising bake sale at a pet store.  If I'd known I'd get photographed, I'd have worn a different sweater than I did on Friday.  But, what the heck, even half out of the picture, I think I look okay.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/798/26765722007_ce68748dd7_b.jpg)

On the way home, on the recommendation of our friends, we stopped at a deli in the middle of nowhere to try their vegan felafels.  Yum.  I caught a woman who was eating at the counter eyeing me suspiciously.  So I just gave her my biggest "I'm way more awesome than you'll ever be" smile, and she looked away guiltily.   >:-)

Oh yay, Kathy! Rocking the look and the attitude! It's wonderful to see you posting slices of everyday life both here and on Facebook. I think we may both be on the same arc. I picked mom up from the rehab this evening and took her to dinner and everything was so... normal!

Life as it's supposed to be!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on April 22, 2018, 08:14:04 PM
"So I just gave her my biggest "I'm way more awesome than you'll ever be" smile, and she looked away guiltily."

Well of course she did.  How could she compete???

The photo in the store is a good one. 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 23, 2018, 04:51:21 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on April 22, 2018, 07:26:51 PM
Oh yay, Kathy! Rocking the look and the attitude! It's wonderful to see you posting slices of everyday life both here and on Facebook. I think we may both be on the same arc. I picked mom up from the rehab this evening and took her to dinner and everything was so... normal!

Life as it's supposed to be!

Stephanie
Thanks, Stephanie!  (And Judi.)

Weird, isn't it, that you and I had to transition to become "normal"!  Glad you had a nice dinner with your Mom.

As for slices of everyday life, ... Ow, ow, OW!!  I pulled a muscle in my neck last week torquing the lug nuts on my summer tires.  It hurt like a SOB on the weekend, but it was recovering nicely by this morning, and I had a good range of motion. 

But today, we had two truckloads of gravel spread on the driveway.  "Spread" was the intention, but there was as much "dumped" as spread.  So guess who got to use shovels and rakes (and implements of destruction*) to spread out the piles?  Loss of upper body strength notwithstanding, yours truly still gets to do the heavy chores like that.  So now, my neck and shoulders are almost siezed up again.

Ow!

* Bonus points for identifying the reference.
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on April 23, 2018, 05:12:41 PM
I hope that implement of destruction comes with an engine and hydraulics. It is the only way to do "manual labour".

Glad your sore neck is getting better.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 23, 2018, 05:14:48 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 23, 2018, 04:51:21 PM
Thanks, Stephanie!  (And Judi.)

Weird, isn't it, that you and I had to transition to become "normal"!  Glad you had a nice dinner with your Mom.

As for slices of everyday life, ... Ow, ow, OW!!  I pulled a muscle in my neck last week torquing the lug nuts on my summer tires.  It hurt like a SOB on the weekend, but it was recovering nicely by this morning, and I had a good range of motion. 

But today, we had two truckloads of gravel spread on the driveway.  "Spread" was the intention, but there was as much "dumped" as spread.  So guess who got to use shovels and rakes (and implements of destruction*) to spread out the piles?  Loss of upper body strength notwithstanding, yours truly still gets to do the heavy chores like that.  So now, my neck and shoulders are almost siezed up again.

Ow!


Around here we call it the "new normal." But the "old normal" didn't feel this good!

As for the rest: Wow... ow!!

First of all, where's that beautiful backhoe you used to trench for the cable? My wife voiced her concern over muscle loss with HRT, and I informed her that that's why humans invented tools. I even have opposable thumbs!

Summer tires already? You really are tempting fate. Both Cassie and I are lucky we didn't pull something after all the times we changed tires on Christine. And it's not over yet. I received two out of the four new trailer tires I'd ordered today. So all four will need to be removed and reinstalled soon.

As for the pain, we have some bizarre parallels going on here. All through Sun-N-Fun it felt like someone had stuck a knife between my shoulder blades. I actually saw the doctor about it today. Yup... pulled muscle. I suspect it was from trying to single-handedly lift the generator into and out of the truck bed before, during, and after the show. In any case, it's getting better, and I can give my hypochondria a rest.

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* Bonus points for identifying the reference.

Ding ding ding!! Bonus points for Stephanie!! Such implements are required for cleaning out the church after throwing all the trash down there from the bell tower...

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 24, 2018, 03:13:22 PM
Close enough, Steph!  You win ... extra cookies when you come to visit.

Speaking of pain, my electrocutioner finally was able to get the stubborn white hairs on the left side of my neck today.  She had suggested a new technique: covering the lidocaine cream with not just two layers of plastic, but also sandwiching two layers of gauze between the plastic.  The idea is to retain heat while the lidocaine percolates into the skin, making it more effective.

I tried it last week on my chin, with promising results, so this week, I tried it on my neck, which so far has resisted any attempts at pain control.  It seemed to work.  Some of the zaps were at my limit, but none were over it.  Nice to finally make progress in that area, which has been resisting for a couple of months.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on April 24, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
You have totally lost me with this mysterious implement you speak of. I need to start googling, or perhaps a photo?

I am glad the new pain control technique is helping to make the zapping more tolerable. I too find the neck area more sensitive. There is a more distinct sting with each zap, I have found. Fortunately my pain tolerance is quite high and so far have been able to cope without any kind of numbing aids, except for my upper lip. That always brings tears to my eyes.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on April 24, 2018, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 24, 2018, 03:13:22 PM
Close enough, Steph!  You win ... extra cookies when you come to visit.

Speaking of pain, my electrocutioner finally was able to get the tubborn white hairs on the left side of my neck today.  She had suggested a new technique: covering the lidocaine cream with not just two layers of plastic, but also sandwiching two layers of gauze between the plastic.  The idea is to retain heat while the lidocaine percolates into the skin, making it more effective.

I tried it last week on my chin, with promising results, so this week, I tried it on my neck, which so far has resisted any attempts at pain control.  It seemed to work.  Some of the zaps were at my limit, but none were over it.  Nice to finally make progress in that area, which has been resisting for a couple of months.

Kathy:
   From my experiences, this is worse that "waterboarding"   I endure lots of pain and end up with a terrible rash and also lots of bumps after those procedures.   Fortunately most of my body hair has stopped or has become very thin and light so there will be less $$$$ going to the "electrocutioner"....
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 24, 2018, 08:09:33 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on April 24, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
You have totally lost me with this mysterious implement you speak of. I need to start googling, or perhaps a photo?
You are obviously tougher than I am!  I need lots of lidocaine before an electrolysis session. 

The normal procedure is to apply it an hour before the session and to cover it with plastic wrap (Saran wrap here, I don't know what you call it down under).  The plastic is taped around the edges to make it airtight.  In my continuing quest for better pain control, I started using two layers of wrap, each taped separately.

This latest version is lidocaine, then one layer of plastic wrap.  Then a double layer of gauze, then the second layer of plastic.  There ain't gonna be any photos!

My electrologist has to do a lot of peeling and cutting to remove the covering.  Sometimes, she will remove it in sections, to keep half of the area covered for later in the session.

@Alaskan Danielle, I get the rash with bumps, too.  Looks great for my dance class later the same day!  (Better the rash than the stubble: it's one or the other.)  I am glad I don't have to deal with body hair.  I never had much, and it has mostly disappeared on HRT.
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on April 24, 2018, 09:26:08 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 24, 2018, 08:09:33 PM
You are obviously tougher than I am!  I need lots of lidocaine before an electrolysis session. 
I don't know if tough is an accurate description. Probably more a limited sense of pain. I have to be careful not to damage myself when doing things because level of pain is not always a good indicator for me that I may be getting myself into trouble.

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The normal procedure is to apply it an hour before the session and to cover it with plastic wrap (Saran wrap here, I don't know what you call it down under).  The plastic is taped around the edges to make it airtight.  In my continuing quest for better pain control, I started using two layers of wrap, each taped separately.

This latest version is lidocaine, then one layer of plastic wrap.  Then a double layer of gauze, then the second layer of plastic.  There ain't gonna be any photos!

My electrologist has to do a lot of peeling and cutting to remove the covering.  Sometimes, she will remove it in sections, to keep half of the area covered for later in the session.
We call it either Glad Wrap (brand name) or cling wrap. I am familiar with the term Saran Wrap from visiting my wife's family over there.

I'm sorry you need to go through such a complicated process to help reduce the pain. The good news is that it is a finite process. It WILL come to an end. The parts that I do feel more pain, I generally try not to think about the zapping process. Instead, I kind of go to my happy place thinking about doing something fun with my wife. If I am lucky, I can sometimes manage to zone out completely and have been known to momentarily fall asleep.

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@Alaskan Danielle, I get the rash with bumps, too.  Looks great for my dance class later the same day!  (Better the rash than the stubble: it's one or the other.)  I am glad I don't have to deal with body hair.  I never had much, and it has mostly disappeared on HRT.
I also get the rash and bumps. They are usually cleared up after 2 or 3 days. I agree, better rash than stubble. My electrologist is always apologising for making a mess. She focuses on working faster than working neatly. So I end up having to shake the hairs off my shirt after a session. I tell her better on my shirt than in my face. The quicker she can work, the happier I am.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on April 25, 2018, 10:25:37 AM
As you progress with electrolysis, you'll run out of big, mature follicles at some point (100-120 hours?), and the electrolyst will be dealing with immature follicles, many just waking up for the first time.  The body seems to have a reaction to losing all that hair, trying to wake every possible follicle to replace the pelt!

These immature follicles will be shallower, closer to the surface, and smaller.  My electrolyst switched to a smaller probe (#3, with extended insulation and a smaller live tip), and a lower current setting for thermolysis. This has a huge impact on discomfort.   I can still (barely) feel the probe insertion, and the pulses of heat from the probe being energized, but it is nothing like when I started out.  Clearing hairs on the upper lip is now quite manageable, and sometimes I don't even sneeze when she works near the nostrils!

Hair is also sparser, so the work in a session is spread across a much larger area of skin.

TL; DR - It gets easier.  Much easier.

 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on April 25, 2018, 11:14:32 AM
I agree with Michelle that it does get easier to take.  I think it hurt as much to pull out the mature hair and root than the actual zap.  The younger hairs are much easier to deal with.  It seems each area triggers different nerves to fire.  When hairs on my neck are zapped I swear I feel it in my toes!  I am finally seeing an end in sight.  I've been doing 2 hours a week for some time.  I want it finished!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 25, 2018, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: Michelle_P on April 25, 2018, 10:25:37 AM
TL; DR - It gets easier.  Much easier.
Thanks, Michelle, that's good to know!  Right now, she's working on stubborn white bristles on my neck that require the machine to be turned up to "kill".  Yesterday was the first session in that area where she didn't have to scrape me off the ceiling.  Looking forward to zapping the wussy hairs.

I was at the dentist today for my regular cleaning and checkup.  The dentist has my prescription info on file, and knows my history well, since it is she who freezes my lips in preparation for electrolysis of those areas.  As she was poking and prodding, she asked me for information on my medications - easier to take her instruments out of my mouth than to look up my file, I think.  I told her, and she said, "Ah, that makes sense!"  Apparently, my gums looked "weird" for a male mouth, but more in line with a female mouth.  I guess that E has similar effects on the skin of the gums as it does to the rest of one's skin.

Apparently, this is a recent dental discovery, that only came to light once more women were doing research in dentistry.  It is interesting in light of @Alaskan Danielle's experience of being outed by her teeth.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: davina61 on April 25, 2018, 04:01:41 PM
Losing upper body strength and aching muscles, yes getting that. finding it hard to lift some wheels back onto motors when on a lift but was never that strong  anyway. Now find myself aching if I do work other than inspections (MOT).
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 01, 2018, 01:49:04 PM
I got my eyebrows waxed today.  I go every couple of months to the local beauty school, where you get a good price and the students get to practise on you.  There are always instructors nearby, so they don't do too bad a job.

The student working on me was having a hard time getting all the hairs to come off on one spot on my left eyebrow, and had several attempts at it, by which time it was getting pretty sore.  She called over the instructor and explained that she was having trouble in that spot and didn't want to continue "because it is hurting him."  I don't allow misgendering to go unchallenged if I know I heard it clearly, so I said "Her."

The instructor solved the immediate problem by finishing that spot with tweezers.  Then the two of them disappeared for a couple of minutes.  When my student esthetician returned, she was very apologetic for misgendering me.  So I suspect there was a teaching moment backstage.

Which makes me feel really good, because I gave that student, and perhaps others who have that same instructor, a chance to learn about working with transgender clients, something that might not have occurred to them in the standard curriculum.

The rest of the session went well, and we chatted about all kinds of beauty-related stuff.  Apparently, it is common for people's left side to respond more strongly to pain than their right side.  That was certainly the case with my eyebrows, and has been the case with electrolysis on my neck.  Which got us talking about electrolysis (Who did I see?  What did I think of her?)  Very enjoyable girl stuff.

And she did a decent job on my brows.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on May 01, 2018, 02:01:32 PM
  Good for you Kathy. You are right about it giving those students an opportunity to learn. I'm afraid I have had very few opportunities to be a teaching tool myself do to my not having indulged in very many female activities. I probably should just get over my insecurities and do some. I mentioned in my own thread that I don't know how to be a woman and I see a lot of that is because I don't give myself opportunities to learn.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 01, 2018, 02:25:36 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 01, 2018, 01:49:04 PM
I got my eyebrows waxed today.  I go every couple of months to the local beauty school, where you get a good price and the students get to practise on you.  There are always instructors nearby, so they don't do too bad a job.

The student working on me was having a hard time getting all the hairs to come off on one spot on my left eyebrow, and had several attempts at it, by which time it was getting pretty sore.  She called over the instructor and explained that she was having trouble in that spot and didn't want to continue "because it is hurting him."  I don't allow misgendering to go unchallenged if I know I heard it clearly, so I said "Her."

The instructor solved the immediate problem by finishing that spot with tweezers.  Then the two of them disappeared for a couple of minutes.  When my student esthetician returned, she was very apologetic for misgendering me.  So I suspect there was a teaching moment backstage.

Which makes me feel really good, because I gave that student, and perhaps others who have that same instructor, a chance to learn about working with transgender clients, something that might not have occurred to them in the standard curriculum.

The rest of the session went well, and we chatted about all kinds of beauty-related stuff.  Apparently, it is common for people's left side to respond more strongly to pain than their right side.  That was certainly the case with my eyebrows, and has been the case with electrolysis on my neck.  Which got us talking about electrolysis (Who did I see?  What did I think of her?)  Very enjoyable girl stuff.

And she did a decent job on my brows.

Kathy:  I have gone to beauty schools previously when I lived in a larger city...  I agree with you, they do a decent job, instructors nearby just in case, and a good price.   
Oh yeah, I have had stubborn eyebrow hair that caused me great pain and the student beautician great anxiety... but as you stated, it is a good learning moment for the student....   and surely the best learning moment for the student was the "correct gendering" moment. 
***I am curious however, were you clearly dressed in female mode when that happened?

I loved reading your updates....   but with this one, where is the picture????  I love seeing pictures.
Thanks for posting your updates regularly.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 01, 2018, 02:32:29 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on May 01, 2018, 02:25:36 PM
***I am curious however, were you clearly dressed in female mode when that happened?

I loved reading your updates....   but with this one, where is the picture????  I love seeing pictures.
Thanks for posting your updates regularly.
Hugs,
Danielle
Oh, yes, I think my presentation was quite femme.  I was wearing a gray sweater with lots of embroidered flowers over a pinkish-purple T-shirt and very skinny jeans.  My wig was a short pixie-type cut, that I don't think was very boyish.  Oh, and I had pink laces in my sneakers.  If she truly thought I was male, she must have thought I was the gayest male she had ever seen.

"Pics or it didn't happen", I know!  I'll have to take a picture of me in that outfit. Maybe when my eyebrows cool off.  They are still ouchy and red.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 01, 2018, 05:14:01 PM
Kathy, well done on taking the opportunity to correct the student with the pronouns and especially for not letting the misgendering get you down. You are clearly secure enough in your own identity that you are able to treat misgendering incidents as a teaching opportunity. I will try to remember that for when I find myself in school molar situations. Thank you.

Oh yeah, photos or it didn't happen! (I need to be careful what I say here since I don't even have a profile pic) [emoji57]

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 01, 2018, 05:32:52 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 01, 2018, 05:14:01 PM
Kathy, well done on taking the opportunity to correct the student with the pronouns and especially for not letting the misgendering get you down. You are clearly secure enough in your own identity that you are able to treat misgendering incidents as a teaching opportunity. I will try to remember that for when I find myself in school molar situations. Thank you.

Oh yeah, photos or it didn't happen! (I need to be careful what I say here since I don't even have a profile pic) [emoji57]

Jayne

@Jayne01  Oh yeah, about your picture: a Galaxy far, far away, or is it a Nebula???   
I am looking forward to any pictures that you eventually post,
but obviously only when you feel comfortable doing it.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 01, 2018, 05:46:08 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on May 01, 2018, 05:32:52 PM
@Jayne01  Oh yeah, about your picture: a Galaxy far, far away, or is it a Nebula???   
I am looking forward to any pictures that you eventually post,
but obviously only when you feel comfortable doing it.
Hugs,
Danielle



My profile picture is a photo my brother took with his telescope. I really don't know what it is. I think it might be a nebula but have no idea which one. Kathy might know. I don't know if this one can be seen from way up north.

Jayne

EDIT: I just had a look at my brother's flickr account and he named this photo:
NGC 2244 - Rosette Nebula
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 01, 2018, 08:05:31 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 01, 2018, 05:46:08 PM

My profile picture is a photo my brother took with his telescope. I really don't know what it is. I think it might be a nebula but have no idea which one. Kathy might know. I don't know if this one can be seen from way up north.

Jayne

EDIT: I just had a look at my brother's flickr account and he named this photo:
NGC 2244 - Rosette Nebula
Oh, that's cool that your brother does astrophotography.  That is my hobby, too.  I was going to post that it is the Rosette Nebula, but I see you have that covered.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 01, 2018, 08:44:29 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 01, 2018, 08:05:31 PM
Oh, that's cool that your brother does astrophotography.  That is my hobby, too.  I was going to post that it is the Rosette Nebula, but I see you have that covered.
I have yet to look through his telescope, but from what I understand it isn't an optical scope. He has a computer and the camera hooked up to it and takes multiple, long exposure photos and then merges the individual images to get the finished product.

He lives on the outer edges of Sydney, like I do, just on opposite ends, so there is still lots of light pollution from the city lights. I am surprised he can still manage to get such cool photos.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 02, 2018, 06:40:47 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 01, 2018, 08:44:29 PM
I have yet to look through his telescope, but from what I understand it isn't an optical scope. He has a computer and the camera hooked up to it and takes multiple, long exposure photos and then merges the individual images to get the finished product.
That's exactly what I do, too.  Here's my version of the Rosette:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dulcemelos.ca%2Fimg%2Fastrogallery%2F20150129%2520NGC2244.jpg&hash=61e9b2aee6ab3dc375612a8784317c8e9b222f11)
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 02, 2018, 06:49:12 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 01, 2018, 08:44:29 PM
I have yet to look through his telescope, but from what I understand it isn't an optical scope. He has a computer and the camera hooked up to it and takes multiple, long exposure photos and then merges the individual images to get the finished product.

He lives on the outer edges of Sydney, like I do, just on opposite ends, so there is still lots of light pollution from the city lights. I am surprised he can still manage to get such cool photos.

Jayne

Cool! Ok, since Kathy is too far north, tell your brother your girlfriend Stephanie wants a picture of Eta Carinae!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 02, 2018, 07:10:57 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 02, 2018, 06:49:12 AM
Cool! Ok, since Kathy is too far north, tell your brother your girlfriend Stephanie wants a picture of Eta Carinae!
Is this what you are looking for? He took these December 3026.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/23826bbe5b9ffca2b24c91ba60d57d51.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/3503f2034fc5c8f14ee792659b27e85c.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 02, 2018, 07:19:15 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 02, 2018, 07:10:57 AM
Is this what you are looking for? He took these December 3026.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/23826bbe5b9ffca2b24c91ba60d57d51.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180502/3503f2034fc5c8f14ee792659b27e85c.jpg)

Hmm. Not the view I'm used to, but probably different filters. Very clear, though! And I knew you guys live in the future, but 3026? Wow! How is the iPhone 3510 selling?


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 02, 2018, 07:24:23 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 02, 2018, 07:19:15 AM
Hmm. Not the view I'm used to, but probably different filters. Very clear, though! And I knew you guys live in the future, but 3026? Wow! How is the iPhone 3510 selling?


- Stephanie
Oops! Let me try again. December 2016. Lol
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on May 02, 2018, 09:02:58 AM
Awesome photos!  I love all the stars in yours Kathy.

Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 02, 2018, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 02, 2018, 07:24:23 AM
Oops! Let me try again. December 2016. Lol
Whew!  I didn't think you were that many time zones ahead of us.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 04, 2018, 07:19:47 AM
I was reading an article in my university's alumni magazine this morning about masculine culture in the wake of the #metoo movement.  The author was hopeful but not optimistic that male culture would change.

It brought up in my mind an incident from my past.  The case was well known nationally - it made headlines on the national news at the time.  A female pilot alleged, many years after the fact, that she had been sexually assaulted by her instructor while she was a student pilot, in exchange for good grades.  Don't worry, I was not that instructor.

But I was an instructor there at the time.  I heard the scuttlebut in the otherwise all-male school: that the relationship was consensual, at her suggestion.  I won't use the words that they used about her, but you can imagine.

I heard what was said about her, and I instincively knew what the truth likely was.  And I cowardly kept my mouth shut about it.  I encountered toxic masculinity, and I caved.  I am not proud of that.

In hindsight, I am more charitable to my former self than I used to be, in light of my transition.  I was so deeply in the closet, especially to myself, that I was totally incapable of opposing the prevailing story.  Anything that suggested that I wasn't one of "them" would have been too revealing of my true self.

I occasionally run into the victim of the assault on Facebook.  One of these days, I might offer her an apology for my silence.  It has been 20 years since the publicity around the case, and almost 40 years since the incident itself.  It still bugs me.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 04, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
I'm sure we've all done things in the past that we're not proud of, out of pure self-preservation. Fear of the consequences of not fitting in, or in extreme cases, of being outed, is a very powerful motivator for playing along or staying silent. Imagine what would have happened 20 years ago if you'd spoken up. And realistically, would you have moved the needle on the prevailing mindset?

I know those fears kept me laughing at transphobic or homophobic jokes, or later just staying quiet. I'm occasionally ashamed of that, but forgive myself since one, I was scared to death at the time, and two, it was in the past, and I think just by openly living my life I've changed a lot of minds.

What you went through was exponentially higher in degree, but the same in substance as some of the things I've done. If you don't think dredging up the past would hurt the woman involved, I see no reason to avoid unburdening yourself. I did a little of that with an old coworker on my Michigan road trip, and it was good for both of us. On the other hand, maybe she would rather leave the past be. Maybe you can get a feel for her thoughts from her Facebook page.

Whatever you decide, please stop beating yourself up about it. You are wiser and better than you were way back then.

Hugs,

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on May 04, 2018, 09:21:08 AM
If this is still weighing on you after all these years, likely it is with her as well.  It had a big impact on you, but I feel it was far more on her.  She may not want to dredge up the past, but I see no harm in letting her (privately) know than you apologize for having fear stop you from questioning it all.  Insert the caveat that no reply is necessary, but that one would be received with no reservation.  Just knowing you have made the attempt is enough to give you peace of mind.
It's easiest to sit back, but it makes it harder to live.

Hugs and smiles, Jess
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 04, 2018, 07:19:47 AM
I was reading an article in my university's alumni magazine this morning about masculine culture in the wake of the #metoo movement.  The author was hopeful but not optimistic that male culture would change.

It brought up in my mind an incident from my past.  The case was well known nationally - it made headlines on the national news at the time.  A female pilot alleged, many years after the fact, that she had been sexually assaulted by her instructor while she was a student pilot, in exchange for good grades.  Don't worry, I was not that instructor.

But I was an instructor there at the time.  I heard the scuttlebut in the otherwise all-male school: that the relationship was consensual, at her suggestion.  I won't use the words that they used about her, but you can imagine.

I heard what was said about her, and I instincively knew what the truth likely was.  And I cowardly kept my mouth shut about it.  I encountered toxic masculinity, and I caved.  I am not proud of that.

In hindsight, I am more charitable to my former self than I used to be, in light of my transition.  I was so deeply in the closet, especially to myself, that I was totally incapable of opposing the prevailing story.  Anything that suggested that I wasn't one of "them" would have been too revealing of my true self.

I occasionally run into the victim of the assault on Facebook.  One of these days, I might offer her an apology for my silence.  It has been 20 years since the publicity around the case, and almost 40 years since the incident itself.  It still bugs me.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 04, 2018, 09:55:25 AM
Thanks Steph and Jessica.

Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 04, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
I know those fears kept me laughing at transphobic or homophobic jokes, or later just staying quiet. I'm occasionally ashamed of that, but forgive myself since one, I was scared to death at the time, and two, it was in the past, and I think just by openly living my life I've changed a lot of minds.

Whatever you decide, please stop beating yourself up about it. You are wiser and better than you were way back then.

Don't worry, I am not beating myself up over it.  I understand why I didn't speak up and I have forgiven my younger self.  Nowadays, it is just one of those cringe-worthy memories.

Quote from: Jessica on May 04, 2018, 09:21:08 AM
She may not want to dredge up the past, but I see no harm in letting her (privately) know than you apologize for having fear stop you from questioning it all.

I am not too worried about dredging up the past for her.  She went very public with the accusation at the time, and it is mentioned in her Wikipedia article.  It's not what she wants to be famous for, but she is nevertheless well-known for it.  Any contact I make on the subject will be private, of course.

I might not bring it up at all, unless the subject comes up.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 04, 2018, 12:29:21 PM
Hi Everyone,             04 May 2018

I am guilty of everything you all have said. I hid my real self and did and said crappy (not the word I'd liked to have used) things because I was a coward. I was afraid to admit who and what I was. I cannot go back and undo what I did or said, but I can make sure I do not repeat those actions, or lack there of, again and will step up when I see and hear it from someone else.

I grew up in a dysfunctional family of alcoholics and bigots; fortunately they are now history. Unfortunately, this is not an uncommon thread in our culture. It is long overdue for an overhaul.

Prior to beginning my transition in earnest, I did a lot of research, about a years worth. One item kept popping up which made me realize that the majority of the brutality and aggression that exists on earth has one common denominator: TESTOSTERONE

Just received my hormone test results yesterday: Testosterone = 10 ng/dl (normal male range = 221 - 716),  Estradiol = 58 pc/ml . Good riddance "T" you are no longer my nemesis.

Best Always, Love to all,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 04, 2018, 09:16:43 PM
I too, have done things or not done anything when I should have, all in an effort to fit in. I am not proud of that. I am trying to make up for my past by being a better person now. The past can't be changed.

If the incident with this pilot is weighing on you, it could be good for you and her to make contact. You were both victims of the social norms in a different era.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on May 04, 2018, 10:29:49 PM
Kathy, yes, we have all done things that we are not proud of and wish we could have a do over. But I have to praise you and thank you for speaking up about something that could have well remained hidden. You continue to demonstrate that you are one good hearted woman. Thank you for that.

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 07, 2018, 07:26:14 PM
I took this photo for @Alaskan Danielle's hot & sweaty collection, but what the heck, this is my thread and my photo. 

I've spent the last three afternoons shovelling and raking gravel for our 800' driveway.  The dump truck driver dumped half of it in the wrong place, and couldn't spread the rest evenly because of overhead wires.  So shovel, rake and wheelbarrow were the only options.  I'll have to make sure I don't get all muscle-y.

This is me after today's work.  I may be sweaty, but I'm still moderately cute.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/827/41239883594_a81ba2164b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 07, 2018, 07:50:55 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 07, 2018, 07:26:14 PM
I took this photo for @Alaskan Danielle's hot & sweaty collection, but what the heck, this is my thread and my photo. 

I've spent the last three afternoons shovelling and raking gravel for our 800' driveway.  The dump truck driver dumped half of it in the wrong place, and couldn't spread the rest evenly because of overhead wires.  So shovel, rake and wheelbarrow were the only options.  I'll have to make sure I don't get all muscle-y.

This is me after today's work.  I may be sweaty, but I'm still moderately cute.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/827/41239883594_a81ba2164b_b.jpg)

Kathy: I love these real life situations that we always don't look our best... that happens to me a lot...  we can always be prettied up when the need arises, but we have life to deal with... and some of those issues are dirty and sweaty....   I got your post on my thread and when I do the "hot and sweaty" Montage I will certainly include your picture and any others that show you working hard.... I am not just planning to include only ONE picture if anyone has more that is great.  I am hoping that I have a couple from each member that wants to be included.
Thanks for your posting here and on my thread....   this will be fun once I can get it all together....   then of course on another thread there were plans for Bikini Pictures....   fun things for sure.
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 07, 2018, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 07, 2018, 07:26:14 PM
I took this photo for @Alaskan Danielle's hot & sweaty collection, but what the heck, this is my thread and my photo. 

I've spent the last three afternoons shovelling and raking gravel for our 800' driveway.  The dump truck driver dumped half of it in the wrong place, and couldn't spread the rest evenly because of overhead wires.  So shovel, rake and wheelbarrow were the only options.  I'll have to make sure I don't get all muscle-y.

This is me after today's work.  I may be sweaty, but I'm still moderately cute.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/827/41239883594_a81ba2164b_b.jpg)

Hola Kathy,                07 May 2018

You still look like a hot chick (no pun intended with the hot). An 800' foot driveway? Where do you live, out in the country? That has to be a lot of shoveling, more than I'd want to do. I think I'd be a callin Hertz Rent A Dozer. Driving is a whole lot easier than shoveling.

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on May 07, 2018, 07:50:55 PM

Kathy: I love these real life situations that we always don't look our best... that happens to me a lot...  we can always be prettied up when the need arises, but we have life to deal with... and some of those issues are dirty and sweaty....   I got your post on my thread and when I do the "hot and sweaty" Montage I will certainly include your picture and any others that show you working hard.... I am not just planning to include only ONE picture if anyone has more that is great.  I am hoping that I have a couple from each member that wants to be included.
Thanks for your posting here and on my thread....   this will be fun once I can get it all together....   then of course on another thread there were plans for Bikini Pictures....   fun things for sure.
Danielle

Hi Danielle,

I can send you a photo of me bustin hump but it was taken before I transitioned, about 4 years ago. I was working up in a tree. Will it qualify for inclusion in Hot and Sweaty?

As for the bikini photos, the only photos I have were taken at the nudist resort. I really don't think you nor I would want them posted anywhere; the same goes for a bikini photo.

Kathy, from an earlier post on your thread I read where you were a flight instructor. Are you still flying and what do or did you fly?

Well Kathy, it's been nice posting on your thread. Please take care of yourself. Go rent a front end loader, it'll make that 800' seem like 80 feet and you won't have to worry about muscling up; it'll also be easier on your back.

Best Always,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 07, 2018, 10:27:03 PM
Still looking good there Kathy. I do have to agree with Christine, surely there is a machine that could help with the manual labour. Shovelling is never fun, no matter how good you look doing it.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 08, 2018, 05:40:42 AM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 07, 2018, 08:55:48 PMAn 800' foot driveway? Where do you live, out in the country?  That has to be a lot of shoveling, more than I'd want to do. I think I'd be a callin Hertz Rent A Dozer. Driving is a whole lot easier than shoveling.

Yes, we have 25 acres in a very rural area.  Our driveway is longer than most, even for this area.  I thought about hiring someone to come and grade it, but we've been spending money pretty fast lately (just having the gravel delivered cost nearly $1000), so hand work was the only way.  It's mostly done now.


Quote
Kathy, from an earlier post on your thread I read where you were a flight instructor. Are you still flying and what do or did you fly?
I was a flying instructor in the (Royal) Canadian Air Force back in the late 1970s and early 80s.  We flew the Canadair Tutor jet, the same plane still flown by the Snowbirds aerobatic team today.  I only kept up a civilian license for a few years after I got out, until I realized that there was no point: I'd done it all.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/945/41927108102_1fca6a0f78_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 08, 2018, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 08, 2018, 05:40:42 AM
Yes, we have 25 acres in a very rural area.  Our driveway is longer than most, even for this area.  I thought about hiring someone to come and grade it, but we've been spending money pretty fast lately (just having the gravel delivered cost nearly $1000), so hand work was the only way.  It's mostly done now.

I was a flying instructor in the (Royal) Canadian Air Force back in the late 1970s and early 80s.  We flew the Canadair Tutor jet, the same plane still flown by the Snowbirds aerobatic team today.  I only kept up a civilian license for a few years after I got out, until I realized that there was no point: I'd done it all.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/945/41927108102_1fca6a0f78_z.jpg)

Kathy: Very nice update and posting of the aircraft that is in your CAF photo. As we transition, we all have interesting past experiences that can be fond memories and fun to review, if anything, it just shows how far we have come.... and of course some experiences and memories that we want to keep buried with our old-self.

Hmm, your long driveway does indeed sound like a big task to do manually....  but the cost of gravel and paying someone can certainly cost more than you planned....  plus the hard work keeps your body looking and feeling good, especially after your shower.....   hmm, perhaps a shower picture to add to my planned montage, LOL.
You do look very good in your "Hot and Sweaty" picture that you posted, but of course there was no closeup and our pictures don't come with all the details of standing next to you when you are hot and sweaty!!!!
Again, thanks for keeping us all updated... your thread is a joy for me to follow.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 08, 2018, 09:38:20 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 08, 2018, 05:40:42 AM
Yes, we have 25 acres in a very rural area.  Our driveway is longer than most, even for this area.  I thought about hiring someone to come and grade it, but we've been spending money pretty fast lately (just having the gravel delivered cost nearly $1000), so hand work was the only way.  It's mostly done now.

I was a flying instructor in the (Royal) Canadian Air Force back in the late 1970s and early 80s.  We flew the Canadair Tutor jet, the same plane still flown by the Snowbirds aerobatic team today.  I only kept up a civilian license for a few years after I got out, until I realized that there was no point: I'd done it all.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/945/41927108102_1fca6a0f78_z.jpg)

Good Morning Kathy,                 08 May 2018

Well, Thank You for Your Service. That is awesome. You did "Do it All."

Never flew military though I wanted to. Poor choices on my part precluded it.

Glad you're almost finished with the driveway. That had to be an enormous task.

Take care, don't work too hard or you'll "Muscle-up." I've decided I'm not going to worry about the muscling up; I climb trees and that does a lot for the upper body's  muscle-tone. I'll just be a balding old gal with ripped muscles and hopefully some boobs. They are a startin.

Best Always,
Christine 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 09, 2018, 07:50:14 AM
A hard day of driving yesterday.  We drove 2.5 hours each way to where my wife's parents lived, so she and her sister could wind up their father's financial affairs.  (He died in January; his wife died back in September.) 

We were hoping it would only take an hour or so to close the accounts, but it ended up being nearly two hours.  I was just along as chauffeur, but I sat in on the long meeting with the bank rep, while she talked on the speaker phone with someone at a data centre in India.  Lots of technical glitches, and too much "hurry up and wait", but they eventually got it done.  Boring!  The rep whose office we were in was almost catatonic at the slow pace of the transaction.

No funny looks from anyone in the bank, even when I had to go to the front desk and plead to use a washroom.  (Thanks, spiro!)  Since they don't have a public washroom, they had to have someone escort me to the staff washroom in the back.   They were all very nice about it.

We have to repeat the long drive in a couple of weeks for my father-in-law's memorial service.  It could be interesting, because there will be extended family there who might not have heard about me.  I'm sure they'll all be nice to me, even if they go home afterwards and gossip.

Thanks, @christinej78.  From your signature, it looks like you have "done it all", too.  What did/do you fly?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 09, 2018, 12:03:04 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 09, 2018, 07:50:14 AM
Thanks, @christinej78.  From your signature, it looks like you have "done it all", too.  What did/do you fly?

Good Morning Kathy,            09 May 2018

My license is private, single, multi, land. My favorite is the Cessna T-310R, the last of the 310 series. I like it because it is fast, fairly heavy (stable) and is difficult to fly for some folks. It has complex systems. I didn't fly for sight seeing, I did it to challenge my skills. If I wasn't soaked in sweat after a flight, it wasn't a fun/good flight.

I guess I've done a couple of things, I am now an arborist. I like trees and enjoy taking care of them. I sometimes just climb for the sheer joy of being up in the canopy. I have a photo of me up in a tree I was wrecking out (felling) that was taken by a friend 5 years ago. I'm going to try and send it to Danielle for her "Sweaty" montage.

I gave up flying several years ago as I'm not a spring chick. I don't like the idea of possibly endangering others just because I am doing something I like. The only way I would fly today would be if I had someone along that was proficient in the type and model we are in. My health is excellent, but time is closing in on me, I don't have 50 years ahead of me like I had in 1968; of course I didn't know that back then. Now it's just mundane stuff I do where only I can get hurt.

Was a biker for a period until I had a couple close calls. Think my boss upstairs was sending me a message: "Get rid of that thing before you end up crippled." Listened to him and sold the Harley in 1999. I looked the part, long gray hair, beard, well worn Levies and fancy black Lucchese cowboy boots. Those were the days; almost always rode alone, didn't feel safe riding in a gaggle of bikers with varying skill levels. Need to add this to my signature.

I used to vacation north of Thessalon, Ontario up the Chapleau Highway (Highway 129) at Cummings Lake. The water was so clean you could drink it right out of the lake. One of the best vacations I have ever had was back in 1975; my two Huskies and I went up there for two weeks. My girlfriend at the time couldn't go (yay!). No complaining and griping about the primitive conditions. We had a blast, rock climbing, boating, swimming, hiking the bush. You name it, we did it. My pooches loved it.

The first day there we wore ourselves out doing things physical. We went to bed, the dogs crawled under the bed and it was snooze city. When I awoke in the morning I could barely breathe. I remember thinking I must have come down with a life threatening illness. When I opened my eyes I could see what was causing my breathing problem. Both Huskies, 70 lbs. each, were lying across my chest. That was the ritual every morning thereafter.

Somewhere I have an 8mm movie I shot of them sitting in chairs at the breakfast table eating their French Toast with genuine "Maple Surple" (thank you Roger Miller for "Dang Me" and "Maple Surple"); I've called it that ever since.

I get started and I can't stop. Gonna stop now as it's almost lunch time and I haven't had my breakfast... yet. That's next.

See what you get when you ask me a question.

Beast Always, Love
Christine

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 13, 2018, 06:07:47 PM
I've noticed a couple of things lately: my voice seems to be higher, and my posture is better.

I can't credit any effort on my part, and it is unlikely to be HRT.  Instead, I think it is just the power of intention.  I do frequently remind myself that I ought to work on my voice, and I ought to suck my gut in and stick my boobs out.  It seems that that is enough to make actual changes.  Who knew?

Anyway, I am happy to see the results.  It's enough to inspire me to make an actual effort.  :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on May 13, 2018, 06:15:56 PM
I have noticed that when I mindfully think about my posture, and walk like a woman.....I feel more like a woman and I feel I project myself in a more feminine way.  I have noticed that my voice can be in a higher range when I am not thinking about it, but it can go deep at a moments notice.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 13, 2018, 06:24:08 PM
Lately I've been paying more attention to posture. I still do the guy slouch thing. My wife has been watching and teaching me how to walk better and keeping the elbows close to my side helps. I can now get my voice into female range about 15% of the time  if I'm not excited about something.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 13, 2018, 07:09:22 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 13, 2018, 06:07:47 PM
I've noticed a couple of things lately: my voice seems to be higher, and my posture is better.

I can't credit any effort on my part, and it is unlikely to be HRT.  Instead, I think it is just the power of intention.  I do frequently remind myself that I ought to work on my voice, and I ought to suck my gut in and stick my boobs out.  It seems that that is enough to make actual changes.  Who knew?

Anyway, I am happy to see the results.  It's enough to inspire me to make an actual effort.  :)

I *think* I'm doing ok with the walk, but the voice is a strange thing. Around home it's whatsisname's voice. I should make it a rule that I have to use the new voice all the time, no exceptions. Some of it is I just let myself relax behind closed doors. But a lot of it is because I'm so self-conscious about it around my wife. It didn't help that she told me she was so used to the old voice that any time I try to change it it sounds faintly ridiculous to her. Thanks...

But when I'm in public it seems to go higher and more feminine without any conscious effort. It happened over and over again today. In the car the old voice came out, but any time there was a stranger involved, what passes for my new voice just came out. Back and forth all day. Weird...

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 13, 2018, 08:17:51 PM
Trying to fit in as a man all these years has been like carrying a heavy weight around. When I let Jayne out, That weight seems to lift and my posture naturally improves. As for my voice, it's driving me crazy, it is either "him" or some weird cartoon character. I can't seem to find a nice balance in between. My voice is the current source of much of my dysphoria.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 13, 2018, 08:46:33 PM
Voice is an interesting thing. My wife loves my voice the way it is but knows I'm working on changing it. I hit female about 15% of the time now.
I not making the voice thing a source of concern. People are now referencing my voice to my new name and that is great. I can get away with strangers 90% of the time keeping my voice under control. An interesting conversation with a translady recently changed my mind a bit. She is 5 years into transitioning and 3 post op and is doing nothing with her voice. She does not sound overly female but has been female long enough that her looks override the urge to misgendered her by strangers. I'm starting to notice the same thing and so the voice is now a low priority item for me. Oh how thought can change so quickly about what is important or next.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 14, 2018, 08:03:35 AM
Quote from: Jessica on May 13, 2018, 06:15:56 PM
I have noticed that when I mindfully think about my posture, and walk like a woman.....I feel more like a woman and I feel I project myself in a more feminine way.  I have noticed that my voice can be in a higher range when I am not thinking about it, but it can go deep at a moments notice.
I have noticed the same thing for both points.

A funny thing I've noticed on my voice.  I sometimes run into my voice therapist at the theatre where she is an actor and I am the sound-and-light girl.  When I do, my voice suddenly jumps an octave!  I guess my subconscious wants to make a good impression.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jacey Jones on May 14, 2018, 08:48:58 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 06, 2017, 10:21:16 AM
At the time, I was horrified, as I thought any right-minded person would be.  But when I tried to talk about my feelings of horror, I was told, in no uncertain terms, that, because the victims were targeted because they were women, as "a man", I could not possibly comprehend the feeling. 

I hate when people do this.  It's like when bad parents say, "You don't understand because you don't have kids."
People are entitled to their feelings as long as said feelings are not meant to oppress, abuse or hurt others in any way, shape or form.  There is no need to qualify feelings.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 15, 2018, 05:06:01 PM
I am skipping out of the last dance class of the season tonight.  I really like the dancing - it keeps you on your toes (groan!  :P ) - but tonight, I look like I have some dreaded communicable skin disease.  I don't; it's just the result of my electrolysis appointment earlier in the day.

For various scheduling reasons, my electrolysis appointment is usually on the same day as dance class.  For months, I have been getting my neck area zapped, but the rash was not too visible.  I just went to dancing with a rash on my neck, and no one commented. 

But today, she worked on my cheek, and it's pretty hard to miss.  It's practically flashing neon.  So I chickened out and skipped the dancing.  Ordinarily, I don't worry about what people think, but my self-confidence has limits, apparently.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 15, 2018, 06:32:18 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 15, 2018, 05:06:01 PM
I am skipping out of the last dance class of the season tonight.  I really like the dancing - it keeps you on your toes (groan!  :P ) - but tonight, I look like I have some dreaded communicable skin disease.  I don't; it's just the result of my electrolysis appointment earlier in the day.

For various scheduling reasons, my electrolysis appointment is usually on the same day as dance class.  For months, I have been getting my neck area zapped, but the rash was not too visible.  I just went to dancing with a rash on my neck, and no one commented. 

But today, she worked on my cheek, and it's pretty hard to miss.  It's practically flashing neon.  So I chickened out and skipped the dancing.  Ordinarily, I don't worry about what people think, but my self-confidence has limits, apparently.
I think you look great! It's ok if your self confidence takes a break from time to time. What is a little communicable disease between friends! [emoji12]
I am on my way to get zapped right now. I'm running late, slept through my alarm.

Hug,

Jayne

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 15, 2018, 06:54:36 PM
And some sad news today.  A trans-male member of our support group passed away.  There are no specifics, but it seems to have been from natural causes.  I know he had some serious medical issues. 

He was actually distantly connected to my wife's family.  His second cousin was married to her third cousin once removed, or something like that.  We weren't close, though we sometimes messaged each other. 

But the saddest thing is that his obituary misgendered him throughout.  For some reason, that hurts worse than his dying.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 15, 2018, 11:02:48 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 15, 2018, 06:54:36 PM
And some sad news today.  A trans-male member of our support group passed away.  There are no specifics, but it seems to have been from natural causes.  I know he had some serious medical issues. 

He was actually distantly connected to my wife's family.  His second cousin was married to her third cousin once removed, or something like that.  We weren't close, though we sometimes messaged each other. 

But the saddest thing is that his obituary misgendered him throughout.  For some reason, that hurts worse than his dying.
Kathy, I am sorry to hear about the passing of your friend from the support group. That is terrible how he was misgendered in his obituary. He wasn't being remembered the way he would have liked. I hope that a corrected obituary can be published.

(((Hug)))

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 15, 2018, 11:12:08 PM
Sorry to hear about your friend Kathy. Hope they can fix the wording in the obituary.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 16, 2018, 06:05:45 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 15, 2018, 11:02:48 PM
Kathy, I am sorry to hear about the passing of your friend from the support group. That is terrible how he was misgendered in his obituary. He wasn't being remembered the way he would have liked. I hope that a corrected obituary can be published.

(((Hug)))

Jayne

Quote from: Donna on May 15, 2018, 11:12:08 PM
Sorry to hear about your friend Kathy. Hope they can fix the wording in the obituary.

Thanks, Jayne and Donna.  The obituary won't be changed.  Through family connections, my wife learned that it was written by his mother, who has always been non-accepting of his transition.  The misgendering was deliberate.  So sad.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 16, 2018, 07:23:45 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 16, 2018, 06:05:45 AM
Thanks, Jayne and Donna.  The obituary won't be changed.  Through family connections, my wife learned that it was written by his mother, who has always been non-accepting of his transition.  The misgendering was deliberate.  So sad.
OMG! That is so sad. I am having trouble comprehending such a deliberate act of cruelty.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 16, 2018, 07:35:23 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 16, 2018, 07:23:45 AM
OMG! That is so sad. I am having trouble comprehending such a deliberate act of cruelty.
Yeah, me too.  One final twist of the knife.  That actually made me sadder than his passing.  And angry.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 16, 2018, 07:38:45 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 16, 2018, 06:05:45 AM
Thanks, Jayne and Donna.  The obituary won't be changed.  Through family connections, my wife learned that it was written by his mother, who has always been non-accepting of his transition.  The misgendering was deliberate.  So sad.

That is one of the saddest things I've heard. He died after being forced to choose between being true to himself, and his mother's love. It's just terrible!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 17, 2018, 11:35:31 AM
Yesterday evening, my wife and I went to the town's ceremony of raising the rainbow flag for IDAHoTB.  I like the fact that a little place in what is considered a very rural area can make a public display of supporting queer communities.  Attendance was decent: perhaps 100 or 150 people.  Several trans people, mostly LGB people, and quite a few apparently straight people.  Anything that normalizes our existence is a good thing.  The mayor comes across as smarmy, but his support seems genuine.

[edit] Pics or it didn't happen...  That's me in the red jacket, centre-left, with my wife to my right.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/904/41457010444_a4f62e0b14_b.jpg)
(Still from NSLive TV video report by Brian Cottam)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 17, 2018, 04:50:26 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 17, 2018, 11:35:31 AM
Yesterday evening, my wife and I went to the town's ceremony of raising the rainbow flag for IDAHoTB.  I like the fact that a little place in what is considered a very rural area can make a public display of supporting queer communities.  Attendance was decent: perhaps 100 or 150 people.  Several trans people, mostly LGB people, and quite a few apparently straight people.  Anything that normalizes our existence is a good thing.  The mayor comes across as smarmy, but his support seems genuine.

[edit] Pics or it didn't happen...  That's me in the red jacket, centre-left, with my wife to my right.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/904/41457010444_a4f62e0b14_b.jpg)
(Still from NSLive TV video report by Brian Cottam)
Kathy, it is very cool that your small community displays such support. Silly question, what is IDAHoTB?

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 17, 2018, 05:04:41 PM
IDAHoTB = International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia.  Originally called IDAHo because it made a cute acronym, they later added the T and B.

Yes, that particular town is a pretty civilized place.  The fact that university students almost outnumber permanent residents keeps it interesting.  It's about a half-hour drive from our tiny village.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 17, 2018, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 17, 2018, 04:50:26 PM
Kathy, it is very cool that your small community displays such support. Silly question, what is IDAHoTB?

Jayne

Thank you, Jayne. I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't get it. I had to look it up. International Day Against Homophobia Transphobia, and Biphobia.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 17, 2018, 05:10:08 PM
Thank you Kathy and Steph for the definition. My little brain is being overloaded with acronyms.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 17, 2018, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 17, 2018, 05:10:08 PM
Thank you Kathy and Steph for the definition. My little brain is being overloaded with acronyms.

I know! Too many TLAs, FLAs, and now SLAs!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 17, 2018, 05:29:13 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 17, 2018, 05:23:41 PM
I know! Too many TLAs, FLAs, and now SLAs!

Stephanie
TLA = Thrust Lever Angle
FLA = Flap Lever Angle
SLA = ?

I can list hundreds more. And then it depends who came up with the acronym, the same letters can mean different things.

FCU (Boeing) = Fuel Control Unit
FCU (Airbus) = Flight Control Unit

Sorry Kathy, I got carried away with plane talk again.


Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 17, 2018, 05:36:53 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 17, 2018, 05:23:41 PM
I know! Too many TLAs, FLAs, and now SLAs!

Stephanie
Ha!  I thought you had to attend DECUS to know what a TLA is.  (DECUS was the annual convention for users of Digital Equipment Corporation computers, now defunct.)  DECcies know about them.

OK, I'll take pity on poor Jayne...

TLA = Three Letter Acronym.
FLA = Four Letter Acronym.
etc.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 17, 2018, 05:51:15 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 17, 2018, 05:36:53 PM
Ha!  I thought you had to attend DECUS to know what a TLA is.  (DECUS was the annual convention for users of Digital Equipment Corporation computers, now defunct.)  DECcies know about them.

OK, I'll take pity on poor Jayne...

TLA = Three Letter Acronym.
FLA = Four Letter Acronym.
etc.

One of my favorites, especially applicable to movie and TV producers in the 70s who showed computers, was FLI.

Flash Lights Impressively

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 17, 2018, 06:09:39 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 17, 2018, 05:36:53 PM
TLA = Three Letter Acronym.
FLA = Four Letter Acronym.
etc.
No, no, no!!!! They are aviation acronyms!!! They are, they really, really are!!!

I suppose I can accept your version as well. [emoji16]

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 18, 2018, 11:44:12 AM
I took our car to the dealer this morning to get serviced.  They have my proper name on file, and call me Kathy or Miss Walker when I go there.

It occurred to me how much visibility I get there.  The counter staff in the service department know me.  The sales staff in the showroom don't know who I am, but they know that I have killed time in there, and that I drive an older model, so will be a potential customer in a few years.  From them, management will know that they have a regular customer who is transgender.  So, if the mechanics on the shop floor start talking trash about trans people, they are going to hear about it from management: "We have a trans customer, so don't be talking like that." 

That is not a bad way to normalize our presence in society at large, just by going out and being myself.  I like that.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 18, 2018, 02:10:17 PM
Hi Kathy,                18 May 2018

How's the 800 foot driveway coming along? You do know you could have it paved for a couple hundred.... thousand dollars.

Best Always,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 18, 2018, 03:39:11 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 18, 2018, 11:44:12 AM
That is not a bad way to normalize our presence in society at large, just by going out and being myself.  I like that.
That is a great way to look at things. Just be yourself. We are normal people, living normal lives. Only thing that makes us different is that many of us get the opportunity to experience life in two genders.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 18, 2018, 04:53:24 PM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 18, 2018, 02:10:17 PM
Hi Kathy,                18 May 2018

How's the 800 foot driveway coming along? You do know you could have it paved for a couple hundred.... thousand dollars.

Best Always,
Christine
It's pretty much done for this season.  The worst of the bumps are smoothed out.  It's still not quite as smooth as I'd like it, but it will smooth itself out when it softens up in next year's thaw.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 18, 2018, 05:45:55 PM
I don't know what my sister paid but there drive is 1/2 a mile from the highway to the house. That would suck if the plow quit in the winter.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on May 18, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 17, 2018, 11:35:31 AM
Yesterday evening, my wife and I went to the town's ceremony of raising the rainbow flag for IDAHoTB.  I like the fact that a little place in what is considered a very rural area can make a public display of supporting queer communities.  Attendance was decent: perhaps 100 or 150 people.  Several trans people, mostly LGB people, and quite a few apparently straight people.  Anything that normalizes our existence is a good thing.  The mayor comes across as smarmy, but his support seems genuine.



Its always great to receive that kind of public affirmation. It also gives you a gauge on how others are reacting to our community. Sounds to me that your community is a very forgiving and open one. I agree with you...anything that does normalise us is a good thing...we just need more of them!!

Take care

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 18, 2018, 06:58:34 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 18, 2018, 04:53:24 PM
It's pretty much done for this season.  The worst of the bumps are smoothed out.  It's still not quite as smooth as I'd like it, but it will smooth itself out when it softens up in next year's thaw.

Hi Kathy,                 18 May 2018

Are you saying it hasn't thawed out yet? It was over 100° f here today; nothing frozen in sight.

Best Always, Love,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 18, 2018, 07:02:36 PM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 18, 2018, 06:58:34 PM
Hi Kathy,                 18 May 2018

Are you saying it hasn't thawed out yet? It was over 100° f here today; nothing frozen in sight.

Best Always, Love,
Christine
LOL.  No, this year's thaw is over and done with, thankfully.  But now I'll have to wait for it to freeze again next winter and re-thaw for it to soften up again.  When the top 4 inches is thawed and everything below that is still frozen so the moisture can't drain, it gets soupy.  Smooths right out.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 18, 2018, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 18, 2018, 07:02:36 PM
LOL.  No, this year's thaw is over and done with, thankfully.  But now I'll have to wait for it to freeze again next winter and re-thaw for it to soften up again.  When the top 4 inches is thawed and everything below that is still frozen so the moisture can't drain, it gets soupy.  Smooths right out.

Hi Kathy,                   18 May 2018

It's Booty Head again. So you don't have "Permafrost" up that-a-way? We have "PermaMelt" due to lack of frost. How deep is the frost line up your way? I think ours is maybe 2 inches in a bad winter.

Allison has noticed the same thing I have and that is Cassi is missing; she hasn't been active since 03 May 18. Hope she's just on vacation having a ball.

Best Always,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 18, 2018, 10:28:40 PM
Good catch Christine. Haven't seen cassi in a while. I think I have her email. I'll check
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 19, 2018, 07:03:50 AM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 18, 2018, 07:18:42 PMSo you don't have "Permafrost" up that-a-way? We have "PermaMelt" due to lack of frost. How deep is the frost line up your way? I think ours is maybe 2 inches in a bad winter.
We're north, but not north enough to have permafrost.  (In fact, with climate change, even the far north is losing its permafrost.)  According to the building codes, the official frost line is 4 feet.

I didn't know that y'all even got frost down that way.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 07:54:58 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 19, 2018, 07:03:50 AM
We're north, but not north enough to have permafrost.  (In fact, with climate change, even the far north is losing its permafrost.)  According to the building codes, the official frost line is 4 feet.

I didn't know that y'all even got frost down that way.

Good Morning Kathy,               19 May 2018

I am originally from Ohio, though I don't recall where that is; I think the frost line there is about like yours. Since you are costal, I thought it would be less than 4 feet. My sewer line from the house is less that 2 feet deep; when it gets close to the road it takes a 45° dive to the main line which is about 14 feet below.

My irrigation lines are about 12 inches below ground level. This past winter, for the first time, I had pipes freeze and break, all above ground. I have a tree nursery with an above ground irrigation system. I neglected to drain it and ended up with two breaks. Had to replace a manifold and a small section of a supply line; about 20 minutes work. That is the upside of an above ground system, easier to work on.

From the photos of you working on your 800 mile driveway, the weather looked quite mild. Our winters have been getting worse over the past several years. When I relocated to the Dallas Fort Worth area 40 years ago, I rarely ever had to wear a jacket. Spring usually arrived mid February; now it has been showing up mid March or later, and this year the really warm weather didn't show up on a consistent basis until about two weeks ago. Yesterday I finally saw 101° f for the first time this year. If that keeps up, I'll be able to ride my bike regularly.

The odd thing here is that when the temp gets below 70° f, we get frost on our windows.

Stay warm up that-a-way.

Best Always, Love,
Christine

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 08:06:35 AM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 07:54:58 AM

The odd thing here is that when the temp gets below 70° f, we get frost on our windows.


You would be surprised how many Ohio Yankees believe that ridiculous statement. It's always good for a laugh afterwards.

Luego,
Christine
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 08:47:43 AM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 07:54:58 AM
Good Morning Kathy,               19 May 2018

I am originally from Ohio, though I don't recall where that is; I think the frost line there is about like yours. Since you are costal, I thought it would be less than 4 feet. My sewer line from the house is less that 2 feet deep; when it gets close to the road it takes a 45° dive to the main line which is about 14 feet below.

My irrigation lines are about 12 inches below ground level. This past winter, for the first time, I had pipes freeze and break, all above ground. I have a tree nursery with an above ground irrigation system. I neglected to drain it and ended up with two breaks. Had to replace a manifold and a small section of a supply line; about 20 minutes work. That is the upside of an above ground system, easier to work on.

From the photos of you working on your 800 mile driveway, the weather looked quite mild. Our winters have been getting worse over the past several years. When I relocated to the Dallas Fort Worth area 40 years ago, I rarely ever had to wear a jacket. Spring usually arrived mid February; now it has been showing up mid March or later, and this year the really warm weather didn't show up on a consistent basis until about two weeks ago. Yesterday I finally saw 101° f for the first time this year. If that keeps up, I'll be able to ride my bike regularly.

The odd thing here is that when the temp gets below 70° f, we get frost on our windows.

Stay warm up that-a-way.

Best Always, Love,
Christine

I was in the DFW area, then Archer, up toward Wichita, in January 2014, and it was 20F. After driving in from Florida, that was immensely brutal.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 09:15:59 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 08:47:43 AM
I was in the DFW area, then Archer, up toward Wichita, in January 2014, and it was 20F. After driving in from Florida, that was immensely brutal.

Stephanie

Hi Stephanie,                 19 May 2018

I haven't kept close  track of our weather over the last few years; our winters have generally become colder. On 14 Feb 2010 we had 14 inches of snow. That was more snow than the total for the previous 32 years. We haven't had as many 100+ degree days the last few years. I like it HOT; don't do well when it's below 85°.

Best Always, Blue side up,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 09:19:11 AM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 09:15:59 AM
Hi Stephanie,                 19 May 2018

I haven't kept close  track of our weather over the last few years; our winters have generally become colder. On 14 Feb 2010 we had 14 inches of snow. That was more snow than the total for the previous 32 years. We haven't had as many 100+ degree days the last few years. I like it HOT; don't do well when it's below 85°.

It's apparent we shall never meet, then. I don't do well when it's above 85F.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 09:43:28 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 09:19:11 AM
It's apparent we shall never meet, then. I don't do well when it's above 85F.


- Stephanie

Hi again Stephanie,                   19 May 2018

I thought Florida was hot and humid. I was stationed in KW 1963 - 1964. Winter there was miserable, cold and damp.

Just come here early spring, which may be over here for this year or mid Fall.

In 1980 we had about 67 days of over 100°, the only rain was virga; you can see it coming down but it evaporates before it hits the ground.

I know you already knew about virga; just wanted others that didn't know to understand what it is. For those interested, Wikipedia has a nice article on Virga.  LINK:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virga

We have air shows here; let me know if you plan to attend one. I'd like to meet you.

Best Always,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 10:12:26 AM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 09:43:28 AM
Hi again Stephanie,                   19 May 2018

I thought Florida was hot and humid. I was stationed in KW 1963 - 1964. Winter there was miserable, cold and damp.

Just come here early spring, which may be over here for this year or mid Fall.

In 1980 we had about 67 days of over 100°, the only rain was virga; you can see it coming down but it evaporates before it hits the ground.

I know you already knew about virga; just wanted others that didn't know to understand what it is. For those interested, Wikipedia has a nice article on Virga.  LINK:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virga

We have air shows here; let me know if you plan to attend one. I'd like to meet you.

Yikes. Key West is fun to visit but I don't think I'd want to live there - for the weather anyway. They're extremely tolerant of alternate lifestyles, which includes anything LGBT etc., which is nice. Otherwise, as you say, too humid, though it's only a little better here in central Florida.

Virga has got to be weird. Every drop of rain makes it to the ground here. The better to raise the humidity, my dear.

TBH, after 30-some years of attending Sun-N-Fun and Oshkosh, I'm pretty much airshowed-out. Unless something outrageous is going on, I tend to ignore them now. But it would still be cool to meet you. I have a friend in the DFW area, another in the San Antonio area, one down in Carrizo Springs near Laredo, and another in Orange on the Louisiana border, all part of my flying, building, or repairing ultralights past. (As far as I know, none of them know of my transition yet, though I'm finding that word does get around our little world.) If I ever get out your way, I'll sure check in.


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 12:03:36 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 10:12:26 AM
TBH, after 30-some years of attending Sun-N-Fun and Oshkosh, I'm pretty much airshowed-out. Unless something outrageous is going on, I tend to ignore them now. But it would still be cool to meet you. I have a friend in the DFW area, another in the San Antonio area, one down in Carrizo Springs near Laredo, and another in Orange on the Louisiana border, all part of my flying, building, or repairing ultralights past. (As far as I know, none of them know of my transition yet, though I'm finding that word does get around our little world.) If I ever get out your way, I'll sure check in.

- Stephanie

Stephanie,        19 May 2018

Please do, it will be an honor to meet you. If you "be a headin" this way before I get around to sending you my info, Dena and Devlyn know how to contact me.

Best Always, love,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 12:34:44 PM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 12:03:36 PM
Stephanie,        19 May 2018

Please do, it will be an honor to meet you. If you "be a headin" this way before I get around to sending you my info, Dena and Devlyn know how to contact me.

Cool. Hey, maybe we could schedule a trip to Austin for selfies with the governor before we use the women's restrooms!


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 12:34:44 PM
Cool. Hey, maybe we could schedule a trip to Austin for selfies with the governor before we use the women's restrooms!

- Stephanie

I'll do it; I just don't present as a female even though I wear women's clothes. I stick with jeans, slacks and shirts that could be either except for the colors which are almost always obviously female. I wear a lot of pink, lavender, purple and fuchsia. The only person to ever say anything was my favorite "femailman;" she called it my "sissy-girl" T-shirt, which was a light pink. At the time she didn't know I was transgender. I had a hard time convincing her I was. I pulled out the lace strap of the cami I was wearing and she still didn't believe me. The next day I let her read my counselor's letter. I think she was finally convinced I wasn't BSing her.

After my orchie, which I told her about, I suggested that now that I'm a woman we can go out shopping, lunch or whatever and your husband shouldn't mind because I'm just one of the girls.

Outing has been such fun. I have another coming up on the 25th. I'll let everyone know how that goes. I don't worry about my buddies wife or kids, just not sure how he will react. I think he'll be ok with it; I'm sure I'll take a lot of ribbing for a while. At this stage of my life my skin is quite thick and weather beaten. Too many years at sea (6.5).

We better move this conversation to another thread; we are occupying too much space on Kathy's Journey. Lets move over to yours or mine. Sorry for the intrusion Kathy. PM me with where you want to go.

Best Always,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 19, 2018, 04:50:51 PM
Quote from: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 07:54:58 AM
The odd thing here is that when the temp gets below 70° f, we get frost on our windows.
Hey, I don't relate to Fahrenheit temperatures.  70° F could be below freezing for all I know.

Quote from: christinej78 on May 19, 2018, 02:13:29 PMSorry for the intrusion Kathy.
It's okay, you'd lost me when you started talking about 'f'-ing temperatures.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 19, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
I'm with you Kathy. I don't understand those funny F temperatures. I always need to consult google to translate the numbers to C, which makes so much more sense to me! [emoji12]

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 19, 2018, 05:40:17 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 19, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
I'm with you Kathy. I don't understand those funny F temperatures. I always need to consult google to translate the numbers to C, which makes so much more sense to me! [emoji12]

Jayne

I so wish we'd converted in the 1970's when it was tried here. We actually had km on road signs for a short while. In any case, I just remember these and extrapolate:

212F=100C water boils.
85F=30C too hot to work, bring me an ice tea/beer.
72F=20C reasonable room temperature.
32F=0C water freezes.
-40 same for both (too dang cold).

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 19, 2018, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 19, 2018, 04:50:51 PM
Hey, I don't relate to Fahrenheit temperatures.  70° F could be below freezing for all I know.
It's okay, you'd lost me when you started talking about 'f'-ing temperatures.

Too funny Kathy. I speak both official languages. English and metric, too many years traveling between Canada and the US.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 20, 2018, 05:46:01 PM
Feeling some dysphoria today over my moustache.  A while back, I did several sessions of laser, the last one being 14 months ago.  I stopped over concerns that E was making my skin light-sensitive and that the laser was causing new freckles.  But, for the last year, I have been coasting with essentially no dark hairs on my face: when I grow it out for electrolysis, the white hairs haven't been terribly noticeable.

Until now.  As we all know, laser is not permanent, and the dark hairs have finally woken up again.  For the last few weeks, the shadow on my upper lip has been getting darker, even with the closest shave I can manage.  So it's time to get it zapped again (electrolysis).  Which means growing it out for three days, when it is already uncomfortably visible.  Aargh!

I've been doing electro for nearly a year and a half, probably close to 75 hours now.  I so wish it was done!  We are making progress.  My cheeks and neck are about a 180 grit instead of a 60 grit.  But there is still quite a way to go.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on May 20, 2018, 06:52:22 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 20, 2018, 05:46:01 PM
Feeling some dysphoria today over my moustache.  A while back, I did several sessions of laser, the last one being 14 months ago.  I stopped over concerns that E was making my skin light-sensitive and that the laser was causing new freckles.  But, for the last year, I have been coasting with essentially no dark hairs on my face: when I grow it out for electrolysis, the white hairs haven't been terribly noticeable.

Until now.  As we all know, laser is not permanent, and the dark hairs have finally woken up again.  For the last few weeks, the shadow on my upper lip has been getting darker, even with the closest shave I can manage.  So it's time to get it zapped again (electrolysis).  Which means growing it out for three days, when it is already uncomfortably visible.  Aargh!

I've been doing electro for nearly a year and a half, probably close to 75 hours now.  I so wish it was done!  We are making progress.  My cheeks and neck are about a 180 grit instead of a 60 grit.  But there is still quite a way to go.

Hi Kathy,                          20 May 2018

Sometime last year I went to an executioner for hair removal. I had been having my body waxed totally about twice each year. I then dcided I'd try electrolysis for my pubic area due to the difficulty in finding people that will do a male Brazilian.

I found a person that would do the electrolysis I wanted. I did three sessions and then stopped to see how it would look after a couple of months. To my surprise, the hair returned darker and thicker than ever. I went back to waxing.

After that experience I thought about having electrolysis on the area of my melon that is balding thinking if it made my pubes come back thicker than ever, why wouldn't it do the same for my head. Have yet to try it.

I did have my pubes, chest and back waxed the week before my orchie. I started HRT two weeks prior to the waxing and have noticed the hair that is returning is very thin, sparse and not growing as fast as it used to.

The last time I quit shaving my head was just before the orchi. I had been shaving it for 14 years;. It is growing nice and thick everywhere except the top of my head, which looks like an under nourished weed patch. I'm going to allow it to grow a good while longer to see if the magic mushrooms will cause a revival of the long dormant (hopefully) follicles on top.

If you were to see my ears when in full bloom, you'd think the hair from my head relocated itself inside my ears. I can see where the hair seeds may have gotten into my ears and germinated causing this problem. It's a tough one to deal with; I pluck, have them waxed, nothing I've tried works for very long. This may be a case for a super defoliant.

Best Always,
Christine 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 20, 2018, 08:50:58 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 20, 2018, 05:46:01 PM
Feeling some dysphoria today over my moustache.  A while back, I did several sessions of laser, the last one being 14 months ago.  I stopped over concerns that E was making my skin light-sensitive and that the laser was causing new freckles.  But, for the last year, I have been coasting with essentially no dark hairs on my face: when I grow it out for electrolysis, the white hairs haven't been terribly noticeable.

Until now.  As we all know, laser is not permanent, and the dark hairs have finally woken up again.  For the last few weeks, the shadow on my upper lip has been getting darker, even with the closest shave I can manage.  So it's time to get it zapped again (electrolysis).  Which means growing it out for three days, when it is already uncomfortably visible.  Aargh!

I've been doing electro for nearly a year and a half, probably close to 75 hours now.  I so wish it was done!  We are making progress.  My cheeks and neck are about a 180 grit instead of a 60 grit.  But there is still quite a way to go.
You and I are at the same stage with electrolysis. I am at approximately 75 hours also. The moustache and goatee area are the worse. There is so much hair there, and it's also the most sensitive area to zap, especially the middle upper lip. The good thing with electrolysis is that it is permanent. Whatever gets zapped won't be coming back, so hang in there.

I learnt something interesting about electrolysis at my last session. Apparently there is a technique to remove grey hairs without killing the follicle and the hair grows back with colour. My electrologist has a client she has been treating 2 or 3 times a year for years. She zaps the grey hairs on her head with a reduced power setting and the hair grows back with colour. This client is a cis woman in her 60's without a grey hair on her head and no hair dye.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 21, 2018, 07:24:32 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 20, 2018, 08:50:58 PMThe moustache and goatee area are the worse. There is so much hair there, and it's also the most sensitive area to zap, especially the middle upper lip.
I have a very understanding dentist, so I actually like getting my lip done, because I feel nothing!

QuoteApparently there is a technique to remove grey hairs without killing the follicle and the hair grows back with colour.

OK, that's weird!  I know that's not what's happening here, because she cranks up the wattage to max for that area, to the point where she has to be careful not to cook my skin.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on May 21, 2018, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 20, 2018, 05:46:01 PM
Feeling some dysphoria today over my moustache.  A while back, I did several sessions of laser, the last one being 14 months ago.  I stopped over concerns that E was making my skin light-sensitive and that the laser was causing new freckles.  But, for the last year, I have been coasting with essentially no dark hairs on my face: when I grow it out for electrolysis, the white hairs haven't been terribly noticeable.

Until now.  As we all know, laser is not permanent, and the dark hairs have finally woken up again.  For the last few weeks, the shadow on my upper lip has been getting darker, even with the closest shave I can manage.  So it's time to get it zapped again (electrolysis).  Which means growing it out for three days, when it is already uncomfortably visible.  Aargh!

I've been doing electro for nearly a year and a half, probably close to 75 hours now.  I so wish it was done!  We are making progress.  My cheeks and neck are about a 180 grit instead of a 60 grit.  But there is still quite a way to go.

I have run out of money for Electrolysis at the moment but I have very little left anyway. I did buy a facial epilator that I used with excellent results to remove the small amount I currently have. The majority is vellus hair with the odd second or third growth beard hair. I had a great result with laser and have found a certain amount of the dark stuff has never returned but I still have a few hairs left that I treat every once in awhile.

I will go back to Electrolysis to just finish off the stragglers. The grow out for me was always the hardest part but you will get to the point that even with a three or 4 day growth it will be very difficult for anyone to see any beard growth. It was taking me 7 days to get it long enough when I finally finished up with my electrologist.


I am not sure what 180 grit or 60 grit is but 120 difference sounds like a real improvement? Hang in there and I am sure it will happen for you. Dysphoria sucks no matter what the cause and it never a good day when you are feeling it.


Take Care

Liz

Liz 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 22, 2018, 03:06:23 PM
Quote from: ElizabethK on May 21, 2018, 09:17:09 PM
I am not sure what 180 grit or 60 grit is but 120 difference sounds like a real improvement?
Grades of sandpaper.  Yes, there is a real improvement, but it's still sandpaper.

I was at the electrocutioner today, with a fresh dental block for the pain.  I actually fell aslepp during the electrolysis!  She said she has has clients fall asleep before, but never while doing the upper lip.  We were having so much fun that we went half an hour over my appointment time.

The 'stache should be good for another couple of months.

Now I'm sitting here with an ice pack on my lip to bring the swelling down.  On the way home from my appointment, I stopped for gas and a much-needed bathroom break.  If anyone had mentioned my fat lip, I was all set to tell them that my boyfriend smacked me.  >:-)  Well, I probably wouldn't have, but the thought occurred to me.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 22, 2018, 05:36:33 PM
Nice going with the falling asleep, Kathy. The dental block sounds like it works well, how long before it wears off? 1.5 hours sounds like a long time. I can't wait to be done with the electrolysis. Now that I am starting to see real progress, with an end in sight, I want it to be finished already!

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 22, 2018, 06:20:20 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on May 22, 2018, 05:36:33 PM
Nice going with the falling asleep, Kathy. The dental block sounds like it works well, how long before it wears off? 1.5 hours sounds like a long time. I can't wait to be done with the electrolysis. Now that I am starting to see real progress, with an end in sight, I want it to be finished already!

Jayne
The dentist was finished with me at 1:55.  I was at the electrologist by 2:20, and we finished at 3:45.  So it lasted at almost full strength for nearly two hours.  There was one patch under my right nostril that was starting to wake up, but still numb enough that she didn't have to stop.  It took until about 7:00 for all the freezing to come out.

The hard part is synchronizing the appointments.  The dentist is doing this on the side, at no charge to me.  So she tries to fit me in between paying appointments.  There is no guarantee that she can see me when we plan to.  I need to give her enough time to freeze me up good, which takes about 15 minutes, and leave enough time to have a bathroom break (not optional; thanks, spiro!) and then drive 20 minutes to the electrologist.  But I can't leave too much time between the appointments or the freezing will start to wear off in the most sensitive areas before the end of the electro session.  It got a little dicey today, and I was 5 minutes late for the electro session.

Still, having that hair gone, even if it is only for a few months, is worth the effort.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 22, 2018, 06:20:39 PM
Nice Kathy. One day the last little pesky hair will die and you will be free of them. Hope the lip feels better soon
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 22, 2018, 06:28:10 PM
I have been lucky enough to cope without freezing my face so far. I will keep pushing the envelope until I can't take it anymore. Although, my last session was much less sensitive than previously. Maybe the new growth coming through is easier to kill.

Quote from: KathyLauren on May 22, 2018, 06:20:20 PM
Still, having that hair gone, even if it is only for a few months, is worth the effort.
Yeah, it's a nice feeling to feel fine sandpaper instead of the course stuff. One of these days it won't be sandpaper at all.
You and I are at about the same stage with our progress. I'll race ya to the finish line....[emoji12] (just kidding!)

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 23, 2018, 05:39:46 PM
On Friday, we are going to the town where my wife's parents lived, for her father's memorial service.  (He died in January, but the burial of the ashes was delayed until spring.)  There will probably be about 50 people there.  My wife is not close to all of them, so some will know about me and some won't.  Some are serious church-goers, and some aren't.

It's going to be interesting.  From looking over my wife's "cheat sheet" on who is who and what they're like, there's probably only one guy I need to be careful of.  I'm sure no one will be overtly rude (she said hopefully).  We are invited to a cousin's house afterwards, so I'll have to be sociable.  I don't do well in social settings of more than four people.

We both want to wear skirts, but the weather may make slacks more practical: it's supposed to be cool and showery.  We aren't wearing all-black, which is a relief.  I like being colourful.

I'm a bit nervous, but I am optimistic that all will be fine.  Worst case, we'll mess with a few people's heads, which can be fun.  Of course, I will report back on how it went.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 23, 2018, 05:54:37 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 23, 2018, 05:39:46 PM
On Friday, we are going to the town where my wife's parents lived, for her father's memorial service.  (He died in January, but the burial of the ashes was delayed until spring.)  There will probably be about 50 people there.  My wife is not close to all of them, so some will know about me and some won't.  Some are serious church-goers, and some aren't.

It's going to be interesting.  From looking over my wife's "cheat sheet" on who is who and what they're like, there's probably only one guy I need to be careful of.  I'm sure no one will be overtly rude (she said hopefully).  We are invited to a cousin's house afterwards, so I'll have to be sociable.  I don't do well in social settings of more than four people.

We both want to wear skirts, but the weather may make slacks more practical: it's supposed to be cool and showery.  We aren't wearing all-black, which is a relief.  I like being colourful.

I'm a bit nervous, but I am optimistic that all will be fine.  Worst case, we'll mess with a few people's heads, which can be fun.  Of course, I will report back on how it went.


Kathy:   Wishing you well on Friday....   seeing hometown people that have known you as your old male self can be quite nerve-wracking for sure.    Just ignore any rudeness, hold your head high and move on.   Having your wife with you will be a good thing but be certain that you can be aware if she is getting any rude comments directed at her because of you....   that would not be good for the rude person.... being punched by a trans-woman in a dress.
Hugs,
Danielle

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 23, 2018, 06:03:12 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on May 23, 2018, 05:54:37 PM

Kathy:   Wishing you well on Friday....   seeing hometown people that have known you as your old male self can be quite nerve-wracking for sure.    Just ignore any rudeness, hold your head high and move on.   Having your wife with you will be a good thing but be certain that you can be aware if she is getting any rude comments directed at her because of you....   that would not be good for the rude person.... being punched by a trans-woman in a dress.
Hugs,
Danielle
Thanks, Danielle. 

It is not my home town.  While I have met a couple of these rellies as my old self, most will be strangers to me.  They will know that my wife married a man, and will find out that that is no longer the case.

As for doing any punching, my wife is a bit of a dragon lady.  She has nice fangs, and can take care of herself and look out for me without working up a sweat.  You are right, it would not be good for the rude person!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 24, 2018, 11:46:48 AM
I have gotten the impression that people here, being so polite, are afraid to talk to me about my transition.  So I've been kind of on the lookout for conversational opportunities to raise the subject myself.

Today at community coffee, the conversation drifted to how having kids at a later age was not a good thing, and some wished they had had their kids at a younger age.  (We were at the women's end of the table, so an all-female discussion.)  After everyone but me had voiced their agreement, I dived in.  I told them that, when I started on hormones, the doctor had warned me that it would make me sterile, and was I okay with that.  I told them that my response was, "At 62 years of age, believe me, I am SO okay with it!" 

A mildly amusing anecdote that fit in with the subject.  But, more to the point, it let them know that I am okay with talking about my transition if they have questions.  They immediately wanted to know how estrogen affected me emotionally, commented on how nice my skin was, etc.

It felt good.  I don't want to feel like I am hiding any more, and I don't want others to think that either.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 24, 2018, 12:55:06 PM
Kathy you just keep On being you. You don't have any reasons to doubt yourself or your reasons. It's just great to be natural about the whole thing. Enjoy the chats and if you help even one more person understand it's a win all around
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on May 24, 2018, 04:36:02 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 24, 2018, 11:46:48 AM
I have gotten the impression that people here, being so polite, are afraid to talk to me about my transition.  So I've been kind of on the lookout for conversational opportunities to raise the subject myself.

........  I told them that, when I started on hormones, the doctor had warned me that it would make me sterile, and was I okay with that.  I told them that my response was, "At 62 years of age, believe me, I am SO okay with it!" 

A mildly amusing anecdote that fit in with the subject.  But, more to the point, it let them know that I am okay with talking about my transition if they have questions.  They immediately wanted to know how estrogen affected me emotionally, commented on how nice my skin was, etc.

It felt good.  I don't want to feel like I am hiding any more, and I don't want others to think that either.

Kathy, good move in bringing up the topic, especially in a woman's only group discussion. In the three years of transitioning that Deb and I have been journeying through, very few friends are open or risky enough to ask for specifics. While I definitely don't want to dominate conversations focusing on myself and appreciate their sensitivity on such a touchy subject, I am surprised that so many folks aren't willing to express their curiosity about such major changes going on in our lives. I hope that you have opened the door enough with these ladies to allow them to continue the dialog and their education. Please keep us up on any progress on this front.

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 24, 2018, 10:06:00 PM
I have found the opposite. I've had lots of questions from a true willingness. I have had three questions that flat out were offensive but I'm too happy to care about those people hurting my feelings
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 25, 2018, 06:21:51 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 23, 2018, 05:39:46 PM
On Friday, we are going to the town where my wife's parents lived, for her father's memorial service. 

...

I'm a bit nervous, but I am optimistic that all will be fine.  Worst case, we'll mess with a few people's heads, which can be fun.  Of course, I will report back on how it went.
Well, it was a good service.  It poured with rain right up until the end of the ceremony.  There was a social gathering afterwards.

I met a whole mess of my wife's cousins, a couple of whom I'd met before as my old self.  Everyone was polite, most were better than polite.  The pastor was a young-ish fellow and seemed happy to chat with me. 

Nobody mentioned my transition in any context.  So, a total non-event.  Nothing to report.

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on May 25, 2018, 08:41:50 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 25, 2018, 06:21:51 PM
So, a total non-event.  Nothing to report.

Great!  Isn't that the way it's suppose to be?
Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 26, 2018, 06:34:14 AM
Quote from: JudiBlueEyes on May 25, 2018, 08:41:50 PM
Great!  Isn't that the way it's suppose to be?
Judi
Absolutely!

The boob fairy may have been sparing in her physical gifts to me, but she has been generous with the ease of my transition, a much more valuable gift.  I feel like I am leading a charmed life.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: HappyMoni on May 26, 2018, 07:03:12 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 24, 2018, 11:46:48 AM
I have gotten the impression that people here, being so polite, are afraid to talk to me about my transition.  So I've been kind of on the lookout for conversational opportunities to raise the subject myself.

Today at community coffee, the conversation drifted to how having kids at a later age was not a good thing, and some wished they had had their kids at a younger age.  (We were at the women's end of the table, so an all-female discussion.)  After everyone but me had voiced their agreement, I dived in.  I told them that, when I started on hormones, the doctor had warned me that it would make me sterile, and was I okay with that.  I told them that my response was, "At 62 years of age, believe me, I am SO okay with it!" 

A mildly amusing anecdote that fit in with the subject.  But, more to the point, it let them know that I am okay with talking about my transition if they have questions.  They immediately wanted to know how estrogen affected me emotionally, commented on how nice my skin was, etc.

It felt good.  I don't want to feel like I am hiding any more, and I don't want others to think that either.

Kathy,
   Hi Hon! I have found that I no longer want to talk about my transition as I once did. After all the time of secrets, it was once all I wanted to talk about. Now I am more comfortable leaving it an unemphasized topic. The only downside to this is, if someone knows or suspects I am trans, it is isolating and stiffling to conversation. People don't ask any questions for fear of asking the 'wrong' question. I also don't throw it out there for people since if they think I am cis, I don't get freakin misgendered. My patience for that is at an end. Good to see you doing so well.
Moni
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 26, 2018, 07:27:48 PM
Hi Kathy,

I'm just catching up on everyone's threads after being away for a few days. I'm glad the memorial was a non-event with regards to you being trans.

I know what you mean about people being so polite that the are often afraid to ask questions. As you know, my wife is from around your part of the world and every time we go back to visit, we are surprised at how polite (over polite?) people are. Especially coming from a big city. Nice work with helping to break the ice to make others more comfortable talking about your transition at the community coffee.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on May 27, 2018, 08:51:47 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 26, 2018, 06:34:14 AM
Absolutely!

The boob fairy may have been sparing in her physical gifts to me, but she has been generous with the ease of my transition, a much more valuable gift.  I feel like I am leading a charmed life.

Your not leaving out enough perfume and sparkles to attract the booby fairy 🧚‍♀️. They are elusive but once you hook one they will work wonders. I caught two, one for each side. Lol
I can't agree more that an easy transition is the best gift to receive
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on May 30, 2018, 03:00:10 AM
Quote from: Donna on May 27, 2018, 08:51:47 PM
Your not leaving out enough perfume and sparkles to attract the booby fairy 🧚‍♀️. They are elusive but once you hook one they will work wonders. I caught two, one for each side. Lol
I can't agree more that an easy transition is the best gift to receive

Perfume and sparkles...is that what I have been doing wrong!!....well I am sure I will soon remedy that... ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 30, 2018, 04:44:00 PM
My wife and I went for a drive to visit Annapolis Royal today.  We picked up some stuff in an antique shop, had a great lunch, and window shopped a bunch of stores before the tourist hordes descend next month.  There's a really cool novelty shop, where I found the perfect socks:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/902/28589021668_529b7b217c_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on May 31, 2018, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 30, 2018, 04:44:00 PM
My wife and I went for a drive to visit Annapolis Royal today.  We picked up some stuff in an antique shop, had a great lunch, and window shopped a bunch of stores before the tourist hordes descend next month.  There's a really cool novelty shop, where I found the perfect socks:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/902/28589021668_529b7b217c_b.jpg)
Nice socks!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 31, 2018, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 30, 2018, 04:44:00 PM
My wife and I went for a drive to visit Annapolis Royal today.  We picked up some stuff in an antique shop, had a great lunch, and window shopped a bunch of stores before the tourist hordes descend next month.  There's a really cool novelty shop, where I found the perfect socks:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/902/28589021668_529b7b217c_b.jpg)

Kathy ..... wow-whee, I love your socks that you acquired at the novelty shop. 
It is wonderful to go to the tourist locations a few weeks or more BEFORE the hordes of tourists come there....   much more enjoyable without bumping elbows with the crowds.

So, tell me, are you ever going to wear those socks again...  perhaps at work when you are wearing capris or shorts???
Thank you for keeping your interesting thread... interesting!!

Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 02, 2018, 06:15:28 PM
This weekend, I am attending a firefighters' convention.  You'd think the fire service would be a bastion of redneckism, and it is.  But there is something about the brotherhood/sisterhood of firefighters that makes them overlook anything other than what you can do.  If you can put out fires, you're okay.

Most of the attendees are in uniform, including me.  I'd love to wear something feminine, but the uniform gives me credibility.  And I have lieutenant stripes on my epaulets, which gives me more credibility.  I am learning, to my surprise, that I pass moderately well, though not 100%.  But in this environment, passing doesn't matter.  Any firefighter seeing the uniform and the stripes is going to know that my department thinks I can get the job done.  Even if they guess that I am trans, that is good enough for them.

It makes the convention a very safe place to be trans.  And it spreads some normalization among a rednecky group of people.  I can picture people going back to their departments and gossiping: "I saw this one female firefighter that I think was transgender, and she was a lieutenant!"  It will be a little easier for the next one.  (I am not the first trans firefighter in Nova Scotia.  I got advice from another one back before I went full-time, and she correctly predicted I would be fine.  So she and perhaps others already made my life easier.)

I also met up with some members of another fire department I served with pre-transition.  It's not the first time they have seen me as Kathy - I met tham already at last year's convention - and they are totally cool with me.  We caught up with the latest happenings over lunch.  It is nice to have the message reinforced that it is okay for me to be myself.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on June 02, 2018, 09:40:18 PM
That is great to see how well you are accepted. I am sure that you are carving out a channel for others to follow and certainly normalising the experience. As we assimilate further into our cultures it is always good for people to view you being trans as just another flavour of life.

"Any firefighter seeing the uniform and the stripes is going to know that my department thinks I can get the job done.  Even if they guess that I am trans, that is good enough for them."

I think you make an interesting point and one that many other industies could use in all sorts of situations..."It doesn't matter wether you are black, white, skinny, fat, trans, gay or hetrosexual if you can do the job none of the other stuff matters...we just need to instil that into the rest of the population. Congrats on succeding in this instance which could easily have been so different!!Sounds to me like you nailed it!!


Take care

Liz


PS. Love the socks !! ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 03, 2018, 04:25:10 PM
Another fun encounter at the firefighters' convention.  A former colleague was there with his wife.  I'd met the wife before, pre-transition.  I say hi to my colleague and he introduces me to his wife, "This is Kathy.  You've met her before."  She looked at me, puzzled.  I helped her out by saying, "I've changed a bit since then."  My friend then said, "You remember, Kathy Walker."  At which point, the light bulb went on and she knew who I was. 

Clearly my friend had told his wife about my transition.  I was probably the talk of the town for a week.  So once she got my full name, she made the connection.  But the fun thing is that I obviously passed.  She didn't clock me as trans, or she would have known right away who I was.  Yay for passing!

And another fun experience today, I went to my first ever baby shower, for our lesbian next-door neighbours, who are expecting their baby later this month.  I think the shower was a big deal for them.  A few years ago, they had run into some passive hostility in the community.  I think it meant a lot to them that 15 women got together to celebrate with them.

And I think they are relieved that I live next door, because they are no longer considered the weirdest couple in the community.  :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on June 03, 2018, 08:23:02 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 03, 2018, 04:25:10 PM
... At which point, the light bulb went on and she knew who I was. 

...But the fun thing is that I obviously passed.  She didn't clock me as trans, or she would have known right away who I was.  Yay for passing!
Well Duh!  Look at your photo.

A baby shower; you are certainly one of the girls now.  I'm sure it was as nice for you to be part of the festivities as it was for them to have you there supporting and celebrating.   
Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on June 03, 2018, 08:36:46 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 03, 2018, 04:25:10 PM
Another fun encounter at the firefighters' convention.  A former colleague was there with his wife.  I'd met the wife before, pre-transition.  I say hi to my colleague and he introduces me to his wife, "This is Kathy.  You've met her before."  She looked at me, puzzled.  I helped her out by saying, "I've changed a bit since then."  My friend then said, "You remember, Kathy Walker."  At which point, the light bulb went on and she knew who I was. 

Clearly my friend had told his wife about my transition.  I was probably the talk of the town for a week.  So once she got my full name, she made the connection.  But the fun thing is that I obviously passed.  She didn't clock me as trans, or she would have known right away who I was.  Yay for passing!

And another fun experience today, I went to my first ever baby shower, for our lesbian next-door neighbours, who are expecting their baby later this month.  I think the shower was a big deal for them.  A few years ago, they had run into some passive hostility in the community.  I think it meant a lot to them that 15 women got together to celebrate with them.

And I think they are relieved that I live next door, because they are no longer considered the weirdest couple in the community.  :D

Kathy   Yes, this is certainly a good news update and happy moments for you.  Kind of a rite of passage as a trans-woman and be accepted by other women... it must have been a wonderful affirmation for you. 
A month ago I wrote in my thread that I attended my first baby shower among lots of other women... #4 and I went there together.  We had so much fun. 
As a trans-woman it was a wonderful experience....  made me think of all the fun that men miss by not being included in these women only events!!!
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on June 04, 2018, 06:08:21 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 03, 2018, 08:36:46 PM
Kathy   Yes, this is certainly a good news update and happy moments for you.  Kind of a rite of passage as a trans-woman and be accepted by other women... it must have been a wonderful affirmation for you. 
A month ago I wrote in my thread that I attended my first baby shower among lots of other women... #4 and I went there together.  We had so much fun. 
As a trans-woman it was a wonderful experience....  made me think of all the fun that men miss by not being included in these women only events!!!
Hugs,
Danielle

Hi Kathy, Danielle,              04 June 2018


The following is not a criticism, it's a question that has been bugging me since I began my transition.

I see and hear many people in our community refer to ourselves as "Transwoman," "Transwomen." When do we, if ever, become just a Woman or just Women? As an example: "As a trans-woman it was a wonderful experience...."

Danielle, here is a direct quote from something you posted a while back, which I heartily agree with:

"It is my own experience that very few people have a negative reaction about my past as long as I dress and act responsibly and don't shove my trans-woman status in their face and make an issue out it.  Live and let live seems to be the rule here."


Are we not our own worst enemies by perpetuating our trans status and not referring to ourselves as who we really are? Is not continually referring to us as "Trans" not shoving it in societies face and or making an issue of it?

Sincerely with Love,
Christine

PS:

My Dogs now refer to me as Mom, not Transmom. Withholding food and treats works wonders; the way to a Dog's heart is through its stomach.

What's the first thing that bonds us to our Mum's; boob nectar.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on June 04, 2018, 06:27:42 PM
Quote from: christinej78 on June 04, 2018, 06:08:21 PM
Hi Kathy, Danielle,              04 June 2018


The following is not a criticism, it's a question that has been bugging me since I began my transition.

I see and hear many people in our community refer to ourselves as "Transwoman," "Transwomen." When do we, if ever, become just a Woman or just Women? As an example: "As a trans-woman it was a wonderful experience...."

Danielle, here is a direct quote from something you posted a while back, which I heartily agree with:

"It is my own experience that very few people have a negative reaction about my past as long as I dress and act responsibly and don't shove my trans-woman status in their face and make an issue out it.  Live and let live seems to be the rule here."


Are we not our own worst enemies by perpetuating our trans status and not referring to ourselves as who we really are? Is not continually referring to us as "Trans" not shoving it in societies face and or making an issue of it?

Sincerely with Love,
Christine

PS:

My Dogs now refer to me as Mom, not Transmom. Withholding food and treats works wonders; the way to a Dog's heart is through its stomach.

What's the first thing that bonds us to our Mum's; boob nectar.

@christinej78  ... You are correct in theory perhaps for those outside of the transgender and transsexual community, but here where a lot of MTF's gather, to avoid confusion, we are indeed trans-women and we will never be cis-women.

Here on the Forums because for many of us being a female is a brand new experience along with all the other related experiences that we were never a part of as our old male self we tend differentiate our life status.
 
The example that @KathyLauren and I raised was the fact that we were invited to a baby shower and we were treated just like any of the women there.  That was indeed a glorious, new, and self-affirming experience for us.   
Just like I did when I moved here as a female to start my female run business, I obviously did not make a point of announcing myself upon arrival as a transgender or transsexual women... particularly so in my very small conservative town.  I am most likely the only trans-woman that these townspeople have ever seen or met.  It was incumbent on me to make certain that when I did come out to the town that I had previously made a good impression as a good citizen.

Going back a couple months on my thread "The Hunted Prey" you will discover that I lived in my small town for over a year and a half before anyone ever knew that I was not born as a female.   I was very concerned how this small town would accept me and also concerned about the new friends and business clients that I had made.
There came a time that I had to come out, and that I wanted to come out for various reasons including dating and being tired of harboring my secret.   I wanted to be the one to announce it and not be the subject of possibly rude and demeaning small town gossip.  Since I came out to the town I have experienced overwhelming acceptance from almost everyone here.

I can't speak for @KathyLauren but this is how I feel about the issue that you brought up.

Any questions or comments, please contact me...
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 04, 2018, 08:15:10 PM
Quote from: christinej78 on June 04, 2018, 06:08:21 PM
When do we, if ever, become just a Woman or just Women?
In day-to-day activities, yes, I am just a woman when talking to someone else.  To myself, I still have to think "trans woman" because I am still learning.  And, when talking here about my adventures, well, just about everything I have to say is trans-related or I wouldn't be talking about it here, so I say trans woman, especially when distinguishing my experience from that of cis women.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on June 04, 2018, 09:19:34 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 03, 2018, 04:25:10 PM
Another fun encounter at the firefighters' convention.  A former colleague was there with his wife.  I'd met the wife before, pre-transition.  I say hi to my colleague and he introduces me to his wife, "This is Kathy.  You've met her before."  She looked at me, puzzled.  I helped her out by saying, "I've changed a bit since then."  My friend then said, "You remember, Kathy Walker."  At which point, the light bulb went on and she knew who I was. 

Clearly my friend had told his wife about my transition.  I was probably the talk of the town for a week.  So once she got my full name, she made the connection.  But the fun thing is that I obviously passed.  She didn't clock me as trans, or she would have known right away who I was.  Yay for passing!

And another fun experience today, I went to my first ever baby shower, for our lesbian next-door neighbours, who are expecting their baby later this month.  I think the shower was a big deal for them.  A few years ago, they had run into some passive hostility in the community.  I think it meant a lot to them that 15 women got together to celebrate with them.

And I think they are relieved that I live next door, because they are no longer considered the weirdest couple in the community.  :D

This I'm certain gave you a joyful feeling throughout your body and soul!

Hugs and smiles, Jess
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 04, 2018, 11:28:34 PM
Kathy, I very much enjoyed reading about your experience at the firefighters convention. You have demonstrated to the community that you are respected member of the team no matter what your gender is. You are making it easier for those wishing to follow in your footsteps. You are a wonderful role model in the community. Kudos to you!

The baby shower sounds like fun. I have yet to experience any girl only events. It is something I am looking forward to.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 08, 2018, 03:04:53 PM
Today, I had my weekly electrolysis appointment.  When preparing, I noticed that the hair on my cheek is getting noticeably sparse, so I prepared a larger than normal area for her to work on.  I wouldn't want her to run out, after all.  Fifty minutes into the session, she ran out of hairs to zap.  She ran out!!  How cool is that?

She thinks one more session on my upper lip might finish off that area.  ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on June 08, 2018, 03:09:39 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 08, 2018, 03:04:53 PM
Today, I had my weekly electrolysis appointment.  When preparing, I noticed that the hair on my cheek is getting noticeably sparse, so I prepared a larger than normal area for her.  Fifty minutes into the session, she ran out of hairs to zap.  She ran out!!  How cool is that?

She thinks one more session on my upper lip might finish off that area.  ;D

That's so awesome, Kathy! That's still a long way off for me, but after not shaving yesterday, I noticed a 1/4 inch (6mm) square bald spot on my upper lip. A tiny victory, but evidence at last that something's happening.


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 09, 2018, 05:09:37 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 08, 2018, 03:04:53 PM
Today, I had my weekly electrolysis appointment.  When preparing, I noticed that the hair on my cheek is getting noticeably sparse, so I prepared a larger than normal area for her to work on.  I wouldn't want her to run out, after all.  Fifty minutes into the session, she ran out of hairs to zap.  She ran out!!  How cool is that?

She thinks one more session on my upper lip might finish off that area.  ;D
Yay! Very cool indeed!!!
It's so nice when they run out of things to zap. It's real visible progress. I had a similar experience at my last session 3 weeks ago. Some new growth has come through since then but that gets zapped much easier than the older growth.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 11, 2018, 08:43:26 AM
Fun times!  My wife had to go into the bank to sign some papers, so I went across the street to wait in the high-end clothing store.  Oh, yes, they had nice stuff! 

When my wife came in to meet me, the proprietor asked if we were sisters!!!  She said we looked alike and sounded alike!

OK, she might have been BSing us to make a sale, but it was still fun and affirming.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on June 11, 2018, 05:04:42 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 11, 2018, 08:43:26 AM
Fun times!  My wife had to go into the bank to sign some papers, so I went across the street to wait in the high-end clothing store.  Oh, yes, they had nice stuff! 

When my wife came in to meet me, the proprietor asked if we were sisters!!!  She said we looked alike and sounded alike!

OK, she might have been BSing us to make a sale, but it was still fun and affirming.

Kathy..... oh so fun... how did your wife react to that comment??   
What were you and your wife's replies to the clerk???
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 11, 2018, 06:51:37 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 11, 2018, 05:04:42 PM
Kathy..... oh so fun... how did your wife react to that comment??   
What were you and your wife's replies to the clerk???
Danielle
TBH, we were stunned!  We certainly didn't expect that.  We looked at each other, chortled a bit, and then said, "Um, ... No.  We're married."  :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on June 11, 2018, 07:08:42 PM
  That was a good answer, Kathy.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 11, 2018, 07:40:13 PM
Oh that must have been fun!

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 13, 2018, 03:21:27 PM
Seems like everyone needs a car selfie.  Technically this isn't a selfie, since my wife took it.  But it is a car portrait.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1734/42064165914_fd6036b45b_b.jpg)

This is just a nice touristy pic of me on today's outing.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1752/42064166434_b884f35aac_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on June 13, 2018, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 13, 2018, 03:21:27 PM
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1752/42064166434_b884f35aac_b.jpg)

Beautiful, Kathy! You look great!

As for car pix, nuh-uh for me. The right side is my bad side. I need to go to the UK for decent car shots.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 13, 2018, 07:02:00 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 13, 2018, 03:21:27 PM
Seems like everyone needs a car selfie.  Technically this isn't a selfie, since my wife took it.  But it is a car portrait.

This is just a nice touristy pic of me on today's outing.
Ha! I was thinking the exact same thing that everyone needs a car selfie. (See my current avatar).

Nice tourist photo too. You are looking really good, Kathy.

Quote from: Steph2.0 on June 13, 2018, 04:40:02 PM
I need to go to the UK for decent car shots.
Stephanie, you could also come to Australia. I'll even let you borrow my car for the pic! [emoji16]

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on June 13, 2018, 07:19:12 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on June 13, 2018, 07:02:00 PM
Stephanie, you could also come to Australia. I'll even let you borrow my car for the pic! [emoji16]

Considering that I'd be upside AND backward, I don't think I should be driving.

I say let's expand the definition to include airplane pics. That I can do!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 13, 2018, 07:37:46 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on June 13, 2018, 07:19:12 PM
Considering that I'd be upside AND backward, I don't think I should be driving.

I say let's expand the definition to include airplane pics. That I can do!

Stephanie
Oh I didn't say you could drive! [emoji23] You can sit behind the wheel for a photo shoot!

Planes are cool and should always be included, but that won't help you with the selfie. The captain sits in the left seat, unless you are including a helicopter in the definition.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on June 13, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on June 13, 2018, 07:37:46 PMPlanes are cool and should always be included, but that won't help you with the selfie. The captain sits in the left seat, unless you are including a helicopter in the definition.

Oh, the sky is a lot bigger than the road, so I have time to take selfies from my good side. Here are me and Cassie over Crystal River as proof:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/6cf031f92bc5dde06630f1ed11ab60ee.heic)



Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on June 13, 2018, 08:30:06 PM
Car Selfie!!

It just so happens I took one today.

(https://i.imgur.com/x1xaq00.png)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on June 13, 2018, 10:34:55 PM
Quote from: Laurie on June 13, 2018, 08:30:06 PM
Car Selfie!!

Did someone say...
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/56b27eab9414348ab0b2e46f431f5024.jpg)

Car Selfie!!

@Laurie, @Jessica, and @Michelle_P heading for Astoria Pride last Friday.
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 13, 2018, 10:46:53 PM
Well I had better add mine to the list in case I change my profile pic!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/fea5ec4aefffef7296d18c0ebfcc7ac5.jpg)

Sorry Kathy. We are the turning your thread into a car selfie album.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 14, 2018, 07:04:33 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on June 13, 2018, 10:46:53 PM
Sorry Kathy. We are the turning your thread into a car selfie album.

Quote from: Steph2.0 on June 13, 2018, 07:19:12 PM
I say let's expand the definition to include airplane pics. That I can do!

No need to apologize, Jayne.  A car selfie album is a great idea.  And airplane pics are definitely acceptable, Stephanie.

You all look great, ladies!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on June 14, 2018, 08:13:51 AM
OK Kathy and all of your girls, it now it is my turn with the car selfie...  this pic is from a couple months ago before I cut my hair.   I miss my longer hair, I think I will start growing it out again soon.
Poppin' bubbles
Hugs, Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 14, 2018, 09:13:30 AM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 14, 2018, 08:13:51 AM
OK Kathy and all of your girls, it now it is my turn with the car selfie...  this pic is from a couple months ago before I cut my hair.   I miss my longer hair, I think I will start growing it out again soon.
Poppin' bubbles
Hugs, Danielle

Danielle, why did you cut your hair? It looks really good long. Love the bubble, adds a nice touch. [emoji16]

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: sarah1972 on June 14, 2018, 10:04:28 AM
I may be a minority here but I think your short hair looks really cute too.

The picture you posted looks awesome! Amazing how big of a bubble you can blow. Seems like you had a fun day!

I guess, I would have to get I to my car to participate - right now I only have Mall train and carousel selfies of me in moving objects. Hurray to being a soccer mom [emoji23][emoji23]

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 14, 2018, 08:13:51 AM
OK Kathy and all of your girls, it now it is my turn with the car selfie...  this pic is from a couple months ago before I cut my hair.   I miss my longer hair, I think I will start growing it out again soon.
Poppin' bubbles
Hugs, Danielle
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: sarah1972 on June 14, 2018, 04:23:49 PM
Nothing special, soccer mom on the run... but since this is now the car selfie thread.... with fresh cut & dyed hair...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/f740cba60eb64b88962a3894d56efa99.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on June 14, 2018, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: sarah1972 on June 14, 2018, 04:23:49 PM
Nothing special, soccer mom on the run... but since this is now the car selfie thread.... with fresh cut & dyed hair...

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/f740cba60eb64b88962a3894d56efa99.jpg)

@sarah1972
Dear Sarah
....  you are looking goo, Soccer Mom...
...or as you have previously called yourself... Hot Mama #2
Of course, your hair is looking magnificant... very nice indeed.
Thank you for sharing your car selfie.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on June 14, 2018, 05:39:35 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 14, 2018, 08:13:51 AM
OK Kathy and all of your girls, it now it is my turn with the car selfie...  this pic is from a couple months ago before I cut my hair.   I miss my longer hair, I think I will start growing it out again soon.
Poppin' bubbles
Hugs, Danielle


Too funny. Your just a really big kid at heart. 💗💕
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on June 14, 2018, 07:00:09 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 14, 2018, 08:13:51 AM
OK Kathy and all of your girls, it now it is my turn with the car selfie...  this pic is from a couple months ago before I cut my hair.   I miss my longer hair, I think I will start growing it out again soon.
Poppin' bubbles
Hugs, Danielle


OK Danielle,                   14 June 2018

I caught you young lady; I detect something fishy is Denmark; Alaska, aka "The North Pole," doesn't have green stuff a couple of months ago. My news source, CNN, says it is still covered in glaciers and other ice forms. Green won't appear until moss forms on the north side of the glaciers.

So what have you to say for yourself for spoofing us gringos down here in the original 58 states? By the way, I've been to all but 57.

You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to fool this old biddy way down here in Tejas.

Best Always, Love and try to stay warm,
Christine

PS:

That looks like Bazooka Bubble Gum?????
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on June 14, 2018, 07:15:54 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on June 13, 2018, 08:22:50 PM
Oh, the sky is a lot bigger than the road, so I have time to take selfies from my good side. Here are me and Cassie over Crystal River as proof:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180614/6cf031f92bc5dde06630f1ed11ab60ee.heic)

Stephanie

Hi Steph,                        14 June 2018

What are you flying? I cannot recognize it? You two look like you be having way too much fun. Wish I be there with you two gorgeous lady "Fly Girls."

Best Always, Love,
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on June 14, 2018, 07:32:13 PM
Quote from: christinej78 on June 14, 2018, 07:15:54 PM
Hi Steph,                        14 June 2018

What are you flying? I cannot recognize it? You two look like you be having way too much fun. Wish I be there with you two gorgeous lady "Fly Girls."

Hi Christine,

It's a Rans S-20 Raven I built. I am in fact just finishing it's first annual condition inspection right now. I'm sitting in the hangar next to it cooling off after reinstalling the cowl. Here I am doing the compression check:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180615/92c9ef360e1cf86b450ec15497fffd47.heic)

This is the finished product:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180615/a033068bbb13c4079bb7f348443a442b.jpg)

It's the best flying plane I've ever built. Unfortunately I built it in partnership with a friend and he bought me out. I still do the work for him and sometimes get temporary custody. I hope to be flying it this weekend.

Do you fly?

By the way, when I came out to a friend of mine he texted me with, "I am so envious! Do you know how badass the title "Aviatrix" is?

So I'm not just a Fly Girl, I'm a BAA: Bad Ass Aviatrix.

Oh, sorry Kathy. Another thread highjack...

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on June 14, 2018, 07:36:26 PM
Quote from: christinej78 on June 14, 2018, 07:00:09 PM
OK Danielle,                   14 June 2018

I caught you young lady; I detect something fishy is Denmark; Alaska, aka "The North Pole," doesn't have green stuff a couple of months ago. My news source, CNN, says it is still covered in glaciers and other ice forms. Green won't appear until moss forms on the north side of the glaciers.

So what have you to say for yourself for spoofing us gringos down here in the original 58 states? By the way, I've been to all but 57.

You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to fool this old biddy way down here in Tejas.

Best Always, Love and try to stay warm,
Christine

PS:

That looks like Bazooka Bubble Gum?????

@christinej78 ...   the trees you see are Evergreen Trees, meaning that they stay green all year long. Duh !!! 
Not Bazooka bubble gum, it is Double Bubble brand bubble gum.   As the shortest day of the year approaches where I live we have more than 22 hours of sun-up daylight and a  less than 2 hours of twilight... never gets dark.  The weather turned warmer like someone throwing a switch.
***edit/correction:   > Longest Day of the Year <
Thanks for your comment, I enjoy exchanging messages with and fooling "old biddys" especially in "Tejas"
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 14, 2018, 10:52:38 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 14, 2018, 07:36:26 PM
@christinej78 ...   the trees you see are Evergreen Trees, meaning that they stay green all year long. Duh !!! 
Not Bazooka bubble gum, it is Double Bubble brand bubble gum.   As the shortest day of the year approaches where I live we have more than 22 hours of sun-up daylight and a  less than 2 hours of twilight... never gets dark.  The weather turned warmer like someone throwing a switch.
Thanks for your comment, I enjoy exchanging messages with and fooling "old biddys" especially in "Tejas"
Hugs,
Danielle
Aaahh....Danielle...is the high latitude and perpetual daylight getting to you? With 22 hours of sunlight, I'm sure you intended to say the longest day of the year not the shortest. It will be the shortest day for me, down here in n the underside of the globe. [emoji56]

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on June 14, 2018, 11:05:01 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on June 14, 2018, 10:52:38 PM
Aaahh....Danielle...is the high latitude and perpetual daylight getting to you? With 22 hours of sunlight, I'm sure you intended to say the longest day of the year not the shortest. It will be the shortest day for me, down here in n the underside of the globe. [emoji56]

Hugs,
Jayne

@Jayne01  and  @christinej78    ...  OMG, I can not believe that I made that mistake....  of course it is the longest day of the year....  yep, sleep is becoming an issue with all the daylight.   Thank you Jayne for your most kind correction.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on June 14, 2018, 11:10:36 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 14, 2018, 11:05:01 PM
@Jayne01  and  @christinej78    ...  OMG, I can not believe that I made that mistake....  of course it is the longest day of the year....  yep, sleep is becoming an issue with all the daylight.   Thank you Jayne for your most kind correction.
Hugs,
Danielle

It may have also been a lack of oxygen after blowing that giant bubble gum bubble, leaving you light headed.

I'm just messing with you. [emoji23][emoji23]

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on June 14, 2018, 11:15:13 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on June 14, 2018, 07:32:13 PM
Hi Christine,

It's a Rans S-20 Raven I built. I am in fact just finishing it's first annual condition inspection right now. I'm sitting in the hangar next to it cooling off after reinstalling the cowl. Here I am doing the compression check:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180615/92c9ef360e1cf86b450ec15497fffd47.heic)

This is the finished product:

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It's the best flying plane I've ever built. Unfortunately I built it in partnership with a friend and he bought me out. I still do the work for him and sometimes get temporary custody. I hope to be flying it this weekend.

Do you fly?

By the way, when I came out to a friend of mine he texted me with, "I am so envious! Do you know how badass the title "Aviatrix" is?

So I'm not just a Fly Girl, I'm a BAA: Bad Ass Aviatrix.

Oh, sorry Kathy. Another thread highjack...

Stephanie

Hi Steph,                     14 June 2018

Gave it up; don't trust myself these days. I would if I had someone along that could fly and was familiar with the type. I have a hard time trusting myself walking these days; fall asleep quite easily and when I wake I haven't a clue how or where I got myself to. I actually have to go back to sleep so I can dream my way home. Funny what getting old does to a young gal; especially one going through puberty. What am I going to do when I have my first period?

Just saying that reminded me of my younger sister's first period. I was downstairs in the living room and unbeknownst to me, she was in the WC (Water Closet) taking a leak (I presume). All of a sudden there was a blood curdling scream from upstairs. My mom rushed to her aid, stayed a bit calming her down then came downstairs and informed me as to what happened. That was about 64 years ago and she still hasn't gotten over it. Maybe I should stop laughing about it when she's around. The good thing is we haven't seen each other in 12 years so that's one positive to our relationship; the second is she hasn't a clue she now has a sister. When she does find out I'm sure it will bust her balls... or whatever she has.

I'm assuming that's an air-park where you live. That is having your cake and eating it too. Living the dream.

The photo of you working on the plane would make a great avatar; you look Sexy, Hot and BA simultaneously.

Best Always, Love,
Christine

My favorite plane is the Cessna T-310 R. High workload, fast, heavy (smooth in rough air) and sexy.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 20, 2018, 07:48:00 PM
I got myself some nail polish and painted my toenails!
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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on June 20, 2018, 08:31:00 PM
Nice job!  I like the color.

Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 21, 2018, 07:07:00 AM
I was rummaging through old photos for something unrelated and came across my baby pictures.  Just for giggles, I thought I'd post one.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1808/42217900664_6a5ba197c4.jpg)

My mother is 29 in that photo.  The hairline looks familiar.  Add male pattern baldness and my hair never had a chance!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 23, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
My wife and I just got home from a beach party with six other trans women and one other spouse.  We rounded up enough driftwood for a small beach fire and some folks roasted marshmallows.  We had potato salad and went across the parking lot for ice cream.  Watched the tide com in about a quarter of a mile on the sandy beach. 

A nice relaxed evening, and a rare opportunity for some of the part-time ladies to get out as themselves.  No pics, because some of the ladies are a bit camera shy.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on June 23, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 23, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
My wife and I just got home from a beach party with six other trans women and one other spouse.  We rounded up enough driftwood for a small beach fire and some folks roasted marshmallows.  We had potato salad and went across the parking lot for ice cream.  Watched the tide com in about a quarter of a mile on the sandy beach. 

A nice relaxed evening, and a rare opportunity for some of the part-time ladies to get out as themselves.  No pics, because some of the ladies are a bit camera shy.

What a wonderful thing to do.  What fun!
It's okay there's no picture , I'm sure we will waive the rule
"If there isn't a picture, it didn't happen"

Hugs and smiles, Jess

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on June 23, 2018, 10:05:44 PM
  Hi Kathy,

  How do you all enjoy going to the beach in those heavy clothes. Did you have to get out the dog sleds to get through that frozen wasteland? I've see tide affect the ice on the shore. It creates a slippery slope that is hard to climb back up. How do you handle that? Do you just wait until high tide to even it back up?

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on June 23, 2018, 10:32:49 PM
It's really not that bad Laurie as long as we don't trip over our snow shoes in the sand on the beach. Heck my garden tractor has a snow plow on it to get a head start on the grass cutting
Lol
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 24, 2018, 08:15:22 AM
Quote from: Laurie on June 23, 2018, 10:05:44 PM
  Hi Kathy,

  How do you all enjoy going to the beach on those heavy clothes. Did you have to get out the dog sleds to get through that frozen wasteland? I've see tide affect the ice on the shore. It creates a slippery slope that is hard to climb back up. How do you handle that? Do you just wait until high tide to even it back up?

Hugs,
  Laurie

Speaking of a slippery slope, Laurie, just keep that up and we'll put you in our other refrigerator.  It is 3000 miles wide and gets down to -40.  :P
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on June 24, 2018, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 24, 2018, 08:15:22 AM
Speaking of a slippery slope, Laurie, just keep that up and we'll put you in our other refrigerator.  It is 3000 miles wide and gets down to -40.  :P

@KathyLauren   
@Donna   
@Laurie

OK now ladies, either I need some more coffee this morning to understand all that is being stated and what is going on with the last 3 reply comments .... or perhaps I should just crawl back under the nearest rock and go back to sleep... it is still early here.... not even 6:30am yet... so I just may do that, I was up very late last night.

Anyway it sounds like you three know the inside story and are having great fun at each other's expense  :) ::).... 
Even though it is a mystery to me and perhaps to others it is very nice to see that kind of fun comradeship.... you sound like very happy girls with your exchange of comments.

Hugs to all,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on June 24, 2018, 10:01:38 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on June 23, 2018, 07:28:14 PM
My wife and I just got home from a beach party with six other trans women and one other spouse.  We rounded up enough driftwood for a small beach fire and some folks roasted marshmallows.  We had potato salad and went across the parking lot for ice cream.  Watched the tide com in about a quarter of a mile on the sandy beach. 

A nice relaxed evening, and a rare opportunity for some of the part-time ladies to get out as themselves.  No pics, because some of the ladies are a bit camera shy.

Oh my gosh! Swimsuit?! I did that for the first time ever yesterday (see my thread). How cool you did too!

The water was probably waayy too cold for you, the the Florida Ocean was lovely and warm and I went in up to my neck. What I noticed immediately, and almost shockingly, is how different being submerged feels with shaved legs!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 24, 2018, 10:11:03 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on June 24, 2018, 10:01:38 AM
Oh my gosh! Swimsuit?!
No such luck.  While the person with the lorry exaggerates how cold it gets here in the summer, it was a cloudy day and definitely not warm enough to go in the water.   So no swimsuits in evidence.  Some sweaters and jackets, though.  If it had been warm enough for swimsuits, there would have been a lot of people on the beach, and me + swimsuits + other people just don't mix!

On a sunny day, the incoming tide over the warm sand would have been warm enough to wade in, but not nearly deep enough to swim in unless you went out half a mile or more.  With a wide, shallow slope to the beach and a tide that has a range of 50 feet, you have to walk briskly to keep ahead of the incoming tide.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on June 24, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
Swimsuit. Oh soon I hope but not there yet. I'll find one I like one of these days. Not a fan of pools so I'm waiting for the lake temperature to come up a bit more.
Kathy it sounds like you all had a very lovely time out together
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on June 24, 2018, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 24, 2018, 09:23:25 AM

@KathyLauren   
@Donna   
@Laurie

OK now ladies, either I need some more coffee this morning to understand all that is being stated and what is going on with the last 3 reply comments .... or perhaps I should just crawl back under the nearest rock and go back to sleep... it is still early here.... not even 6:30am yet... so I just may do that, I was up very late last night.

Anyway it sounds like you three know the inside story and are having great fun at each other's expense  :) ::).... 
Even though it is a mystery to me and perhaps to others it is very nice to see that kind of fun comradeship.... you sound like very happy girls with your exchange of comments.

Hugs to all,
Danielle


Lol, Danielle when you figure out the secret decoder ring password we can let you in. I just love the humour and conversations that go on around here.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on June 24, 2018, 02:46:02 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on June 24, 2018, 09:23:25 AM

@KathyLauren   
@Donna   
@Laurie

OK now ladies, either I need some more coffee this morning to understand all that is being stated and what is going on with the last 3 reply comments .... or perhaps I should just crawl back under the nearest rock and go back to sleep... it is still early here.... not even 6:30am yet... so I just may do that, I was up very late last night.

Anyway it sounds like you three know the inside story and are having great fun at each other's expense  :) ::).... 
Even though it is a mystery to me and perhaps to others it is very nice to see that kind of fun comradeship.... you sound like very happy girls with your exchange of comments.

Hugs to all,
Danielle


@Alaskan Danielle
@Donna
@KathyLauren

  Oh come now Danielle, who are you trying to kid? You are in the same boat as they are. Everyone knows that Canada is a frozen wasteland and the inhabitants therein use dog sleds to get around. I've heard that even the public transportation is comprised of just bigger dog sleds. The more affluent folk may own sleighs pulled by reindeer, aka caribou. It stands to reason that the beaches would be snow covered and the water capped with sea ice. (sea ice can be very treacherous to walk on.) Obviously bathing suites would be out of the question in such an environment. Right Kathy and Donna?
  Your feigning ignorance of these harsh conditions is but a rouse. Alaska is in the far north and could have even harsher conditions than those encountered by Kathy & Donna. You do an amazing job using Photoshop to alter those obviously fake hiking pictures. Why you would choose to do so is beyond my skills of comprehension. Perhaps it is to lure more unsuspecting clients to your business or more likely you do it to lure more prospective suitors to your lair. Whatever the reason you do make Alaska appear inviting.
  I hope this clears up the questions for those that did not understand what goes on in the northern environs.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on June 24, 2018, 10:29:25 PM
Be nice now my dear Laurie, we don't want to scare off Ms. Danielle. Play nice!

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on June 25, 2018, 05:54:41 PM
I love my bathing suit. It makes such a wonder full starting point for many layers of thermal wear, parkas and snow pants and if someone helps, my mits with strings so I don't loose them. But do sunscreen before you put your mits on or they get to slippery.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on June 30, 2018, 06:25:26 PM
It's a minor thing, but it still feels good.  My brother forwarded an email conversation to me.  Someone is planning to go to a Pride event in this region, but a couple of provinces over.

V: I'm going to be at PEI Pride this year.
P: You'll have to connect with [brother]'s sister [i.e. me] out there.
[brother]: Yes, I was thinking that.  I'll let her know that you're coming out to PEI - she's in NS.

It's a little odd to read that.  Like, Oh, wow, that's me they're talking about!  Nice, though.  :)

I probably won't go there to meet someone I don't really know.  It's a long drive.  But it gives me a warm fuzzy feeling that they think of me in the right gender.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on June 30, 2018, 06:42:01 PM
That's very nice Kathy. I can understand not wanting to meet a complete stranger though. Not my favourite thing either. Have a good time if you do end up going
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Megan. on June 30, 2018, 06:42:56 PM
That's great to see Kathy, lovely to see real acceptance. [emoji5]

I'm always a little curious how people gender me when I'm not in the room...

Sent from my MI 5s using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 01, 2018, 02:44:02 PM
This afternoon, my wife and I went out to celebrate Canada Day by going to the local ice cream stand.  It was a beautiful warm summer day with only a light breeze, so we dressed as proper ladies.  We went down to the harbour to see the craft fair, and bought some earrings.  This is my outfit.  The hat was a real find: I just got it last week.  It's the only one I've found that is big enough to wear over my wig. 

My wife wore a periwinkle sundress, with a similar-style hat in pink.  But she doesn't like having her picture taken.  We were the best-dressed ladies at the event, and got comments on it, too.  :)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/41325096750_838019c7f2_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on July 01, 2018, 03:00:31 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 01, 2018, 02:44:02 PM
This afternoon, my wife and I went out to celebrate Canada Day by going to the local ice cream stand.  It was a beautiful warm summer day with only a light breeze, so we dressed as proper ladies.  We went down to the harbour to see the craft fair, and bought some earrings.  This is my outfit.  The hat was a real find: I just got it last week.  It's the only one I've found that is big enough to wear over my wig. 

My wife wore a periwinkle sundress, with a similar-style hat in pink.  But she doesn't like having her picture taken.  We were the best-dressed ladies at the event, and got comments on it, too.  :)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/41325096750_838019c7f2_b.jpg)

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:  It was very nice to see your Canada Day update.... sounds like that you and your wife were a big hit, dressed all pretty and looking beautiful as your picture shows.

As you know, Wednesday July 4th is the USA's version of your holiday....  Independence Day... and as I had mentioned in my thread that I will be hosting a traditional July 4th celebration, potluck and BBQ ....   hot dogs, burgers, chili, chips and dips, raw veggies and dip, salads, lemonade, soda pop and perhaps some "adult" beverages.   I am not certain how many will come, but quite a few from my nearby coffee shop I am certain.... 
***....what worries me a little is that my remaining 3 suitors will probably be there  ....  hmmm..... I wonder how the cis-girls handle this kind of stuff???   Breaking others hearts are not something that I want to do.

Again, it was great to get your update and to see your wonderful picture.... your hat, blue top and white long skirt looked terrific on you.

Thank you for posting and keeping your followers and readers informed.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on July 01, 2018, 03:28:33 PM
Very pretty, Kathy! I love that skirt and the hat! You have very good taste.

It's too hot here to wear anything long. Shorts and short sleeved tops, sandals or flip-flops, and now that I've gotten over the fears of showing my shoulders, sleeveless tops and tanks!

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Today's uniform.


Aaaand... swimsuits! The US Independence Day is coming up on Wednesday, and it'll be time for a little pool party. Yay!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on July 01, 2018, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 01, 2018, 02:44:02 PM
This afternoon, my wife and I went out to celebrate Canada Day by going to the local ice cream stand.  It was a beautiful warm summer day with only a light breeze, so we dressed as proper ladies.  We went down to the harbour to see the craft fair, and bought some earrings.  This is my outfit.  The hat was a real find: I just got it last week.  It's the only one I've found that is big enough to wear over my wig. 

My wife wore a periwinkle sundress, with a similar-style hat in pink.  But she doesn't like having her picture taken.  We were the best-dressed ladies at the event, and got comments on it, too.  :)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/41325096750_838019c7f2_b.jpg)

Very nice Kathy 🌸🌸🌸 not only did you have a warm day in the north (not as far north as @Alaskan Danielle , who is in a pickle with her suitors) with your sweetheart enjoying life.  You also look lovely as you always do.  Keep living life without worries.

Hugs and smiles, Jess
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on July 01, 2018, 05:55:11 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 01, 2018, 02:44:02 PM
This afternoon, my wife and I went out to celebrate Canada Day by going to the local ice cream stand.  It was a beautiful warm summer day with only a light breeze, so we dressed as proper ladies.  We went down to the harbour to see the craft fair, and bought some earrings.  This is my outfit.  The hat was a real find: I just got it last week.  It's the only one I've found that is big enough to wear over my wig. 

My wife wore a periwinkle sundress, with a similar-style hat in pink.  But she doesn't like having her picture taken.  We were the best-dressed ladies at the event, and got comments on it, too.  :)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/41325096750_838019c7f2_b.jpg)
Hi Kathy,
Loving your style! I am not surprised you got some comments on how you were dressed, you look great! And happy too!!!

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on July 01, 2018, 06:28:04 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 01, 2018, 02:44:02 PM
This afternoon, my wife and I went out to celebrate Canada Day by going to the local ice cream stand.  It was a beautiful warm summer day with only a light breeze, so we dressed as proper ladies.  We went down to the harbour to see the craft fair, and bought some earrings.  This is my outfit.  The hat was a real find: I just got it last week.  It's the only one I've found that is big enough to wear over my wig. 

My wife wore a periwinkle sundress, with a similar-style hat in pink.  But she doesn't like having her picture taken.  We were the best-dressed ladies at the event, and got comments on it, too.  :)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1788/41325096750_838019c7f2_b.jpg)

That is a gorgeous looking outfit Kathy. Just love it
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on July 02, 2018, 09:55:44 AM
Hi Kathy,

I just love reading your journey. Not long ago it had so many hurdles that you were trying to navigate, things that seemed insurmountable, then magic happened and things changed from how to accomplish needs and somehow survive to now.......wow, look at that lady out living life so well! Your story is an encouragement to us all and you look so good in demonstrating it! Good going girl,

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 02, 2018, 10:10:07 AM
Thanks, ladies! :)  I am looking forward to seeing photos of pool parties and barbecues soon.  Winter fashion photos are also appropriate for those down under. ;)

I had some feedback from a member via PM that my photo made them feel bad.  That is never my intention.  This is not a zero-sum game.  My intention in posting pictures and the humdrum events of my life is to give hope to others: if I can make it to this place in my life, so can you.  My sincere wish is to help everyone reading my posts, in whatever way I can.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on July 02, 2018, 10:41:02 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 02, 2018, 10:10:07 AM
Thanks, ladies! :)  I am looking forward to seeing photos of pool parties and barbecues soon.  Winter fashion photos are also appropriate for those down under. ;)

I had some feedback from a member via PM that my photo made them feel bad.  That is never my intention.  This is not a zero-sum game.  My intention in posting pictures and the humdrum events of my life is to give hope to others: if I can make it to this place in my life, so can you.  My sincere wish is to help everyone reading my posts, in whatever way I can.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:  Please keep posting as you have been doing. I have very much enjoyed your success and happy moments that you share with all of us as you continue in your transition journey.   I am always looking for more updates from you.   I am happy to see that you are happy and for sure I love seeing your terrific pictures that you frequently post.

Hugs and Well Wishes.
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on July 08, 2018, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 02, 2018, 10:10:07 AM
Thanks, ladies! :)  I am looking forward to seeing photos of pool parties and barbecues soon.  Winter fashion photos are also appropriate for those down under. ;)

I had some feedback from a member via PM that my photo made them feel bad.  That is never my intention.  This is not a zero-sum game.  My intention in posting pictures and the humdrum events of my life is to give hope to others: if I can make it to this place in my life, so can you.  My sincere wish is to help everyone reading my posts, in whatever way I can.
Sorry to here this Kathy. It can be so frustrating trying to be positive  and show others what Is possible but their own dysphoria flares up over it. Your photos and comment are wonderful and please don't stop posting. Their is so
Much negativity in life that in here is the last place we should run into it, but it does happen.
Love you girl
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on July 08, 2018, 12:08:26 PM
Your photos are always lovely as are your comments.  Be you!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: davina61 on July 08, 2018, 02:24:29 PM
AH HO (I was going to say theres allways one but don't want to offend) . I look forward to your lovely photos and posts even if I just lurk .
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on July 08, 2018, 07:42:18 PM
I missed your lovely photo from earlier in your thread. You look great and sounds like you had a perfectly lovely day out just for good measure.

Take care

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 13, 2018, 06:51:54 AM
I haven't posted in a while, because nothing much has been happening.  Life carries on.

But I got an email this morning from a friend who is a regular vendor at a new farmer's market down the valley.  We went there the first day they were open, to see our friend, buy some apple tree seedlings, and check it all out. 

Well, the market now has a poster, and guess who is in it?  That's me and my wife standing at the table on the right.  We're famous!

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on July 13, 2018, 07:30:11 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 13, 2018, 06:51:54 AM...  That's me and my wife standing at the table on the right.  We're famous! ...

oo, can I have your autograph?  ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on July 13, 2018, 08:24:35 AM
Wow, what a nice photo.

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on July 13, 2018, 08:42:40 AM
Wow, that looks really nice! So does the poster!


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on July 13, 2018, 10:13:38 AM
You celebrity you... :D I must say....looking good in the pic
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 13, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: ElizabethK on July 13, 2018, 10:13:38 AM
You celebrity you... :D I must say....looking good in the pic
Mostly, I suspect, because you can't really see much of us!  Thanks, anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on July 13, 2018, 02:25:36 PM
Oh how cool. I know someone famous!!! Do you mind if I start dropping your name into conversations to show off that I know a celebrity?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on July 13, 2018, 02:50:23 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on July 13, 2018, 02:25:36 PM
Oh how cool. I know someone famous!!! Do you mind if I start dropping your name into conversations to show off that I know a celebrity?

Sorry Jayne, it's far too late for that. If you tried it now you'd be viewed as a name-dropping social climber.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on July 13, 2018, 04:43:51 PM
Kathy, if we come to visit can I get an autographed copy of the poster so that my friends know that I have a famous friend?

When life smiles at you, it doesn't hold back does it?

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on July 13, 2018, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 13, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
Mostly, I suspect, because you can't really see much of us!  Thanks, anyway. ;)

I could see enough to know you are being harsh on yourself :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 18, 2018, 06:27:01 PM
My wife and I went to the Pride Market at a nearby town this evening.  It is a regular Wednesday evening farmers'/craft market, but for Pride Week, they dress it up with rainbow flags, and have LGBTQ+ information booths.  It is not much, but it is kind of cool that a little town does this.

Before we went there, we did some regular shopping - groceries and mostly boring stuff.  But, at a drug store, we found nail polish on sale.  I managed to find blue, pink, and white, as well as some glittery purple.  I painted my fingernails in trans flag colours, and my toenails in glittery purple.  It was only my second time doing my toes, and my first ever doing my fingers, so don't laugh too hard.

The Wednesday evening market is set up mostly for eating.  Most of the vendors are serving fast food.  I had a veggie stir fry and carrot cake.  We had arranged to meet up with a friend there.  While we were waiting for her to get her food, a couple of friends we hadn't expected showed up, so we all ate and chatted together.

They usually have entertainment at the market.  In addition to the regular singer with a guitar, this week they had two belly dancers and a drag performer.  The drag artist was a good friend of ours from the theatre.  He is an amazingly good actor on stage, but I had no idea he did drag.  I am not a big fan of drag performance, but, damn, he was good, lip syncing perfectly to some song I didn't know.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on July 18, 2018, 06:58:57 PM
I'm glad you had a nice time!  You look comfortable and relaxed.  Awesome!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Stevi on July 18, 2018, 07:03:58 PM
Kathy,

Is that a new avatar?  Sure it is!  Lookin' good, girl!!

Stevi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on July 18, 2018, 10:38:03 PM
Hi Kathy,

  I see you have cut your hair and are wearing brighter clothes in order to blend in with the flowers just in case I come looking for you now that I have a passport. Good luck and you better clean the top of your fridge just in case.
  btw it helps not to publish a new picture of yourself and then us it as your avatar if you are trying to blend in. Nut it does look nice Hun. Very nice.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on July 19, 2018, 12:56:48 AM
Looking great and relaxed there Kathy

I would never have thought to be as creative as you painting my nails that way, this is where my lack of imagination shines through. They look great and you have won me with the purple sparkle on the toes  :D

Sounds like a lovely way to spend the evening,

Take care

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: davina61 on July 19, 2018, 12:56:28 PM
I must say you look like a lady in my village and loving your top
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 19, 2018, 01:17:33 PM
Thanks for the nice comments, everyone!

Quote from: davina61 on July 19, 2018, 12:56:28 PM
loving your top
Paisley is my favourite colour.  ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on July 19, 2018, 02:18:41 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:  Please tell me, WHO is that person in your newest Avatar/profile picture? 
And what have you done with our dear member KathyLauren.

I have to tell you Kathy, as I have already commented to you on another thread, your newest pictures are absolutely amazing and you look wonderful and beautiful and all of the words like that...

Thank you for sharing your life with all of us....
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 21, 2018, 09:17:21 AM
"We should get another cat," she said.  "It'll be fun," she said.

Skip ahead six months to last night.  We got home from the theatre, planning to go to Annapolis Royal this morning for their first ever Pride Parade.  Everyone else was going to Halifax for the big parade, but we both hate city traffic and parking, and it's a big corporate-type parade.  Annapolis Royal is a tiny little town, and we wanted to support them in holding a Pride parade.  The drive is a tad shorter than going to the city, but still close to an hour and a half.  So we set the alarm for ten to six, to give us time to get there before the 9:00 start time.

About 3:00 this morning, I was awakened from a sound sleep by a loud crash.  As is typical in that situation, I had only the vaguest mental recording of the sound, but I could tell it came from upstairs.  I got up, threw on a robe, and went upstairs to investigate.  Nothing seemed out of place.  Weird.  Back to bed.

But not to sleep.  When woken up suddenly, it takes me at least two hours to burn off the adrenalin and get back to sleep.  So, I am tossing and turning some time later, when there is another loud sound.  It matched the first one, but this time, I could identify it as a cat scrabbling to catch something.  Oh, great, I thought, we must have a mouse in the house.

This pattern repeated approximately every hour, with the sounds coming from various parts of the house.  The final one including the dog complaining loudly about being woken up, probably by a kitty jumping onto her.

Finally, the alarm goes off, with me not having slept since 3:00.  We got up, fed the critters, and quickly decided to abort the trip to any parade.  Coffee can keep me from falling asleep, but it can't make me alert enough for highway driving if my brain is foggy.

Instead, we went out for breakfast.  We are regulars at one restaurant, where the morning waitress knows us.  It was "Good morning, ladies.  You don't need menus.  (She knows our order.)  Sit anywhere you like."  Coffee - YES!!

After some more investigation, we have concluded that it wasn't a mouse in the house.  There is no sign of a mouse, and they tend not to come indoors at this time of year.  The culprit seems to bave been a flying beetle, which I rounded up and dispatched.  Eric, the new cat, goes nuts when he finds an insect, so it could totally account for his hunting expedition.

Well, okay, at least I have some obligatory on-topic content to justify posting this story: the Pride parades, and being called "ladies" in the restaurant.   ;)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on July 21, 2018, 01:13:42 PM
Whenever I'm told, "Sit anywhere you like," I tell them I'd like to sit in the Bahamas.

When they say "breakfast served anytime," I say I'd like it served in 1903.

When asked, "If you could have dinner with anyone alive or dead, it would be...?" I always answer, "Alive."

When I'm finished I tell them that all that food ruined my appetite. In fact, I'm fed up.

I tell ya, I got a million of 'em. Don't forget to tip your waitress.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on July 21, 2018, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 21, 2018, 09:17:21 AM
"We should get another cat," she said.  "It'll be fun," she said.

After some more investigation, we have concluded that it wasn't a mouse in the house.  There is no sign of a mouse, and they tend not to come indoors at this time of year.  The culprit seems to bave been a flying beetle, which I rounded up and dispatched.  Eric, the new cat, goes nuts when he finds an insect, so it could totally account for his hunting expedition.

Well, okay, at least I have some obligatory on-topic content to justify posting this story: the Pride parades, and being called "ladies" in the restaurant.   ;)


Ahhhh the stealthy but ever deadly flying beetles...all I can say is I think you should be eternally grateful to your wonderful cat for protecting you from those vicious flying beetles.
We may have been reading an obituary if it hadn't been for that brave kitty!!!

Take care

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 24, 2018, 04:37:48 PM
Ever since I started measuring, back before HRT, my bust measurement has been 38½".  I assume that any gain in boobage was equalled by a loss in muscle and fat.  This measurement was so constant that I don't measure very often: too depressing.

Well, the more-or-less constant "growth pain" has increased a tad lately, and my breasts feel fuller in my hands.  So I thought I'd take a chance and measure them.  Well, WOO_HOO!!  I am up to 39½"!!  I'm pretty sure I am still an A cup, but a fuller one now.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on July 24, 2018, 04:54:31 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on July 24, 2018, 04:37:48 PM
Ever since I started measuring, back before HRT, my bust measurement has been 38½".  I assume that any gain in boobage was equalled by a loss in muscle and fat.  This measurement was so constant that I don't measure very often: too depressing.

Well, the more-or-less constant "growth pain" has increased a tad lately, and my breasts feel fuller in my hands.  So I thought I'd take a chance and measure them.  Well, WOO_HOO!!  I am up to 39½"!!  I'm pretty sure I am still an A cup, but a fuller one now.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Hmmm, growth pains in your breasts... that is usually good news, something is happening... no pain, no gain.
The hands know!!  But the tape measure knows the truth.
I am very happy for you... continue on!! 
Keep the update reports coming.  Your readers and followers are a curious bunch.

Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on July 24, 2018, 04:57:15 PM
Oh wow that's great news Kathy. Growth pains are so worth it for the end results. Keep up the good work and you will need to be bra shopping for a bigger size soon.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on July 24, 2018, 08:02:04 PM
What fun news, and a full inch....wow! Is the growing pain still present?

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 25, 2018, 06:24:40 AM
Quote from: Anne Blake on July 24, 2018, 08:02:04 PM
What fun news, and a full inch....wow! Is the growing pain still present?

Tia Anne
Well, it is unlikely to have been a sudden increase.  Like I said, I seldom measure any more, and it has probably been at least six months since I did.  The growth pain is usually present, though it is sometimes more, sometimes less.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on July 25, 2018, 10:14:35 AM
I don't know about the unlikeliness of sudden growth. Like you, I don't often measure anymore but in the last three weeks my left girl seems to have grown more than half a cup....now if the right one would just try to catch up. So, yes, I can really relate to the joy you experienced in a measurable inch!

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donna on July 27, 2018, 06:52:46 PM
Sudden growth or rapid growth can happen for sure. Even with weight lose ive had crazy growth. Dont give up girls anything is possible
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on July 30, 2018, 11:59:58 AM
Electrolysis day today.  She wanted to try doing my upper lip without a dental block.  All the hair there is on a young cycle, and it is mostly dark, so she is thinking that she can get away with a lower power setting. 

So, an hour before treatment, I trowelled on a ton of Emla, and covered it appropriately (plastic wrap, double layer of gauze, more plastic).  I had taken all the appropriate precautions: no caffeine-type products for 24 hours, well hydrated, a good CD cued up in the headphones for distraction.

The numbing lasted for all of about 2 minutes in the centre of my lip.  Holy crap, does it wear off fast there!  She only got in a handful of zaps before the pain level was too high.  Fortunately, it lasted better in other areas.  She spent about 15-20 minutes on my upper lip, doing the sides.  And then she went on to do one cheek, which I had also prepared separately.

But now I look like I have a Hitler moustache!  :o  So, electrolysis rash or not, I'll be shaving before I go out tonight.

I am going to try even more Emla next time.  She said to include the bottom of the nose as well as the upper lip.  I think the game plan is to hit the upper lip each time from now on for as long as I can stand it, and then move on to other areas.

Thank goodness for the music.  I was listening to Wynton Marsalis on "Baroque Music for Trumpet".  If you like Baroque music or trumpet, you have to listen to this CD.  He plays that trumpet so high that listening to it is like flying!  The perfect distraction from repeated pain.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on July 30, 2018, 10:09:03 PM
Ooooohh Kathy that is a particularly nasty part to have done. I hated having my top lip done and I think I would have had maybe 9 complete clearances plus I got a great result from laser but I noticed last week a few of the little buggers are back so went and got another laser zapping.

I found if I put the emla on for 90minutes in 4 different spots I could cover an hour pretty well so long as she took them off one at a time and by the time we got to the last one it was pretty numb. The numbing lasted 15 minutes in most places however it gets expensive after awhile. Well its at least a few less hairs you now don't have to worry about....always a good thing  :)

Take care

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on August 06, 2018, 09:00:09 PM
Hiya Kathy,

You are looking great!! Love your new avatar, which by now is not new anymore. I am still trying to catch up with everyone. I like what you did with your nail polish. Looks good.

Congrats on having measurable growth with the girls. I know what you mean about measuring. I started measuring on a weekly basis, then monthly and now it's pretty much when I think of it. I know my breasts are growing, I can see it and they feel bigger, but the tape measure seems to stay constant. I guess the growth is becoming fuller and rounder, which the tape measure won't really pick up. The important thing is that you are comfortable and happy with how you feel rather than what a tale measure tells you.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 13, 2018, 12:03:26 PM
I just got back from an awesome weekend that I call "nerd camp": an astronomy society camp-out.  I will post more about it when I get a chance to write it up.  I just checked for updates, and there is not possible way I can get totally caught up, so my apologies if I miss someone's updates.  I'll do my best to catch up.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on August 13, 2018, 12:27:40 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 13, 2018, 12:03:26 PM
I just got back from an awesome weekend that I call "nerd camp": an astronomy society camp-out.  I will post more about it when I get a chance to write it up.  I just checked for updates, and there is not possible way I can get totally caught up, so my apologies if I miss someone's updates.  I'll do my best to catch up.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Oh for sure I will be looking for the details of your "nerd camp"  astronomy camp-out.   I have done a few of those also and I bring my own telescope like just about everyone else BUT I get so envious at some of the amazing telescopes that some of the other "nerds" own.... and of course those telescopes have amazing  price tags too!!!
Up here where I live, and certainly in the sparsely populated are that you also live, star gazing is wonderful... no light pollution at all where I am.   
Here we also have the most amazing views of the ever changing Northern Lights.   The Aurora Borealis is such an amazing and spectacular sight and here it is fairly high up in the sky.

I hear you about being away from the forums even for just a day or two.... as you said, it is almost impossible to properly catch up...  things here on the forums with the members that we follow are like a fast moving target.

Thanks for your update and I will certainly be looking forward to reading your astronomy camp-out update when you can post more about your time there.

Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 13, 2018, 02:12:49 PM
Long post.
TL;DR: Awesome weekend with some excellent trans-related experiences.

I spent the last three days at the annual "star party" of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada.  This group has a special place in my heart quite apart from the subject matter.  It was a presentation three years ago at their annual national convention, by an astrophysicist who happened to be trans, that opened my eyes to how a trans person could be seen as "normal".  And my public speaking debut as Kathy, at last year's star party, gave me a huge confidence boost.

The event is a camp-out with telescopes at a provincial park.  They have speakers giving presentations during the daytime and in the early evening, and then we observe and/or photograph the sky after it gets dark.

Clothing-wise, my presentation was girl-camper: colourful T-shirts, and denim capris or shorts.  It was scorching hot and we were out in the sun a lot in the daytime, so I decided to go wig-less for most of the weekend and wear either a ball cap with the society's logo or my wide-brim gardening hat.  And a ton of SPF 50 sunscreen!

The campground.  The photo is from two years ago because I didn't get any good ones this year, but I was in the same campsite this year.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/932/29081195727_f7aa405a69_b.jpg)

I checked my appearance carefully in the mirror before leaving my tent in the mornings.  And, aside from my receding hairline, easily covered, I couldn't see male in the mirror.  Well, except for the beard stubble.  I had to dry-shave in my tent before venturing out to the washroom for my shower in the mornings.  Shaving my face in public would definitely impair my passability.  But my eyes and my mouth do not pass as male any more.

This year, like last, they asked me to do a beginner's talk.  Like last year's talk, on a slightly different subject, I focused on some common "gotchas" that cause beginners problems because no one told them.  No one fell asleep, and I had numerous people seek me out for the rest of the weekend to thank me for the talk.  There were several experienced members who said that they learned something new that they hadn't known before.

I cleaned up in the astrophotography contest, winning both the adjudicated competition and the people's choice award.  There was some stiff competition, and apparently, I won by only one vote in both cases, but a win is a win.

My winning photo:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1792/44018937691_26197ed6d0_b.jpg)

Yesterday, we went on a field trip to see two tidal bores.  (Tides are an astronomical phenomenon, and tidal bores are certainly not boring.  The Bay of Fundy has the world's highest tides, and yesteday's tides were the highest in 2018.)  We car pooled to the two sites, and I was seated next to a new female member that I had not met before.  I took advantage of the opportunity to brush up on my interacting-with-women social skills.  We had a nice chat in the car about our backgrounds (she is a retired nurse), our dogs, and such stuff.

One of the two tidal bores:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1794/42209571510_29d97e9fca_b.jpg)

On the way back to the campground, we stopped at a restaurant for lunch.  I don't normally eat with my hat on – only cowboys eat with their hats on – but I couldn't bring myself to reveal my balding pate, so I kept my ball cap on.  I felt obliged to apologize, and my new friend took an immediate interest.  So I explained that I had "really bad alopecia".  Which is true: male pattern baldness is also known as androgenic alopecia.  She took even more of an interest at that point.  I was starting to get uncomfortable that my answers would appear deceptive, so I came out to her.  Everyone else in the society already knows about me, and I'd rather she heard it from me than from someone else.  She went on to ask some really sensible and sensitive questions: she has a neighbour who is FTM trans.  It felt good to be real with her.  I don't think she guessed that I was trans before I told her.  On the other hand, I could tell that she was thinking, "Well, that explains the voice."

Speaking of which, one of the night-time activities is to share our telescopes and views with members of the general public.  It is dark, only dim red lights are permitted, and you can't tell who is who until they speak.  So at one point, someone at my telescope said to their companion, "Look, this gentleman has Saturn in his telescope."  I gritted my teeth and said, "Argh!" to myself.  I didn't bother to correct them.  I've never seen them before in my life, I won't even see them again, and the misgendering was understandable, since they had nothing to go on but my voice.  But argh, anyway.

This morning, as everyone was packing up, an old friend in the group came over to chat.  We don't often get face time, so she asked me how my transition was going.  I was able to tell her that it is all going way better than I had ever expected.  It was nice of her to ask.

So, aside from looking at stars and meteors, what are my take-aways from the weekend?  I am a public figure in the society, not for being trans, but as both a speaker and an award recipient.  I am 'out' to just about everyone, and am totally accepted.  In fact, more than accepted, I feel supported, respected, and even liked.  I have some women friends in the group, old and new, with whom I can be real, and who are supportive.  (My new friend also came over to say goodbye to me as I was packing up.) 

I came home on a huge high.  :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on August 13, 2018, 06:37:16 PM
Kathy its nice to have unqualified accepted in a group of peers.  Your photo is so cool.  Its sounds like you had a very good weekend.  Enjoy the feeling!

I had to look up Tidal Bores to understand what it was.  Very neat, now I know.  Thanks.

Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Steph Eigen on August 13, 2018, 06:39:23 PM
Photo of M13?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Perry on August 13, 2018, 06:45:09 PM
Kathy, your photo is just so wondrous ! I found myself gazing at it for several minutes, great job.  Also, congratulations on achieving so much support and respect from your club members.

Perry
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on August 13, 2018, 07:26:45 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:  Waiting for you nerd astronomy camp-out UPDATE was well worth the wait.  Your getaway sounded really nice in several ways... the sky views, your winning the astro-photography contest, being brave about your trans status, gritting your teeth when you were called a gentleman, your new accepting friend, etc.  I would have loved to be there with you, we could have been each other's bodyguards, LOL   ;)   .... and of course your public speaking endeavors.   Your tidal bore exploration sounds wonderful...  I have been to the Bay of Funday in the past, quite the exciting natural phenomenon for sure.

And after all of that .... you came home on an emotional high.  It doesn't get much better than that.

Thanks for your update and for sharing with us all.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 13, 2018, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: Steph Eigen on August 13, 2018, 06:39:23 PM
Photo of M13?
Good eye!  Yes, indeed, M13.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on August 13, 2018, 11:42:45 PM
Great update Kathy! You had quite the getaway. Congratulations on winning the photo competition. Lovely photo of the pretty stars! Did I just give myself away as not having any clue about star systems? [emoji23] my brother likes astrophotography but I have not seen his telescope in action. Unfortunately in Sydney there is lots of light pollution, being a big city. Whenever my wife and I visit her family in your part of the world, I am always amazed at how amazing the sky looks at night when there are no city lights spoiling the view. Am I correct in assuming that the star photos are captured with a long exposure, wide aperture, with the camera mounted on the telescope as it moves to track the desired area? Nice work capturing a nice clear photo without any motion blur.

Sorry you got misgendered in the dark. However you did handle it well. If it is any consolation, there used to be a cis lady at my work that got misgendered on the phone frequently, I have been guilty of misgendering her myself.  Voice alone is not a foolproof way to be gendered correctly, even for cis people.

Being treated with respect and recognised for your knowledge rather than your gender or how you dress should be a given. Unfortunately that is not always the case. I am glad your friends and acquaintances within your star gazing community treat you with the respect you deserve.

So happy you had such a great few days participating in an activity you enjoy.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 14, 2018, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on August 13, 2018, 11:42:45 PMWhenever my wife and I visit her family in your part of the world, I am always amazed at how amazing the sky looks at night when there are no city lights spoiling the view. Am I correct in assuming that the star photos are captured with a long exposure, wide aperture, with the camera mounted on the telescope as it moves to track the desired area? Nice work capturing a nice clear photo without any motion blur.
If I remember correctly where your wife's family are from, you would be only a short drive (30 minutes, maybe) from Keji (Kejimkujik National Park), which has super-dark skies and was the first designated dark sky preserve in Canada.  It is a great place for stargazing.

The star photo was a total of 88 minutes of exposure time.  It is not a single photo, but 32 individual photos, from 2 minutes to 5 minutes in length, combined on the computer.  The photographic aperture was f/4.  The telescope mount tracks the sky at exactly the right rate to ensure there is no motion.  In addition, during each exposure, the computer is using a second camera to monitor the tracking and make tiny adjustments to keep each star within 1 pixel of where it should be.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on August 15, 2018, 06:52:08 AM
Wow what a week end....Great win and I agree a win is a win. I love the photo.

"That explains the voice"... at least you know everything else works really well :D....silver lining? Sounds like from what you have said that being out has certainly made you happy. it great that it has worked out so well


The best lind of the whole post imho

" I am 'out' to just about everyone, and am totally accepted.  In fact, more than accepted, I feel supported, respected, and even liked."


Brilliant what more can a gilr ask for!!


Take care


Liz

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 16, 2018, 07:43:53 AM
Yesterday, my wife and I put the hound into daycare and drove to Kejimkujik National Park.  (The name is pronounced exactly as it is spelled: four syllables, with equal accents on the first and third.)  Neither of us had ever been there before.  We didn't have a whole lot of time there, but we did hike a 5 km forest trail through some old-growth stands of pine and hemlock trees.

We had a late lunch of pasta in historic Annapolis Royal, and then stopped on the way home for some chocolate mousse.  Mmm!  We were addressed as "ladies".  It never gets old!

Looking around the restaurant at lunch, there were lots of tourist families.  I found that I could relate to the women, but not to the men.  It was like the women were "my people" and the men were aliens.  While the awareness of this is new since I transitioned, I realize that the feeling was always there.  It kind of boggles my mind that I ever tried to be one of them.

Pics or it didn't happen.  I am the one in the purple top.  (No one told me that my collar was turned out!)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1838/43163207245_f0739b9d5e_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1779/43351344114_daaee126e9_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1840/43351345894_39f4503694_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on August 16, 2018, 09:57:23 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 16, 2018, 07:43:53 AM
Yesterday, my wife and I put the hound into daycare and drove to Kejimkujik National Park.  (The name is pronounced exactly as it is spelled: four syllables, with equal accents on the first and third.)  Neither of us had ever been there before.  We didn't have a whole lot of time there, but we did hike a 5 km forest trail through some old-growth stands of pine and hemlock trees.

We had a late lunch of pasta in historic Annapolis Royal, and then stopped on the way home for some chocolate mousse.  Mmm!  We were addressed as "ladies".  It never gets old!

Looking around the restaurant at lunch, there were lots of tourist families.  I found that I could relate to the women, but not to the men.  It was like the women were "my people" and the men were aliens.  While the awareness of this is new since I transitioned, I realize that the feeling was always there.  It kind of boggles my mind that I ever tried to be one of them.

Pics or it didn't happen. I am the one in the purple top.  (No one told me that my collar was turned out!)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1838/43163207245_f0739b9d5e_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1779/43351344114_daaee126e9_b.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1840/43351345894_39f4503694_b.jpg)

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Thank you for your lovely posting, the pictures are terrific...
I had to chuckle when you stated that you are "the one in the purple top" ......   there is no one else pictured in the 3 photos that you posted in the above thread except for the cute little chipmunk so I knew that the 3rd photo was not you.

I agree with your thoughts about being in a room of men and women..... I naturally gravitate toward the women and will start casual conversations with them, I find that I have so much in common with other women, we talk about things that are not normal subjects with conversing with men.    I will be friendly with the men but in a much more guarded and brief way, after all if their wives are in the room I don't want to be seen as flirting with their husbands.

Ahhhh.... to be addressed as one of the ladies......  a wonderful feeling for sure.
Thank you for your uplifting photos.....  it looked like a wonderful day at a beautiful park... you stated that you and your wife had not been there previously.... is it anywhere near where you live or somewhat far away???.

Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 16, 2018, 10:14:14 AM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on August 16, 2018, 09:57:23 AM
I had to chuckle when you stated that you are "the one in the purple top"
If it gave you a chuckle, then mission accomplished.  :D

Quote
is it anywhere near where you live or somewhat far away???.
It is about a two and a half hour drive.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on August 16, 2018, 10:20:01 AM
Nice photos!  It looks like a nice park with the boardwalked trail. 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on August 16, 2018, 03:00:57 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 16, 2018, 10:14:14 AM
If it gave you a chuckle, then mission accomplished.  :D
It is about a two and a half hour drive.

If it hadn't been you in the purple top, I would have recommended you have a talk with your electrocutioner.


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Karen on August 16, 2018, 07:39:09 PM
Hi Kathy.

What a beautiful day.   You look amazing and wilderness looks so calming.   

I have not transitioned, but have embraced my feelings and am so much more in tune with who I admire and related to.   Most men are alien to me too....not that I have issues...I just don't related to them and are far more in tune with the women I know and meet.

Always enjoy connecting with you.

Hugs

Karen.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on August 18, 2018, 06:19:35 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 14, 2018, 09:04:02 AM
If I remember correctly where your wife's family are from, you would be only a short drive (30 minutes, maybe) from Keji (Kejimkujik National Park), which has super-dark skies and was the first designated dark sky preserve in Canada.  It is a great place for stargazing.
Hi Kathy,

You are correct. My wife's family is not far from Keji. I have only ever been there once in our visits to her family. We hired a canoe and paddles around parts of the lake. Found a small deserted island in the lake to have a picnic just the two of us. The wind had picked up by the afternoon so it was a challenging and wet paddle back to the rental place. We didn't spend the night there. It would have been fun gazing at the night sky on a clear night.

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The star photo was a total of 88 minutes of exposure time.  It is not a single photo, but 32 individual photos, from 2 minutes to 5 minutes in length, combined on the computer.  The photographic aperture was f/4.  The telescope mount tracks the sky at exactly the right rate to ensure there is no motion.  In addition, during each exposure, the computer is using a second camera to monitor the tracking and make tiny adjustments to keep each star within 1 pixel of where it should be.
Your description of taking the star photo sounds very similar to how my brother takes photos. One of these days I will have to get him to show me his setup in action.

Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on August 18, 2018, 07:35:24 AM
Hi Kathy,

As I mentioned in my previous post, I have only been to the main Keji National Park once. I have been to the Keji Seaside Adjunct  between Liverpool and Shelburne a few times. Both parts are different and equally scenic in their own way. The hike you did looks very pretty. Thank you for identifying yourself in the photos otherwise I would have had trouble picking you out. [emoji23]

I keep reading how being gendered correctly never gets old. I am looking forward to experiencing that "never gets old" feeling myself. Chocolate mousse sounds like an essential and worthwhile pit stop on the way home.

The feeling of relating to other women and thinking of them as "my people" compared to the "alien" men is a feeling I have recently become aware of myself. In hindsight, that feeling was always there but without any frame of reference. It was a feeling in isolation that I had no way to describe or understand. It is a mystery to me how I have made it 40+ years without having a clue I am trans. Oh well! 🤷‍♀️

Thanks for this update.

Hugs,
Jayne



Quote from: KathyLauren on August 16, 2018, 07:43:53 AM
Yesterday, my wife and I put the hound into daycare and drove to Kejimkujik National Park.  (The name is pronounced exactly as it is spelled: four syllables, with equal accents on the first and third.)  Neither of us had ever been there before.  We didn't have a whole lot of time there, but we did hike a 5 km forest trail through some old-growth stands of pine and hemlock trees.

We had a late lunch of pasta in historic Annapolis Royal, and then stopped on the way home for some chocolate mousse.  Mmm!  We were addressed as "ladies".  It never gets old!

Looking around the restaurant at lunch, there were lots of tourist families.  I found that I could relate to the women, but not to the men.  It was like the women were "my people" and the men were aliens.  While the awareness of this is new since I transitioned, I realize that the feeling was always there.  It kind of boggles my mind that I ever tried to be one of them.

Pics or it didn't happen.  I am the one in the purple top.  (No one told me that my collar was turned out!)
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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on August 18, 2018, 06:33:18 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 16, 2018, 07:43:53 AM
Yesterday, my wife and I put the hound into daycare and drove to Kejimkujik National Park.  (The name is pronounced exactly as it is spelled: four syllables, with equal accents on the first and third.)  Neither of us had ever been there before.  We didn't have a whole lot of time there, but we did hike a 5 km forest trail through some old-growth stands of pine and hemlock trees.

We had a late lunch of pasta in historic Annapolis Royal, and then stopped on the way home for some chocolate mousse.  Mmm!  We were addressed as "ladies".  It never gets old!

Looking around the restaurant at lunch, there were lots of tourist families.  I found that I could relate to the women, but not to the men.  It was like the women were "my people" and the men were aliens.  While the awareness of this is new since I transitioned, I realize that the feeling was always there.  It kind of boggles my mind that I ever tried to be one of them.

Pics or it didn't happen.  I am the one in the purple top.  (No one told me that my collar was turned out!)


Hi Kathy

Two things about this post stuck out to me, the first is your use of the word transitioned...do you feel like you have finished your transition and can now move on to returning your life to some semblance of normality? I loved your comment about being called "ladies" never getting old. I can't help myself, it always makes me smile when I hear it said to me. When I read your posts I really get the impression that you have your life back and it is not so 'Transition focused" anymore. I find that refreshing and something I am striving for.

Thanks for sharing

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Katie Jade on August 18, 2018, 06:51:08 PM
Kathy
First hugz for having shared such a nice time and another Hug cos you are sharing your experiences with us. For myself  I may never get to the US or Canada, but everyone's descriptions of its wonderous landscapes and diversity make me wonder if the UK isn't as good any more, even to me. So keep on posting pictures of lovely landscapes and sun-downs, maybe I've just have a touch of 'the grass is greener, on the other side of the fence' stuff.
love it all, Gogogo Kathy

Luv n Hugz
Katie

:angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 18, 2018, 08:20:36 PM
Quote from: LizK on August 18, 2018, 06:33:18 PM
Hi Kathy

Two things about this post stuck out to me, the first is your use of the word transitioned...do you feel like you have finished your transition and can now move on to returning your life to some semblance of normality? I loved your comment about being called "ladies" never getting old. I can't help myself, it always makes me smile when I hear it said to me. When I read your posts I really get the impression that you have your life back and it is not so 'Transition focused" anymore. I find that refreshing and something I am striving for.

Thanks for sharing

Liz

Hi, Liz. 

When I say "transitioned", I mean going full-time.  For me, social dysphoria was the biggest thing, so the social change is (and probably eventually will still be in hindsight) the biggest part of my transition. 

I am not done yet, though.  I am in the queue for GRS.  It is a long, long queue.  I have been waiting 11 months to get in to see a shrink for my second referral letter.  In another month, I will give them another call to make sure I am still on the waiting list.  And that's just a wait to get an appointment date.  Then, there will be a wait for the appointment itself.  Followed by who-knows-how-many sessions that will be necessary to satisfy the Montreal clinic.  Followed by getting into the clinic's system and waiting for a surgery date.

All that is such a slow process that I don't even think about it.  GRS will take care of the last remaining dysphoria, and I will be happy when I get there.  But when I look back once it is all done, the most significant part of my transition will still be going full-time.

So, right now, I am enjoying life.  I get to be myself; I am respected for who I am; I like myself, even if I am not yet finished.  I can't say I "have my life back", because what I have now is so much better than what I had before.  I have a life now.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 19, 2018, 05:22:28 PM
I saw somewhere that today was Transgender Flag Day.  Aug 19th is the day, back in 1999, when the blue, pink and white transgender flag day was designed. 

So I flew my flag on the house.  Okay, we live in the woods and have few visitors, so no one actually saw it except me and my wife, but at least it was flying.  Not being satisfied with that, I also wore a heart-shaped pin with the trans flag colours when we went into town to do some furniture shopping.  We talked to several sales people, one of whom liked my skirt, but no one commented on the pin.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 22, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
The people at my pharmacy may be smarter than they appear.  My current prescription runs for a year, with four quarterly refills.  But a "month" of spiro pills is 30 days, while a "month" of E patches lasts 28 days.  The difference means that, by the end of the year, I would run out of E a month before I would run out of S.

When I went in today to get another quarteryl refill, they gave me four boxes of patches instead of the three I was expecting.  So, all things being equal, I should run out of both together after all.  Someone was using their head.

In other news, all is quiet.  My facial hair is light enough and sparse enough that I was able to go into town shopping with two days of growth (electrolysis tomorrow) and minimal makeup and not draw undue attention.  In such situations, I do tend to dress up a bit more to reduce any ambiguity in my appearance.  It seems to work.  Today, I wore a swishy purple skirt and an off-white T-shirt for a casual but unmistakeably feminine look.

I am looking forward to Tia @Anne Blake and @Debi coming to visit next week on their transcontinental honeymoon.  It will be exciting to finally meet other denizens of Susan's!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on August 22, 2018, 06:37:38 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Thank you for posting your several latest updates.  All of that sure sounded like happy and good news.

Of course when Tia and Debi come to visit you .... pictures or it didn't happen!!!

It is always my pleasure to follow your postings around the Forums on the various threads and I am always looking forward to catching up with you on your thread.

Thanks for posting your updates... your followers are a curious bunch!   
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on August 22, 2018, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 22, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
The people at my pharmacy may be smarter than they appear.  My current prescription runs for a year, with four quarterly refills.  But a "month" of spiro pills is 30 days, while a "month" of E patches lasts 28 days.  The difference means that, by the end of the year, I would run out of E a month before I would run out of S.

When I went in today to get another quarteryl refill, they gave me four boxes of patches instead of the three I was expecting.  So, all things being equal, I should run out of both together after all.  Someone was using their head.

In other news, all is quiet.  My facial hair is light enough and sparse enough that I was able to go into town shopping with two days of growth (electrolysis tomorrow) and minimal makeup and not draw undue attention.  In such situations, I do tend to dress up a bit more to reduce any ambiguity in my appearance.  It seems to work.  Today, I wore a swishy purple skirt and an off-white T-shirt for a casual but unmistakeably feminine look.

I am looking forward to Tia @Anne Blake and @Debi coming to visit next week on their transcontinental honeymoon.  It will be exciting to finally meet other denizens of Susan's!
Kathy, it's nice that the pharmacy staff had the foresight to figure out your prescriptions so that they run out at the same time.

I can't wait for my facial hair to vanish. It's all black, so very visible, even after shaving. Good news is electrolysis is working well and there is an end in sight. I hope you are getting close to your electrolysis treatment so that you no longer have to worry about shaving or any growth.

Have fun with your newly re-wed guests next week.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: TonyaW on August 22, 2018, 08:31:31 PM


Quote from: KathyLauren on August 22, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
The people at my pharmacy may be smarter than they appear.  My current prescription runs for a year, with four quarterly refills.  But a "month" of spiro pills is 30 days, while a "month" of E patches lasts 28 days.  The difference means that, by the end of the year, I would run out of E a month before I would run out of S.

When I went in today to get another quarteryl refill, they gave me four boxes of patches instead of the three I was expecting.  So, all things being equal, I should run out of both together after all.  Someone was using their head.




I know the news on here is usually when one of us doesn't act like it,  but pharmacists are pretty smart folk.

Must be a Canadian thing with being able to sync up your refills like that.  In the states we are usually limited by insurance companies as to when and how much we  an supply at one time.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 23, 2018, 05:18:21 PM
Quote from: TonyaW on August 22, 2018, 08:31:31 PM
Must be a Canadian thing with being able to sync up your refills like that.  In the states we are usually limited by insurance companies as to when and how much we  an supply at one time.
Insurance isn't an issue for prescriptions here.  The doctor prescribes whatever she prescribes.  I buy the stuff and send in my receipts.  Insurance sends me whatever portion they are willing to pay.

Today, I went to my weekly electrocution torture.  I am getting better at retreating into the music in my headphones, which helps a lot with pain management.

Lately, we have been working on my upper lip.  I started out needing a dental block before she could even touch that area.  The last few sessions, the hairs have all been young and wimpy, and she has been able to zap them with only a ton of Emla.  Today, she informed me that my upper lip is basically done.  If I find new hairs sprouting, she'll get 'em, but she doesn't expect to have to devote a lot more time to my upper lip.  YAY!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on August 23, 2018, 09:58:04 PM
Kathy,

That is such great news, wow, top lip done! I am a bit jealous. You are making good progress.

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: GingerVicki on August 23, 2018, 10:04:27 PM
I am at the point where laser zapping isn't working much anymore and I am dreading the electrocution torture. Some of the hair didn't die and just turned silver and white.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on August 23, 2018, 11:28:34 PM
Hey Kathy, that's great news!  You've got to be happy for the upper lip to be done! Yaaaaay!!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Karen on August 24, 2018, 07:54:32 AM
Congrats Kathy on your upper lip.   What a relief.

I go through cycles of laser and feeling great without a shadow, and then the shadow comes back and dysphoria with it.   It is getting lighter and cant wait to be done....Then the electrolysis fun starts for the white and grey hair...

Congrats

Karen
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 25, 2018, 10:54:21 AM
The weekend is off to a good start.  Last night, we went to a community corn boil down on the beach.  The weather was warm and surprisingly not windy.  The sky was smoky with high-level smoke from the fires in western Canada.  (Today, it is just as hazy, but now we can smell the smoke, too!)  There were quite a few people around the fire, and the corn was tasty.

I am seated at left, in the red top:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/30392704778_37d8095a23_b.jpg)

This morning, we went to a multicultural fair in town.  It is not a very multicultural town, so the sampling of different cultures was limited, but it was still a colourful event, and well-attended.

I am not really as tall as I look here:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1854/30392708018_cf6d507b48_b.jpg)

We ran into one of my wifes friends there and had a good chat.  Then we noticed a woman pushing a yorkie in a stroller, which is a very sensible way to take a dog to an event like that.  We stopped to chat, first about the dog and then about all kinds of other stuff.  We seemed to make a natural connection, so we exchanged email addresses.

Okay, it is nothing exciting, but we do like to get out and about.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on August 25, 2018, 10:59:25 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 25, 2018, 10:54:21 AM
The weekend is off to a good start.  Last night, we went to a community corn boil down on the beach.  The weather was warm and surprisingly not windy.  The sky was smoky with high-level smoke from the fires in western Canada.  (Today, it is just as hazy, but now we can smell the smoke, too!)  There were quite a few people around the fire, and the corn was tasty.

I am seated at left, in the red top:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1868/30392704778_37d8095a23_b.jpg)

This morning, we went to a multicultural fair in town.  It is not a very multicultural town, so the sampling of different cultures was limited, but it was still a colourful event, and well-attended.

I am not really as tall as I look here:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1854/30392708018_cf6d507b48_b.jpg)

We ran into one of my wifes friends there and had a good chat.  Then we noticed a woman pushing a yorkie in a stroller, which is a very sensible way to take a dog to an event like that.  We stopped to chat, first about the dog and then about all kinds of other stuff.  We seemed to make a natural connection, so we exchanged email addresses.
Okay, it is nothing exciting, but we do like to get out and about.

Living life is always exciting when you love who you are and how you live.  I'm envious of your freedom to be the woman you have become!

Hugs and smiles from a California girl
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: TonyaW on August 25, 2018, 04:47:03 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 25, 2018, 10:54:21 AM





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I think you posted  a pic in that skirt before and I if I didn't tell you that I liked it I should have and if I did I'll say it a again.  I like that  skirt, I love that color and like that length for a light summer skirt. 

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on August 26, 2018, 02:39:37 AM
I'd have to agree with TonyaW about the Skirt. Its really nice I like a mid length especially in the summer. That beach looks fairly rocky is that typical of your area? We have miles upon miles of sandy beach coastline her in Australia apart that is from area closest one to me which is very, very, rocky...no sandcastles on that beach!! https://imgur.com/JJsZqf2

Meryl and I both enjoy the Markets but with her hours its not often we can co-ordinate to get to them.

Take care

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 29, 2018, 05:44:45 PM
@LizK, most of the beaches around here are pretty rocky.  There are a couple of sandy beaches in the Minas Basin, a few miles up the Bay from here.

Yesterday and today, Wendy and I have been enjoying the visit of everyone's favourite honeymooning couple, Tia @Anne Blake and @Debi.  More on that, including the obligatory photo, in their thread: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,239792.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,239792.0.html)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on August 30, 2018, 07:48:10 PM
My wife and I have enjoyed Tia Anne's and Debi's visit, the last couple of days.  We have seen some historical sites, window shopped, including taking them to our favourite second-hand clothing store (no purchases were made, though some clothes were tried on), eaten some excellent food, and enjoyed a lot of conversation.

These two ladies are lovely people, and if you are on their honeymoon itinerary, you are in for a treat!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on August 30, 2018, 07:57:24 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on August 30, 2018, 07:48:10 PM
These two ladies are lovely people, and if you are on their honeymoon itinerary, you are in for a treat!

I should have to second that.  Tia Anne and Debi are two of the nicest people I have ever met, wonderful souls on an amazing journey through life.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on August 31, 2018, 06:19:32 PM
Love your new profile pic Kathy. Your looking good girl!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 11, 2018, 08:15:53 AM
Well, poop poop poopity poop!  It's been a year since I was referred to a shrink for my second surgery letter.  So I called her office to see where I am on the waiting list.  The good news is that I'm still on it and I'm not at the bottom of it.  The bad news is that it will likely be another year before I get an appointment date.  Poop!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on September 11, 2018, 08:21:38 AM
oh wow. All that wait just for a letter??!!?? That's got to be frustrating

Hang in there
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on September 11, 2018, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 11, 2018, 08:15:53 AM
Well, poop poop poopity poop!  It's been a year since I was referred to a shrink for my second surgery letter.  So I called her office to see where I am on the waiting list.  The good news is that I'm still on it and I'm not at the bottom of it.  The bad news is that it will likely be another year before I get an appointment date.  Poop!
I'm so sorry Kathy. Poop! indeed!!! Are there any other avenues you could pursue in the meantime that may give you a quicker result?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 11, 2018, 08:47:34 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on September 11, 2018, 08:38:10 AM
I'm so sorry Kathy. Poop! indeed!!! Are there any other avenues you could pursue in the meantime that may give you a quicker result?
Well I made an appointment with my HRT doc, who wrote the referral, to discuss alternatives.  I may have to use a shotgun approach and get referred to several shrinks to see who gets me first. 

Or maybe I can get referrals to other professionals that have shorter waitlists.  I may need three or more letters if I do that to keep everyone happy, but three letters in six months would be better than two letters in another year or more.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on September 11, 2018, 08:51:55 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 11, 2018, 08:47:34 AM
Well I made an appointment with my HRT doc, who wrote the referral, to discuss alternatives.  I may have to use a shotgun approach and get referred to several shrinks to see who gets me first. 

Or maybe I can get referrals to other professionals that have shorter waitlists.  I may need three or more letters if I do that to keep everyone happy, but three letters in six months would be better than two letters in another year or more.
Do whatever you have to do Kathy. Don't let the "system" run you round in circles. Use whatever loopholes and alternative avenues you can to get the job done.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on September 11, 2018, 09:21:29 AM
You don't want to have one of your letters be too old or it might be rejected as not being a current reflection of you.  I recognize you maybe limited to opportunities in NS but I would keep searching. 
Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 17, 2018, 10:58:06 AM
On the weekend, I attended a wedding, my first ever as Kathy.  I wasn't expecting any issues, since the brides were two trans ladies.  There were several other trans women in attendance, as well as a heart-warming number of cis relatives and friends.  Both brides were walked down the aisle by their brothers.

Planning for this event was a great opportunity to buy myself a nice dress.  I have finally figured out what I need for a dress to look decent on me.  Aside from just fitting, it needs to have a well-defined waist and a flared skirt.  Together, those features draw attention away from my wide shoulders, not to mention the "third boob" (belly)!  This dress had those features, in a lovely drapey fabric and a gorgeous colour.  Being second-hand, it cost me all of $38.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1878/29766677927_f64564614b_b.jpg)

I got some silver flats at Payless.  It is nice of them to carry larger sizes, but I wish they had half-sizes.  Size 11 was too big to walk in, but size 10 pinches.  Oh well, they looked good.  I wore sneakers for the 2.5 hour drive.

I completed the look with a strand of my mother's pearls, looped three times around, and a pair of beaded earrings.  For a purse, I had a small black knitted shoulder bag that looks quite dressy.

And I got my dressier wig trimmed by a good hair stylist.  I liked the style, bit it just had too much hair.  She did a good job of thinning it out without messing with the length or style.

Some advice for ladies who wear wigs...  Get them trimmed by a good hairstylist!  Wigs are made with too much hair, just so that you can get them trimmed to suit your face.  If you don't get them trimmed, they will always have too much hair.  That is one of the "tells" that attracts unwanted attention from those who don't like us.  Make sure the stylist is good, though, since mistakes won't grow back.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on September 17, 2018, 11:45:47 AM
Kathy, you look fabulous!  Aren't thrift stores great?  Every community has a good thrift, it seems, although it can take a while to find it sometimes...

Great advice on the hair, too.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on September 17, 2018, 01:54:31 PM
Kathy, I commented on your FB page, but let me add here that you're just beautiful!

Your advice for how to pick out clothes to balance our shape is spot on. We generally have the "inverted triangle" shape, and I always look for either tops or bottoms that flare at the hip. I've even been able to rock sleeveless and strapped designs if the bottom flares to balance my shoulders.

My latest favorites are sleeveless a-line dresses with pockets. In the reviews all the women complained that the pockets overemphasized their hips. I thought, "perfect!" And they are! The cool thing is they can be dressed up or down depending on accessories and shoes.

I'm really starting to get the hang of it. It's obvious that you are, too!


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on September 17, 2018, 02:03:39 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Wow-zers... you look very beautiful in your nice pleated blue dress and your silver flats... all purchased very economically as well.   Of course your necklace, your hair, your earrings... etc.... all of that adds up to made a beautiful picture of yourself.   

I am also glad to see that you used that picture for you Avatar/Profile... a very nice updating to your profile appearance.

Thank you for sharing and for keeping your thread updated ...
Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on September 17, 2018, 08:23:09 PM
Oh My Goodness!  You look smashing, Kathy.  I love to color on you.  I love thrift shops as well.  I'm always looking for a bargain.  Around here there are many of them stocked with like new items and some with tags still on them!  Wow! 

You certainly found a beautiful style that suits you well.  I love your avatar photo too!
Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on September 17, 2018, 11:16:37 PM
You are looking beautiful girl! Well put together and lovely.

Just a reminder, you did have an open invitation to another wedding last month a bit south west of you....just saying,

Take care girlfriend,
Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on September 17, 2018, 11:38:35 PM
Quote from: Anne Blake on September 17, 2018, 11:16:37 PM
You are looking beautiful girl! Well put together and lovely.

Just a reminder, you did have an open invitation to another wedding last month a bit south west of you....just saying,

Take care girlfriend,
Tia Anne

I wasn't going to say anything!  [emoji6] Her absence was deeply felt, though.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 18, 2018, 06:57:57 AM
Quote from: Anne Blake on September 17, 2018, 11:16:37 PM
Just a reminder, you did have an open invitation to another wedding last month a bit south west of you....just saying,

Quote from: Steph2.0 on September 17, 2018, 11:38:35 PM
I wasn't going to say anything!  [emoji6] Her absence was deeply felt, though.

Yes, I know, and I feel bad that I wasn't there.

Maybe by 2021, I'll have a passport that properly identifies me, and conditions on your side of the border will have improved.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on September 18, 2018, 08:42:27 PM
Kathy you looked fabulous...the blue really suits you the styling around the middle is lovely and you really look great. My hairdresser echoed your thoughts exactly the other day when we were talking wigs.
:)
Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on September 19, 2018, 01:03:38 PM
Kathy, you look beautiful! Nice job putting together hot outfit. Interesting tip on the wigs. I had no idea they were purposely made with too much hair, but after what you said, it makes perfect sense to manufacture them with extra hair so that they can be trimmed to suit individuals.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 19, 2018, 06:13:16 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 18, 2018, 06:57:57 AM
Maybe by 2021, I'll have a passport that properly identifies me, and conditions on your side of the border will have improved.
News flash!!  Changes introduced today, effective in January 2019, mean that I can get my passport in 2019 after all!  There's still that other issue to be dealt with, though: not much the Nova Scotia legislature can do about that.

And thanks to all who commented on my photo.  You all know how to make a girl feel good!
@Michelle_P, @Steph2.0, @Alaskan Danielle, @JudiBlueEyes, @Anne Blake, @lizK, @Jayne01
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on September 19, 2018, 06:16:37 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 19, 2018, 06:13:16 PM... And thanks to all who commented on my photo.  You all know how to make a girl feel good!
@Michelle_P, @Steph2.0, @Alaskan Danielle, @JudiBlueEyes, @Anne Blake, @lizK, @Jayne01

you didn't hear me think a comment? I guess I need to work harder on actually typing them :(
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 19, 2018, 06:24:00 PM
Quote from: Faith on September 19, 2018, 06:16:37 PM
you didn't hear me think a comment? I guess I need to work harder on actually typing them :(
Well, of course, you too, @Faith! :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on September 19, 2018, 08:14:41 PM
This is good news in deed!  Soon you'll be traveling all about.   8)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on September 20, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
Hi Kathy,

That is good news about a passport and of course you will always be welcome to visit here in Colorado.....I just can't understand why you would ever want to leave such a lovely area as Nova Scotia.

Love you sister,
Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on September 20, 2018, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Anne Blake on September 20, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
Hi Kathy,

That is good news about a passport and of course you will always be welcome to visit here in Colorado.....I just can't understand why you would ever want to leave such a lovely area as Nova Scotia.

Love you sister,
Tia Anne

Ask again in January! [emoji16]
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 20, 2018, 05:23:11 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on September 20, 2018, 03:06:48 PM
Ask again in January! [emoji16]
Actually, January is usually not too bad.  Ask again in March, though.  March is the killer month: will winter never end? 

Four years ago, we got through December and January with moderate temperatures and very little snow.  By the last week of January, people were commenting on what a mild winter it had been.  Then, Jan 28th, a blizzard hit.  And another, and another.  We had a new blizzard every three days until the end of March.  The snowplow we contracted to clear our driveway got stuck.  We ran out of places to put the snow.

So, yeah, ask me in March.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on September 21, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
Oh no! I missed your birthday?

Happy Belated Birthday, Kathleen!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 21, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on September 21, 2018, 01:14:25 PM
Oh no! I missed your birthday?

Happy Belated Birthday, Kathleen!

Stephanie
Thanks, Stephanie.  I don't advertise it much, so I wouldn't expect you to know it.

I celebrated with a new driver's license.  Just for giggles, here are my DL photos from 2013, 2017 and 2018.  The wig in the 2017 photo is the same one as in my current avatar.  The avatar version is after being trimmed and styled: big improvement.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1933/29892474707_1a168fd089_b.jpg)

I also celebrated with lunch out with my wife, and a new pair of earrings.  (Pics or it didn't happen: I'll post pics soon. :) )

And I got a nice present from the government: I'll be able to get my official "F" in January, instead of waiting for the Brits to change my birth certificate.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on September 21, 2018, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 21, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
Thanks, Stephanie.  I don't advertise it much, so I wouldn't expect you to know it.

I celebrated with a new driver's license.  Just for giggles, here are my DL photos from 2013, 2017 and 2018.  The wig in the 2017 photo is the same one as in my current avatar.  The current version is after being trimmed and styled.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1933/29892474707_1a168fd089_b.jpg)

I also celebrated with lunch out with my wife, and a new pair of earrings.  (Pics or it didn't happen: I'll post pics soon. :) )

And I got a nice present from the government: I'll be able to get my official "F" in January, instead of waiting for the Brits to change my birth certificate.

I like the latest picture best. I have no idea who that is on the left.

Congratulations on the new rules changes! I assume you're not interested in the "X" designator. [emoji16]

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on September 21, 2018, 03:11:35 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 21, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
Thanks, Stephanie.  I don't advertise it much, so I wouldn't expect you to know it.

I celebrated with a new driver's license.  Just for giggles, here are my DL photos from 2013, 2017 and 2018:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1933/29892474707_1a168fd089_b.jpg)

I also celebrated with lunch out with my wife, and a new pair of earrings.  (Pics or it didn't happen: I'll post pics soon. :) )

I also got a nice present from the government: I'll be able to get my official "F" in January, instead of waiting for the Brits to change my birth certificate.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Wow, what a dramatic contrast of your appearance as time marches on in your transtion journey.... of course comparing the 2013 photo to how you appear now is breathtaking.... and still a big change as shown in your last 2 license photos...   

.... and  very HAPPY BIRTHDAY wishes to you....   :icon_birthday:

Thank you for keeping your thread updated and for sharing with all of us.
Hugs and hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on September 21, 2018, 07:37:28 PM
Wow, Danielle stole the words from my mouth, Dramatic!  You look lovely Kathy.  And much younger than that guy on the left side!  Great news about the license change.  I know you can't wait!

 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Karen on September 21, 2018, 07:45:28 PM
Amazing and beautiful!!

So happy and excited for you.   

Happy birthday and hugs!!

Karen
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on September 21, 2018, 08:35:20 PM
Hi Kathy,

  Now let's see... oh yeah you looked really good in that blue dress. You make a very nice nice well dressed mature (not old) lady. Stately would be a good word. Now that I messed that complement up....
  I bet you are excited that you will be able to be in possession of a passport with your correct gender on it finally. Of course you do know that means? You will be obligated to make and eastern seaboard road trip down to see ... oh dang it what's their names.. I know them.  wait, .. wait.. oh yeah, there's Mornie and umm (St(ep)) .. oh heck the short one and her side kick Cassiopia (I think) and that other one way way down there. Oh you know, the one married to Lori,.. Fate! well something like that. I have faith you'll figure it out. There are others on the way you might visit too.
  And then, on the way back you can always stop in and visit that AnmieTea person and the adorable Debi her best half. There are a few others you might run into in the area too while you are passing through. Don't worry, I won't ask you to come hunting me down out here because even I, don't know where I might be.
  You might consider visiting the one in Inuit country Alaskan danger or something like that. After all, Alaska is right next door to Canada isn't it?

Happy Birthday, Katty!

Hugs,
  Laurie


@HappyMoni @Steph2.0 @SassyCassie @Faith @Anne Blake @Alaskan Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: HappyMoni on September 21, 2018, 08:55:53 PM
Oh yes, don't ya know, you should visit. We actually have stars in our skies here too. As Laurie Dyslexicon stated so eloquently, you have a virtual 'murderer's row' of trans folks to visit. We could call it your TransAmerica tour.

I love the new hottie avatar picture. Oh, I remember the ordeal with your name situation. Glad that is working out. For a while I thought Laurie might be in charge of your name/gender paperwork. Oh Gosh, can you imagine! You would probably be named  something even Hollywood couldn't make up, like Katness or something. Happy Birthday!
Moni
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on September 22, 2018, 06:39:40 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 21, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
Thanks, Stephanie.  I don't advertise it much, so I wouldn't expect you to know it.

I celebrated with a new driver's license.  Just for giggles, here are my DL photos from 2013, 2017 and 2018.  The wig in the 2017 photo is the same one as in my current avatar.  The avatar version is after being trimmed and styled: big improvement.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1933/29892474707_1a168fd089_b.jpg)

I also celebrated with lunch out with my wife, and a new pair of earrings.  (Pics or it didn't happen: I'll post pics soon. :) )

And I got a nice present from the government: I'll be able to get my official "F" in January, instead of waiting for the Brits to change my birth certificate.

The smile in the last picture says it all.....your eyes are smiling, the whole you is smiling.

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on September 22, 2018, 06:59:45 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 21, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
Thanks, Stephanie.  I don't advertise it much, so I wouldn't expect you to know it.

I celebrated with a new driver's license.  Just for giggles, here are my DL photos from 2013, 2017 and 2018.  The wig in the 2017 photo is the same one as in my current avatar.  The avatar version is after being trimmed and styled: big improvement.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1933/29892474707_1a168fd089_b.jpg)

I also celebrated with lunch out with my wife, and a new pair of earrings.  (Pics or it didn't happen: I'll post pics soon. :) )

And I got a nice present from the government: I'll be able to get my official "F" in January, instead of waiting for the Brits to change my birth certificate.

Wow Kathy 🌸 what a change in only 5 years.  You look beautiful now! 
Happy belated birthday!

Hugs and smiles from a California girl
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 24, 2018, 02:15:39 PM
Thanks, ladies, for your comments on my driver's license pictures.  I appreciate that you all made allowances for their being taken with the mugshot camera!   ;)

Here's something from the "That Was Weird" department:

I got a message on Facebook from some random woman in Alberta, asking if I was a speaker at a recent ladies' retreat at Camp S_____.  I messaged back that she must have gotten the wrong person.  But it turns out that there was a Kathy Walker, who is a Christian minister, speaking at Camp S_____, last week.  The camp appears to be a bible camp, and I don't think that the denomination it is associated with is trans-friendly.

So, the lady who messaged me probably didn't scroll down very far on my FB page, and judged me a candidate for the right Kathy based just on my name and picture.  Which means, I passed!  ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on September 24, 2018, 02:30:36 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 24, 2018, 02:15:39 PM
.....  Which means, I passed!  ;D

Was there a question of that somewhere that I missed?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 24, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
Quote from: Faith on September 24, 2018, 02:30:36 PM
Was there a question of that somewhere that I missed?
Well, I am still having a little trouble accepting it.  But occurrances like this are wearing my resistance down. :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on September 24, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 24, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
Well, I am still having a little trouble accepting it.  But occurrances like this are wearing my resistance down. :)

It's amazing how much evidence we need before we'll actually believe we're doing well. I'm reminded of an incident almost a full year ago when I was in a women's restroom waiting for a stall. One of the ladies commented that the lock didn't work on her stall door. The lady right next to me told her, "don't worry about it. It's not like there are any men in here."

I know I'm doing a lot better now than I was then. And yet it's still hard for me to fully believe in myself. When will I ever learn?

You are doing great, Kathy. Believe it, hon!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on September 24, 2018, 08:08:58 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on September 24, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
It's amazing how much evidence we need before we'll actually believe we're doing well...

You are doing great, Kathy. Believe it, hon!

Stephanie

Yes certainly do believe it.  Look at that face!  At this point I don't know how much further evidence you need.   You look good in causal clothing and smashing when all dressed to the Nine!
Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on September 24, 2018, 08:17:01 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 24, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
Well, I am still having a little trouble accepting it.  But occurrances like this are wearing my resistance down. :)

It will take time but until you can see it, you can trust that the rest of can see what this woman saw. It takes me ages to see the changes as well in myself but this out of the blue affirmation is one of those unexpected pleasures. Nice  :)

Take care
Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on September 27, 2018, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 24, 2018, 02:33:36 PM
Well, I am still having a little trouble accepting it.  But occurrances like this are wearing my resistance down. :)

Both Deb and I tried to tell you but I don't think that you were listening

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 28, 2018, 07:29:05 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 11, 2018, 02:09:03 PM
I don't usually have call to post in this thread, but today I found out that, after a year of waiting to see a shrink, it will be at least another year before I will get an appointment date.  It is for my second referral letter for GRS.

On the one hand, I have been waiting for this for 63 years, so what's another couple of years?  But I am not getting any younger, and each year that passes brings the grim reaper a year closer. 

I want this transition to be over.  Wa-a-a-a-ahhhh!!! [/tantrum]
A couple of weeks ago, I made the above post in the 'Unhappy' thread.  Well, surprise, I got a call out of the blue from the psychiatrist's office: they had a cancellation on Tuesday, did I want the appointment?  Duh!  I'll have to reschedule an electrolysis session, and my wife, unfortunately, will have to make alternative transportation arrangements for an appointment of hers.  But, heck, yes, I want it!

I guess that being the squeaky wheel makes a difference.  I am sure they pulled up my name to fill the cancellation because I called two weeks ago.

(Good thing I'm getting the muffler fixed on the car on Monday.  It would have been a loud seven-hour drive otherwise!)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on September 28, 2018, 07:34:23 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 28, 2018, 07:29:05 AM
A couple of weeks ago, I made the above post in the 'Unhappy' thread.  Well, surprise, I got a call out of the blue from the psychiatrist's office: they had a cancellation on Tuesday, did I want the appointment?  Duh!  I'll have to reschedule an electrolysis session, and my wife, unfortunately, will have to make alternative transportation arrangements for an appointment of hers.  But, heck, yes, I want it!

I guess that being the squeaky wheel makes a difference.  I am sure they pulled up my name to fill the cancellation because I called two weeks ago.

(Good thing I'm getting the muffler fixed on the car on Monday.  It would have been a loud seven-hour drive otherwise!)

I'm so happy to hear that, Kathy. None of this happens fast enough for any of us, and the thought of a two-year wait for just a consultation is excruciating. Congratulations for getting in earlier!

Wow, a seven hour drive? I guess I should stop complaining about my 1:25 drive for weekly HNT!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on September 28, 2018, 07:41:02 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on September 28, 2018, 07:34:23 AM
Wow, a seven hour drive? I guess I should stop complaining about my 1:25 drive for weekly HNT!
Well, seven total.  Three and a half each way.  It's a lot of driving for a one-hour appointment, but I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on September 28, 2018, 09:47:31 AM
YAY! .. I hope you letter .. get lettered .. get your letter.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 02, 2018, 02:12:18 PM
I'm getting it!!  I posted this in the Happy thread:

Quote from: KathyLauren on October 02, 2018, 02:10:15 PM
Seems like I spent all day driving, but half an hour of that day and the reason for the drive was an appointment with a psychiatrist to get my second surgery letter.  Woo-hoo!  I'm getting it!  No further appointments necessary, it will be in the mail as soon as she can dictate it and get it typed up.

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on October 02, 2018, 02:25:26 PM
YAY!!!!!!  I'll post here, again ... YAY!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 02, 2018, 02:37:19 PM
Happy happy happy happy happy!!!

The forums have been such a happy place lately!!!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 02, 2018, 04:24:48 PM
Quote from: Faith on September 28, 2018, 09:47:31 AM
YAY! .. I hope you letter .. get lettered .. get your letter.

Letter rip!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 02, 2018, 04:31:22 PM
Wait, I just realized what I read:


No further appointments necessary, it will be in the mail as soon as she can dictate it and get it typed up.


I can't help but picture your doctor leaning back with her feet on the desk, saying, "Now read that back, Miss Hathaway... Good! Now get it down to the typing pool and see they get it sent to Ms. Kathy ASAP! And get me a light for my cigar!"
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on October 02, 2018, 08:00:39 PM
Congratulations on checking off another milestone on the journey!  Wonderful news!
Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on October 02, 2018, 09:35:53 PM


  YAY !!!! Kathy !!

I am so happy for you. I just posted in my thread that I will probably be able to pick up both of my letters for GCS on the 22nd (I have to sign a release too) I am still looking at a 2 year wait after I get my referral. It could happen someday. But on the bright side I have 2 years to get used to the idea of having it done (or to change my mind) lol.

  I hope you don't have a long delay at all. Congrats Kathy.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on October 03, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on September 28, 2018, 07:29:05 AM
A couple of weeks ago, I made the above post in the 'Unhappy' thread.  Well, surprise, I got a call out of the blue from the psychiatrist's office: they had a cancellation on Tuesday, did I want the appointment?  Duh!  I'll have to reschedule an electrolysis session, and my wife, unfortunately, will have to make alternative transportation arrangements for an appointment of hers.  But, heck, yes, I want it!

I guess that being the squeaky wheel makes a difference.  I am sure they pulled up my name to fill the cancellation because I called two weeks ago.

(Good thing I'm getting the muffler fixed on the car on Monday.  It would have been a loud seven-hour drive otherwise!)

@kathyLauren

Hi Kathy

What fabulous wonderful surprise...Sounds like you could be on your way... :)

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on October 04, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
Congrats Kathy. That is such wonderful news.

Do you have possession of the letter yet?
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What about now?
.
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.
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Now?
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Do you have it now? What's the hold up?


So happy for you. I hope you don't have to wait to long to get a date with the surgeon.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 04, 2018, 10:14:26 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on October 04, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
Congrats Kathy. That is such wonderful news.

Do you have possession of the letter yet?
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.
What about now?
.
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.
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Now?
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Do you have it now? What's the hold up?


So happy for you. I hope you don't have to wait to long to get a date with the surgeon.

Hugs,
Jayne

OHHH, look who's being impatient while she makes the world wait breathlessly for her squeeesplosive news on her own thread! Hmmmph.

A Friend
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on October 04, 2018, 10:26:15 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on October 04, 2018, 10:14:26 AM
OHHH, look who's being impatient while she makes the world wait breathlessly for her squeeesplosive news on her own thread! Hmmmph.

A Friend
Oops!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on October 04, 2018, 10:48:03 AM
Oh my Kathy? Where have you been hiding this thread? Are you keeping things from me >:(? I can't believe I've been missing out on all this fun. But wait,, Some of this already seems familiar? Yet another wonderful story I want to catch up with. I'll be back once I catch up from the beginning.

Hugs Kathy!
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 04, 2018, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: Jayne01 on October 04, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
Do you have possession of the letter yet?
[snip]
Do you have it now? What's the hold up?
Don't worry, Jayne, when I get the letter in my hands, you will hear the SQUEEEEEE all the way down under!

Thanks, everyone, for helping me celebrate.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on October 05, 2018, 07:42:41 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 04, 2018, 05:43:50 PM
Thanks, everyone, for helping me celebrate.
Party at Kathy's place!!!!!! Wooooooohoooooooo!!! [emoji1323][emoji1323][emoji1323][emoji1323][emoji1323][emoji1323]
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 05, 2018, 07:59:49 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on October 05, 2018, 07:42:41 AM
Party at Kathy's place!!!!!! Wooooooohoooooooo!!! [emoji1323][emoji1323][emoji1323][emoji1323][emoji1323][emoji1323]

Woooohoooo!  Passport is out and ready!


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on October 05, 2018, 08:03:14 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on October 05, 2018, 07:59:49 AM
Woooohoooo!  Passport is out and ready!


Stephanie
Oh wait!!!! I forgot. I don't have my new passport yet......hold off on the party. [emoji23]
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 05, 2018, 08:04:06 AM
Quote from: Jayne01 on October 05, 2018, 08:03:14 AM
Oh wait!!!! I forgot. I don't have my new passport yet......hold off on the party. [emoji23]

Running... trip... faceplant.


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on October 05, 2018, 08:44:17 AM
I so happy things are going your way Kathy.  Time sure has flown by since we met and I was learning the ropes of being a Greeter.  You've found a way to fulfillment as a woman and the smile on your face shows it.

Hugs and smiles from a California girl
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on October 05, 2018, 11:00:16 AM
Whoohooo Kathy!
I'm glad your holding off on the party. I haven't got my passport yet either.

Oh dear Stephanie! Let me help you up hun. Are you ok? :o. Yes dear, you look fine. Hiding my <<ewww>>. Lets get that looked at.

Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Karen on October 05, 2018, 11:43:32 AM
Kathy, very happy and excited for you!!!   

Hugs.

Karen
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on October 05, 2018, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 04, 2018, 05:43:50 PM
Don't worry, Jayne, when I get the letter in my hands, you will hear the SQUEEEEEE all the way down under!

Thanks, everyone, for helping me celebrate.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Well, did you get the letter yet? 
Go to your mailbox right now and check to see if it arrived... PLEASE.
We want to know!!!!

Hugs,
Danielle


This is so very exciting.... 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 11, 2018, 07:51:07 AM
Today is Wendy's and my 15th anniversary.  I never thought, 15 years ago, that I'd be where I am today, and she had even less idea.  But, clearly, I chose well, because my wife has stuck by me on this remarkable journey.  I love her more than words can say.

Just for giggles, here is our wedding photo:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1977/31370876948_63ffa35126_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on October 11, 2018, 08:09:19 AM
Hi Kathy

Wow what a difference a few years will make, you are hardly recognisable from that now. I was thinking of the photo you have, of you in the blue dress for Tia and Deb's wedding.

Congratulations on your 15th anniversary we just had ours on 10/10 but for us that was yesterday...:) hope you had a great day together.


Take care


Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 11, 2018, 08:18:17 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 11, 2018, 07:51:07 AM
Today is Wendy's and my 15th anniversary.  I never thought, 15 years ago, that I'd be where I am today, and she had even less idea.  But, clearly, I chose well, because my wife has stuck by me on this remarkable journey.  I love her more than words can say.

Just for giggles, here is our wedding photo:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1977/31370876948_63ffa35126_b.jpg)

You look fantastic in that photo! Who's the guy to your left? (And is that a ponytail?)

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 11, 2018, 08:24:34 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on October 11, 2018, 08:18:17 AM
You look fantastic in that photo! Who's the guy to your left? (And is that a ponytail?)

Stephanie
LOL, he's some dude that crashed the wedding.  :D 

Yes, I stopped cutting my hair in about 1984, and wore it in a ponytail right up until it came time to stuff it under a wig.  The longest I ever had it was about shoulder length.  That was a function of growth rate and follicle lifetime, not of scissors.  And yes, that should have been a clue.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 11, 2018, 08:27:25 AM
Quote from: LizK on October 11, 2018, 08:09:19 AM
Hi Kathy

Wow what a difference a few years will make, you are hardly recognisable from that now. I was thinking of the photo you have, of you in the blue dress for Tia and Deb's wedding.

Congratulations on your 15th anniversary we just had ours on 10/10 but for us that was yesterday...:) hope you had a great day together.


Take care


Liz
Liz, thank you, and a belated congratulations on your anniversary.

We were planning to drive over to the south shore to play tourist.  But the weather is calling for heavy rain, so we are just going out for dinner.
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 11, 2018, 08:45:14 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 11, 2018, 08:24:34 AM
LOL, he's some dude that crashed the wedding.  [emoji2] 

Yes, I stopped cutting my hair in about 1984, and wore it in a ponytail right up until it came time to stuff it under a wig.  The longest I ever had it was about shoulder length.  That was a function of growth rate and follicle lifetime, not of scissors.  And yes, that should have been a clue.

I stopped cutting mine about '98, when I realized that the hippies I worked for couldn't care less. The owner and president himself sported a ponytail. Mine would grow about halfway down my back. And yes, I knew exactly what I was doing. It was always tied back in public, and always loose when the curtains were closed.

The thought of cutting it makes me a little nauseous, but I'm going to try a shoulder-length feminine cut and see how I like it, now that I have hope that'll grow back out again.

By the way, a friend of mine had resigned herself to wearing wigs the rest of her life, then bought one of those laser caps, and no longer wears one. She swears by it and highly recommends it (no, she doesn't sell them). I may get one when I have the $400 and see if it helps with regrowth and density. The doctor who will be doing my grafts at Facialteam also recommends those caps, along with platelet rich plasma (PRP) treatments. He does neither of those procedures, so he seems believable.


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on October 11, 2018, 09:49:07 AM
well, you wouldn't want to accident sit on your cap, that's for sure. You'd get arrested for hairyassment.



Kathy, you always look good but I am struggling to find you in that recent photo.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 11, 2018, 09:59:10 AM
Quote from: Faith on October 11, 2018, 09:49:07 AM
well, you wouldn't want to accident sit on your cap, that's for sure. You'd get arrested for hairyassment.

Well, I could say something that would be TMI, but instead I'll just groan and throw a rotten tomato or two.



Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on October 12, 2018, 06:28:52 AM
Happy anniversary Kathy! Congratulations for reaching 15 years and wishing many many more.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on October 12, 2018, 02:04:04 PM
Don't you just hate it when dudes keep crashing weddings?

Hugs Kathy!
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Karen on October 13, 2018, 06:46:15 AM
Just catching up Kathy. 

I can't wait to hear about your letter...   

Happy anniversary.  Wow 15 years can change a lot.   I love your reference to your wife!    She sounds amazing.   What has the journey been like for her?   My sense is you have been a big part of her story given the gratitude and care you show all of us?

Big hugs

Karen
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 13, 2018, 07:15:22 AM
Quote from: Karen on October 13, 2018, 06:46:15 AM
Just catching up Kathy. 

I can't wait to hear about your letter...   

Happy anniversary.  Wow 15 years can change a lot.   I love your reference to your wife!    She sounds amazing.   What has the journey been like for her?   My sense is you have been a big part of her story given the gratitude and care you show all of us?

Big hugs

Karen
Thanks, Karen. 

Yes, I can't wait to hear about my letter, too.  (*fingers drumming*)  It wasn't in the mailbox yesterday.  Hopefully Monday.  I have an appointment with my HRT doc on Tuesday, originally scheduled to discuss alternative sources for my second letter when it looked like a long wait for it.  If I have it in my hands on Tuesday, then we can talk about moving forward with my application for GRS.

My wife is amazing.  :D  My coming out to her was a total surprise: she didn't see it coming.  Yet, within the first minute, literally, she said, "Whatever you decide to do, I will support you."  She takes the "for better or for worse" part of our marriage vows literally.  In her view, she did sign up for this, even though she didn't expect it.

She was a little weirded out by becoming a "lesbian" through no choice of her own.  I don't think she identifies as lesbian herself, though she totally owns that we are a same-sex couple.  She has fun with it, and we often hold hands when out and about.  She gets as much of a kick out of the two of us being addressed as "ladies" as I do.

Surprisingly, we don't talk a lot about this stuff.  So I can't really tell you how it has been for her.  I know that she has gotten good support from her email friends, as well as from attending the "+1" meetings of the support group.

She has stood by her word and supported me every step of this journey.

Hugs.
Kathy
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on October 13, 2018, 07:34:09 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 11, 2018, 07:51:07 AM
Today is Wendy's and my 15th anniversary.  I never thought, 15 years ago, that I'd be where I am today, and she had even less idea.  But, clearly, I chose well, because my wife has stuck by me on this remarkable journey.  I love her more than words can say.

Just for giggles, here is our wedding photo:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1977/31370876948_63ffa35126_b.jpg)

Happy anniversary to you two!  My, things do change for the better sometimes.  I hope for continued love between the both of you.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on October 13, 2018, 02:15:01 PM
Oh I'm sorry I missed that Kathy. Happy 15th anniversary you two.

Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Karen on October 13, 2018, 02:36:34 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 13, 2018, 07:15:22 AM
Thanks, Karen. 

Yes, I can't wait to hear about my letter, too.  (*fingers drumming*)  It wasn't in the mailbox yesterday.  Hopefully Monday.  I have an appointment with my HRT doc on Tuesday, originally scheduled to discuss alternative sources for my second letter when it looked like a long wait for it.  If I have it in my hands on Tuesday, then we can talk about moving forward with my application for GRS.

My wife is amazing.  :D  My coming out to her was a total surprise: she didn't see it coming.  Yet, within the first minute, literally, she said, "Whatever you decide to do, I will support you."  She takes the "for better or for worse" part of our marriage vows literally.  In her view, she did sign up for this, even though she didn't expect it.

She was a little weirded out by becoming a "lesbian" through no choice of her own.  I don't think she identifies as lesbian herself, though she totally owns that we are a same-sex couple.  She has fun with it, and we often hold hands when out and about.  She gets as much of a kick out of the two of us being addressed as "ladies" as I do.

Surprisingly, we don't talk a lot about this stuff.  So I can't really tell you how it has been for her.  I know that she has gotten good support from her email friends, as well as from attending the "+1" meetings of the support group.

She has stood by her word and supported me every step of this journey.

Hugs.
Kathy

So nice.  What an amazing team you are!

Thinking of you!

Karen
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Autrement on October 13, 2018, 02:51:37 PM
Kathy, this is great! Congratulations, this is very inspiring.

Pascale
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 13, 2018, 06:08:24 PM
Thank you to everyone who posted congratulations on our anniversary. :)

Yesterday, our neighbours, who had a baby four months ago, invited us over for tea to meet the baby.  We have hardly seen them since the baby shower, since they have been understandably busy and tired.  It was good to catch up.

Our neighbours are lesbians, so it was an all-girl session.  It was especially affirming for me, being included in the graphic descriptions of the birth process that would never have been discussed if there was a man in the room!

The baby, by the way, is super-cute, with a smile to die for.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on October 14, 2018, 10:10:07 AM
Wow! That's great news Kathy. It's always big news when a new life is brought into the world.

Girl or Boy?

Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 16, 2018, 12:34:54 PM
Progress to report.  I still don't have the letter in my hands, but I had an appointment with my HRT doctor, who will be coordinating my surgery and recovery.  Without the letter, the meeting is a bit premature, but the letter is immanent.  (I made the appointment a month ago to discuss a plan B, when it looked like it would be another year before I got my second letter.  It was easier to keep it than to make a new one.)

So, I filled in the application form for insurance funding.  As soon as the second letter comes in, she will sent the whole package off to the insurance people.  Apparently, their replies are coming quickly now: weeks, instead of months.  With their approval, she will send the application off to Dr. Brassard's clinic.  She said not to expect a reply from them in less than three months.  Brassard's waiting list is currently about 12 months, though I do hear from time to time of people getting in quicker if there is a cancellation.

My doctor said that she doesn't think I will need an attendant when I go to Montreal.  The main purpose of an attendant is to carry luggage on the return journey.  Since I won't have a lot of luggage, it shouldn't be too hard to get cabbies, porters and airline staff to help with that.  She has another client who has physical and mental disabilities, who went on their own and had no difficulties, in spite of having the full-depth procedure.  I will be getting the zero-depth procedure, and I am in excellent health, so I should expect to be in better shape than that client when I return.

TL;DR
I signed the form and pressed the "start button" on my surgery application.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on October 16, 2018, 12:57:49 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
WHAT???  NO LETTER YET???    ???
In your previous postings you promised us all that you would have the letter ASAP!!!   ;)

Well, certainly the good news is that you are getting all of your ducks lined up in a row so things are progressing basically as you were hoping that they would. 

As you and your doctors are rightfully concerned about lifting very much weight post surgery... please, just be very careful... you do not want to strain anything that you have waited so long to have fixed.  Please don't take any unnecessary chances... do not lift anything much over 20 pounds are the orders that I heard from my doctors when post surgery precautions are discussed.
At the airport you can easily arrange to have one of the airline personnel shuffle you and your luggage around in one of those motorized carts and even get priority boarding.  It may be best to make that arrangement well before you get to the airport on your return voyage.

Please, as you are doing, keep your followers updated... we are you biggest fans and supporters.
By the way, you are looking very beautiful in your recent pictures.... you have experienced  a lot of terrific changes.

Thank you for sharing and posting.
Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on October 16, 2018, 01:14:58 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 13, 2018, 06:08:24 PM
Thank you to everyone who posted congratulations on our anniversary. :)

Yesterday, our neighbours, who had a baby four months ago, invited us over for tea to meet the baby.  We have hardly seen them since the baby shower, since they have been understandably busy and tired.  It was good to catch up.

Our neighbours are lesbians, so it was an all-girl session.  It was especially affirming for me, being included in the graphic descriptions of the birth process that would never have been discussed if there was a man in the room!

The baby, by the way, is super-cute, with a smile to die for.


@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Yes, certainly congratulations to you on your Anniversary... the "old" past picture that you recemt;u posted of you and your wife kinda looked like you...  but no more!!!  Happy Anniversary, and many more to come.

Yes indeed, getting accepted into the "circle" of all-girl conversations is so very affirming.

Back last Spring I was invited to a baby shower with about a dozen other women, some in attendance were my good friends...  and my Suitor#4 was there and she sat next to me.   
One of the women that I had just met in the group during the refreshment time asked me who my husband was and did we have children... she had no idea that I was not a cis-female.  #4 who was standing next to me poked me in the ribs and had a big grin on her face when I was asked that by the woman...

These kinds of all-girl events are an exciting thing to experience, and Kathy, as you stated, the conversations that took place would not have happened if there were a man there.   Very affirming and confidence building for sure.

Thank you for sharing this...  I am glad that you posted your all-girl experience.
Hugs and hugs,
Danielle



Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 16, 2018, 01:16:22 PM
Thanks, Danielle.  :)

Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on October 16, 2018, 12:57:49 PM
WHAT???  NO LETTER YET???    ???

That's what I said!  Well, all my ducks are lined up, so when it comes, I'll fax it in and the show will be on the road.

Quote
do not lift anything much over 20 pounds are the orders that I heard from my doctors

My doc said 10 lbs.  I'll go with the lower number, so no worries there.  I'll get luggage with wheels, and I'll get someone else to do any lifting.  After waiting 64, maybe 65 years to get my kitty, I intend to take good care of her!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on October 16, 2018, 04:38:59 PM
The process has commenced! How very exciting for you Kathy. The letter is on its way, so I hope it does not cause any delays in the process. Congratulations on pressing "GO"!

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 18, 2018, 05:37:00 PM
OMG, Kathy! I had no idea crime was this bad in Nova Scotia!!

https://globalnews.ca/news/4567392/rcmp-reminds-nova-scotians-to-lock-their-doors-after-pair-enter-wrong-home-clean-it/?fbclid=IwAR0WVlSlx0EAbmrpUL22dTaK7ODUX165j9pLVBt4iUFQrQIw9ayA3Z3fo9U (https://globalnews.ca/news/4567392/rcmp-reminds-nova-scotians-to-lock-their-doors-after-pair-enter-wrong-home-clean-it/?fbclid=IwAR0WVlSlx0EAbmrpUL22dTaK7ODUX165j9pLVBt4iUFQrQIw9ayA3Z3fo9U)

I think I'll leave my doors unlocked.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on October 18, 2018, 09:15:46 PM
Wonderful news Kathy.  Another step closer!!
Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on October 19, 2018, 11:17:44 AM
Kathy! I hope you are locking your door when you leave your hoes. Those two hussies. How dare they commit such a horrific act.

Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 19, 2018, 11:25:21 AM
Yes, @Steph2.0 and @Donica, home invasion cleanings are a major problem here.  When confronting illegal cleaners, the RCMP recommend saying a polite "Thank you".
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on October 19, 2018, 11:30:28 AM
My God, what's next? Drive-by compliments??!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on October 19, 2018, 05:32:39 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 13, 2018, 07:15:22 AM
Thanks, Karen. 

Yes, I can't wait to hear about my letter, too.  (*fingers drumming*)  It wasn't in the mailbox yesterday.  Hopefully Monday.  I have an appointment with my HRT doc on Tuesday, originally scheduled to discuss alternative sources for my second letter when it looked like a long wait for it.  If I have it in my hands on Tuesday, then we can talk about moving forward with my application for GRS.

My wife is amazing.  :D  My coming out to her was a total surprise: she didn't see it coming.  Yet, within the first minute, literally, she said, "Whatever you decide to do, I will support you."  She takes the "for better or for worse" part of our marriage vows literally.  In her view, she did sign up for this, even though she didn't expect it.

She was a little weirded out by becoming a "lesbian" through no choice of her own.  I don't think she identifies as lesbian herself, though she totally owns that we are a same-sex couple.  She has fun with it, and we often hold hands when out and about.  She gets as much of a kick out of the two of us being addressed as "ladies" as I do.

Surprisingly, we don't talk a lot about this stuff.  So I can't really tell you how it has been for her.  I know that she has gotten good support from her email friends, as well as from attending the "+1" meetings of the support group.

She has stood by her word and supported me every step of this journey.

Hugs.
Kathy

I know this is probably old but I have just managed to catch up on your thread and what you have been up too,

Congratulations on your anniversary...I read with interest where you describe your wife's reaction to you coming out and her unwavering commitment to your vows...mine grinned at me and said "Don't think you get out of this marriage that easily.." which for us was the perfect response. having someone like your wife as your biggest supporter goes a long way to help when times get hard during this tumultuous journey.

My wife was kind of amused by the whole "lesbian" thing as she doesn't see herself as anything but straight however the rest of society tend to want to place our wives in the lesbian category...which when you think about it is totally absurd to what we know about homosexuality....because you transitioned your wife is now gay? kind of weird one really isn't it.

Support for our partners is paramount if our relationships are to survive...I hope the letter turns up and is exactly what you need. The woman who wrote the 3 page report for me had to add a line to it after submitting it to my surgeon. The only thing it was missing was the most important part..."I am satisfied that (insert name)has met the WPATH stands"...when I spoke to the surgeons office they basically said as long as this line is in the letter then it covers everything. I hope getting the second won is easy for you...

Take care

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 22, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Three weeks ago tomorrow, I went to the psychiatrist for the interview that would get me my second surgery letter.  She said it would take a couple of weeks.  It seems you have to be a squeaky wheel with this one, so today, I called to ask where my letter is.

The secretary said it hadn't crossed her desk, so she'd check for me.  The result: apparently, the letter is "a work in progress".  My wife's assessment is that that means the shrink hasn't started writing it yet. >:(

And now, there is a postal strike. >:(

Aaaaargh!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Rayna on October 22, 2018, 08:51:21 PM
I'm so sorry for the delay, Kathy! And from my understanding, nobody really cares what's in the letter except that one magic phrase. The psychiatrist should just knock out your letter and be done with it. Sometimes people take themselves too seriously. I hope it comes soon. Maybe you can pay for FedEx?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on October 22, 2018, 10:38:02 PM
Sorry you are still being kept waiting Kathy. Keep that wheel squeaking and make as much noice as necessary to get what you need. I hope they start on this "work in progress" soon so that you can move onto the next stage.

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on October 23, 2018, 12:53:18 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 22, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Three weeks ago tomorrow, I went to the psychiatrist for the interview that would get me my second surgery letter.  She said it would take a couple of weeks.  It seems you have to be a squeaky wheel with this one, so today, I called to ask where my letter is.

The secretary said it hadn't crossed her desk, so she'd check for me.  The result: apparently, the letter is "a work in progress".  My wife's assessment is that that means the shrink hasn't started writing it yet. >:(

And now, there is a postal strike. >:(

Aaaaargh!!!

Hi Kathy

I know how frustrating these holdups can be...Hopefully the shrink will get their act together and write the letter...if only they realised how much anxiety this all causes...hope its all sorted soon.

take care

Liz
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on October 23, 2018, 10:19:27 AM
That's the key. Keep squeaking ringing her phone Kathy. You'll get it soon. The SoCal court system is no different. You know ya gota be vigilant.

Hugs,
Donica.

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on October 23, 2018, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 22, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Three weeks ago tomorrow, I went to the psychiatrist for the interview that would get me my second surgery letter.  She said it would take a couple of weeks.  It seems you have to be a squeaky wheel with this one, so today, I called to ask where my letter is.

The secretary said it hadn't crossed her desk, so she'd check for me.  The result: apparently, the letter is "a work in progress".  My wife's assessment is that that means the shrink hasn't started writing it yet. >:(

And now, there is a postal strike. >:(

Aaaaargh!!!
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Waiting is not a fun thing to do.   The old adage that "Patience is a Virtue" is so easy to say but it is most difficult waiting for things that should have taken place sooner.

As @Donica implied.... the squeaky wheel gets the grease.  Be persitent and tenacious as you wait.
Arghhh is right... now a postal strike???

I will be eagerly awaiting your good new report, perhaps today?

Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 23, 2018, 08:03:39 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on October 23, 2018, 03:55:17 PMThe old adage that "Patience is a Virtue" is so easy to say but it is most difficult waiting for things that should have taken place sooner.

Luckily for me, I learned "hurry up and wait" in the Air Force.  I am good at waiting; I just hate doing it!

Thanks for the well-wishes, @Alaskan Danielle , @LizK, @Donica, @Jayne01, @RandyL!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on October 24, 2018, 06:12:33 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 23, 2018, 08:03:39 PM
Luckily for me, I learned "hurry up and wait" in the Air Force.  I am good at waiting; I just hate doing it!
I have also learned that same skill when I am working with the Air Force here. Still waiting on my birth certificate. Looks like we are both "hurry up and waiting" together. Wish there was more hurry and less wait! [emoji2]

Hugs (while tapping foot and looking at watch),
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 26, 2018, 07:38:27 AM
I am feeling seriously bummed at the slow-motion calamity that is befalling my sisters and brothers in the U.S.  The parallels to the 1930s are too clear.  I am thankful that I am north of the border and safe for now.  But how long before Trump annexes Canada and they come for me?  And if it takes another world war to stop him, what will life be like after?

Cis people I talk to about this think I am being alarmist.  I have learned to keep my mouth shut.  Online forums are filled with Nazis making excuses for him.  I have learned to keep my keyboard silent.  Keeping my mouth shut was what got me 60 years of dysphoria in the first place.

I don't want this post to provoke political discussion.  That is not what it is about.  This post is about the emotional cost of watching a train wreck and being powerless to stop it or help.  I should have chosen the name "Cassandra", because I see the future, but no one believes me.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on October 26, 2018, 12:32:38 PM
All we can do Kathy is stay positive and fight back, and never give up.

Pray for us all.
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: christinej78 on October 27, 2018, 01:03:29 AM
Hi Kathy,                  27 October 2018

I'll post any comment I may have to my thread.

Best Always, Love
Christine
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on October 28, 2018, 12:00:57 PM
I love it when coming out (on Facebook) to someone you haven't seen in nearly 40 years is this smooth...

Kathy:  Hi, D_____. Good to see you on here. We were contemporaries in A Flight, though you probably won't remember me under this name. I recall fetching a fuel cap for you from Fallon to Mountain Home. ;)

D_____:  hi Kathy. Yeah that was a memorable weekend. One of many.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on October 28, 2018, 02:39:47 PM
Best reaction ever....Controlling how and what information people get seems like a pretty wise move. Glad its working out so well for you.

Take care

Liz


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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 09, 2018, 01:17:30 PM
It has been a busy week, but nothing trans-related, other than just living life as me.

The play that I have been working on at the community theatre opens tonight.  That made this week "hell week", with three rehearsals in addition to last night's dress rehearsal.  The play is heavy with special effects and sound-and-light cues.  I am the sound and light girl, plus I operate the revolving wall, so it keeps me busy.  There are so many sound cues that I had to split them into two files.

The dress rehearsal went well last night.  The actors were "on", the set looks amazing, the special effects (mostly) worked, and I got all most of my cues right. ;)  We are looking forward to a good run.  It is a murder mystery, where the suspects are all actors in a Sherlock Holmes play.

The sump pump in our basement packed up in a rainstorm last week.  Not to worry: the water didn't come high enough to flood anything, but I was concerned.  Luckily, we had a spare, so today, I removed the old one and installed the replacement.  It works fine, just in time for the forecast heavy rain tomorrow.  When I tested the old pump after removing it, it ran fine, so it might have just had a stone jamming the impeller.  Since it runs, I'll keep it as the new spare.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on November 09, 2018, 01:28:21 PM
That sounds exciting Kathy! Will we get to see the play? Break a leg sound and light girl!

Hugs,
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 09, 2018, 02:14:25 PM
Well, the play is on for a month, so there is time to fly up here and see it.  Make reservations, though, because some shows are already sold out.  ;)

The promo photos from the dress rehearsal are not available yet, but here are photos of the set and the cast.  My wife is the woman on the right holding the long sword.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4896/44887725285_616e2e2720_b.jpg)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4804/44887725445_f4cb8ff5fd_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on November 09, 2018, 02:20:42 PM
I love it!!! The bottom picture says, "Mess with us and you get the whole arsenal". If I had the time and money, I would book a flight in a heartbeat.

Have fun you two.
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 11, 2018, 12:03:59 PM
Today is Remembrance Day in Canada (equivalent to Memorial Day in the U.S.) and my wife and I went to a ceremony a couple of villages up the coast.  A nice ceremony, mercifully short, and even more mercifully held indoors.  It was cold and very, very windy today!  Afterwards, there was a lunch at the community hall.

The lunch is a classic small village community hall: long tables where you sit with random other people, buffet at the end of the room.  I was doing a good job (for me) of chatting up the people around me.  My wife was sitting beside me, talking to a man diagonally opposite her, away from me.  Never shy about sharing her opinions, she brought their conversation around to Donald Trump.  I was thinking, "Don't go there!  He might be..."  Too late!  Yes he was a supporter.

I am very conflict-averse, so, while monitoring their conversation, I continued talking to the nice lady beside me.  Then my wife, as an example of T's policies mentioned his treatment of transgender people.  The man started spewing the kind of stuff you would expect of a Trump supporter on the subject.  I listened enough that the guy could tell that I was listening, and I rolled my eyes at the appropriate moments when my wife turned to me for a reaction.  But mostly, I wanted to hide.  Eventually, the guy realized that he was not on friendly soil and left.

The lady beside me had heard enough of the conversation to comment negatively on the guy after he had left.  The interesting thing is that I don't think either the Trump supporter or the lady beside me read me at all, in spite of the conversation being perilously close.

It is starting to sink in that I must be close to passing.  It is a strange new feeling.

Other good things at the event: my former laser technician was there, so I got a hug and some good catching up with her.  And I was able to keep my voice in the upper octave during the singing of "Oh Canada".  It wouldn't do to sing baritone in public.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on November 11, 2018, 01:09:18 PM
That's great news Kathy. As I read your update, I was anticipating the dreaded "OH NO! There she goes!", getting that Trolls face and telling him off.

Yes dear, you most certainly do pass. It is a SQUEEEWONDERFULFEELING!!!.

Our TDOR is next Sunday night. They are not being very merciful to us as the ceremony will last 3 hours. I volunteered so I will be there the whole night. Well past my bed time.

Hugs,
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 11, 2018, 02:05:09 PM
Here's an old family photo that my brother posted, that I hadn't seen before.  The people are my great-uncle and his sister, my grandmother.  From 1940.

It is easy to see where I get my figure (or lack thereof) from!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4909/45107822044_a8f85f073b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on November 11, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 11, 2018, 02:05:09 PM
Here's an old family photo that my brother posted, that I hadn't seen before.  The people are my great-uncle and his sister, my grandmother.  From 1940.

It is easy to see where I get my figure (or lack thereof) from!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4909/45107822044_a8f85f073b_b.jpg)

The resemblance is there and if you put her in a blue dress, in your mind... it's strikingly so.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on November 11, 2018, 02:27:56 PM
I see the resemblance too Kathy. Oh, and Jessica, Kathy's grandmother is wearing a blue dress ;).

Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on November 11, 2018, 10:00:25 PM
Apples never fall far from the tree!  The family resemblance is certainly apparent.  What a wonderful photo.  Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on November 11, 2018, 10:41:07 PM
What a great story and I think you are right they saw you as "just another woman"...wooohoooo....nicely done and it would seem you are very right about your ability to pass.

Take care

Liz


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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: sarah1972 on November 12, 2018, 09:38:56 AM
Wow - the resemblance is absolutely stunning. There is absolutely no denying your heritage here. Both of you are beautiful women.

Also congratulations on the Remembrance Day Lunch and all the passing. This is one of the things which keeps creeping up on you, but to be fair - in your avatar, I only see a beautiful woman!

Hugs, Sarah

Quote from: KathyLauren on November 11, 2018, 02:05:09 PM
Here's an old family photo that my brother posted, that I hadn't seen before.  The people are my great-uncle and his sister, my grandmother.  From 1940.

It is easy to see where I get my figure (or lack thereof) from!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4909/45107822044_a8f85f073b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 13, 2018, 06:51:40 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on October 22, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Three weeks ago tomorrow, I went to the psychiatrist for the interview that would get me my second surgery letter.  She said it would take a couple of weeks.  It seems you have to be a squeaky wheel with this one, so today, I called to ask where my letter is.

The secretary said it hadn't crossed her desk, so she'd check for me.  The result: apparently, the letter is "a work in progress".  My wife's assessment is that that means the shrink hasn't started writing it yet. >:(

And now, there is a postal strike. >:(

Aaaaargh!!!
Well, my wife was right: the shrink hadn't started writing the letter.  After another "squeaky wheel" call to the office last week, I got a phone call from her secretary: the letter is being written as we speak, and will be mailed next week.  She said.  We'll see.

Oh, what the hell, squeee, anyway!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on November 14, 2018, 05:42:20 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 13, 2018, 06:51:40 PM
Well, my wife was right: the shrink hadn't started writing the letter.  After another "squeaky wheel" call to the office last week, I got a phone call from her secretary: the letter is being written as we speak, and will be mailed next week.  She said.  We'll see.

Oh, what the hell, squeee, anyway!

how do you grrr and squeee at the same time?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on November 14, 2018, 06:01:40 AM
Kathy, that is definitely worthy of a squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee until proven otherwise!

Maybe you can squeeeeeekkkk to make sure they hear your noise so that letter gets written. Keep the pressure on until you get what you need!

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

Hugs,
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 20, 2018, 01:46:28 PM
I should have known better than to get my hopes up!  >:(  I got a call from my doctor wondering where the letter was.  (I told her it was "imminent" over a month ago!)  So, a perfect excuse to call the shrink's secretary again.  Nope, no letter yet.  With the postal strike, I asked her to fax it directly to my doctor, and to call me when it is on its way.

*SIGH*  ::)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on November 20, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
Wow! Is it stuck in snail mail or is your therapist just dragging their feet?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 20, 2018, 02:09:44 PM
She is dragging her feet.  I have been calling her office every couple of weeks, asking where it is.  She keeps saying, "Soon."   >:(
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on November 20, 2018, 02:27:17 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 20, 2018, 02:09:44 PM
She is dragging her feet.  I have been calling her office every couple of weeks, asking where it is.  She keeps saying, "Soon."   >:(

What the heck!? I thought your therapist was supposed to be your advocate! Has she never written such a letter before? If she has any experience she should have a boilerplate she can fill in. Maybe you need to supply her something to start with. I can send you a copy of one of mine if you think it would help.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on November 20, 2018, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 20, 2018, 02:09:44 PM
She is dragging her feet.  I have been calling her office every couple of weeks, asking where it is.  She keeps saying, "Soon."   >:(

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
This is so sad to hear... why, oh why, are they procrastinating?
Have you considered personally going to your therapist's office and nicely talking to them about getting your letter... and you can be firm and gently demanding at the same time.  ???  ???

Wishing you well and I am hoping to hear good news about this from you soon.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 20, 2018, 03:26:10 PM
This psychiatrist is not my therapist.  My therapist's letter has been on file for months.  This person is a stranger, to whom I was referred by my doctor for my second letter.  It made sense at the time, since she had a "short" waiting list: only one year.

I suspect the delay is due to workload.  Everything related to health care in Nova Scotia runs in slow motion because the system is understaffed.  In addition to that, she is probably prioritizing office visits over letter writing, because, I am guessing, she gets paid more for an office visit than for writing letters.

Dropping in and talking to her would require a full day of driving (3.5 hours each way), and would not likely gain me anything.  I think I get better results by annoying her secretary. 

Now, my HRT doctor knows about the letter fiasco, so perhaps she can lean on the shrink, too.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on November 20, 2018, 07:20:54 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 20, 2018, 03:26:10 PM
This psychiatrist is not my therapist.  My therapist's letter has been on file for months.  This person is a stranger, to whom I was referred by my doctor for my second letter.  It made sense at the time, since she had a "short" waiting list: only one year.

I suspect the delay is due to workload.  Everything related to health care in Nova Scotia runs in slow motion because the system is understaffed.  In addition to that, she is probably prioritizing office visits over letter writing, because, I am guessing, she gets paid more for an office visit than for writing letters.

Dropping in and talking to her would require a full day of driving (3.5 hours each way), and would not likely gain me anything.  I think I get better results by annoying her secretary. 

Now, my HRT doctor knows about the letter fiasco, so perhaps she can lean on the shrink, too.

Kathy it might be a nice day of enjoying a nice drive, see the sights.  Go about as your beautiful self doing what people do, make it a day.  Arrive, gather yourself.....
Then enter as a lovely lady into the psychiatrist office and ask........ "Is there a problem?!?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 26, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
SQUEEEEEEE!!

My letter exists and is being faxed to my doctor as I type, with a hard-copy followup to me by snail mail.  It only took about 12 months to get the appointment and 8 weeks since then to get the letter.  ::)  Oh, well, at least I'll have it now and the rest of the process can begin.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on November 26, 2018, 02:39:52 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 26, 2018, 02:34:08 PM


My letter exists and is being faxed to my doctor as I type, with a hard-copy followup to me by snail mail.  It only took about 12 months to get the appointment and 8 weeks since then to get the letter.  ::)  Oh, well, at least I'll have it now and the rest of the process can begin.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Finally! I am so glad that you received your important letter and have now forwarded on to your doctor so that your important step in your journey can be taken.... 

PLEASE.... 
...just as soon as you get a firm date please let us all know so we can count-down the days with you.

Yes indeed....
      SQUEEEEEEE!!

Hugs, well wishes to you, and congratulations!!!!
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on November 26, 2018, 02:41:22 PM
SQEEEEEEEEEE is right girl, make it loud and long, you have earned it! Congratulations and let us know about next steps now that "The Letters" are done.

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on November 26, 2018, 02:42:38 PM
Congratulations Kathy! SQUEEEE! AND A WOO-HOO!It's about time. Let us know when the next process begins.

Hugs,
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on November 26, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
SQUEEEE! and YESSS! and WOOHOO!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on November 26, 2018, 03:15:26 PM
Thanks, @Alaskan Danielle, @Anne Blake, @Donica, @Steph2.0.

It will be a few months yet before I get a date.  First, it will take a couple of months to get insurance funding, which has to be pre-approved before I can do anything else.  Then, my file gets sent to Dr. Brassard's office, where it will take about three months to do the preliminaries.  Only then will I get a date, which could be up to a year in the future at that point.

The wheels turn slowly, but the chocks are out and they are starting to roll.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Karen on November 26, 2018, 07:05:57 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 26, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
SQUEEEEEEE!!

My letter exists and is being faxed to my doctor as I type, with a hard-copy followup to me by snail mail.  It only took about 12 months to get the appointment and 8 weeks since then to get the letter.  ::)  Oh, well, at least I'll have it now and the rest of the process can begin.

Congrats Kathy.   This is such good news.  Have been following closely and hoping for you!

Karen
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on November 26, 2018, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on November 26, 2018, 02:34:08 PM
SQUEEEEEEE!!

My letter exists and is being faxed to my doctor as I type, with a hard-copy followup to me by snail mail.  It only took about 12 months to get the appointment and 8 weeks since then to get the letter.  ::)  Oh, well, at least I'll have it now and the rest of the process can begin.
Fantastic news...congrats...one step closer [emoji3]


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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on November 26, 2018, 10:28:41 PM
Great news Kathy!  I hope the rest of the process goes quickly for you.

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Rayna on November 27, 2018, 11:35:18 AM
Yay Kathy! Just knowing the wheels have broken off the rust and are rolling should feel better from here on out. We're with you all the way, er at least until the double doors where they wheel you in.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 04, 2018, 02:02:14 PM
Progress!!  I still haven't received my copy of the letter (snail mail), but my doctor got her copy by fax, and it has already been sent, along with all the other required documentation to the insurance office for approval.

Once that comes through (probably a couple of months, being over the holidays), then I apply to Dr. Brassard's clinic, wait a few months for them to respond, then I'll get a date.

So pardon me while I SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
:icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance:

...And in other good news, my electrologist told me that in the new year, I should start booking half-hour appointments, 'cause she is running out of hair to zap!  And she wants to do my eyebrows soon.  :D :icon_dance:
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Rayna on December 04, 2018, 06:39:17 PM
You need to post in the Happy thread. Congratulations! The wheels are picking up speed.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on December 04, 2018, 08:43:20 PM
Great news Kathy, on both counts.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on December 04, 2018, 11:13:42 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
I will say one of my patented phrases....  WOW-WHEE
........  this is very wonderful news !!!
The FAX worked out much better than the snail male post office for sure.

As I have mentioned to others that are firming up their own surgery plans, once you get a firm surgery date, we would just love to countdown the days with you.

Of course, please keep your updates coming relating to this and your general life endeavors.   We want to rejoice with you in the good news and we want to support you when the news is not so good....   
... we are your biggest fans and we are all rooting for you.

Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle


Quote from: KathyLauren on December 04, 2018, 02:02:14 PM
Progress!!  I still haven't received my copy of the letter (snail mail), but my doctor got her copy by fax, and it has already been sent, along with all the other required documentation to the insurance office for approval.

Once that comes through (probably a couple of months, being over the holidays), then I apply to Dr. Brassard's clinic, wait a few months for them to respond, then I'll get a date.

So pardon me while I SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
:icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance:

...And in other good news, my electrologist told me that in the new year, I should start booking half-hour appointments, 'cause she is running out of hair to zap!  And she wants to do my eyebrows soon.  :D :icon_dance:
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on December 04, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 04, 2018, 02:02:14 PM
Progress!!  I still haven't received my copy of the letter (snail mail), but my doctor got her copy by fax, and it has already been sent, along with all the other required documentation to the insurance office for approval.

Once that comes through (probably a couple of months, being over the holidays), then I apply to Dr. Brassard's clinic, wait a few months for them to respond, then I'll get a date.

So pardon me while I SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
:icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance:

...And in other good news, my electrologist told me that in the new year, I should start booking half-hour appointments, 'cause she is running out of hair to zap!  And she wants to do my eyebrows soon.  :D :icon_dance:

WOW-WHEE.....SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE is right.
Have you discussed down below to your electrocutioner?

Hugs and smiles, Jess
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 05, 2018, 06:23:05 AM
Thank you, @Jessica, @Alaskan Danielle, @JudiBlueEyes and @RandyL!

Quote from: Jessica on December 04, 2018, 11:20:50 PM
Have you discussed down below to your electrocutioner?

No, I haven't.  Dr. Brassard doesn't require clearing, and I won't have an interior in which to worry about stray hairs that escape the follicle scrape.  (Whew, dodged a bullet there!)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on December 05, 2018, 06:52:13 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 04, 2018, 02:02:14 PM
Progress!!  I still haven't received my copy of the letter (snail mail), but my doctor got her copy by fax, and it has already been sent, along with all the other required documentation to the insurance office for approval.

Once that comes through (probably a couple of months, being over the holidays), then I apply to Dr. Brassard's clinic, wait a few months for them to respond, then I'll get a date.

So pardon me while I SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
:icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance: :icon_dance:

...And in other good news, my electrologist told me that in the new year, I should start booking half-hour appointments, 'cause she is running out of hair to zap!  And she wants to do my eyebrows soon.  :D :icon_dance:
Fantastic Kathy moving in the right direction...I can understand your happiness Great stuff
Take care
Liz


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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jayne01 on December 06, 2018, 06:00:50 AM
Congratulations Kathy. Slow progress is still progress. Keep those squeaky wheels squeaking, things seem to get done the more noise you make.

Hugs?
Jayne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 07, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
Yay, my copy of the letter finally arrived by snail-mail!  I now have documented proof that I'm not completely nuts. :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 07, 2018, 12:12:38 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 07, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
Yay, my copy of the letter finally arrived by snail-mail!  I now have documented proof that I'm not completely nuts. :D

No more than the rest of us, hon! Congratulations!


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on December 07, 2018, 01:09:05 PM
WHOO-HOOO Kathy! Congratulations. Definitely a SQUEEEEE!!! girl. Wow! IT'S ABOUT TIME they got things moving for you.

Hugs girl!
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on December 07, 2018, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 07, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
Yay, my copy of the letter finally arrived by snail-mail!  I now have documented proof that I'm not completely nuts.    :D
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy,
As @Steph2.0 stated ... you are no more nuts than the rest of us!!!  ;)

Terrific news about FINALLY getting your hard-copy letter.

Wow, like I say regarding HRT ... "Patience is Required"
Was it the postal system or the doctors office that was responsible for the delay?

Soon we can start a countdown for you
...SQUEE for sure!!

Thank you for sharing your good news.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Rayna on December 07, 2018, 02:15:58 PM


Quote from: KathyLauren on December 07, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
I'm not completely nuts. :D
Soon hon, soon ;)
Congrats

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on December 09, 2018, 08:44:02 PM
Kathy, I love your "Games Afoot" pic!  What fun!!


Hugs and smiles from a California girl





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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 10, 2018, 06:55:11 AM
Quote from: Jessica on December 09, 2018, 08:44:02 PM
Kathy, I love your "Games Afoot" pic!  What fun!!

Thanks.  I guess that was a hint to post the picture.  This is from Centre Stage Theatre, a local community theatre, where I do lights and sound and my wife is on stage.


The first is the cast and crew photo.  I am in the back row, right.  My wife is in front of me.  The second is from the dress rehearsal.  Martha (character played by my wife, in olive dress) has just delivered a zinger to Daria (black and gold dress).  Photos by Charlotte McBride.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/46207812782_c1817b965d_b.jpg)  (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4906/31319406707_6183db8f48_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on December 10, 2018, 06:58:30 AM
Yay happy you got your second congratulations


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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on December 10, 2018, 12:16:02 PM
Lovely pictures Kathy. That looks like a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 20, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
There is one second-hand clothing store in town that has great clothes at great prices.  For more than a week, they have had a bright green coat on display outside.  My wife commented on it every time we went by.  So, last week, I suggested, as we drove home from our errands, that we should investigate it.  You never know, it might be her size.

It wasn't, but it was my size!!!  Damn, it looked good!

So, today, it was the right temperature to wear it.  Here are a couple of pictures of me on the way to a local restaurant.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4916/44581631750_a7e76cc835_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4818/32526505568_ae86f0a565_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on December 20, 2018, 03:57:57 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
You are correct, that bright green coat looks lovely, and you look lovely wearing it.   Hopefully your wife is not upset that it was your size and not hers!!! 

I absolutely love your "Game's Afoot" cast picture, you and your wife look quite nice in your costumes...

Thank you for treating your followers to these great photos.
Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on December 20, 2018, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 20, 2018, 03:49:32 PM
There is one second-hand clothing store in town that has great clothes at great prices.  For more than a week, they have had a bright green coat on display outside.  My wife commented on it every time we went by.  So, last week, I suggested, as we drove home from our errands, that we should investigate it.  You never know, it might be her size.

It wasn't, but it was my size!!!  Damn, it looked good!

So, today, it was the right temperature to wear it.  Here are a couple of pictures of me on the way to a local restaurant.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4916/44581631750_a7e76cc835_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4818/32526505568_ae86f0a565_b.jpg)


Kathy,

Thumbs up!  You look terrific in that coat!

Thank you for sharing your pictures, of the performance cast that includes you and your wife, the astrophotography, and of you in this nice new coat!

Chrissy
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: davina61 on December 20, 2018, 04:24:59 PM
Kathy dear ,result that looks smashing. Myself and BFF say things happen for a reason or fall into place, you were meant to have that coat
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 20, 2018, 05:29:28 PM
Wow, that's beautiful! And so is the coat!

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on December 20, 2018, 07:02:48 PM
Hi Kathy,

You are looking good there girl! And both Deb and I remember that store, what a find.

Happy holidays to both of you,
Tia Anne & Debi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 20, 2018, 07:15:32 PM
Quote from: Anne Blake on December 20, 2018, 07:02:48 PM
Hi Kathy,

You are looking good there girl! And both Deb and I remember that store, what a find.

Happy holidays to both of you,
Tia Anne & Debi
Although the photo was taken on the doorstep of the restaurant next door to Hazel's, that is not the store I got the green coat at.  A coat like that at Hazel's would have cost three times what I paid for it!.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on December 21, 2018, 04:18:22 PM
I saw a scarf that would go great with your new jacket Kathy. I just have to find it again ::)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 24, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
Merry Christmas, everyone!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4644/39233613292_9fec0711b5_b.jpg)
This star cluster is known as the Christmas Tree Cluster because of its shape.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on December 24, 2018, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 24, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
Merry Christmas, everyone!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4644/39233613292_9fec0711b5_b.jpg)
This star cluster is known as the Christmas Tree Cluster because of its shape.

Merry Christmas, Kathy. You're as bright a star as those you photograph.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on December 24, 2018, 10:04:59 PM
Merry Christmas Kathy.   That is a wondrous photo!

Judi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on December 25, 2018, 05:41:25 AM
Kathy,

Merry Christmas!


Chrissy
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on December 25, 2018, 02:04:34 PM
Merry Christmas to both of you Kathy!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 25, 2018, 05:44:58 PM
My wife and I were invited to Christmas dinner with some theatre friends.  Everyone there was from our recent play: two actors, two techies, and one director.  All are really lovely people, nice to be around, and I would work with any of them again.

Our host was a wonderful cook, and the quantity and quality of food was staggering.  Being vegan, my wife and I didn't sample the meat dish, but there were plenty of vegan dishes for us, as well as traditional English plum pudding and numerous other desserts.

The conversation flowed easily, even for me.  (I tend to shut down when more than four people are present.)  Among other topics, we gossiped about who are the good and bad directors to work for, whom to avoid, etc.

My wife and I don't do Christmas in ant recognizable sense.  But we do like to take advantage of social opportunities, and this was a good one.

I hope everyone else had an equally enjoyable Christmas.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on December 25, 2018, 07:01:23 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on December 25, 2018, 05:44:58 PM
My wife and I were invited to Christmas dinner with some theatre friends.  Everyone there was from our recent play: two actors, two techies, and one director.  All are really lovely people, nice to be around, and I would work with any of them again.

Our host was a wonderful cook, and the quantity and quality of food was staggering.  Being vegan, my wife and I didn't sample the meat dish, but there were plenty of vegan dishes for us, as well as traditional English plum pudding and numerous other desserts.

The conversation flowed easily, even for me.  (I tend to shut down when more than four people are present.)  Among other topics, we gossiped about who are the good and bad directors to work for, whom to avoid, etc.

My wife and I don't do Christmas in ant recognizable sense.  But we do like to take advantage of social opportunities, and this was a good one.

I hope everyone else had an equally enjoyable Christmas.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
I so very much enjoy reading all of your postings and following your life events.
This is definitely the season for all of us to find happiness in our lives.
Unfortunately for some people, Christmas and holiday times are really hard because it brings back unhappy memories.

Those that do NOT have functional and accepting family relationships can find this time of year very difficult... 
This is exactly the time for those that are doing well to do what's needed to be encouraging and supporting to try to bring to them some semblance of happiness and joy.   We need to be a bright light in the darkness of their troubled emotions. 

I wish for you a very MERRY CHRISTMAS and a Prosperous and Happy NEW YEAR

Hugs and as always, Well Wishes
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on December 31, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
Well, it is the end of another year, and tomorrow we start a new one.  Time for the dreaded year end report!  >:-) 

TL;DR: Yay me, and happy New Year!

2018 has been a good year for me.  It was my first full year of full-time RLE (2017 was just 8 1/2 months of RLE), and I have enjoyed every minute of being me.  The people I interact with regularly are all used to me.  No one is negative, and all are either supporting or at least accepting.  Strangers see me as a woman.  Perhaps they read me as trans, mostly I think they don't (I know for sure some don't read me), but it doesn't matter: they treat me right.  That is all one could ask.

My wife continues to be my biggest supporter and fan.  I am constantly amazed at how lucky I am to be married to her.

It was my second year of HRT.  My bust measurement has not changed a bit since pre-HRT days, still 39.5", but I have lost muscle and fat and gained breast tissue in equal measure, and I can now fill an A-cup bra.  It's a bit underwhelming for two years' growth, but I'm not complaining.  They are mine, all mine!  They are still growing, too, so I may yet grow to a B-cup.  If I did complain, a cis woman friend of ours would whack me over the head, because mine are much bigger than hers.  ;D

The surplus bits down below are a mere shadow of their former selves.  Tucking is a non-issue except in the tightest, stretchiest pants.  Even then, they tuck easily and the result is convincing.

My face has changed noticeably.  When I look in the mirror, I don't see any of my former face.  I just see Kathy in the mirror, especially if I am wearing a wig or hat to cover my hairline.

I have completed two years of facial electrolysis, around 100 hours.  I see real progress, and I can see being finished in a few months.  Already, parts of my face are baby's-butt smooth even after not shaving for a couple of days.  I started the year needing a dental block to get my upper lip zapped, but now I can do 15 minutes with just topical numbing cream.

Most of that is steady-as-she goes stuff.  But I have had a couple of real transition developments this year.  Most importantly, I have got the two referral letters I need for GRS.  My application is in to my insurance for funding, and I am just awaiting their response, hopefully early in the new year, to send off my request to Dr. Brassard's clinic in Montreal.

The other development, less exciting, but still important, is that the Nova Scotia government announced this year that it is changing the regulations surrounding gender markers so that you no longer need a Nova Scotia birth certificate to officially change your gender.  Without that change, I had to wait two years before I could change my U.K. birth certificate before I was able to change my gender on government ID.  With the new regulations, as soon as they come into force in the new year, I can apply for a gender marker change that doesn't depend on my birth certificate.  I will be able to get all my government ID updated finally.  And then, using that ID, I can use a different process with the Brits to change my birth certificate before the two years are up.

So, looking ahead to next year, I will be updating my documents, getting into the queue for surgery, finishing electrolysis, and maybe even having my surgery.  Which would make 2019 the best year ever for me.

I hope everyone else has as good a year as I am hoping for!

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7910/45821582944_4ec9187037_b.jpg)
The pic is the "Flaming Star Nebula", taken last night.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on December 31, 2018, 02:47:01 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
.... NO WAY is your past year recap Too Long: Didn't Read...  !!!!!
I read every word and I am so very happy for you that your past year of 2018 has been a good one for you... and it being your first full year of being full-time just adds frosting on the cake.  I can identify with you about how good that feels, to finally live freely being your true self.

The changes in your body from your 2nd year of HRT are wonderful for you to experience and wonderful for me to hear.
Enduring the discomfort of your facial electrolysis is now just a memory and any pain you felt melts in comparison to the feeling you have when you look at yourself in the mirror.... and you will soon be finishing up with all of that soon.
Looking forward to your planned GRS in this coming year is something that will be one of the most important steps in your journey... you rightfully are very excited about all of this.
Getting your name and gender changes on your important documents and licenses is adding even more frosting on the cake.

Yes indeed, the past year 2018 has been very good for you and look forward to an even better new year in 2019 with all of your pending plans to help you to reach your final goals.

I love your "Flaming Star Nebula" photo that you attached... 
...the beauty of the picture just adds wonderfully to your Happy New Year greeting.

So Kathy, I have enjoyed this last year with you on the Forums as we meet and exchange comments on your thread, on my threads and the other various threads around the Forums. 
Wishing you a very HAPPY NEW YEAR...
I will be looking eagerly for your future updates.

Hugs and well wishes as always,
Danielle


Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: sarah1972 on January 01, 2019, 08:09:43 AM
Happy New Year Kathy!

What a journey and some exciting progress you made in 2018! So glad to hear you being accepted in your environment. Even better the news about changing laws allowing you to change name and gender marker. This will be a very big day for you!

I hope your surgery plans also materialize in 2019, or at least you get a date for 2020.

We are in the same boat on the effects of HRT. I mostly call them "barely cups". Many have said that post surgery they may have another growth spur so I have some hope. Right now they are back to the growing pains I had in the beginning and they still change and transform. You are right: they are mine and I love them
No matter how small they are.

I wish you a successful and happy 2019!

Hugs,

Sarah
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 01, 2019, 12:15:49 PM
Happy New Year Kathy! It has been wonderful pleasure following your thread through 2018. I am looking forward to following your journey through 2019. Governments finally changing policies, health insurance stepping up services for the trans community, planned surgeries etc..... 2019 promises to be an exciting and affirming year for us indeed.

I hope you receive everything you need to be happy. Stay diligent and positive. Be the squeaky wheel when things seen to stall. Thank you for sharing your journey with us.

Oh yes! If I ever get the chance to come an visit with you and your wife, I will bring the crackers and cheese and a good bottle of wine for an evening gazing at the heavens.

Hugs,
Donica.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 01, 2019, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: Donica on January 01, 2019, 12:15:49 PM
Oh yes! If I ever get the chance to come an visit with you and your wife, I will bring the crackers and cheese and a good bottle of wine for an evening gazing at the heavens.

Thanks, Donica.  You would be most welcome here (as would any Susan's friends), and observatory tours are part of the package.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 01, 2019, 03:41:03 PM
Quote from: Donica on January 01, 2019, 12:15:49 PM
Oh yes! If I ever get the chance to come an visit with you and your wife, I will bring the crackers and cheese and a good bottle of wine for an evening gazing at the heavens.

(Pssst! Donica! Not cheese and crackers with the wine. Chocolate!)

Oh, hi Kathy! Happy New Year! And rest assured that when I visit I will bring the correct ingredients for a Night at the Observatory. (I think that was a Marx Brothers movie.)

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 01, 2019, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 01, 2019, 03:41:03 PM
(Pssst! Donica! Not cheese and crackers with the wine. Chocolate!)

Oh, hi Kathy! Happy New Year! And rest assured that when I visit I will bring the correct ingredients for a Night at the Observatory. (I think that was a Marx Brothers movie.)

Stephanie
Oh! Thanks for the heads up Steph!

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 01, 2019, 05:49:49 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 01, 2019, 03:41:03 PM
(Pssst! Donica! Not cheese and crackers with the wine. Chocolate!)

Oh, hi Kathy! Happy New Year! And rest assured that when I visit I will bring the correct ingredients for a Night at the Observatory. (I think that was a Marx Brothers movie.)

Stephanie

Haha!  That's my girl!!   ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 01, 2019, 05:51:17 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 01, 2019, 03:41:03 PM
(Pssst! Donica! Not cheese and crackers with the wine. Chocolate!)

Oh, hi Kathy! Happy New Year! And rest assured that when I visit I will bring the correct ingredients for a Night at the Observatory. (I think that was a Marx Brothers movie.)

Stephanie
I hope it's heated?

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 01, 2019, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: Donica on January 01, 2019, 05:51:17 PM
I hope it's heated?

The observatory?  (Or did you mean the chocolate? :D )  No, unfortunately, best results require that it be unheated.  In fact, I am working on completing the automation of it so I don't have to sit out there in the cold when I am taking pictures.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 02, 2019, 03:03:15 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 01, 2019, 05:55:38 PM
The observatory?  (Or did you mean the chocolate? :D )  No, unfortunately, best results require that it be unheated.  In fact, I am working on completing the automation of it so I don't have to sit out there in the cold when I am taking pictures.

Oh yes Kathy! In the winter I used to plug into my laptop and control everything from the warmth on my kitchen. Yes, everything needs to be at the ambient air temperature for best results. Especially the CCD. Two of my bigger scopes had built-in cooling fans.

Oh! And yes, lets warm the chocolate too ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on January 02, 2019, 04:00:39 PM
@KathyLauren    cc: @Donica
Dear Kathy:
It is so nice to find other Astronomy buffs here on the Forums.   I have always been interested in Astronomy and as a young teen I got my first good quality telescope and I was hooked. 
Back then I wish that iPhones and home computers were available... and I wish I had the iPhone App that I now have called  "Sky Guide"  ... it would have been so very helpful back then to be able to more quickly locate planets, stars, constellations, galaxies, etc.

(https://i.imgur.com/H7034tp.jpg)
One of my favorite books is Titled "Lonely Hearts of the Cosmos" written by Dennis Overbye.   I have read the book at least 3+ times and I will certainly read it again... once you start to read it you will find that it will be difficult to put it down... it is a permanent fixture on my bookshelf.   
It is a wonderfully written exposé of the early works of George Ellery Hale, Edwin Hubble, Alan Sandage and other pillars of early to mid-20th Century astronomy and the painstaking pre-computer methods and telescope installations that propelled their work which finally was culminated by using the new (at the time) 200 inch Hale Telescope ...
 
I have also had the wonderful opportunity to visit several large telescope installations including the
big Hale 200" telescope(Palomar Mountan,California)
Hooker 100"(at Mt. Wilson, California)
Keck Observatory & Mauna Kea Observatories(on the big island Hawaii),
the Kitt Peak 2.1-meter(in Arizona)
and a several other smaller University and College telescopes.

Special thanks to you Kathy for telling your story of your interest in Astronomy and posting some of your photos....   and now to find out that you are a famous author/contributor to a magazine!!!

Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 02, 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Donica and Danielle, how nice to find some more astronomy enthusiasts here! 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on January 03, 2019, 10:45:23 AM
Danielle, that looks like a good book to search for at my library.  Thanks for the recommendation.  I enjoy astronomy but am not fully versed in it.  While I live in a wooded area there seems to be enough light pollution to quash any views beyond the strongest stars.

I love your photos Kathy! 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on January 03, 2019, 11:06:35 AM
Quote from: JudiBlueEyes on January 03, 2019, 10:45:23 AM
Danielle, that looks like a good book to search for at my library.  Thanks for the recommendation.  I enjoy astronomy but am not fully versed in it.  While I live in a wooded area there seems to be enough light pollution to quash any views beyond the strongest stars.

I love your photos Kathy!

@JudiBlueEyes  @KathyLauren
Dear Judy and Kathy:
Living where I do there is ZERO light pollution and the skies,  particularly in the winter time with the very long and dark night skies, the sky lights up brilliantly with stars, planets, constellations, etc....  and can be great for sky watching just with the naked eye or a good pair of binoculars.   
Then of course the Aurora Borealis (Northern Lights) puts on a great show, it is at a much higher angle or altitude from the horizon than anywhere down in the lower 48 and in southern Canada.
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on January 03, 2019, 11:15:54 AM
I know!  You're making me jealous.  It's like the mid West when I have traveled across country, the skies are so littered with stars!    8)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2019, 11:18:47 AM
Quote from: JudiBlueEyes on January 03, 2019, 11:15:54 AM
I know!  You're making me jealous.  It's like the mid West when I have traveled across country, the skies are so littered with stars!    8)

I visited the Laredo area of southern Texas a while back and was reminded just how wonderful the Milky Way is. It had been so long since I'd seen it...
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 03, 2019, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 03, 2019, 11:18:47 AM
I visited the Laredo area of southern Texas a while back and was reminded just how wonderful the Milky Way is. It had been so long since I'd seen it...

Sadly, they say 80% of North Americans have never seen the Milky Way.  Never!! :(
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2019, 11:43:32 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 03, 2019, 11:37:22 AM
Sadly, they say 80% of North Americans have never seen the Milky Way.  Never!! :(

That is incredibly sad. Interest is slightly higher down here because of the Canaveral rocket launches, though I've found that long-time residents are kind of blasé about that, too.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on January 03, 2019, 01:52:29 PM
For so many years it was one of my favorite candy bars.......sorry for that, somebody had to go there!

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 03, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
Oh yes Tia! Mine too. I have since changed over to Snickers though.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2019, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: Donica on January 03, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
Oh yes Tia! Mine too. I have since changed over to Snickers though.

Hey, don't snicker at us or Kathy, Tia, and I will come get you (The Three Musketeers).
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 03, 2019, 04:18:06 PM
Oh Dear!!! GOL  ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 03, 2019, 05:05:31 PM
Quote from: Donica on January 03, 2019, 04:18:06 PM
Oh Dear!!! GOL  ;D

I wouldn't worry. We can't hang onto our muskets. We all have Butterfingers.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Karen on January 03, 2019, 07:14:26 PM
Kathy.   Thanks for your year in review, and year ahead.  I always find you so positive and balanced.    What a year, and such positive feelings.   And so much to look forward to.  I love how you feel about your wife.. 

Thanks for always being so open and such an inspiration. 

Karen.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 05, 2019, 02:00:22 PM
Quote from: Steph2.0 on January 03, 2019, 05:05:31 PM
I wouldn't worry. We can't hang onto our muskets. We all have Butterfingers.

Haha. Slippery little devils! Bang, Zoom, to the Mars Steph.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 20, 2019, 07:18:59 AM
Two years ago today, I stuck on my first estradiol patch.  What an interesting two years it has been!  Three months after that day, I came out to the world, and I haven't looked back.  I love being me!

No one has been mean or rude to me.  I still get the odd questioning look, but a couple of people have indicated to me that they didn't read me until I told them.  (In both cases, there was a good reason to tell them; it's not like I go around outing myself to strangers.) 

I woke up this morning almost remembering a dream.  That is unusual for me: usually I forget my dreams in seconds.  The part I remember was that I was sitting on a motorcycle that was parked at a gas station, and I caught sight of myself in the bike's rear-view mirror.  Not only was I a girl in the mirror, but I was darned cute, too!  ;D

I am hoping to hear in the next few weeks from the insurance people about approval for my GRS.  And I am hoping, also in the next few weeks, for the new regulations to be in place so that I can officially change my gender.  I hate having that "M" on my license.  I expect that, once I get the gender on my health card updated, I will get notices that I am long overdue for a mammogram and pap smear! :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on January 20, 2019, 10:30:59 AM
I hope your GRS approval comes in quickly without any difficulties.

I am glad that your first two years since the start of mtf HRT have been good years for you.


Chrissy

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Rayna on January 20, 2019, 12:04:03 PM
Hi Kathy,

I started on Susan's a little before you began HRT. I remember your coming out stories, and I was so impressed both by your courage doing that as a prominent citizen in your small community, and by how accepting they were.

Your story and your successful marriage have been inspiring to me, and I always look forward to reading your posts.

Over the past year I've come out to nearly everyone I know, including via our 2018 in Review letter that my wife and I sent to our extended circle of friends and family, including about 60 cousins and families. The responses have been interesting and supportive (I assume any non-supporters have kept quiet). I should tell that story on Susan's but am busy preparing to travel. Maybe after we return.

Meanwhile I hope you get your GCS scheduled soon. All the best,
Randy

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 20, 2019, 01:10:48 PM
Congratulations on your two years of HRT Kathy! Woohoo! Yes, that girl in that motorcycle mirror is a cutie for sure. It was soooo affirming when I got my new DL with the "F" on it. I cried all night, as I bet you will too. You have certainly had to jump through many hoops to get to where you are now. It's about time they change the regulations and do this for your, as you most certainly deserve it.

I hope your GRS approval comes through soon. We need another SQUEEEE moment to keep the happy tears going around the forums. After many emails and phone calls to all your therapist, you now have your two letters already. It's looking like you will be becoming a beautiful and complete women this year.

Congratulations Kathy!
Big hugs!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 20, 2019, 04:44:29 PM
   Congratulations  on the milestone. You are both ahead on me and behind. My 2 years on hrt was 12-14- 2018. You were an inspiration for me all along and when you came out I was envious of you thinking it would be awhile before I could do the same. The end of June will mark my 2 years full time. We have been pretty much neck to neck in our quest towards GCS and by the sounds if it you will beat me there too as I am still looking at somewhere like 2 more years wait thought I think my letters were in before your. Darn it all anyway. Rest assured ,hon, I will rejoice with you when you do beat me there.

Hugs,
  Laurie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: ChrissyRyan on January 20, 2019, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: Laurie on January 20, 2019, 04:44:29 PM
   Congratulations  on the milestone. You are both ahead on me and behind. My 2 years on hrt was 12-14- 2018. You were an inspiration for me all along and when you came out I was envious of you thinking it would be awhile before I could do the same. The end of June will mark my 2 years full time. We have been pretty much neck to neck in our quest towards GCS and by the sounds if it you will beat me there too as I am still looking at somewhere like 2 more years wait thought I think my letters were in before your. Darn it all anyway. Rest assured ,hon, I will rejoice with you when you do beat me there.

Hugs,
  Laurie



Both of you are very special ladies and I too will be very happy for each of you as you complete further progress milestones.   :)

Hugs,

Chrissy
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on January 20, 2019, 07:52:33 PM
Happy anniversary Kathy! Two years, neat. Are you doing any celebration? For me, it seemed to take forever to get that fist prescription and now it seems so long ago, so many things have changed that I can't really remember life before e. I expect that it has been similar for the two of you. I just love how you two have made your lives so full and complete, you have provided such a positive model for the rest of us.

Thank you sister,
Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 20, 2019, 08:02:14 PM
Thanks for the good thoughts, everyone!

Quote from: Laurie on January 20, 2019, 04:44:29 PMWe have been pretty much neck to neck in our quest towards GCS and by the sounds if it you will beat me there too as I am still looking at somewhere like 2 more years wait thought I think my letters were in before your. Darn it all anyway.

Two more years?  Yikes, that sucks!  Why so long?  I hope you can get there sooner than that.

I'll be lucky to get in before the end of this year.  Early next year would not surprise me.  Demand has increased in recent years.  There is supposedly a clinic starting up in Toronto, but they are not accredited with the provincial insurers yet.  And British Columbia has said they want to set up a clinic there, but that is in the future.  There is still only one surgeon serving all of Canada.  While wealthy folks can pay to go somewhere else, if you want to have insurance cover it, Brassard is still the only game in town. 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 20, 2019, 11:07:55 PM
Dr Dugi is the only GCS doc here in Oregon. My consult with him isn't until July 30,2019 and the wait from that is running 17 months now. It could even be longer. I am intending to move from this apartment before my lease runs out around October. I have no idea where I may be. Such a move could affect my insurance company and/or cost me my place in line. Then of course I could change my mind.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 21, 2019, 10:31:12 AM
I'm curious Laurie! If I may ask, Did you get an approval for hair removal in the Netherlands yet?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Laurie on January 21, 2019, 03:25:16 PM
Quote from: Donica on January 21, 2019, 10:31:12 AM
I'm curious Laurie! If I may ask, Did you get an approval for hair removal in the Netherlands yet?

I don't want to hijack Kathy's thread, but in answer to your question Donica;  No. Kaiser here in Oregon will not approve electrolysis in the nether regions until after the consult. So I have a bit over 6 months to wait before I can prep down below.  Which means months more delay in being ready for surgery.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 25, 2019, 07:16:58 AM
The community theatre company is rehearsing a new play, and, once again, I am the sound and light girl.  I went to a rehearsal last night, expecting to be in the tech booth playing with the console.  A couple of actors couldn't make it, so the director was desperate to find people to read the lines of the missing parts.  You can see where this is going, right?

I got to read the part for Miss Maple, a farcical clone of Agatha Christie's Miss Marple.  I swore I would never get on stage - I mean what kind of role could I play? - yet there I was, script in hand, having a good time.  Surprisingly, my voice control was better than it is in real life.

One of the directors has already said he wants to get me on stage.  I wonder if a trans actor playing a cis role would raise as much ruckus as a cis actor playing a trans part does?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 25, 2019, 12:12:27 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 25, 2019, 07:16:58 AM
The community theatre company is rehearsing a new play, and, once again, I am the sound and light girl.  I went to a rehearsal last night, expecting to be in the tech booth playing with the console.  A couple of actors couldn't make it, so the director was desperate to find people to read the lines of the missing parts.  You can see where this is going, right?

I got to read the part for Miss Maple, a farcical clone of Agatha Christie's Miss Marple.  I swore I would never get on stage - I mean what kind of role could I play? - yet there I was, script in hand, having a good time.  Surprisingly, my voice control was better than it is in real life.

One of the directors has already said he wants to get me on stage.  I wonder if a trans actor playing a cis role would raise as much ruckus as a cis actor playing a trans part does?

That's so cool, Kathy. I've been thinking about trying community theater myself some day after I'm satisfied with my voice. After all, I acted a part for half a century.

Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on January 25, 2019, 12:16:09 PM
Whohoo! They are going to get you up there on the stage oneway or the other. Have fun with it Kathy. What Stephanie said is so true! We've all acted the part of a cismale. We should all be pretty good at acting.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 25, 2019, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: Donica on January 25, 2019, 12:16:09 PMWhat Stephanie said is so true! We've all acted the part of a cismale. We should all be pretty good at acting.
LOL!  :D  Thanks, Stephanie and Donica!

When the director asked a while back if I'd like to be on stage, my answer was that I'd acted for 60 years, and I was all acted out.  But, yeah, maybe I just need to put those 60 years on my résumé as experience.

There is a bio of each actor in the program for every play.  I wonder how that would look if I claimed all that experience.  TMI, you think?  ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 25, 2019, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 25, 2019, 12:49:43 PM
LOL!  :D  Thanks, Stephanie and Donica!

When the director asked a while back if I'd like to be on stage, my answer was that I'd acted for 60 years, and I was all acted out.  But, yeah, maybe I just need to put those 60 years on my résumé as experience.

There is a bio of each actor in the program for every play.  I wonder how that would look if I claimed all that experience.  TMI, you think?  ;D

Yup, I think!! [emoji16]
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on January 25, 2019, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 25, 2019, 12:49:43 PM
LOL!  :D  Thanks, Stephanie and Donica!

When the director asked a while back if I'd like to be on stage, my answer was that I'd acted for 60 years, and I was all acted out.  But, yeah, maybe I just need to put those 60 years on my résumé as experience.

There is a bio of each actor in the program for every play.  I wonder how that would look if I claimed all that experience.  TMI, you think?  ;D
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
This is terrific news, I recall your wonderful pictures of your previous stage experience...
...with the same director perhaps???

Oh yes, I don't think you need to devulge every detail about yourself...  in my opinion, for this event, I think that revealing your are transgender is definitely TMI and not essential for this endeavor.  

Even though I have come-out to everyone where I live (and elsewhere)  I really don't make statements and proclamations about my trans-woman details, it would be superfluous for most conversations in business and personal endeavors... except for my serious relationships with my suitors of course.

I hope that you are planning to accept... more pictures of you on stage would be wonderful for all of you followers to see.

Hugs and well wishes,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on January 31, 2019, 10:49:16 AM
I removed a post of mine and some replies because it/they violated someone's privacy.  I am sorry.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on January 31, 2019, 10:56:43 AM
Understood. I'll not pass anything on.


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on January 31, 2019, 12:00:35 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on January 31, 2019, 10:49:16 AM
I removed a post of mine and some replies because it/they violated someone's privacy.  I am sorry.

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
No worries.   It is sometimes a good thing to consider our 2nd thoughts after we post something... 
...   I think you did the right thing...

Thanks for posting this follow up explanation comment.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on February 03, 2019, 07:43:20 AM
Oh! Did I miss something? I didn't see the comments in question. Just as well. I hope everything is going well Kathy.

Hugs,
Donica.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 05, 2019, 01:36:16 PM
Today was a milestone of sorts.  My electrocutioner was able to clear my entire face in one hour, for the first time.  Yay!  It is starting to feel like we are into the home stretch.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on February 05, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
That is good news Kathy. With the temperatures you have been having in Nova Scotia, was your face frozen enough to not feel any of the torture?

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 05, 2019, 02:04:01 PM
Quote from: Anne Blake on February 05, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
That is good news Kathy. With the temperatures you have been having in Nova Scotia, was your face frozen enough to not feel any of the torture?

Tia Anne
LOL!  :D  A couple of days ago, it would have been: windchills around -15C to -20C.  We are having a heat wave today: the temperature got above freezing.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on February 05, 2019, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 05, 2019, 01:36:16 PM
Today was a milestone of sorts.  My electrocutioner was able to clear my entire face in one hour, for the first time.  Yay!  It is starting to feel like we are into the home stretch.
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Thank you for posting your report and update regarding your electyrolysis.

Electrolysis hair removal reminds me of stacking cord wood.  When a big pile of unorganized wood is delivered and dumped out of a truck, one can handle each piece and stack it for hours without any noticeable difference in the size of the wood pile, very disconcerting for sure.... then at some point one will notice that progress is being made as the pile is appears to be diminishing and the wood being neatly stacked starts to grow.... 
.... it can seem like a long and initially discouraging process by not seeing immediate dramatic results, but the results will indeed happen.   

Like many things in our transition journey, PATIENCE S REQUIRED !!!

Thanks for your update,
HUGS and well wishes,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on February 05, 2019, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 05, 2019, 01:36:16 PM
Today was a milestone of sorts.  My electrocutioner was able to clear my entire face in one hour, for the first time.  Yay!  It is starting to feel like we are into the home stretch.

Wow! Congratulations!  It wasn't too long after this point that I found myself on 'maintenance', where maybe an hour every 4-6 weeks keeps me clear.  (And it has been 10 months since I last shaved!)

That has to feel good!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 15, 2019, 10:34:06 AM
Yay, exciting news to report: my insurance has approved funding for my surgery!!  With any luck, it could happen before the end of this year.

I have started a thread in the GCS forum to document the process: Kathy's GRS thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,244681.0.html)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on February 15, 2019, 10:41:01 AM
I don't know which one to say YAY! in .. I guess I'll pick this one

YAY!! 

:D

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on February 15, 2019, 10:45:26 AM
@KathyLauen:
Dear Kathy:
This is wonderful, exciting, and terrific news for you and great news for me and your followers to hear from you.
This is certainly an affirming very big step in your journey.
   
I will be eagerly following your threads as you feel free to share with us.

Hugs and more hugs,
Danielle

Quote from: KathyLauren on February 15, 2019, 10:34:06 AM
Yay, exciting news to report: my insurance has approved funding for my surgery!!  With any luck, it could happen before the end of this year.

I have started a thread in the GCS forum to document the process: Kathy's GRS thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,244681.0.html)

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on February 15, 2019, 10:53:12 AM
I will say yay to all of the above. Congratulations Kathy on bth your HNT and GRS. Whoohoo! I know you have been waiting a long time for your surgery. Hoping it happens before the end of the year.

Hugs!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 15, 2019, 07:41:46 PM
@Faith, @Alaskan Danielle, @Donica

Thanks, ladies!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on February 15, 2019, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 15, 2019, 10:34:06 AM
Yay, exciting news to report: my insurance has approved funding for my surgery!!  With any luck, it could happen before the end of this year.

I have started a thread in the GCS forum to document the process: Kathy's GRS thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,244681.0.html)
What a fantastic weight off your shoulders. How exciting knowing you are able to get what you need. I hope for your sake you can get the surgery as soon as possible.

Liz


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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on February 22, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
This is funny...  My wife recently had to renew her driver's license.  When she opened the envelope containing her new card, she discovered that they listed her sex as "M"!  Now we have a matched set!   :D

I bet hers will be easier to correct than mine, though.  >:(
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Megan. on February 22, 2019, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 22, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
This is funny...  My wife recently had to renew her driver's license.  When she opened the envelope containing her new card, she discovered that they listed her sex as "M"!  Now we have a matched set!   :D

I bet hers will be easier to correct than mine, though.  >:(
[emoji23], now that's funny.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on February 22, 2019, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on February 22, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
This is funny...  My wife recently had to renew her driver's license.  When she opened the envelope containing her new card, she discovered that they listed her sex as "M"!  Now we have a matched set!   :D

I bet hers will be easier to correct than mine, though.  >:(

Wow! Somebody wasn't thinking were they! The wonderful Department of Motor Vehicles.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 06, 2019, 08:12:41 PM
Hanging out backstage at the theatre with the cast.  Crew have to wear black.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/47304741421_d58dd5d644_b.jpg)

I do lights and sound for them.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on March 06, 2019, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 06, 2019, 08:12:41 PM
Hanging out backstage at the theatre with the cast.  Crew have to wear black.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/47304741421_d58dd5d644_b.jpg)

I do lights and sound for them.

You may be crew, but you look like just one of the gang.
Your nice smile shows you are living life!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on March 07, 2019, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 06, 2019, 08:12:41 PM
Hanging out backstage at the theatre with the cast.  Crew have to wear black.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7877/47304741421_d58dd5d644_b.jpg)

I do lights and sound for them.

Ah-ha. You didn't forget to blur the images in the mirror ;). They're still planning to get you out front right?

Hugs Kathy.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 07, 2019, 07:07:56 PM
Quote from: Donica on March 07, 2019, 06:14:01 PM
Ah-ha. You didn't forget to blur the images in the mirror ;). They're still planning to get you out front right?
Well, I don't want to get sued. ;) 

There is one director in particular who jokingly suggests he would like to get me on stage.  I am not ruling it out categorically, but it would have to be a role I really felt strongly about doing.  It would be fun to blow people's minds by having a trans actor play a cis role, I suppose.  But I don't really want to do it.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 14, 2019, 11:41:27 AM
We get all wrapped up in the change-full-ness of transition.  It is easy to forget that people get used to us as we are and forget our transition.

Yesterday, I washed my primary wig, so I wore my secondary one to band practise.  At the break, one of the ladies in the band commented on my hair, that it looked lighter.  I know that she was a member before my transition, which was quite public within the band.  So, I assumed that she would remember my transition, and that it was obvious that I wore a wig.  I mentioned that I'd just washed my other hair and it was drying at home.

She was quite surprised, and said she hadn't realized that my hair was a wig.

It is actually kind of nice to be taken for granted like that!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on March 14, 2019, 01:09:41 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Great news regarding your hair story....
I don't have the advantage of changing my hairstyles and color as easily as you described!!! :D
... and you look like a happy camper in the wonderful picture that you posted.... 

I agree that it is indeed very nice to be taken for granted as the women we have become!!!!

Thank you for sharing!!! 
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on March 14, 2019, 01:15:19 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 14, 2019, 11:41:27 AM
We get all wrapped up in the change-full-ness of transition.  It is easy to forget that people get used to us as we are and forget our transition.

Yesterday, I washed my primary wig, so I wore my secondary one to band practise.  At the break, one of the ladies in the band commented on my hair, that it looked lighter.  I know that she was a member before my transition, which was quite public within the band.  So, I assumed that she would remember my transition, and that it was obvious that I wore a wig.  I mentioned that I'd just washed my other hair and it was drying at home.

She was quite surprised, and said she hadn't realized that my hair was a wig.

It is actually kind of nice to be taken for granted like that!

Wow, that's really nice! You're about 6 months to a year ahead of me, and I haven't yet gotten to the point where people have begun to forget about "him." I so look forward to the day that I can leave that person behind, and everyone around me only knows my true self. Whether it's possible to do it "in situ" or whether I'll have to go elsewhere to make that happen remains to be seen. Congratulations for accomplishing it right where you are!


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on March 14, 2019, 05:48:06 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 14, 2019, 11:41:27 AM
We get all wrapped up in the change-full-ness of transition.  It is easy to forget that people get used to us as we are and forget our transition.

Yesterday, I washed my primary wig, so I wore my secondary one to band practise.  At the break, one of the ladies in the band commented on my hair, that it looked lighter.  I know that she was a member before my transition, which was quite public within the band.  So, I assumed that she would remember my transition, and that it was obvious that I wore a wig.  I mentioned that I'd just washed my other hair and it was drying at home.

She was quite surprised, and said she hadn't realized that my hair was a wig.

It is actually kind of nice to be taken for granted like that!

I'm afraid I have forgotten that you wear a wig too. You look so good in it, when I first met you I thought you were cis.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 14, 2019, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: Donica on March 14, 2019, 05:48:06 PM
I'm afraid I have forgotten that you wear a wig too. You look so good in it, when I first met you I thought you were cis.
Wait a second... We've met?  Where was I? ;)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on March 15, 2019, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 14, 2019, 07:48:55 PM
Wait a second... We've met?  Where was I? ;)


Wait! What? I can't believe you don't remember! Just kidding. Yes dear, when I first met you at Susan's after you took you helmet off ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Anne Blake on March 18, 2019, 09:16:54 PM
Hi Kathy,

I must admit that I never thought of you wearing wig, and we have met face to face!

Tia Anne
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 21, 2019, 01:38:12 PM
I had an interesting experience at the electrocutioner today.  I enjoyed it!!  :o  ;D

A few weeks ago, she had suggested getting my eyebrows done.  Getting them zapped and done forever sounded much better than having them waxed every month or two, so today, I rubbed Emla into them before my appointment and covered them up.

The pain level was mild.  The fun part was the feeling of someone working on my face for the purpose of beautifying me.  Ooh, how nice!  I can see now why women go to spas.

After working on my brows for a while, she went on to other areas of my face.  Pretty routine stuff.  I got very mellow listening to music on the headphones and didn't pay much attention at all to the zaps, even the painful ones.  But all the time, I had a warm fuzzy feeling from being pampered earlier.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on March 21, 2019, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 21, 2019, 01:38:12 PM
I had an interesting experience at the electrocutioner today.  I enjoyed it!!  :o  ;D

A few weeks ago, she had suggested getting my eyebrows done.  Getting them zapped and done forever sounded much better than having them waxed every month or two, so today, I rubbed Emla into them before my appointment and covered them up.

The pain level was mild.  The fun part was the feeling of someone working on my face for the purpose of beautifying me.  Ooh, how nice!  I can see now why women go to spas.

After working on my brows for a while, she went on to other areas of my face.  Pretty routine stuff.  I got very mellow listening to music on the headphones and didn't pay much attention at all to the zaps, even the painful ones.  But all the time, I had a warm fuzzy feeling from being pampered earlier.


@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Exactly the same for me... when I get my hair styled, get a mani/pedi, get hair removal touched up, etc, etc

I usually get drowsy and could easily fall asleep I am so relaxed from being pampered!!!
A wonderful feeling for sure.

Thanks for sharing.
Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on March 21, 2019, 08:09:09 PM
Same here!  I had my hair cut and colored today, and between the conversation I could just dose off.  Ahhhh! 

My electrologist had started my brows but I preferred she spend the time on my face and neck.  I continue to "self prune" but will get back to them soon!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on March 25, 2019, 04:54:58 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 21, 2019, 01:38:12 PM
I had an interesting experience at the electrocutioner today.  I enjoyed it!!  :o  ;D

A few weeks ago, she had suggested getting my eyebrows done.  Getting them zapped and done forever sounded much better than having them waxed every month or two, so today, I rubbed Emla into them before my appointment and covered them up.

The pain level was mild.  The fun part was the feeling of someone working on my face for the purpose of beautifying me.  Ooh, how nice!  I can see now why women go to spas.

After working on my brows for a while, she went on to other areas of my face.  Pretty routine stuff.  I got very mellow listening to music on the headphones and didn't pay much attention at all to the zaps, even the painful ones.  But all the time, I had a warm fuzzy feeling from being pampered earlier.

That's a good idea Kathy. I just got my eyebrows waxed and tinted two weeks ago. I got a prescription for BLT from my PCP. My insurance doesn't cover it so it cost me over $120 for 60 grams. I'll save it for the more #%$SENSITIVE*&^% areas and stick with EMLA for the other areas.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 31, 2019, 06:45:22 AM
Me being visible for TDoV.  I wore my triangle trans pendant to the theatre cast & crew party, where it didn't draw any comments but was noticed.  I'll be wearing a pin with a rainbow in trans flag colours to today's set build for the next play.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7831/47453190212_6c52a81c40_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on March 31, 2019, 08:38:03 AM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your beautiful picture.... 
How did the cast and crew party go for you ???

Again, thank you for your post.
Hugs and best wishes,
Danielle


Quote from: KathyLauren on March 31, 2019, 06:45:22 AM
Me being visible for TDoV.  I wore my triangle trans pendant to the theatre cast & crew party, where it didn't draw any comments but was noticed.  I'll be wearing a pin with a rainbow in trans flag colours to today's set build for the next play.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7831/47453190212_6c52a81c40_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on March 31, 2019, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on March 31, 2019, 06:45:22 AM
Me being visible for TDoV.  I wore my triangle trans pendant to the theatre cast & crew party, where it didn't draw any comments but was noticed.  I'll be wearing a pin with a rainbow in trans flag colours to today's set build for the next play.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7831/47453190212_6c52a81c40_b.jpg)

Very nice! And I love those socks!

I'm wearing my "Pleiades Necklace," which has the trans flag colors, though there's really nothing special about that. I wear it nearly every day.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190331/8fc2f0be71b137705120aacc6fc04484.jpg)

The picture is taken in my camper because I'm working at the Sun-N-Fun airshow for the next week. Practically everyone here knows my story, so you can't get much more visible than that!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on March 31, 2019, 05:47:59 PM
Looking good, Stephanie!  You've also got trans flag colours in your hair and earrings. :)

Here's me at work on the set build at the theatre.  That's me in the red top.  Not a particularly flattering photo.  In fact, it's more of a flattening photo!  Still, even though I am in the shadows, I AM visible.  My trans flag pin is just above where my left boob would be if you could see it! :P

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7918/47510409801_0abcc3c0bd_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 03, 2019, 02:03:52 PM
Looking cis to me Kathy. Yes I can see the pin.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 08, 2019, 10:47:21 AM
Ow, ow, ow!  I just got back from the dental surgeon. 

I had one fang that stuck out from the rest of my teeth in a most unflattering way.  As a guy, I didn't care that much about my appearance, but now I was finding that I was pretty self-conscious about it.  My dentist referred me to a dental surgeon for an extraction.

Today's appointment was supposed to be a consultation.  But he took a look at it and said, "Oh, that's an easy one.  Let's do it now!"  He was not as good as my own dentist with the freezing shots.  Hers are almost painless; his hurt like a SOB.  But it only took a couple of minutes.  A couple of stitches, and it's done.

He warned me that it's going to hurt in about two days.

But I'll have a nicer smile now. :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 10, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
Rather than hijack another thread, I thought I'd respond to @Steph2.0's comment here:
Quote from: Steph2.0 on April 10, 2019, 10:04:17 AM
Exactly, Randi! I did some pretty cool things in the past that the new friends I've been making (who only know the new me) would be interested in hearing about. Most of them are safe because there aren't too many records online that they can check that would "blow my cover," so to speak. But there are things that are off limits that have me editing my conversations in real-time. For instance, I almost told someone the other day that as an Eagle Scout, I was taught to always be prepared. Whoa, girl, you can't say that! There were no girl Eagle Scouts in the 70s!

Another interesting thing is that lately as I think about the things I've done in the past, my brain is committing some revisionist history. I remember myself doing them - as my new self. My brain is slowly editing "him" out of my memories. I'm perfectly okay with that!

I participate in a Facebook group related to my flying experiences 40-ish years ago.  For the most part, members there accept me as Kathy, no questions asked.  But my dates are from a time when women were not allowed to fly military aircraft, so there is always the chance of someone catching the anachronism and questioning it.

I deal with it by ignoring it unless it becomes an issue.  But sometimes people from my era show up.  I had one guy mistake me for the actual first female pilot and ask on the group page if I was she.  I responded to him by PM, to keep the discussion off the page, but I told him the full story.  He was fine with it.

Another guy that I worked and flew with showed up one day.  I thought I'd try a bit of subtlety.  On the group page, I posted: "Hi, D, nice to see you.  We were contemporaries in A flight, though you won't recognize me with this name."  I then went on to relate an unforgettable incident that would certainly identify in his mind who I had been.  His reply had to be the smoothest acknowledgement ever: "Hi, Kathy.  Yes, that was a memorable weekend," confirming that he remembered the incident and therefore my old identity, but accepting my new identity. :D

I have also had the actual first female pilot "like" a story of mine that predated her training, pretty much acknowledging my background.

It is a fine balance between enjoying the reminiscences of an interesting past, avoiding public discussion of my transition, and outing myself when necessary.  So far, it is working.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on April 10, 2019, 12:44:46 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 10, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
Rather than hijack another thread, I thought I'd respond to @Steph2.0's comment here:
I participate in a Facebook group related to my flying experiences 40-ish years ago.  For the most part, members there accept me as Kathy, no questions asked.  But my dates are from a time when women were not allowed to fly military aircraft, so there is always the chance of someone catching the anachronism and questioning it.

I deal with it by ignoring it unless it becomes an issue.  But sometimes people from my era show up.  I had one guy mistake me for the actual first female pilot and ask on the group page if I was she.  I responded to him by PM, to keep the discussion off the page, but I told him the full story.  He was fine with it.

Another guy that I worked and flew with showed up one day.  I thought I'd try a bit of subtlety.  On the group page, I posted: "Hi, D, nice to see you.  We were contemporaries in A flight, though you won't recognize me with this name."  I then went on to relate an unforgettable incident that would certainly identify in his mind who I had been.  His reply had to be the smoothest acknowledgement ever: "Hi, Kathy.  Yes, that was a memorable weekend," confirming that he remembered the incident and therefore my old identity, but accepting my new identity. :D

I have also had the actual first female pilot "like" a story of mine that predated her training, pretty much acknowledging my background.

It is a fine balance between enjoying the reminiscences of an interesting past, avoiding public discussion of my transition, and outing myself when necessary.  So far, it is working.

Aida de Acosta Root Breckinridge (July 28, 1884 – May 26, 1962) evidently channeled herself onto the internet.  And Kathy, you don't look your age girl!

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 10, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 10, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
It is a fine balance between enjoying the reminiscences of an interesting past, avoiding public discussion of my transition, and outing myself when necessary.  So far, it is working.

What a cool story about your cohort who acknowledged the old and new you. He must have been Canadian. [emoji16]

I have a friend who was in the submarine service when women weren't on subs. She actually showed up at the first group support meeting I'd ever gone to. She'd transitioned long ago, and when she came in I wondered why a ciswoman was at a trans support meeting. She had the same concerns about how to deal with the past.

As I learned more about her I found that she is actually very open about it on Facebook, and is now quite the trans activist in Washington DC. I also found out that she's the mother/father (she uses the terms interchangeably) of the therapist who was running the meeting. I think she attended just to grease the wheels for the rest of us and get the meeting going for her daughter. I know I was terrified way back then, and she was so nice and complimentary to me, telling me repeatedly that I looked great and would do really well with transition. I needed that so badly then.

Later I made a connection and we ended up going out to dinner together. She was so helpful to a newly transitioning girl, and we still keep in touch.



Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 10, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 10, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
I have also had the actual first female pilot "like" a story of mine

Quote from: Jessica on April 10, 2019, 12:44:46 PM
Aida de Acosta Root Breckinridge (July 28, 1884 – May 26, 1962) evidently channeled herself onto the internet.

LOL  :D  I didn't mean the first ever.  But she was the first female military pilot in Canada, and went on to become one of the first two female F-18 pilots in the world.

QuoteAnd Kathy, you don't look your age girl!

Aw, so sweet of you to say so!  :)

Quote from: Steph2.0 on April 10, 2019, 12:55:40 PM
What a cool story about your cohort who acknowledged the old and new you. He must have been Canadian. [emoji16]

Hee-hee, how did you know?

Nice story about the former submariner.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 11, 2019, 05:13:33 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 10, 2019, 12:16:24 PM
Rather than hijack another thread, I thought I'd respond to @Steph2.0's comment here:
I participate in a Facebook group related to my flying experiences 40-ish years ago.  For the most part, members there accept me as Kathy, no questions asked.  But my dates are from a time when women were not allowed to fly military aircraft, so there is always the chance of someone catching the anachronism and questioning it.

I deal with it by ignoring it unless it becomes an issue.  But sometimes people from my era show up.  I had one guy mistake me for the actual first female pilot and ask on the group page if I was she.  I responded to him by PM, to keep the discussion off the page, but I told him the full story.  He was fine with it.

Another guy that I worked and flew with showed up one day.  I thought I'd try a bit of subtlety.  On the group page, I posted: "Hi, D, nice to see you.  We were contemporaries in A flight, though you won't recognize me with this name."  I then went on to relate an unforgettable incident that would certainly identify in his mind who I had been.  His reply had to be the smoothest acknowledgement ever: "Hi, Kathy.  Yes, that was a memorable weekend," confirming that he remembered the incident and therefore my old identity, but accepting my new identity. :D

I have also had the actual first female pilot "like" a story of mine that predated her training, pretty much acknowledging my background.

It is a fine balance between enjoying the reminiscences of an interesting past, avoiding public discussion of my transition, and outing myself when necessary.  So far, it is working.

I agree! Especially if we decide to go stealth, we really can't talk much about our previous lives. I find myself just keeping my big mouth shut when topics I've experienced in the passed are in discussion.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 12, 2019, 09:10:23 AM
I was pushing a cart around the supermarket yesterday.  At the end of one aisle, I was just starting to turn the corner when another woman came the opposite direction with her cart.  We both quickly slammed on the brakes and avoided a collision.  A male shopper watching this commented, "Two women drivers!"  At least he got the gender right! :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 12, 2019, 09:15:52 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 12, 2019, 09:10:23 AM
I was pushing a cart around the supermarket yesterday.  At the end of one aisle, I was just starting to turn the corner when another woman came the opposite direction with her cart.  We both quickly slammed on the brakes and avoided a collision.  A male shopper watching this commented, "Two women drivers!"  At least he got the gender right! :D

Yay!

I took some friends out to dinner during Sun-N-Fun. I usually drive my RocketSkate, a 2003 Mini Cooper, but this time I was driving the Colossus of Roads, my F-250 diesel truck. As I herded it into a parking spot that would have been effortless with the RS, I commented that at least now I had a good excuse for not getting it between the lines, since no one expects too much from a woman driver. I received a tongue-lashing from my friend L, the only other woman in the truck. All in good nature of course. [emoji16]
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 13, 2019, 03:18:44 PM
caller: This is <whoever> from <heating oil company>.  Is Kathleen there?
me: This is Kathleen.
caller: So you are speaking on behalf of Kathleen?
me: No, I am Kathleen.
caller: Oh, my, I've never come across that before!
me:  ::)  Now is not a good time to talk.  Goodbye.  [My wife was calling me for dinner.]

I guess my voice doesn't pass.  >:(
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on April 13, 2019, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 13, 2019, 03:18:44 PM
caller: This is <whoever> from <heating oil company>.  Is Kathleen there?
me: This is Kathleen.
caller: So you are speaking on behalf of Kathleen?
me: No, I am Kathleen.
caller: Oh, my, I've never come across that before!
me:  ::)  Now is not a good time to talk.  Goodbye.  [My wife was calling me for dinner.]

I guess my voice doesn't pass.  >:(


Thanks sucks  :(

My voice changes when I'm on the phone, all on it's own. Whether it passes or not, I don't know. I know that Lori doesn't recognize it. When she calls my phone and I don't answer, she refused to leave a message because "she doesn't know that person" .. um, yes you do! :-p
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 16, 2019, 05:56:14 PM
I hear you Kathy. I'm working on my phone voice. My voice therapist told me to practice by making prank calls until I start getting ma'amed on the phone. I don't know if my voice passes in person but for sure it doesn't pass on the phone. "Yes this is Donica!" (Hi sir! I'm soandso from whichamacallit's and I'm calling) "Wait, how can you call a lady named Donica sir?" (Oh I apologize ma'am. I was) Click! It was an unwanted call anyway.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 20, 2019, 07:21:27 AM
I am officially the luckiest girl in the world.  My wife remembered that today is my 2-year anniversary of going full-time and gave me a card and a present. 

We had both drooled over this necklace at the market a few months back, so she conspired with the vendor to hold it for her.  The next time we were at the market, she sneakily sent me on an errand back to the car so she could make the transaction.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40683739933_7b5803aedc_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: TonyaW on April 20, 2019, 07:38:00 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 20, 2019, 07:21:27 AM
I am officially the luckiest girl in the world.  My wife remembered that today is my 2-year anniversary of going full-time and gave me a card and a present. 

We had both drooled over this necklace at the market a few months back, so she conspired with the vendor to hold it for her.  The next time we were at the market, she sneakily sent me on an errand back to the car so she could make the transaction.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40683739933_7b5803aedc_b.jpg)
How awesome.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on April 20, 2019, 07:45:49 AM
That's very pretty Kathy ! and congrats on 2 years full time, wow !

Cynthia -
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: JudiBlueEyes on April 20, 2019, 12:54:01 PM
Your wife is so special.  Cherish her!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: LizK on April 20, 2019, 05:51:06 PM
Yes you are....I Love it...and your wife deserves a standing ovation.


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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 22, 2019, 01:31:20 PM
Quote from: LizK on April 20, 2019, 05:51:06 PM
your wife deserves a standing ovation.
She does indeed!

A funny thing happened yesterday on an astronomy forum.  I noticed that another member's location said "Nova Scotia".  His name rang a bell vaguely, so I PMed him to introduce myself and try to figure out where I knew him from.  By way of introduction, he told me the name of the community where he lives.  Suddenly, it clicked: I had bought a telescope from him five years ago.

So, I told him I had his old telescope and sent him a picture of it in its new home.  He wrote back:  "Oh, you must be married to Keith."  Oops, time for some 'splaining!   :o

So I told him that actually, I used to be Keith.  All is cool and he sent me some pictures of the telescope in its previous life.

It is not often that I have to come out to someone these days, but exchanges like this make it fun.  Encountering people from my former life is unavoidable, and I refuse to worry about it.  I am not embarrassed about who I am or how I got here, so if the subject comes up, I tell them.  Zero negative reactions so far!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 22, 2019, 02:44:21 PM
Well I'm glad he didn't have any issues with the new you. I have to police my thoughts before engaging my mouth. I do tend to blurt things out now and then. So far my negative reactions score is 2 against the rest of the world.

During one of the FFluid meeting, we discussed the possible reasons why some folks these days have more issues than others. The outcome of the discussion seemed to be that age played a roll, among others, with youth facing more negativity than older folks?

But then the FFluid moderator, an elderly trans women with 10 years over me, said that she thinks, at least for her, it's because she looks like someone that would hurt them hahaha :o Piss Grandma off and pay consequences. I didn't argue with her ;D

Hugs!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 22, 2019, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Donica on April 22, 2019, 02:44:21 PM
Well I'm glad he didn't have any issues with the new you. I have to police my thoughts before engaging my mouth. I do tend to blurt things out now and then. So far my negative reactions score is 2 against the rest of the world.

During one of the FFluid meeting, we discussed the possible reasons why some folks these days have more issues than others. The outcome of the discussion seemed to be that age played a roll, among others, with youth facing more negativity than older folks?

But then the FFluid moderator, an elderly trans women with 10 years over me, said that she thinks, at least for her, it's because she looks like someone that would hurt them hahaha :o Piss Grandma off and pay consequences. I didn't argue with her ;D

Hugs!
I have wondered myself why I am so lucky.  My scope is zero negative reactions against lots of positive or neutral ones.

I think it has something to do with the values of the society one lives in.  The default behaviour here is that, if you don't know what to make of someone, be nice.  (I know, what a concept, eh?)  There is no shortage of rednecks here, but they have all been surprisingly tolerant of me.

I aim to fit in.  I dress like my mother would have.  I do things in the community, and those things didn't change when I came out.  In all respects but one, I am just like them.

And you are probably right: age helps.  No one has to worry that I am out to snare their spouse.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 22, 2019, 04:48:28 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 22, 2019, 04:19:45 PM
I have wondered myself why I am so lucky.  My scope is zero negative reactions against lots of positive or neutral ones.

I think it has something to do with the values of the society one lives in.  The default behaviour here is that, if you don't know what to make of someone, be nice.  (I know, what a concept, eh?)  There is no shortage of rednecks here, but they have all been surprisingly tolerant of me.

I aim to fit in.  I dress like my mother would have.  I do things in the community, and those things didn't change when I came out.  In all respects but one, I am just like them.

And you are probably right: age helps.  No one has to worry that I am out to snare their spouse.

Or worse, out to snare them. Some guys are terrified of going out with a woman and getting his hopes up, only to find they've been hitting on someone they perceive to be a "man." After all, until recently their ideas of who we are came from unflatteringly written roles on TV shows and in movies.

I wish I could find the article so I could give attribution to the author, but it pointed out that trans roles in entertainment were always about a man pretending to be a woman to fool people for his own gain. Even in popular movies Dustin Hoffman played Tootsie to get a job, and Robin Williams played Mrs. Doubtfire to get custody of his kids. In so few cases were we presented as people just trying to get by and live our quiet lives authentically with no intentions of fooling anyone.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 24, 2019, 07:55:23 AM
Yesterday, I was writing up a brief bio for myself to go with a public talk I will be doing late this summer on astrophotography.  They wanted to know how I got into astronomy, and that kind of stuff.

Naturally, I was writing it in the context of me, Kathy, so I wrote, "She got her first telescope at age seven.  A few years later, she saved up her allowance to buy a better one."  Suddenly, I got a whole new awareness of myself as a nerdy little girl.

One of my earliest trans memories, in hindsight, had been of me, also as a seven-year-old, but as a boy wishing I were a girl.  My experience writing the bio was totally different.  Suddenly, I was a little girl, and had always been one.

It felt amazingly right and whole! :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on April 24, 2019, 08:14:59 AM
Nice, the power of contextual language, and how writing really can be therapeutic.

Have a wonderful day Kathy

C -
Title: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 24, 2019, 08:28:55 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 24, 2019, 07:55:23 AM
Yesterday, I was writing up a brief bio for myself to go with a public talk I will be doing late this summer on astrophotography.  They wanted to know how I got into astronomy, and that kind of stuff.

Naturally, I was writing it in the context of me, Kathy, so I wrote, "She got her first telescope at age seven.  A few years later, she saved up her allowance to buy a better one."  Suddenly, I got a whole new awareness of myself as a nerdy little girl.

One of my earliest trans memories, in hindsight, had been of me, also as a seven-year-old, but as a boy wishing I were a girl.  My experience writing the bio was totally different.  Suddenly, I was a little girl, and had always been one.

It felt amazingly right and whole! :)

Isn't it wonderful? I suppose some might see it as delusional revisionist history, but I see nothing at all wrong with it. In fact, I've been noticing the same thing as I think of myself doing all the things I've done in the past. As you've noted in the past when asked, "what's it feel like to be a woman?" I still feel like me, and my brain knows that it was me back then, too. But I'm a woman, and really always have been even if I couldn't let it show, so it's perfectly logical that my psyche casts my current presentation onto my past experiences.

I haven't explicitly written things as you have, and I'm not sure I'm to that point yet, considering the number of people who knew me as I did those things, and might scratch their heads over it, but I do hope to get there some day.

Congratulations, Ms. Kathy, on your girlhood and womanhood.


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Michelle_P on April 24, 2019, 12:34:28 PM
Kathy, I've had this experience in writing as well.  One of the more interesting things that has arisen for me, is that the oddities in my life growing up suddenly are not odd at all, but just part of a nerdy young girls childhood.

All those subtle social roles everyone is supposed to adhere to now look correct instead of odd or shameful, and I feel better about much of my childhood experience.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 24, 2019, 03:05:30 PM
This wonderful Kathy. It's not that it becomes more natural, it's because it's true. We have always been little girls. Even when I was bad, I was a bad girl. We used to wear guy clothes because they made us.

Hugs!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 30, 2019, 11:50:58 AM
Yay, good news!  I went for my annual HRT checkup and prescription refill.  All my levels are good, including my cholesterol, which is still the best the doctor has ever seen. ;)

I complained about the effects of spiro: the constant dehydration, trying to balance drinking enough water to function with having to pee inconveniently often, the low blood pressure (110/55).  I also asked about progesterone, since I have had no breast growth for over a year.

Well, it seems that, in the two years since I started going there, they have become a lot less risk-averse.  It used to be only estradiol and spiro, take it or leave it.  Today, my doctor decided to switch me to androcur (cyproterone) as a blocker for the (hopefully) few months until my GRS.  She isn't going to prescribe progesterone yet, since that would involve two changes simultaneously, but in a couple of months when I go back to get a followup on the cypro, we will talk about it.  Yay!

And she filled in the remaining paperwork for Dr. Brassard's clinic, so I will be able to sent all their forms off as soon as I can get a printout from the pharmacy of my new prescriptions.

I don't mind driving in to the city when it is that productive!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on April 30, 2019, 11:57:47 AM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
I was very happy to read your report regarding your HRT checkup and doctor visit.
It is wonderful that your doctor may be changing your HRT regimen until your GRS...
Yes indeed, well worth the long drive when you can get good news and good results  from your doctor.

It is good that you are getting your paperwork and forms completed and soon mailed off for your upcoming visit to Dr Brassard.    I am rooting for you....   

Thank you for sharing,
HUGS,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on April 30, 2019, 12:26:47 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 30, 2019, 11:50:58 AM
Yay, good news!  I went for my annual HRT checkup and prescription refill.  All my levels are good, including my cholesterol, which is still the best the doctor has ever seen. ;)

I complained about the effects of spiro: the constant dehydration, trying to balance drinking enough water to function with having to pee inconveniently often, the low blood pressure (110/55).  I also asked about progesterone, since I have had no breast growth for over a year.

Well, it seems that, in the two years since I started going there, they have become a lot less risk-averse.  It used to be only estradiol and spiro, take it or leave it.  Today, my doctor decided to switch me to androcur (cyproterone) as a blocker for the (hopefully) few months until my GRS.  She isn't going to prescribe progesterone yet, since that would involve two changes simultaneously, but in a couple of months when I go back to get a followup on the cypro, we will talk about it.  Yay!

And she filled in the remaining paperwork for Dr. Brassard's clinic, so I will be able to sent all their forms off as soon as I can get a printout from the pharmacy of my new prescriptions.

I don't mind driving in to the city when it is that productive!

Excellent news all around! I'm trying getting off the blockers completely (spiro) since I'd cut my dosage in half and my T still went down. And I took my first dose of progesterone last night. Today I'm going to a compounding pharmacy to get a quote on making progesterone cream to apply to my breasts and face, as recommended by Dr. Will Powers.

I hope it's only a few months until your GCS, too! Maybe we can coordinate with my September 25th appointment!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 30, 2019, 01:49:23 PM
Thanks, Danielle and Stephanie!

Quote from: steph2.0 on April 30, 2019, 12:26:47 PM
Maybe we can coordinate with my September 25th appointment!

Even my wildest dreams are not that optimistic!  It is possible that a cancellation could open up a spot that soon, but it is unlikely that I would be first in line to fill the opening.  In my more realistic dreams, I am hoping for some time in late 2019.  But 2020 is more likely.  I'll be happy if it happens before my new prescriptions run out.

Dr. Brassard and his assistant, Dr. Belanger are still the only surgeons that the provincial health plans in Canada will send trans women to.  So they have one heck of a waiting list!

I am envious of your rapid progress.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 30, 2019, 05:36:48 PM
That's good news Kathy. My previous Endo said she wouldn't prescribe progesterone until after my GCS if at all. Kaiser doesn't like to prescribe it. They follow WPATH. It sucks because everyone around me is taking it and their doing better than me.

You and me both are hoping for GCS in January. I've been doing 4 hour bottom HNT sessions for the past few months in hopes to be ready by then. UGH!!! BLT seems to work a LITTLE better than Emla but not much :o
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on April 30, 2019, 06:26:45 PM
Quote from: Donica on April 30, 2019, 05:36:48 PM
That's good news Kathy. My previous Endo said she wouldn't prescribe progesterone until after my GCS if at all. Kaiser doesn't like to prescribe it. They follow WPATH. It sucks because everyone around me is taking it and their doing better than me.

You and me both are hoping for GCS in January. I've been doing 4 hour bottom HNT sessions for the past few months in hopes to be ready by then. UGH!!! BLT seems to work a LITTLE better than Emla but not much :o

Yikes!  Four hours of south pole HNT sounds like torture!  Dr. Brassard recommends against bottom electrolysis unless it can be finished a long time before surgery.  In my case, I won't have an "inside" to worry about having hairs in, if some survive the follicle scrape.  So I am restricting my HNT to the face.

WPATH SOC doesn't say they can't prescribe progesterone, just that the jury is still out on whether the benefits outweigh the risks. 

My doctor isn't an endo, just a WPATH-trained GP, but she does follow WPATH.  She is prepared to prescribe progesterone on an informed consent basis.  Assuming my liver isn't about to blow up on my next checkup, I'll have to sign off on all the risk factors, and then she'll probably prescribe it.

My insurance is fine with whatever the doctor prescribes, but I understand that your doctor has restrictions.  :(
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 30, 2019, 06:40:44 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on April 30, 2019, 06:26:45 PM
Yikes!  Four hours of south pole HNT sounds like torture!  Dr. Brassard recommends against bottom electrolysis unless it can be finished a long time before surgery.  In my case, I won't have an "inside" to worry about having hairs in, if some survive the follicle scrape.  So I am restricting my HNT to the face.

WPATH SOC doesn't say they can't prescribe progesterone, just that the jury is still out on whether the benefits outweigh the risks. 

My doctor isn't an endo, just a WPATH-trained GP, but she does follow WPATH.  She is prepared to prescribe progesterone on an informed consent basis.  Assuming my liver isn't about to blow up on my next checkup, I'll have to sign off on all the risk factors, and then she'll probably prescribe it.

My insurance is fine with whatever the doctor prescribes, but I understand that your doctor has restrictions.  :(
Yes I believe the surgeons require at least 6 months between your last HNT and surgery. My electrocutioner has cleared everything down below. She wants to wait one or two weeks to see what else pops up. In the meantime we're still doing 3 to 4 hour sessions on my face.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 30, 2019, 06:44:06 PM
Quote from: Donica on April 30, 2019, 06:40:44 PM
Yes I believe the surgeons require at least 6 months between your last HNT and surgery. My electrocutioner has cleared everything down below. She wants to wait one or two weeks to see what else pops up. In the meantime we're still doing 3 to 4 hour sessions on my face.

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Oh yeah, I'm arming myself with all the documentation on progesterone I can find. Are you meet with my Endo next month and will request an informed consent for progesterone.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on April 30, 2019, 06:44:50 PM
Quote from: Donica on April 30, 2019, 06:44:06 PM
Oh yeah, I'm arming myself with all the documentation on progesterone I can find. Are you meet with my Endo next month and will request an informed consent for progesterone.

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Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 06, 2019, 06:59:19 AM
Well, I took my last spiro pill Saturday morning.  Last night, I took my first cypro.  Wow, what a difference!   This morning was the first morning in a couple of years that I have not had a hangover.  (I don't drink hardly at all, but the spiro gives me a hangover.)  I feel like I actually have some blood pressure.  Overnight, I only had to get up to pee once.  Among my morning chores are making a fire in the fireplace and cleaning the cats' litter boxes, both of which involve squatting low.  This morning, I can stand up from a squat without feeling lightheaded.

I already like cypro!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on May 06, 2019, 08:03:40 AM
Good for you Kathy. Spiro was hard on the kidneys when I took it. It messed with my electrolytes. I had sodium sensitivity after stopping that medicine for several months. Glad you have a better medication now.

Cynthia -
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 06, 2019, 11:57:08 AM
Aargh!  Our well pump quit!  @#$%!!!!  Maybe I jinxed it by celebrating not having to drink so much water now that I am off spiro.  I'd have been in agony if it had happened last week.  Waiting for the plumber....
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 06, 2019, 12:39:16 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 06, 2019, 11:57:08 AM
Aargh!  Our well pump quit!  @#$%!!!!  Maybe I jinxed it by celebrating not having to drink so much water now that I am off spiro.  I'd have been in agony if it had happened last week.  Waiting for the plumber....

@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Aargh is right...   
I have a submersible pump in my water well and I had to replace the pump last year at a cost of about $1650 ... which included replacing the wiring going down into the well to the pump.   

Hang on tightly to your purse!!!!

Hugs,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: davina61 on May 06, 2019, 01:26:39 PM
Well what a to do, (had to get that in before Steph) , any time you have to get a trade person in its hang on to your purse . Hope it all goes well (intended!!!) water you doing at the moment ,on the bottled stuff?
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on May 06, 2019, 01:34:17 PM
Quote from: davina61 on May 06, 2019, 01:26:39 PM
Well what a to do, (had to get that in before Steph) , any time you have to get a trade person in its hang on to your purse . Hope it all goes well (intended!!!) water you doing at the moment ,on the bottled stuff?

:) :) giggles  :) :)

hope things restored soon Kathy

C -
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 06, 2019, 02:44:09 PM
Thanks, ladies.

Yes, after the plumber did some diagnostics and concluded the problem is down the well, I went into town for some bottled water.  We have a composting toilet in the guest house, so it could be worse.

He is coming back tomorrow to pull the pump.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 06, 2019, 03:19:29 PM
Ugh. There goes a bunch of money down the tubes.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on May 06, 2019, 04:20:03 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 06, 2019, 06:59:19 AM
Well, I took my last spiro pill Saturday morning.  Last night, I took my first cypro.  Wow, what a difference!   This morning was the first morning in a couple of years that I have not had a hangover.  (I don't drink hardly at all, but the spiro gives me a hangover.)  I feel like I actually have some blood pressure.  Overnight, I only had to get up to pee once.  Among my morning chores are making a fire in the fireplace and cleaning the cats' litter boxes, both of which involve squatting low.  This morning, I can stand up from a squat without feeling lightheaded.

I already like cypro!

Oh I so have to ask my Endo about Cypro. I get up twice if not three times a night on Spiro. UGH!!!

Oh Lord! I hope the fix doesn't cost too much. My father had a well on his property. What a headache ::)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 06, 2019, 04:28:55 PM
All's well that ends well.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 06, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
Quote from: Donica on May 06, 2019, 04:20:03 PM
Oh I so have to ask my Endo about Cypro. I get up twice if not three times a night on Spiro. UGH!!!

Oh Lord! I hope the fix doesn't cost too much. My father had a well on his property. What a headache ::)

Good luck with the cypro.  I don't think it is available on your side of the border.  But it doesn't hurt to ask.

The well will cost whatever it costs. You have to be philosophical aboout these things.

Quote from: steph2.0 on May 06, 2019, 04:28:55 PM
All's well that ends well.

Groan!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 07, 2019, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 06, 2019, 09:31:10 PM't hurt to ask.
The well will cost whatever it costs. You have to be philosophical aboout these things.

Well...  It will cost big.  It looks like there's been a collapse down the bore hole.  Best case, they can drill the collapsed material and the old pump out of the hole and re-line it.  More likely, we need a whole new well.  <not allowed>!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on May 07, 2019, 12:17:50 PM
well.... it's moving toward a conclusion, may it happen soon Kathy, arrrggg

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 07, 2019, 12:20:56 PM
Wow, it really did end well, and that's not good.


Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 07, 2019, 04:49:33 PM
What a difference a couple of hours make!  Things are significantly better than what I thought was the "best case".

The pump had simply burned out from old age, but the reason they couldn't lift it out was not because of a cave-in.  A camera revealed that, years ago, someone had dropped the rope that was supposed to support the weight of the pump, and 250' of rope was balled up on top of it, jamming it in the hole.  While I went off to get my face fried (HNT), the crew spent the afternoon MacGyvering a rig to fish the rope out and free the pump.

So everything is now out of the hole.  Tomorrow, they will install brand new everything: pump, pipe, cable, ROPE!!!  It will cost a bit, but a tiny fraction of what a new well would have cost.

This might not be squee-worthy, but it certainly deserves a WOO-HOO!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on May 07, 2019, 04:54:23 PM
!!!Woo Hoo!!!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on May 07, 2019, 05:30:53 PM
Well that's good new Kathy. Dodged a Well aimed bullet there.... sorta. Hummmmm... Face Fry.... Interesting!!! I like it. Well I don't really LIKE like it, but, Well, it works :D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica_Rose on May 08, 2019, 05:48:59 PM
Great news on the well Kathy! My parents have a well, and their water smells like sulphur. I feel as though taking a shower at their house makes me less clean. After 40 years using the well they are actually thinking about switching to 'city' water. I hope that happens soon!

I also think a WOO-HOO is appropriate!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 08, 2019, 05:57:57 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Your WOO-HOO good news report exemplifies why we should not always assume the worst possible outcome.

The other good news for you is that your plumber was honest and did not just put in a new pump and charge you significantly more for their service call.

Yes indeed, a 2nd WOO-HOO is very appropriate.   
Hugs,
Danielle

 
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 07, 2019, 04:49:33 PM
What a difference a couple of hours make!  Things are significantly better than what I thought was the "best case".

The pump had simply burned out from old age, but the reason they couldn't lift it out was not because of a cave-in.  A camera revealed that, years ago, someone had dropped the rope that was supposed to support the weight of the pump, and 250' of rope was balled up on top of it, jamming it in the hole.  While I went off to get my face fried (HNT), the crew spent the afternoon MacGyvering a rig to fish the rope out and free the pump.

So everything is now out of the hole.  Tomorrow, they will install brand new everything: pump, pipe, cable, ROPE!!!  It will cost a bit, but a tiny fraction of what a new well would have cost.

This might not be squee-worthy, but it certainly deserves a WOO-HOO!!

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Liina on May 11, 2019, 09:30:37 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 07, 2019, 04:49:33 PM
What a difference a couple of hours make!  Things are significantly better than what I thought was the "best case".

The pump had simply burned out from old age, but the reason they couldn't lift it out was not because of a cave-in.  A camera revealed that, years ago, someone had dropped the rope that was supposed to support the weight of the pump, and 250' of rope was balled up on top of it, jamming it in the hole.  While I went off to get my face fried (HNT), the crew spent the afternoon MacGyvering a rig to fish the rope out and free the pump.

So everything is now out of the hole.  Tomorrow, they will install brand new everything: pump, pipe, cable, ROPE!!!  It will cost a bit, but a tiny fraction of what a new well would have cost.

Hi Kathy, geez what a bummer, I had the same thing a year and half ago, pump burnt out with lining stuck, of course it snowed and the job was aborted due to 8 inches of wet heavy snow and bad roads for 2 weeks, it went on for 3 weeks.. In the end it all worked out but sometimes it is just a big pain in the %#$. Hope it all goes according the reinstall plans. In the end my redo cost 9K cdn. And I should be good for another 22 years, ha!  Yes a new well is a much bigger bill and time consumption, glad that is not your case!  Be safe and look forward to the spring that has sprung!
Liina
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 11, 2019, 11:25:29 AM
Thanks for the "well"-wishes, everyone! 

The crew was back the next day with brand new everything.  They upgraded the pump, the pipe and replaced the electrical cable.  They elected not to use a rope, to avoid having the same problem recur.  Apparently, the only rope that is suitable for wells is impossible to tie knots in!  That could explain a lot.

They had to shock the well, standard procedure when you drop anything into it.  I ran most of the chlorine out of it with a garden hose to minimize damage to the septic tank.  It still took a couple of days to get rid of the chlorine taste.

@Liina, I am indeed looking forward to spring.  I hope it gets here soon!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 11, 2019, 08:35:25 PM
In honour of Mother's Day, here is a pic of my mother and me.  She never got to meet Kathy, but I can imagine it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46912775025_9f940918ab.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on May 11, 2019, 08:37:14 PM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 11, 2019, 08:35:25 PM
In honour of Mother's Day, here is a pic of my mother and me.  She never got to meet Kathy, but I can imagine it.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46912775025_9f940918ab.jpg)

cute !  :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 11, 2019, 09:32:04 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
That was so nice to see baby with mom in that long ago photo.
Yes, indeed, use your imagination and your kind and warm thoughts to
think what it would have been like if your mom met Kathy.

Thank you for sharing.
Hugs and best wishes,
Danielle
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 13, 2019, 07:53:04 AM
Last summer, the provincial legislature passed some new laws allowing more flexibility in gender designations.  The one I was most interested in was the ability to change my official gender marker without having to amend my (foreign) birth certificate.

Initially, the changes were supposed to be rolled out January 1st.  Then it was the end of April.  Since that came and went with no change in procedures evident, I rattled their cage the other day.  Now they have pushed it back until the end of June.  Aaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!  Having worked in the civil service most of my career, I know that it isn't being worked on: it is sitting gathering dust at the bottom of someone's IN basket. 

I sent a reply email asking them to confirm they meant June 2019, with a copy to my MLA.  Bwah-ha-ha.

I'd much rather use the new process when it becomes available, since the documentation requirements will be minimal.  On the other hand, if it slips past the end of June, I will (finally!) be eligible to change my birth certificate without any local cooperation.  The documentation required to do that is a PITA, but I'll do it.  I am not waiting any longer.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on May 13, 2019, 08:02:59 AM
Good morning Kathy, the birth cert is a great thing to have updated and quite worth the effort, good luck navigating the bureaucracy. I did mine with the state of CA, they made it easy there....

Have a wonderful day !

C - 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on May 13, 2019, 08:04:09 AM
I hate the bureaucratic red tape (bottom of the in basket pile). I guess I bugged them so much they gave in to shut me up ;D
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 21, 2019, 01:56:41 PM
The week in review:

I heard from Dr. Brassard's clinic.  They received my paperwork.  Unfortunately, I had missed signing one page. @#$%!!  I double-checked everything before I sent it.  Next time, triple check!  I faxed them the relevant page from my file copy, signed.

The play at the community has finally finished its six-week run.  It will be nice to have our Friday and Saturday evenings back.

On Sunday, my wife and I had a nice get-together with some newish friends, a lesbian couple.  We met them through our mutual friend R, but R tends to dominate all conversations, so it was nice to have dinner with just them.

I have joined a new concert band.  The old one has finished for the season, and I inquired about another one that I thought I might like better for next year.  They said their season still has a few weeks to run, and I could try them out with no obligation.  I have been to three practises so far, and I like it.  The members are mostly female, which makes me feel more comfortable.

I had my weekly HNT today.  My electrocutioner is happy with how smooth my skin is getting.  We booked next month's sessions, but she thinks we will be cutting back to shorter sessions or fewer sessions soon.  Today's session was nostrils, eyebrows, and one side of my neck.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on May 21, 2019, 02:07:55 PM
Hi Kathy,

Forms and more forms, it's quite the ordeal to chase it down, good luck with getting that all aligned  :)

Concert band sounds like a lot of fun !

As for the electric shock treatment, you have my most profound sympathies, it's a test, and long process for sure

Nice to catch up on your thread, I'm just at work with lunch at my desk this moment

Do have a wonderful rest of the week...

C -

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 21, 2019, 02:10:05 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:
Great update, thank you for sharing.

Arghhhh... that is so frustration making certain that all the pertinent pages are signed and dated.... it is very easy to miss a page, then the "fun" and delays of getting the paperwork back to the sender. 
Yes indeed, triple check next time!

I am glad that you had a good time with the community play... always enjoyable but it sure is nice to have some free time again, particularly on Friday and Saturday evenings.   
I fondly recall the pictures that you posted last year of you in your costume.... 

Sounds like you had a nice dinner time with new friends.. it is sometimes nice to not have extra people along that can sidetrack conversations.  While it is nice to have group dinners and social times it is also nice to limit it to just one or two people, that way it is easier to learn more about your new friends.

If you get involved in your new concert band, I will of course be looking for a photo... (or it didn't happen!!!) ;)

It sounds like you are making good progress with your hair removal, and your "electrocutioner" is thinking of cutting back to shorter and/or fewer sessions.....   that is GOOD NEWS for sure.

Thank you again Kathy for your update.
I am always looking for your thread and postings around the forums when I login.

HUGS and best wishes,
Danielle


Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 21, 2019, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on May 21, 2019, 02:10:05 PM
I fondly recall the pictures that you posted last year of you in your costume.... 
Me?  Costume?  Danielle, I think the lack of sleep from those short nights up north must be getting to you.  I have only been on stage once, in a rehearsal, to read the lines of an actor who couldn't make it.  And I have never worn a costume.

But, if you fondly recall a photo of me, I'll take it. :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on May 21, 2019, 02:51:12 PM
@Alaskan Danielle @KathyLauren


Quote from: Alaskan Danielle on May 21, 2019, 02:10:05 PM
@KathyLauren
Dear Kathy:

I fondly recall the pictures that you posted last year of you in your costume.... 

Thank you again Kathy for your update.
I am always looking for your thread and postings around the forums when I login.

HUGS and best wishes,
Danielle



Quote from: KathyLauren on May 21, 2019, 02:43:18 PM
Me?  Costume?  Danielle, I think the lack of sleep from those short nights up north must be getting to you.  I have only been on stage once, in a rehearsal, to read the lines of an actor who couldn't make it.  And I have never worn a costume.

But, if you fondly recall a photo of me, I'll take it. :)

Maybe Danielle meant this one?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/46207812782_c1817b965d_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 21, 2019, 03:00:16 PM
Quote from: Jessica on May 21, 2019, 02:51:12 PM
@Alaskan Danielle @KathyLauren


Maybe Danielle meant this one?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4901/46207812782_c1817b965d_b.jpg)

Oh, right!  That's me in the back row, right.  I'm crew, not cast, so I have to wear all black.  I sit in the booth at the back of the theatre and try to look invisible. :)
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 28, 2019, 09:51:53 AM
I think this calls for a SQUEEEEE!!

QuoteI am happy to inform you that your administrative file is complete and is now in line to get evaluated by the preoperative clinic.
So Dr. Brassard's clinic has all my paperwork, and I am officially in the queue! 
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: CynthiaAnn on May 28, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
Such good news Kathy !! Very happy for you  :)

It's VJ time !

Hugs and SQUEEE  :)

Cynthia -

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: steph2.0 on May 28, 2019, 10:05:36 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 28, 2019, 09:51:53 AM
I think this calls for a SQUEEEEE!!
So Dr. Brassard's clinic has all my paperwork, and I am officially in the queue!

OMG! Squeeeeee!

Any proposed dates yet?


- Stephanie
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 28, 2019, 10:09:23 AM
Quote from: steph2.0 on May 28, 2019, 10:05:36 AM
OMG! Squeeeeee!

Any proposed dates yet?


- Stephanie
I expect it to take a couple of months for them to evaluate my paperwork (It's a long queue) before they give me a tentative date.  I don't expect that date to be within this calendar year.  However, once I have a tentative date, I could be bumped up sooner if they have a cancellation.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Jessica on May 28, 2019, 10:29:41 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 28, 2019, 10:09:23 AM
I expect it to take a couple of months for them to evaluate my paperwork (It's a long queue) before they give me a tentative date.  I don't expect that date to be within this calendar year.  However, once I have a tentative date, I could be bumped up sooner if they have a cancellation.


Yes a Squeeeeee is called for.

Congratulations Kathy!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Rayna on May 28, 2019, 11:36:11 AM
Congratulations Kathy! That has got to be such a relief. Now it's "just" the waiting game, but being in the queue has got to be a comfort.

Sent from my Victor 9000 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 28, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
@CynthiaAnn
@steph2.0
@Jessica
@RandyL

Thanks for the "squeee"s, all!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: davina61 on May 28, 2019, 03:25:10 PM
Good news dear, lets hope your wait is quicker than mine----------
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Donica on May 28, 2019, 03:50:44 PM
YAY!!! SQUEEEE!!! for sure Kathy. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 28, 2019, 05:02:08 PM
Thanks, @davina61 and @Donica!
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Lexxi on May 29, 2019, 02:14:08 AM
Kathy,

Here's my squeeee too. I'm so happy for you!!

Lexxi
xoxo
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Faith on May 29, 2019, 06:01:27 AM
KATHY!!  I meant to reply yesterday, I'm so messed up.

I'm so happy for you. I'll reserve the squeee. You're probably having trouble finding a place for the ones that you have now. I'll give it to you at a later date.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: TonyaW on May 29, 2019, 06:38:57 AM
Quote from: KathyLauren on May 28, 2019, 09:51:53 AM
I think this calls for a SQUEEEEE!!
So Dr. Brassard's clinic has all my paperwork, and I am officially in the queue!
Not being one of the squeee crowd, (I'm too cheap to pay the usage fees)

I'll just say congratulations and happy for you.

Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 29, 2019, 07:25:28 AM
All SQUEEEEs (and alternatives) gratefully received, regardless of timing.

Thanks, ladies!

@TonyaW, @Faith, @Lexxi
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: KathyLauren on May 31, 2019, 01:00:53 PM
I went to the beauty school for a haircut.  My real hair was long enough that stuffing it under a wig was getting to be a chore.  The beauty school is cheap, and the students work under fairly close supervision, so they do a good job.

Since a haircut involves taking my wig off in public (*eek*! *shudder*!), I put on makeup and dressed nicely to minimize the chance of misgendering and to (mostly) control my own dysphoria.  I thought I actually looked pretty good in the mirror, even without my wig.

I had no reason to suspect that anyone there misgendered me.  At least, if they thought it, they kept it to themselves.  After I gave them a "teaching moment" last year, they might even have included some trans awareness in their curriculum.
Title: Re: Kathy's journey
Post by: Northern Star Girl on May 31, 2019, 01:06:59 PM
@KathyLauren
Kathy:
It is wonderful for me to read that you navigated your hair gauntlet successfully.
A happy moment for sure for you!!!
Hugs,
Danielle